How to keep this Heyman vs Zeb feud going for a while. Idea for Cesaro's next feud

[jeffrey9800]

Zeb vs Heyman is good for business, it's golden, on the mic they can represent many wrestlers that are weak and develop a rivalry that we could talk about for years to come :

When Cesaro beats Swagger in a few weeks probably at Extreme Rules or Payback, have Zeb go to the back and being pissed off at the loss.

Have him come back, while Cesaro and Heyman are celebrating the win, with Ryback.

Yes I said it Ryback,

Ryback beats Cesaro down and looks at Heyman while standing over Cesaro.

Zeb says I can't believe you let this guy go, Ryback says I'll make you pay for letting me go, etc etc...

Setting up a Ryback vs Cesaro feud that could culminate at Summerslam.

At Survivor Series, I would have a Zeb team vs Heyman team fight ... that would be awesome!!! Have them represent 4-5 wrestlers each, and have them present their new "acquisitions" always in an awesome way, either by surprise entrant in the Survivor series match or by having them save the day during a brawl etc..

Have this continue until a final showdown at WM, I don't know who the particpants would be in that match, but I know I wanna see this feud continue and I want some more mic work between the 2.

Nevermind my ideas to continue the feud, that's not the point.
But am I the only one who thinks this Zeb vs Heyman feud shouldn't be limited to Swagger vs Cesaro? Have Zeb sign Rybaxel and Heyman reacts by forming a tag team of his own (RVD and Ziggler maybe?)

Zeb vs Heyman has a lot of potential.
I wanna see it last!!!

 

[Softcore Holly]

Hm...I love the continuation of Zeb vs Heyman idea, Ryback not so such. Summerslam is a pretty long time away, Ryback I can't see lasting past Payback. Also not liking the idea of Zeb picking up Heyman's rejects just to feed them to Cesaro, Zeb's no stranger to losing but that just feels like a recipe for instant failure. You also have the problem of it being a heel vs heel situation, I thought Cesaro would be face once the RA broke up but instead they put him with Heyman who's just a magnet for heat.

Although if you somehow get past all the obstacles and make it to Survivor Series, least that part is easy.

Zeb's team
Swagger, Sandow, Titus O'Neil, Miz, Brotus

Heyman's team
Cesaro, Barrett, Kidd, Rusev, Mcintyre (Replace Drew with Del Rio or Sheamus if either of those guys are doing nothing at the time)

Basically the idea would be Heyman wants to PO Zeb by beating him with a all international team. I admit the teams was rushed and not that exciting since I was trying to stick to heels, but hopefully you guys get what I was going for.

 

[TJ-BITW]

Cesaro is very talented upcoming wrestler and expect him to get pushed further now that since he has joined Paul Heyman. IMO, Cesaro will feud with Swagger for couple of PPVs. I just sense WWE is planning for Cesaro vs Lesnar in a long run at some point of time, not sure when.

Its so many times we have seen in the past - current Paul Heyman guy feuds with ex Paul Heyman guy.

 

[Hem]

I don't think thats a bad idea but I think streching the feud out until WM next year will only hurt the feud. WWE is not to consistant when it comes to mid card feuds and for them to successfully carry Zeb/Heyman a whole seems unlikely.

But lets say they make it that long. Then At Summerslam we get a Cesaro Vs. Mark Henry match where Cesaro beats Henry and then for the next few months leaves the feud to pursue other interests like the IC Title. He would still be represented by Heyman and would still partake in the tag matches which I see happing weekly.

Then at Survivor Series both men have built up an army of their own which consists of Paul Heyman Guys - Cesaro, RVD, Kofi Kingston and Sheamus Vs. Zeb Colter Guys - Swagger, Henry, The Miz and Damien Sandow. I think that match up is evenly matched and would be a great showing.

At The Royal Rumble Cesaro takes on whoever the biggest Zeb Colter Guy is at that time and the Zeb Colter guy wins. They feud during the elimination chamber when say a guy like Brock Lesnar costs a big name Zeb Colter guy the match and says it ends at WM.

Brock Vs the big Colter guy and Cesaro Vs. Swagger to put an end to that story.

 

[Mustang Sally]

These ideas are interesting and one can see many possibilities. Once in a while, we're treated to heel vs. heel battles involving wrestlers, yet I can't remember any storylines that featured two heel managers plotting against each other on a continuing basis.

If they did that, problems would presumably be handled in a cerebral manner, rather than having managers physically beating the hell out of each other.....Zeb in particular, as he seems to be on a "do not hit" list. The only time anyone belted him, it was done by the Matadors mascot, of all people.

As for Paul Heyman, since his return after his long vacation, I think he's had WWE management instruct the wrestlers not to hit him. Think about it; during his first go-around as Brock Lesnar's representative, he was being belted around by everyone from Triple H to Stephanie McMahon, remember? In one instance, Heyman came out bleeding from the head and I remember thinking that this was taking his involvement too far. Since his return, he hasn't gotten belted at all.

