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i must have seen it a thousand times. "HHH is only where he's at because of stephanie mcmahon. maybe he would have won a few ME titles but he wouldnt have 13" (i believe its 13 or close to it).

personally i disagree. i feel HHH is a great story teller and can flat out perform, in ring and on the mic. would he have as many title reigns or as much backstage power, most likely no, but he would still be a major player in the wwe.

so just how good do you think HHH is?
 
i know i've seen this alot lately, but IMPO, i think that HHH is without a doubt, the best storyteller out there in the business right now... 13 time WWE/WH champion, but i personally like some of his rivalries, where there wasn't a title involved (Big Show in '06, Jericho in '02, and this past year with Legacy) Hunter knows how to tell a story in the ring, no matter with who he's up against... again, IMPO, he is a bonafide 1st ballot HOFer... one of the best that ever laced up boots
 
Of course he's a first ballot HOFer in the WWE HOF but I think its for different reasons. I do agree that he is a great storyteller in the ring and has some pretty good matches. I think the problem is that we know about his position in the company, who he's married to and what not. Whether or not we want to think this is because he just that damn good, its hard not wonder how much of this is from his relationships.

But how good do I think he is? I think this he one the best performers right now. I won't judge him off his titles because then I will put into account his position. But I do believe he would still be a muti world champ and be as over as he is now. Not too many guys can tell a story in a match itself and HHH does a great job of doing just that.
 
I think he's awesome. Whether he's face or heel he gains a great crowd response. Personally I don't believe he is where he is because he's married to Steph, he and Shawn pitched the DX idea to Vince and eventually persuaded him to allow them to do it, and there was plenty of times where he could have surpassed Flair's 16 World Title reign, against Batista, against Cena, against Orton, he could've won the Rumble and won at 'Mania but he didn't.

Anyways, the guy can put on some great matches. Cena, not the greatest wrestler in the world, but the two put on a great 20 minute match last year, was in October I think. He sells great, and his feuds are always top notch, the Legacy feud was done well, and even though it dragged the Orton feud, specifaclly at 'Mania last year was great. No doubt a future HOFer. No matter how far away from the original DX they've gotten Hunter can crack jokes and still make you laugh with what he says/does aswell.
 
Triple H is a very good wrestler with a great persona, great gimmick, and has been massively over for years. But the one thing Triple H has always lacked is the defining moment. Whether it be a match or a legendary feud, he lacks the single moments that can define one's legacy.

Here me out, most of the top legend status performers have at least one. Shawn Michaels can be remembered for his ladder match at WM X, the first Hell in a Cell match, his match with Ric Flair at WM24, his match with Taker at WM25 and many other moments. Mick Foley's career will always be remembered for Hell in the Cell 98. As big as Steve Austin's career was, you can place his defining moments on his feuds with McMahon and The Rock. The same can be said for The Rock and his feud with Austin and his WM18 match with Hogan Even Hogan's storied career can be capped by his match with Andre at WMIII.

I am a fan of Triple H, but his "greatness" can only be defined by the amount of time he has spent on top. Triple H lacks that one thing that can define his career. The only two things that I can think of that would come close would be his 2002 comeback and maybe, just maybe his feud with HBK from 02-04. I think he had a great opportunity to capture that career defining moment with Orton at last year's WM, but a poorly executed match in combination with the legendary HBK/Taker match crushed that notion.
 
HHH is the men even before he married the bosses daughter,He still had championships around his waist.Triple H has had all the WWF/WWE titles, I dont know if has capture more title then any one in the WWF/WWE era for sure.But anyways enough with the titles.

Triple H puts on some great matches with who ever he faces a heel or a face,From tall to short.And if he thinks that the match aint going well he trys his best to improve the match.Also the crowd loves him,When he turns heel he knows how to make the crowd hate him,And when he turns face he also know how to work the crowd very good.

And we all know that when Triple H retires there will always be a spot for him in the company,Maybe a future WWE owner.And we all know that he is also a future hall of famer for all the things he was accomplish in the WWE.
 
