He's Dead...Oh Nevermind

[#hamler]

Near Death Experiences
Most anyone having these types of experiences follow a certain pattern.

The experience begins with noise and the sense of being dead. This is followed by a sense of calm and serenity. The next feeling is that of floating, leaving the physical self behind. Many talk about floating within a blue tunnel and seeing a bright light at the end of it. They claim to meet deceased relatives within the tunnel. Some even see and speak to spiritual figures or deities or the god they believe in. They also confirm to a review of their own lives the before reaching the boundary. Thereafter, there is a feeling of returning to the body and warmth.

Science says Fuck You
The scientific community believes that the experiences are hallucinations. Psychiatrists believe that near death experiences are a series of physical responses, either due to drugs and medications or circumstance and environment responses.Others argue that stress that results from a near death situation like in a fatal automobile accident leads to the phenomenon. Many psychologists and those studying Near Death Expiriences recognize the effect of psychopathological symptoms, but focus on the translation of the experiences of the experienced. The primary focus of the study is the damage to brain power and the influence of a person’s religious and cultural beliefs in a near death situation.

Example

I must say that this experience was quite unsettling to say the least. I was floating over my body. could see and hear everything that was being said and done. I left the room for a short while and then returned to where my body lay. I knew why I died. It was because I couldn't breathe. There was a tube down my throat and the medical staff did not have an oxygen mask on my nose. I had also been given too much anesthetic.

In my out-of-body state, I'm using my mind to try and make my right arm and hand move - my arms are extended parallel to my physical body. I want my right hand to move, any thing to move.I was trying to pull the tube out of my mouth. I looked down at my face and tears were streaming.One of the nurses blotted the tears from my face but she didn't notice my breathing had stopped, nor did she see me next to her. At this point, I'm trying really hard to make my physical arm move, but it's like my whole body is made of lead."

I could see my spirit standing before me. My spirit was so beautifully perfect, dressed in a white.

I don't know about you guys but this shit is bone chilling. Discussion Questions;

- Do you believe in NDE (Near Death Experiences)?

- What are your thoughts on the people who have them?

Discuss this shit.

 

[LSN80]

Do you believe in NDE (Near Death Experiences)?

It sent chills up my spine just thinking about it, honestly. But I certainly do. Let me explain.

I remember studying near death experiences in a graduate lecture on brain physiology and neurochemistry. We had a lecture on how neurotransmitters function. The lecturer explained that when the body experiences a trauma, such as being pierced by a bullet or going under the knife in surgery (if anesthesia fails to sedate and there is some consciousness), there is a physical and neurological response whereby the body is flooded with endorphins. He believed it was this "rush" that allowed a person to survive intense physical pain as part of human evolution.

To me, it's similar to hearing about a regular person who, in an emergency situation, has a surge of adrenaline allowing him/her to rescue another in a feat of extraordinary strength, like lifting a car. Going back to the idea that endorphin rush allows us to survive sudden physical trauma, I believe that the painful experience was also stored in areas of the brain devoted to physical and emotional memory, the hippothalamus and the amygdala. In my opinion, it's precisely the endorphin rush that gave the person a hallucinatory vision during the trauma, a sense of dissociation from the reality of pain: floating outside the body, seeing a tunnel, or moving toward the light. So on this one, screw science.

- What are your thoughts on the people who have them?

Like I said, i think it's no different then the person who has the incredible source of adrenaline that gives them super human strength, such as the mother saving her younger child from under the 2000 pound car. To me, this is simply the converse. Science has yet to account for exactly where these "adrenaline rushes" come from, so they dismiss them just the same as they do near death experiences. But I think people who have them likely do because of a combination of things, most involving drugs. Whether it be under anesthesia(been there, just not in a "near death" capacity), or for someone who overdoses, I believe that people who go through these experiences have so effed up their brains in one capacity, or another, that the idea that they're dying is very real to them. There's also the lovely concept of waterboarding, which noone can dismiss as not being a near death experience, as the person goes through all the stages of dying(drowing, feeling of floating, leaving one's conscience, etc.). So I believe that there are people who do go through near death experiences, and who am I to doubt them?

 

[Ultra Awesome]

Before I start, I'd like to point out that I legit Lol'd at the 'Science says fuck you' part.

Ok, now down to business.

- Do you believe in NDE (Near Death Experiences)?

- What are your thoughts on the people who have them?

Well, there's two ways to look at this. In the first, you can think that these 'Near death Experiences' really DO occur or you could think that they are just some form of hallucinations.

In the first, saying that 'Near Death Experiences are real would, in a way, mean that you are admitting that spiritual beings do exist - that there is a life for us after we die. Maybe not specifically heaven; but there is something - a place that we go to or a new form that we take (i.e. spirit form) and thus wonder off to wherever it is we go. Such thoughts can lead to overall assumption that Psychic's who are able to connect with the afterlife is serious shit. Hell, believing in these 'Near Death Experiences' will open countless doors to different ideas that have been shut down in the past by modern-age thinking.

On the other hand, if you DONT believe in 'Near Death Eperiences', than it's like saying that such things are nothing more than hallucinations that one has that are caused by enviorenmental/psychological factors that affect your mind into thinking that way and creating wierd visions suhc as the one explained in the OP. Ultimately, such beliefs tie in more to the fact that when one dies...they dies; and that's it. When they die, they will venture into a place called nothingness - a realm that is non-existent. In other words, there is nothing for you after you die.

Of course, just because 'Near Death Experiences' are disproven does not mean that there really isn't anything for us in the afterlife - No. It's just something that would more relate to it.

But in the end, I think that I'm going to have to side with 'Science saying fuck you.' I believe that 'Near Death Experiences' are nothing more than hallucinations caused by certain factors in life. While although it may not be exactly proven that they are just indeed hallucinations, it still seems like the more logical choice to pick. I find it kind of hard to believe that one is able to do said phenomena while on the brink of death (or during death).

Though, really, who knows what is ture and what isn't.

Discuss this shit.

CLS FTW!!!

 

[Xemmy]

- Do you believe in NDE (Near Death Experiences)?
Not in the sense that they'll claim. As most who know me, I say on the side of Science.
I'll trust the guys with Ph.Ds alot more than some guy who just got off his medication talking about how he was in tunnel. But I've been wrong more than once.

- What are your thoughts on the people who have them?
I feel sorry for them for having to go through that experience.

1. For being put into that situation.
2. For believing them to be real.

The first time I have a spirit floating in front of me, I'm not going to claim divine intervention. I'm going to the mental hospital.