How in the world.....

[William_Regal]

Can Vince and WWE Creative mess things up so much. Youve got the tag, womens and Cruiserweigth divisions basically in the s*itter and its not like there isnt the talent in the WWE to make them 3 divisions good.

The Cruiserweight divisions.

Chavo
Gregory Helms
Jamie Noble
Jimmy Wang Yang
Shannon Moore
Joey Mercury
Paul London
Brian Kendrick
Rey Misterio
Mistico

Now its surely not hard to get a good watchable cruiserweigth division using the talent available is it? Youve got 10 excellant wrestlers there and yet the WWE cant seem to do anythign with them

The Womens division (Im not including shite like Candice Michelle and Ashley)

Milena
Mickie James
Victoria
Beth Phoenix
Katie Lea
Trinity

Once again you cant say the talents not there....it is but its just not been used correctly. Victoria is an excellant wrestler, better than alot of the males imo. Same as Katie Lea and Beth Phoenix...both are excellant wrestlers rotting away in OVW.

Tag Division

The Hardys
MNM
Londrick
Regal & Taylor
Deuce & Domino
Cade & Murdoch
FBI (Vito and Little Guido)
Brothers of Destruction
The Highlanders
Cryme Tyme
Worlds Greatest Tag Team
La Resistance (Conway, Dupree and Sylvain are all rotting in OVW/DSW and should be on the main roster)
Harry Smith and Steve Lewington/ TJ Wilson (Smith has teamed up with both of these 2 and imo all 3 would make an excellant adition to the roster)

Even the Intercontinental titles goign down the shitter......I mean wtf does Umage need the title. Nobodys gonna take it off him except a main eventer like Cena who wont need the title to get over.
The Intercontinental title shoudl be for guys who arnt main event status like Shelton, Carlito and Jeff Hardy....not for supposedly unstoppable monsters who are only gonan drop the title to a main event superstar. (Unless of course he drops it to a newcmer like say Paul Burchill or Vladimir Koslov then yeah I suppose that would be good booking to get a new guy over)

Thats 13 great tag teams......and yet the WWE Creative cant get together a good tag division.......I really think the WWE needs a good overhaul.....get anew creative team made up off guys who actually have a background in wrestling instead of a bunch of dweeby university graduates who havent watched a match in their life and have only got the job because its well paid.

 

[sean]

I'll make this simple on you. London & Kendrick=deserving champions. Umaga=deserving. Melina=deserving. Benoit=deserving. The rest of the champions and tag champs are garbage and shud be fired, not pushed down our throats...

 

[Crytera]

The tag division is dead. Vince should scrap the tag division and the tag titles. Perhaps after he goes bald, Vince should go on a wild rampage and strip the tag champions of their titles and announce the tag division is history. He should also fire the dead weight like Eugene, Hacksaw, Highlanders, and Cryme Tyme, ect.

 

[ExtremeRage81]

I'll make this simple on you. London & Kendrick=deserving champions. Umaga=deserving. Melina=deserving. Benoit=deserving. The rest of the champions and tag champs are garbage and shud be fired, not pushed down our throats...

Okay. Kendrick and London are good. I got no problem with them. They need however what all deserving and good champions need; COMPETITION!!!!!!

Vince won't give them any. Now as far as Umaga goes, what the hell has he done to be a deserving champion? Beats Jeff Hardy (Who could handle him anyday. I mean come on he fought Abyss for god's sake), Ric Flair and Kane, big whoop. Who cares? He isn't that great. Benoit is a deserving champ but he deserves a lot more than that belt. He was a world champ for crying out loud. And if he loses to MVP, that just makes things worse. That stupid power ranger lookalike punk couldn't beat Chris Benoit, EVER!!!! Melina, okay that part, don't really care because at this point, none of the belts mean a damn thing anymore.

Makes me glad I'm not going to order wrestlemania. I'll be 50 bucks richer and I won't feel ripped off. This thing no matter how you look at it is going to be a disaster.

 

[Prax]

I've said it before sooooo many times and I think like twice yesterday (lol), the answer to the tag division situation is as clear as day.

UNIFY the tag team championships from both shows and make the Tag Team division interpromotional! It's so simple and easy to do/explain.