The easy argument against HHH is his marriage to Steph, "Oh if it wasn't for her, he wouldn't of won so many titles." However, if you look up his title reigns, both WWE and World titles, you would see that he has never held the title for full year, ala Cena. He's got over 200 days a couple of times but never 300. Yeah he won the titles a combined 13 times but he also lost them 13 times. That is what makes HHH so great. Just think about it for a minute. During the Attitude Era, the top 4 were Austin, Rock, HHH, and Taker. Now take HHH away from that time. Would the WWE still be around? Before you answer that, you need to realize the list of people who he lost the titles to. Just a few: Vince McMahon, Hulk Hogan, Chris Bennoit, Batisita, The Rock(during a 6 man tag who ever gets the pin is the champ match) Big Show, and Randy Orton (that crazy Last Man Standing Match at No Way Out 2007). It is pretty clear that HHH has no problem putting people over, no matter how silly it makes him look ala Vince and Hogan. And that's just with the world titles and not including others such as IC and tag.

People will always question HHH not only cuz of his marriage to Steph but also cuz of his alliance within the "Klique". However, its not always about the number of titles you win, hell HBK and Hitman are stuck around the old WWE high of 5, its about how you represent yourself as champion. Are you willing to do whatever it takes to make the company better, even if it means losing your title? Do you put people over or do you huff and puff till you get your way? My advice to you if you still question HHH is find video of the first season of Tough Enough on MTV when HHH was a guest trainer. Pay close attention to his passion, don't worry you can't miss it!
 
I think HHH is the best combined in-ring and mic worker, and has been for a very long time. There are a few who come close (jericho and Punk are not quite on the same levell in the ring yet, and Ortons mic skills are not as good as hunters, IMO) I hate it whe people start to say HHH is only where he is because he married Stephanie (like you would'nt, if you got the chance!) HHH wants to put over new stars, and bring himself out of the title picture a bit. He has only won twice at WM since 2002, if he wanted to break Flair's record, don't you think his record would be a bit better than that?
 
I am a fan of Triple H, but his "greatness" can only be defined by the amount of time he has spent on top. Triple H lacks that one thing that can define his career. The only two things that I can think of that would come close would be his 2002 comeback and maybe, just maybe his feud with HBK from 02-04. I think he had a great opportunity to capture that career defining moment with Orton at last year's WM, but a poorly executed match in combination with the legendary HBK/Taker match crushed that notion.

So what you are saying is that DX, Evolution,the Corporation, the McMahon-Helmsley Era, and The Two Man Power Trip are not defining moments? Ok so you want defining matches. Well here's a couple:

1) Hell in a Cell vs Jericho : What makes this match memorable is not the fact that HHH pinned Y2J on top of the cage but ever since no other Hell in a Cell match as seen action of any kind on the top of the cage.

2) Hell in Cell vs Foley At the time, this was Foley's retirement match.

3) 2001 Quad Injury This happened during a tag match of HHH/Austin vs Y2J/Bennoit. HHH should of quit the match right there but instead he kept going, letting Jericho put him in the "Walls" to finish the match.

These and everything I said earlier is why HHH is great. Remember too, if it wasn't for HHH there would be no Sable. Also when Hall and Nash left for WCW, HHH was the one who got punished for "The MSG Incident" but he took it like a man and didn't complain and cuz of that punishment SCSA won the King of the Ring.
 
I think without a doubt triple h is one of the best. I dont know he would been a 13 time world champion if he wasn't vince's golden son in law. But i know triple h has always had backstage from when he was with steph. I'll also add triple h is a 100 times better as a heel then a face.
 
So what you are saying is that DX, Evolution,the Corporation, the McMahon-Helmsley Era, and The Two Man Power Trip are not defining moments? Ok so you want defining matches. Well here's a couple:

1) Hell in a Cell vs Jericho : What makes this match memorable is not the fact that HHH pinned Y2J on top of the cage but ever since no other Hell in a Cell match as seen action of any kind on the top of the cage.

2) Hell in Cell vs Foley At the time, this was Foley's retirement match.

3) 2001 Quad Injury This happened during a tag match of HHH/Austin vs Y2J/Bennoit. HHH should of quit the match right there but instead he kept going, letting Jericho put him in the "Walls" to finish the match.

These and everything I said earlier is why HHH is great. Remember too, if it wasn't for HHH there would be no Sable. Also when Hall and Nash left for WCW, HHH was the one who got punished for "The MSG Incident" but he took it like a man and didn't complain and cuz of that punishment SCSA won the King of the Ring.

I can appreciate the fact that you actually provided great points to your argument, so let me clarify my position a bit. Triple H is undoubtedly one of the greatest we have ever seen. I never bought into the argument that he doesn't deserve all of the accolades he has achieved because of his marriage to the "Boss' Daughter".