So, Zeb and Paul would have to run their stables by letting their men do the hitting for them. I like the concept because Zeb & Heyman will have to battle on two fronts: mind vs. mind against each other.....while warring against the good guys from the team they're opposing.

If this proves successful, they might run with for a long time, just so long as they don't start annexing members like NWO and ruining the whole thing.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Ryback would fit nicely with Zeb. Axl maybe as well. I just feel like Cesaro is at a much higher place than any three if those guys. The interesting thing here is the heel v heel aspect. We saw it with Orton and Batista and it was really falling flat. I think the difference with Cesaro and Swagger is that Cesaro is a far more popular heel than Swagger and will get the pops. But I don't see this feud between Swaager and Cesaro or Heyman and Zeb lasting too long.

Maybe Cesaro starts to feud with Hogan or Hogan and Big Show. Maybe Cesaro's popularity gets the better of things and he is the one to feud with Lesnar at SummerSlam. Maybe Heyman is caught in the middle or turns on Cesaro. Maybe The Authority lose track of DB while being antagonized by The Shield and Cesaro actually works a title program with DB during the B Special Events. Maybe they use Cesaro and the legend of Cesaro/Zayn to kill a lot of TV time putting on lengthy matches. Maybe him and Heyman are the ones who breath new life in the IC Title.

It is all too hard to say but I definitely don't see Cesaro languishing with Zeb, Swagger, or others so low of the totem pole for too long.

 

[The Eighties]

I love oldschool mangers and personal I'd enjoy the hell out of a Zeb vs Heyman stable rivalry as It hink the promos and minds of both guys would help build it into something really entertaining.

However I agree with Mr. Steele's Barber, I think Cesaro dusts Swagger at Extreme Rules and moves on to bigger things, and it's not just because of Cesaro, Heyman is the manager of the ultimate PPV attraction and the killer of the streak, they wont want him dabbling too long in a mid card feud as that was what happened when they put Axel with him.

 

[jeffrey9800]

I don't think thats a bad idea but I think streching the feud out until WM next year will only hurt the feud. WWE is not to consistant when it comes to mid card feuds and for them to successfully carry Zeb/Heyman a whole seems unlikely.

Exactly my point,

The Mid card is so irrelevant right now with no real feuds. A little bit of passion in the mid card without having to put a title in the middle would be amazing.

These ideas are interesting and one can see many possibilities. Once in a while, we're treated to heel vs. heel battles involving wrestlers, yet I can't remember any storylines that featured two heel managers plotting against each other on a continuing basis.

I don't believe in the Heel and Face concept anymore, I think it's 2 dated.
Hell, Heyman received the Biggest heat AND the biggest pop ON THE SAME NIGHT BY THE SAME CROWD. And NO one questionned it. How crazy is that? There was no heel/face turn, he acted the exact same way.

Ryback would fit nicely with Zeb. Axl maybe as well. I just feel like Cesaro is at a much higher place than any three if those guys. The interesting thing here is the heel v heel aspect. We saw it with Orton and Batista and it was really falling flat. I think the difference with Cesaro and Swagger is that Cesaro is a far more popular heel than Swagger and will get the pops. But I don't see this feud between Swaager and Cesaro or Heyman and Zeb lasting too long.

Guys I feel you with this, but let's stop bringing the guys we like into main event picture right away. There's nothing wrong with Cesaro being a major player in this feud for a few months, hell it would probably be the first or second best feud in 2014. There's nothing wrong with fighting Swagger, Ryback and whoever they bring into that feud. Hell after a while maybe main event players could start putting their nose in that feud, it could be big.

Lastly, I understand that Ryback is not at the right place right now, but Zeb could be the reason he's now a legit threat, they would have a few months to do so while Cesaro feuds with Swagger.

Lastly for real, I wouldn't want any physicality between Heyman and Zeb, no matches nothing, just pure mind games.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

I think it would be great if Jack Swagger turns face and Cesaro turns heel. Ideally, Cesaro should be a great babyface, but you have to keep him a heel after being paired with Paul Heyman. He was getting booed on Smackdown. He isn't going to overcome being paired with the guy who ended the streak.

A double turn would be great at Extreme Rules. Just have Heyman help Cesaro cheat, and then Jack do a big babyface comeback. You can have Zeb work as Jack's weird racist uncle, but Jack can just laugh off what he says while still chanting WE THE PEOPLE with the audience. I think it could be great.

 

[MMA Mark]

I like the idea of Ryback and Axel joining up with Zeb and Swagger. Much better than what they're doing now.

Barrett and Rusev would be solid guy to align with Cesaro for a brief period as well.