It's not like ending the brand extension or anything, you're just allowing teams to jump boat to boat, which opens A LOT more opportunities in terms of feuds or even actual teams! It allows them to actually USE more wrestlers.

I think it would be interesting to make it kind of like the NWA championships were decided back in the day. Make title shots actually MEAN something.

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

I've said it before sooooo many times and I think like twice yesterday (lol), the answer to the tag division situation is as clear as day.

UNIFY the tag team championships from both shows and make the Tag Team division interpromotional! It's so simple and easy to do/explain.

It's not like ending the brand extension or anything, you're just allowing teams to jump boat to boat, which opens A LOT more opportunities in terms of feuds or even actual teams! It allows them to actually USE more wrestlers.

I think it would be interesting to make it kind of like the NWA championships were decided back in the day. Make title shots actually MEAN something.

finally somebody agrees with me.. the tag titles from raw an smackdown need to be unified.. unlimited ideas with this...have king of the ring in a tag team style, or tag team rumble for number 1 contender spots, when a team isnt working out anymore have them split apart and fued or go on different brands.

as for rey being a CW... if u were the heavyweight champ...would u be happy going back down the card to CW matches??

umaga isnt a deserving champion yet... but i do see him as a champion in the futre... the ic title doesn't really do anything for him.. i was suprised that he won it.

dont get me started on the womens division

 

[Prax]

I think Umaga getting the IC Title was a consolation price for the fact that he's going to get dominated by Lashley at wrestlemania.

But that's another story... it was just one of those years where certain titles were needed at 'Mania just for the sake of advancing storylines instead of just being defended.

I accept it, it happens every once in a while.

 

[Shadowmancer]

IF you guys want to see what could be done to improve the quality of the Cruiserweights they need to go and change the rope and make it a smaller ring. This would allow them to be more open in their movesets and no longer have to go for the corner for every highflying move. (Thanks Kasey for this Information). As to what they can do to improve the Tag belts stop them having two titles at once, it sucks and everyone agrees on the fact that Batista should never have held the Tag titles with Rey while he had the WHC, its the same with Cena and having both the Tag and the WWE title.

 

[JohnnyRodz]

The Womens division (Im not including shite like Candice Michelle and Ashley)

Milena
Mickie James
Victoria
Beth Phoenix
Katie Lea
Trinity

You shouldn't have included these names either. The womens division is a joke,plain and simple. The only one of the women who knows what the hell she's doing is Victoria,and she seems to get pinned every week.

 

[Kasey]

I've been seeing this coming for a long time. The shows all have fundamental flaws in terms of talent placement, booking order, storyline layout, and match quality that derail any potential shot at drawing pops or heat that are consistent and are even anywhere near what they once were. The tag division needs to either be interpromotional like Prax suggested or confine the tag teams to one show. The only other way to fix what is their is to bring in more talent that isn't $hit. Deuce and Domino were the best things they could come up with? Give me a f**king break. They're as exciting to watch (although fundamentally sound) as snails doing the nasty. Movesets need to be unhindered (particularly in the cruiserweight division which is spot-centric wrestling to begin with) and all the talent needs to be on one show for that belt. The women's division is a crotch-stain on the company and either needs to be completely reconfigured (with everyone except Victoria fired) or scrapped altogether. Even the consolation of seeing big fake boobies and whatnot doesn't make up for the atrocious attempts at wrestling these airheads try to do. Because of all these mistakes the belts in discussion (both tag belts, cruiserweight belts, and the women's title) are all jokes...and I'm barely getting started. Everyone can thank Johnny Ace's dumb ass for putting these rosters together and scouting "talent." What a shmuck.

 

[William_Regal]

I'll make this simple on you. London & Kendrick=deserving champions. Umaga=deserving. Melina=deserving. Benoit=deserving. The rest of the champions and tag champs are garbage and shud be fired, not pushed down our throats...

WTF has Umaga done to deserve a title. Hes the most boring guy in the WWE. Theres only so many times you can find an big fat over yelling jibberish and ramming his arse into peoples faces entertaining.
The only good thing about Umaga is that Gorilla press into a samoan drop that he does.