But when I bring up the defining moment, it is something that is hard to explain, but most fans will know what you are talking about. A defining moment is not only a moment that you can use to say "This was the best thing that he did in his career" but it is also something that at that time was the biggest and most successful match or program in the industry at that time. I think a wrestler's "defining moment" doesn't only act as a reflection of his career, but also as a reflection of that time period.

When DX was at its hottest and Triple H was at the helm as its leader, the industry was absorbed with McMahon vs Austin. When Triple H was in the Corporation, it was still about McMahon vs Austin and later Rock vs Austin. Triple H did get the spotlight during the McMahon/Helmsley era but in my personal opinion, that entire program just didn't get over as much some of the previous years feuds. I'd be interested to hear some other opinions about the McMahon/Helmsley era in 2000. The Two Man power trip would have been HUGE and had a HUGE payoff had Triple H not gotten injured.

I think your strongest argument is with Evolution, as they were one of the best executed stables in many many years. But in the entire time Triple H was in Evolution, can you think any feud he had that you can honestly say "Wow, that was one of the best things I've seen in years"? His feud with HBK and the break up angles with Orton and Batista are the only things that stand out in my mind, and of those feuds, the only great matches I can think of is the Triple Threat from WM 20 and the Hell in a Cell with Batista.

You brought up the Mick Foley Hell in a Cell match, and while agree, it was a great match, that match does not stand out compared to the rest of either Foley's or Triple H's catalog of matches.

Again, I am not bashing Triple H. I am a HUGE fan, as I said, I think he has one of the most believable gimmicks in the industry. But I stand by my statement, when compared to the other cornerstones of the WWE, the one thing that Triple H lacks is THE match that everyone will talk about 10 years from now.

For HBK, everyone will talk about the ladder match or his match with Taker. For Ric Flair, it's his match with Steamboat or his Wrestlemania match with HBK. For Austin, his WM matches with The Rock or his feud with McMahon. Foley, his first HiaC. For Taker, his match with HBK and his first and second HiaC. Hogan, his match with Andre. Savage, his match with Steamboat at WM. I honestly don't think Triple H has a match that he can put against these classics.
 
All of the true greats always had a great rival and I think HHH got kinda robbed of that. HBK had Bret, Stone Cold and Taker. Ric Flair had Sting, Hogan and Ricky Steamboat. Hogan had Flair, Macho, Andre, Million Dollar and anybody Bobby the Brain could find. Hunter's best chance at having a true rival would have came if the Rock would have stayed in wrestling, if we hadn't lost Owen Hart or if the WWE didn't lose Kurt Angle. To me those were his main rivals some people might think Orton but I think he and Cena belong to each other as top rivals. HHH vs The Rock was always had good matches and they had great promos together like DX impersonating the NAtion of Domination and Rock talking about how he and HHH were rivals back when they were babies, cavemen and anything else he could think of. Hunter and Owen had a good rivalry over the European title and how he lost the title by letting Hunterdust(Golddust dressed as HHH) defend his title. His rivalries with Kurt Angle were good too with Kurt Angle having a crush on Steph. I guess what I'm getting at is that Triple H is very good and not overrated but he could have be better now if he had a believable rivalry because outside of Taker and Shawn nobody is really on his level career wise so when he loses it doesn't have seem like a huge upset.
 
I havent been posting much lately, cuz I feel the spam rules are just rediculous here. I actually PAY MONEY for a Michigan football website & forum, and they dont have the fine line/strictness of rules that you guys have here. My last straw was when I was punished for my comments in a thread regarding the Royal Rumble & how WWE "worked" everyone in that particular thread- they(the people) thought HHH was legit hurt again & maybe it was a mistake that HBK was eliminated before the end of the match. Aparently because I didnt explain WHY I thought most people in the thread were being "worked over" by Vince- I got a "ban" or whatever its called here. Completely rediculous in my opinion but: it is what it is & this isnt my website. SO- I accept it for what it is & I will now only put in my 2 cents on things that I really care about. Rather then trying to comment on most everything, hoping to be a real part of the "community" here. OK- now that I got that off my chest: :rolleyes:

As for HHH... and in hopes that I dont spam another thread....

