What has RVD and Flair have done this is rememberable, or postivie in TNA? Flair has Fortune, which consisted of home-grown TNA talent, they turned of Flair and Flait has'nt been seen since. RVD won the TNA Championship, lose it beucase he was kayfabe "murderered," then came back, got no rematch, and is just there now, floating around the midcard. What about hiring Bubba the Love Sponge? Which is the sole reason Awesome Kong is now employed by WWE becuase of his douchebag remark's. How about The Hardy's, one is "taking a week off" as he say's becuase he never showed up to taping's. The other is a well-known junkie, has a court case, and embarrassed TNA, and it's fans, by coming out high in a main event match. How about hiring The Nast Boys, the only reason Brian Knobbs was in a wrestling promotion in 2010 was becuase he's Hogan friend.
TNA was in a better place when they had their own talent on television, not guy's from other corporation's. Anderson, Bully Ray, Hogan, Angle, Sting, Stiener, Bischoff, Morgan, RVD, Flair, were all build from somewhere else and are essentially the core superstar's on Impact every week. Hell, the last 5 TNA Champion's since AJ Styles has it last year (RVD, Hardy, Sting, Anderson) were build from someehere else.
Ric Flair put over guys like Matt Morgan, Jay Lethal, AJ Styles (by association and promo work), and most recently Robert Roode. What happened to them afterwards is irrelevant in this argument. He put them over, he helped them out, and that's a positive thing he did.
Not only that, Flair cut some of the best promos of his recent years in TNA where he was allowed to be The Nature Boy, not some good white haired old man. That's also a positive.
Flair didn't destroy any of the young guys, he didn't impact (hehehehe) the product in any negative manner, period. If you can't enjoy a Ric Flair promo or even a match, how do you stand pro wrestling in general? What? You get disgusted by a half naked 60 years old man, bleeding up and down the iMAPCT Wrestling Zone? Tell you what, if you can watch half naked men wiggle around for two hours, you shouldn't have a problem with this in the first place.
On to RVD. What has RVD done? Not much. He had a couple of sweet matches, awesome debut, and that's about it. Did he help the product? I don't think so. Whether RVD was in TNA or not would've made ZERO difference. But did he hurt it? Nope. Like you said, he's just there.
However, no one can deny the fact that he's super over with the fans. Always has been. His shirts sell, obviously, because I constantly see fans in the crowd or in general wearing them. He's a loveable character and the fans buy into whatever it is that he brings to the table. A lot like Jeff Hardy. So in that sense he helps TNA a lot more than some of the originals like Samoa Joe, but I don't see anybody wanting him gone, yet the IWC begs for him to get pushed. How does that happen?
Now, stop bringing up shit that happened a year ago. As you can see TNA is in a MUCH better place right now, with a different mind set and a different product. The beginning of 2010 was a disaster. No one denies that. No one ever did or will. Hogan and Bischoff came along and they straight up didn't know what they were doing. They played with fire, they got burned and they learned a lot of good lessons which honestly they should've known beforehand. Either way, they shat their pants and they corrected themselves.
Let's live in 2011 now, shall we? Right now TNA is doing EVERYTHING the marks want them to. Pushing and showcasing their young/home grown talent more. That's Bobby Roode, Crimson, Gunner and to an extent James Storm, but only hints of that. Now I expect you to bitch about Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe, AJ, Pope and so on. Get this: they can't push everybody at the same time. You wanted young/home grown talent being established and pushed, you got it, now shut up.
The smarks wanted MOAR RASSLIN'! You got that too, especially since the rebanding took place. You got longer (not every time), more meaningful matches with better quality. You got the X-Division stuff, bringing in old and new talent and having them wrestle their asses off. You got the BFG series which are a great idea and showcase matches we probably wouldn't see for a long long time, AND wins and losses matter.
You wanted more consistent booking, and while there are holes here and there (it's TNA afterall), the booking has been better, more focused and long term. The promos allude to what could happen, and the storylines are unpredictable to a large extent.
So ... they build up younger talent, they amp up the wrestling, they rebuild the X-Division, they stop giving Hogan and Bischoff as much TV time as they used to (we didn't see Bischoff at all this week and Hogan appeared in one 30 second segment), they fix a plethora of other things, and little fucktards like you are sitting here bitching about something that happened
A YEAR AGO? Talk about being a desperate little WWE schmuck smark.
"TNA was better off when they had their own talent, not guys from other corporations"?
Hold on, since when does it matter where you came from? Does it matter where you worked before, or how you work NOW? How you contribute to the product NOW? How you wrestle NOW? How you cut promos NOW?
If Matt Morgan was built in another company and we're bitching about that (even though he wasn't in WWE for long and developed himself in TNA), then how come you're not bitching that more than a half of WWE's greatest "superstars" came from WCW or ECW? What about Triple H, Stone Cold, Chris Jericho? What about Kevin Nash, Booker T? How about all those guys in WWE right now that were built up or came from somewhere else? Punk (ROH), Del Rio (Mexico), Danielson (Japan and ROH), Kharma (TNA), R-Truth (TNA. He was there for 5 years and in 2 as K-Kwik for WWF), Mysterio (WCW), Sin Cara (Mexico). Don't forget all those old guys who came from AWA as well. Michaels, Lawler, the list goes on. I'm counting ROH and Mexico because the guys that came from there were developed there only to come to WWE and be turned to whatever the 'E wants them to be.
If coming from another company, whether it's big like AWA or even AAA, or small like Ring of Honor and TNA, is SUCH a bad thing, then WWF should've fired more than a half of their greatest wrestlers because they came from another company and got built up there. They should've scrapped the idea of molding them into their own. Fuck how they work, fuck how they wrestle, fuck how they draw, fuck their promos, fuck their look and their potential. They will never be good because they came from another company. Great logic, dumbass.
If you knew ANYTHING about TNA you'd know that it was basically founded on using guys from other companies. It's not like it was built purely on the shoulders of home grown TNA talent. Look at some of TNA's first Champions. Ken Shamrock, Raven, Jeff Jarrett, Christian Cage, Rhino. Look at the people from other companies in TNA's last 9 years. D-Lo, X-Pac, Psychosis, Jerry Lynn, Ron Killings, Rhino, Jeff Jarrett, Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Sting, Steiner, Stevie Richards, Shane Douglas, Mick Foley, Booker T, Dustin Rhodes, Jeff Hardy. Random appearances from Randy Savage, Roddy Piper, Steamboat. The list goes on and on and on and on. Fact is, TNA ALWAYS had people from "other corporations" to help them out and be a part of the roster, not just now.
? Tarver & Sheffield... where are they now? Daniel Bryan - Sheamus' opponent in the WM dark match? Even the Miz looks suspiciously like the next Jack Swagger.