And you say the rest of the champions are garbage. So Chavos a crap wrestler is he? And according to you HBK is garbage and needs firing.....are you freaking inbred?

The Womens division (Im not including shite like Candice Michelle and Ashley)

Milena
Mickie James
Victoria
Beth Phoenix
Katie Lea
Trinity

You shouldn't have included these names either. The womens division is a joke,plain and simple. The only one of the women who knows what the hell she's doing is Victoria,and she seems to get pinned every week.

Before you come out with stupid fucktard comments watch some of Milenas and Beth Phoenixs matchs in some of the indy pomotions.....
And ill also advise you to watch some of Katie Leas matchs (or Nikita as she was known in England) She is one of the best female wrestlers ive seen...better than alot of the guys.

 

[xmaggotxcorpsx]

The Womens division (Im not including shite like Candice Michelle and Ashley)

Milena
Mickie James
Victoria
Beth Phoenix
Katie Lea
Trinity

You shouldn't have included these names either. The womens division is a joke,plain and simple. The only one of the women who knows what the hell she's doing is Victoria,and she seems to get pinned every week.

Mickie James is either on par, or above Victoria's skills. As is Jillian Hall, who seems to be getting in the mix now.

 

[William_Regal]

I didnt include DX because Triple H is injured and I can see him and HBK feuding for the WWE title when he returns....

 

[JohnnyRodz]

WTF has Umaga done to deserve a title. Hes the most boring guy in the WWE. Theres only so many times you can find an big fat over yelling jibberish and ramming his arse into peoples faces entertaining.
The only good thing about Umaga is that Gorilla press into a samoan drop that he does.

And you say the rest of the champions are garbage. So Chavos a crap wrestler is he? And according to you HBK is garbage and needs firing.....are you freaking inbred?





Before you come out with stupid fucktard comments watch some of Milenas and Beth Phoenixs matchs in some of the indy pomotions.....
And ill also advise you to watch some of Katie Leas matchs (or Nikita as she was known in England) She is one of the best female wrestlers ive seen...better than alot of the guys.

And before you start with the namecalling bullshit,why don't you actually find some clips of the Japanese women in action. Those women know how to work.

 

[William_Regal]

Where exactly did I say Japanese women cant work ???? And more importantly wtf has Japanese wrestlers got to do with anything.

Im talking about WWE not using the talent available not who the WWE should sign......... If I was including in my post wrestlers not signed to the WWE then I would have had quite a few more added to some of the lists.

 

[Kasey]

^I think he's alluding to the fact that most of the American talent in the WWE can't work to save their lives. You see, in the nineties, there were pretty slim pickings in terms of ladies wrestling, stateside, so the WWF and WCW looked overseas. This is something they should do again, as the Women's division is a farce. They have lousy execution, a miniscule vocabulary in the ring, and some of the worst laid matches around. Regardless of how good some of these women have done on the indy circuit, having a couple of decent women on a roster that is already thin and underqualified, can't cope for the overall lack of talent. It's basically the equivalent of having one Shawn Michaels in a sea of John Cenas. Especially when the focus of the division isn't on in-ring performance, but rather mindless t*ts and ass. They do have a couple of moderately talented ladies, but you'd never know it because they put all the half-wit bimbos in the ring on a regular basis. Where are you Luna and Madusa?

 

[izzy11]

i think the wwe should stop this brand seperation thing and murge them together again. this would give them more options and better matchs regularly, i agree that wrestlers like cena and batista who are already established and holders of the biggest titles on there brands shouldn't hold the tag belts because it jus limits the amount of tag teams who are actually going to be able to beat them.
the womans title is just a joke. victoria and mickie james are the only ones who can wrestle. we need people like ivory back who can wrestle.
the cruisweights are amazing i think they need to have more matches amoungst each over for no 1 condership and then have a bit of a build up to there match. at the last couple of PPV its just been a battle royal or a gautlet match and they all finished to quick, i think these titles just need to have more options and better rivalrys and the wwe should make sure they give the title to the right wrestler and not to main eventors.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

actually i sort of feel like putting the belt on umaga could work out nicely...he could have one of those ridiculous unstoppable reighns that jus keeps goin on and on, and then out of nowere some crazy badass dude (whomever they decide to push into this position, be it shelton, or someone like that) could come out of nowere, and take it off him ala ultimate warrior-honky tonk man from back in the day...and i totally agree with everyone, in saying that the tag division needs to be unified, it would make the tag titles mean something again, I remeber back in the late 80s early 90s, when winning the tag titles was a really big deal, and i think if they reunified the belts it would make it that way again...big ups for giving the hardy's the belt on raw this past week though, thats a start....