I think he is where he is, because he is just that damn good! Would he have the complete & total control over his and maybe other characters w/o being married to Steph? - probly not even close. But he'd still be a multi time world champion. Remember who he was dating before he got involved with Steph? Thats right...CHYNA! :wtf: Hunter was doing his thing in this business before he was even involved with Steph. Chyna? Really?

Another reason he's one of the top entertainers ever is cuz he isnt afraid to put people over. Im sure theres been "times" where he's been able bury other peoples ideas, but you dont think taker does the same? & Takers not "in the family" at all. I remember HHH losing to the fucking Brooklyn Brawler on TV before! Has anyone ever put over the Brooklyn Brawler before?? Holy Shit Man!!

Someone already mentioned this: but when he knew he had a quad tear and still let Jericho put him in the Walls of Jericho to finish the match, that told me all I needed to know about this guy.

Paul LeVesque will do ANYTHING for the wrestling industry! He was doing it before he was ever involved with Steph, so what would stop him now? Absolutely Nothing!! He's a man amoungst boys in the industry IMO.
 
Without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, I think that Triple H is one of the greatest wrestlers not only of our time, but to ever lace up a pair of boots. He has some of the best in ring skills I have ever seen any wrestler apply. He has a steady moveset that consists of WAYY more than just five moves. He can carry the younger talent, and make them look amazing. His microphone skills are absoutely amazing. And all of those reasons are why he is my favorite wrestler.
 
Triple H is very good, and I find it extremely silly when someone diminishes HHH abilities because he's married to Stephanie. HHH is a great professional wrestler. He is truly brillant on the mic, and equally as great in the ring. He knows how to tell a story, when either talking or wrestling. A lot of people can't see this and are blinded by the fact that he's married to the boss' daughter. Triple H would still be a multiple time champion had he not been on such good terms with Vince.
 
I see it as a mix of both. He's amazing, one of the best ever. But his relationship with the McMahon family is definitely a big reason why he's where he is. So many other talented individuals have come and gone through WWE and hardly got a chance to shine. He is one of the best because he has the opportunity to be the best. Without a doubt, he's made stars, even at WrestleMania (Benoit, Batista, Cena) and his rivalry with Flair at the end of '05 was great. He didn't marry Steph to get where he is, it just so happens that everything has happened the way it has. So my answer is: Both.
 
Triple H is one of the best all around performers that has stepped into a WWE ring. I personally think that he is good at everything that is needed to be a good superstar. He is good in the ring, he is good on the mic and he is a great character to behold. Since adopting the King of Kings gimmick, I think that he is showed another side of himself and you can see that through all of his gimmicks that he is extremely versatile as a face or a heel. It is very rare that you find someone who is as good at one as he is the other and I think that Triple H, along with Kurt Angle, is a great example of someone who is just extremely comfortable in a wrestling ring.

I don't think it would make a difference if he had married Stephanie or not because he was on his way up the company before this even came to fruition. Would he be as successful? Maybe not. However, the point remains that Triple H is a wrestler. That may seem obvious but he is as pure as a wrestler could be. He is a company man and wrestling goes through his veins like blood. He found his niche and I think that he would still be a top guy.
 
Again i say let's compare HHH to other wrestlers - He's not as good as Chris Jericho (5 titles), not as good as the undertaker (a better storyteller and 7 titles), not as good as shawn micheals (6 titles) and had a 2009 with i think 2 good matches

Would triple h have 13 titles fuck no, he would have seven or 6 (if he never married stephanie)

Look back on H last year - 2 good matches and one of the worst main events of all time agaist randy orton.
 
Rodendaroh, nowadays it doesn't matter how many titles you have. Edge has 9 since 2006. Most of those were very short reigns. All of Mankind's reigns were transitional. One of HHH's title reigns lasted about 2 hours. Don't compare talent to how many titles they have (Khali has one). Regardless, HHH is still one of the best in the business.
 
I agree with rodendaroh, triple h wouldn't be shit without stephanie. He's just as good as any other average wrestler. He's nothing special. People like hbk, taker, orton, jericho, edge, bourne, and mysterio are real talents.
 
Again, I am not bashing Triple H. I am a HUGE fan, as I said, I think he has one of the most believable gimmicks in the industry. But I stand by my statement, when compared to the other cornerstones of the WWE, the one thing that Triple H lacks is THE match that everyone will talk about 10 years from now.