 

[X]

I believe that already happened mighty norcal, but with John Cena. The guy has held the title for 20 of the last 24 monthes. That's disgusting. His title reign just keeps going on and on and on and he's built up to be the most unstoppable guy on the roster. Hey they even put him over Umaga.

I agree with you though on the Hardys thing, it was great to see them back with the tag titles and that's a damn good start off to things. All they need to do now is actually book tag team matches on PPV's.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

haha dont even get me started on cena...your totally right, and im starting to think that his title reighn may not EVER end lol....Im jus sayin umaga is actually built as a heel, and one that is a dominating monster type heel, while cena is just an annoyance, a person who they try to be the biggest ultra baby face ever but we all hate...the thing with umaga just sorta makes sense in a way were they could be like "who will finally put this monster to rest??" other than "who is finally gonna beat cena becuase we know u all hate him very much" lol....as for the tag teams...why in the world would they ever book good tag match ups at ppv's when they can book hella sweet matches like ashley vs candice michelle??? DUUUUhhh....no true wrestleing fan watches wrestling to see tits and ass, if i wanted to see that i would pick up my phone and have a girl come over lol if they unified the tag division it would be easier to put on real good tag matches...the hardys vs london in kendrick would be great, and I think the hardys could also have a real good match with cryme time if WWE decides to ever friggin use them again....does anyone else notice that jeff hardy has been favoring his back very badly ever since survivor series??? I havent seen any reports on if he is actually hurt, but i mean its during his taunts and intro and everything, I dont think its a work....

 

[Bernkastel]

^I think he's alluding to the fact that most of the American talent in the WWE can't work to save their lives. You see, in the nineties, there were pretty slim pickings in terms of ladies wrestling, stateside, so the WWF and WCW looked overseas. This is something they should do again, as the Women's division is a farce. They have lousy execution, a miniscule vocabulary in the ring, and some of the worst laid matches around. Regardless of how good some of these women have done on the indy circuit, having a couple of decent women on a roster that is already thin and underqualified, can't cope for the overall lack of talent. It's basically the equivalent of having one Shawn Michaels in a sea of John Cenas. Especially when the focus of the division isn't on in-ring performance, but rather mindless t*ts and ass. They do have a couple of moderately talented ladies, but you'd never know it because they put all the half-wit bimbos in the ring on a regular basis. Where are you Luna and Madusa?

I agree totally. There are 18 divas in wwe right now. 6 of them (Victoria, Jillian, Milena, Mickie, Trinity, and Ariel) are great performers but only 4 of those (Jillian, Victoria, Trinity, and Mickie) are top notch talents. IMO Ariel and Melina could use the practice but still they are miles ahead of the other divas in WWE. Those 6 excluded that leaves 12. 5 of those 12 (ashley, maria, candice, torrie, and sharmell) have potenital but are still very green in the ring and still can't perform to high standard with the exception of maybe Torrie. The rest (kelly, layla, brooke, michelle, cherry, maryse, and kristal) have little to no ring experience and shouldn't have even been hired unless WWE was actully serious about having them wrestle, if that was the case, then WWE should have trained these women first. I think Kasey said it pefectly, It doesn't really matter if wwe has women that can wrestle because (1) the talented girls are overshadowed by all the lack of talent and poor ring skills 6 to 12. And even though some of the other girls have experience, its just not enough, and you can obviously see that. (2) wwe won't use these girls to there full potenial because it just doesn't fit in with what Vince views a diva is obviously worth, because if it were differnet, then we wouldn't have all these crap divas. No we would have women like Daziee Haze, Melissa Anderson, Lacey, Riptide, Allison Danger, Beth Pheonix, April Hunter, Nikki Roxx, and Alere little feather competiting in their place.