For HBK, everyone will talk about the ladder match or his match with Taker. For Ric Flair, it's his match with Steamboat or his Wrestlemania match with HBK. For Austin, his WM matches with The Rock or his feud with McMahon. Foley, his first HiaC. For Taker, his match with HBK and his first and second HiaC. Hogan, his match with Andre. Savage, his match with Steamboat at WM. I honestly don't think Triple H has a match that he can put against these classics.

I like ur counter points, especially about the whole Austin vs McMahon thing, I see your point but there is one match of HHH's that I didn't list because to be honest I never saw it so I didn't want to commit on it. However, after reading your last post I watched on YouTube and it deff deserves a discussion.

Rock vs HHH Summer Slam 98 Ladder Match for the IC belt Personally, I think the Rock was to HHH what Sting was to Flair. They battled each other as mid-carders for the IC belt, as main eventers for the World Belt, face, heel, anywhich way possible. But in my opinion this match helped spring board them both to the main event. The match is over 30 minutes long and there is blood. The only problem comes at the end as Mark Henry and Chyna get involved.

The reasons this match is deff a defining moment is cuz like I said it springboard both to the main event. Just like Shawn vs Hall did.(that match was not Shawn's best of all time but it helped put him on the map for good). Just like what the slam of Andre did for Hogan(besides the slam and the fact that Andre actually lost, that match wasn't that memorable, it barely lasted 10 mins or so but the torch was passed) or what Savage vs Steamboat did for their careers.

The fact is that HHH, Rock, and Austin they all needed each other in order to have the success that they did. Sure Austin/McMahon was memorable but at various points both the Rock and HHH were apart of that. It wouldn't have worked if Vince didn't have someone fight his battles for him. Take any of the 3 way and the other two's careers suffer. They all climbed up the ladder (no pun intended) together, fighting for the IC title, then the World.

What makes all 3 of these guys great is that really you could pit them up against almost anyone and be guaranteed a good story. Look at what the Rock did for Billy Gunn in that classic exchange on Raw.

Note When I brought up DX in my last post, the version I meant was the original one with HBK, HHH, Chyna and Rick Rude. That was deff a defining moment since they battled the Hart Foundation up till the ScrewJob. Sure HBK/Hart was the marque but would it have worked without HHH? In order to fully appreciate the careers of either Austin, Rock, Hart, HBK, or HHH you have to mention most if not all of the others as well. You can't talk about Joe Montana and not mention both John Elway and Dan Marino. Same thing.
 
Personally, i think both.

Triple H is without a doubt a Hall of Famer one day and will always be known as one of the greats in WWE. He puts on great feuds and can play both face and heel characters. His matches arent that bad either. The only things i have against Triple H are that he starting to become boring in his matches, at least at the end, and hes always in the main event. Hes a 13 time world champion, he doesnt need the belt anymore. I sometimes feel he has trouble putting people over but sometimes he does put people over. But all in all, he is a great wrestler.


Now do i feel he would be as far today in the WWE as he is if he hadnt marries Stephanie McMahon, NO. He would be a big star today, but i just feel like today, he gets his way all the freaking time because hes basically a McMahon. He always wins, always gets title shots and basically always gets what he wants cuz hes married to Steph and has a huge say in what goes on. But he would be a big star, but he wouldnt have gotten there so fast. And right now in the WWE im tired of always seeing Triple H is the main event. I wanna see someone new. Though i know hes there because he can pull off a main event or a title match. What WWE really needs to do to Triple H is turn him heel, but i guess we'll just see what happens.

So overall, yes Triple H is good but i dont think he would have gotten as far so fast and would have so much say and get what he wants if he werent married to Steph.
 
I believe HHH is a great storytelling, very good ring psychologist, good on the mic, and overall a great wrestler. With that said some of his success has come because of his association with the McMahon's (its not a knock against the guy, but there is some truth to that statement).

Everyone and their dog knows that HHH plays the politics game in the WWE (this has been going on since long before he ever had a relationship with Steph), always has and always will. You certainly can't blame the guy for doing that as it helps you get ahead in the business, and you gotta take care of yourself.

Not only that HHH has some major skill in the wrestling business, he does almost everything well and he is one of the (if not the) most dedicated worker in the WWE and has been for at least 10 years now, a combination of both is a recipe for success in the business.

I feel a combination of both(skill and politics) is the reason HHH has been so successful over the years, HHH would have certainly been a World Champ and main eventer with or without that political stroke because he has the talent to back it up, but I have been watching wrestling a lot of years and even though HHH is great at what he does, I have seen much better get treated much worse, and I've also seen much worse get pushed to the moon basically because of who he is associated with (there was this guy named the Ultimate Warrior, had zero skill and got pushed to the moon because McMahon had a boner for the guy).

This brings me to the conclusion that HHH would never have been 13 time world champion unless he played the political game at least once in a while (many think that maybe RVD and Booker T should have had runs with the title between 02-04, but RVD has never been on McMahon's good boy list so even though he was one of the, if not the most popular guy on the roster, he was stuck in the mid-card and in makeshift tag teams for most of his career). As the old saying goes: its not what you know, its who you know.

The better your relationship is with the boss, the easier it will be to get ahead (especially if that person has the skill, drive and determination of someone like HHH, with everything that HHH brings to the table, its easy to see why Vince likes the guy so much and is willing to keep him in that position) and I feel HHH truly earned everything he got through his work on and off the camera.

SIDE NOTE: No I don't believe he married steph to get ahead and it was one of those things that happens.
 
HHH is one of the smartest wrestlers to ever step in the ring and one of the best gimmick wrestlers ever winning 3 Stages of Hell, Hell in a Cell, Ladder, and Elimination Chamber matches against the best WWE has to offer. No doubt that he will be a hall of famer when he retires.

With all that said, I believe HHH was only as good as Stone Cold Steve Austin. When Austin was injured, HHH and the Rock shot up to the forefront up the company and put on great matches. When Austin came back, it was no doubt that he was the number one guy in that company. Rock lost the title and made movies and HHH teamed up with Austin and subsequently got injured. If Austin hadn't got hurt, I believe HHH wouldn't be as big as he is today. HHH got to be the dominant champion during the worst period RAW can remember which didn't do himself favors when hogging the title. He can still put on the occasional good match but he wasn't as good as he was around 2000-2001.
 
Do Triple H's in-ring accomplishments, taken by themselves, add up to a HOF career? Absolutely. People make too much out of his marriage to Boobs McMahon. You have to realize something about her father...Vince McMahon does what he does, because he believe it is in the best interests of his business, not because its in the best interests of his family. You could make a case that some of HHH's titles were transitional, that they needed a way to get the belt off of Wrestler A, and put it on Wrestler C, but, they are both faces, or both heels. He has had a lot of titles, but, look at how long he has held each of them. His total time with a heavyweight belt cannot begin to compare with wrestlers like Hogan or Flair. Some his reigns lasted two months, or less. One of those title reigns was for about 20 minutes, if that. If being married to Stephanie held that much weight, you would think Triple H would be far more dominant than he has been. Instead, what you see is Triple just being one of many multiple time champions since 2002, when the WWE brought back the WHC. John Cena has already held a heavyweight belt 7 times, and he has only been with the WWE since 2002. Also debuting for the WWE in 2002, Randy Orton has 6 heavyweight titles to his name. The Undertaker is a 7 time champ (overall, not just since 2002). The WWE has shared the wealth a lot more during HHH's time in the company. Yeah, HHH has been a multiple time champ, but so has CM Punk. So has Jeff Hardy. So have Y2J, Batista and Edge. In other words, he has held a belt a lot, but, the title isn't as precious a commodity as it was during Hogan and Flair's day.

What do I mean by precious commodity? Simple. Unlike during Hulk Hogan's era, there are TWO Heavyweight titles for HHH to go for, which also means there are more title opportunities. Instead of one champion for a roster of 60, you have 1 champion in a roster of 30, twice. Triple H has had a much easier time "deserving" to be the man, because they can have Triple H be champ, but they can also have John Cena, Edge, Undertaker etc be champ at the same time, because there are two belts, not one.

You also have to take into consideration, just how much the game has bled and suffered for the WWE. He is a guy that suffered not one, but TWO career ending injuries, that didn't end his career. Being married to Stephanie didn't help him recover from those torn quads, his ferocious tenacity and high pain threshold did that. Triple H's recovery from those injuries show he has a set of grapefruits as big as Vince's. The man is TOUGH.

I respect Triple H, even if I don't particularly care for him. He is not, never has been, nor ever will be one of my favorite wrestlers, but, c'mon. When you look at his career, the answer to whether or not Triple H is that good? Yeah. He is.
 

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