Heat on Flair, Again

[KNPKH2ster]

I believe its best that TNA release Ric Flair. It was fine for one night to bring him (same with Hogan), but the effects of nostalgia have officially worn off in TNA.

 

[A.T.Rowl]

I thin tna is getting ready for a major push in regards to flair. Definetly see him picking up the strap at least one more time. This heat he is getting now is a work. Trust me on that. He cut a promo at basebrawl about a title reign. Dude is way over. I could see him climbing the mountain next year at genesis and then putting over the next big star. Prob daniela ir bully ray

 

[Rayne]

When I watch a guy like Mr. Anderson I can see that he's there for the better and not just cruising on his name to collect a paycheck.

Speaking as someone who's spoken to Ken Anderson on terms somewhat more familiar than "would you please sign my program", I can promise you that his goal in being in TNA is not to make TNA a better company. His interest and their interests coincide in such a way that it makes sense for Kenderson to give his absolute best performance, but he isn't there because he wants TNA to be awesome.

Kenderson is in TNA because he wants to be famous, and he can't work for the WWE right now. Working in TNA, you aren't going to get famous. They are a long, long, long ways away from elevating performers to the point where they can be mainstream media figures starring in multiple movies. (And for the TNA diehards itching to jump in, one episode of "Family Feud" during a heavy co-branding push does not make a household name.)

He resigned last year based on the very obvious conclusion the WWE wasn't going to rehire him after a year. The "let's let everyone calm down" approach didn't work; now, his best option is to work for TNA and build up his name recognition to the point where the WWE will want him back. Kenderson's a fame ****e, and TNA doesn't make people famous. They're a stepping stone on the way to being famous. Don't get overly fond of Kenderson in TNA, because when the WWE comes calling, he'll be there to answer the phone.

 

[D-Man]

In short, I don't think Flair is worth it anymore, not at all.

I can't agree with this. Well, not entirely.

Is Flair worth defeating in the ring? No.
Does he act like a batshit-crazy psychopath during promos? Yes.
Is he currently a big deal in wrestling? Not unless you are also a wrestler.
Is he beginning to turn into a liability on the road? Yes.

But let's look at the facts: None of these things began until Flair entered TNA.

When Flair got into TNA it was almost like he became a different person. It seemed like they turned off his filter, so to speak. So once Flair got a little bit of rope, he took enough to practically hang himself. His promo style is completely different. He's basically turned into an attention-****e where all eyes must be on him or he must be the main focus of everything. You can tell that TNA promos aren't as scripted as they are in the WWE. I think this is a major flaw in their product. So you can see how Flair is constantly interrupting his promo opponent all the time and always has to act like a complete and utter lunatic in order to satisfy his own ego.

Now, this does not discount the fact that when given the opportunity and the proper structure, Flair can cut a fantastic promo and elevate other superstars, even without getting into the ring with them. If he was given a filter, I see no reason why he wouldn't always be beneficial to the business. He needs to have the extra rope taken away and cannot be handed so much freedom just because of his past accomplishments in the business and out of "respect" for what he's done. He's a worker just like everyone else and he needs to be treated accordingly. Once TNA wakes up and realizes this, Flair will become an asset again.

 

[klunderbunker]

I can't agree with this. Well, not entirely.

Is Flair worth defeating in the ring? No.
Does he act like a batshit-crazy psychopath during promos? Yes.
Is he currently a big deal in wrestling? Not unless you are also a wrestler.
Is he beginning to turn into a liability on the road? Yes.

But let's look at the facts: None of these things began until Flair entered TNA.

When Flair got into TNA it was almost like he became a different person. It seemed like they turned off his filter, so to speak. So once Flair got a little bit of rope, he took enough to practically hang himself. His promo style is completely different. He's basically turned into an attention-****e where all eyes must be on him or he must be the main focus of everything. You can tell that TNA promos aren't as scripted as they are in the WWE. I think this is a major flaw in their product. So you can see how Flair is constantly interrupting his promo opponent all the time and always has to act like a complete and utter lunatic in order to satisfy his own ego.

Now, this does not discount the fact that when given the opportunity and the proper structure, Flair can cut a fantastic promo and elevate other superstars, even without getting into the ring with them. If he was given a filter, I see no reason why he wouldn't always be beneficial to the business. He needs to have the extra rope taken away and cannot be handed so much freedom just because of his past accomplishments in the business and out of "respect" for what he's done. He's a worker just like everyone else and he needs to be treated accordingly. Once TNA wakes up and realizes this, Flair will become an asset again.

I'll believe that when I see it, which is going to be a long way away. TNA has never had that filter that it needs and it probably won't for awhile. They don't get that they can't just throw anything out there and have it work. Flair is a great example of this. He does need a filter, but I'd bet a lot of money that he'll never get one.

 

[ABMorales787]

Filter? The fact that he needs one shows there are issues with him. Why is it that there are so many names in TNA yet only he (and The Hardy's) are the ones acting like this? Flair shouldn't need a filter. He's a 30 year veteran. He should know better. Hogan does. Steiner does. RVD, the flagship of wrestling high, knows better. Why can't Flair then? Why should TNA "get a filter"? For 2 guys who don't want to play by the rules? TNA isn't the problem. It's Flair. Yes, he may be one of the biggest in the business, but that's no excuse for his behavior. He still has responsibilities and he is just as expendable as Jeff Hardy. Let's face it, is TNA any different with him than without him right now? He's not a producer like Bischoff and he's not a public figure like Hulk Hogan. He's just there.

Why should TNA become strict just because of one bad apple, for one bad apple?

 

[JackBurton]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/art...at-on-ric-flair-over-tna-nyc-situation-132287



Thoughts on all of this?

Bro you know my thoughts on nameless sources being quoted as saying things that suit the intent of the article.

Get the dude who did the Bischoff interview on Wrestlezone to contact Eric. Then we can get a name to a source and more than likely the actual facts of the situation.

btw. Guys like Flair kept the doors of WCW open before EB took over.

The business DOES owe him something.

 

[Bigrog25]

It's ric flair at the end of the day I really doubt he gives two s**ts what anybody says about him, the same people saying this crap to the dirtsheets I'm sure act like his best friend to his face. I'm under the belief he will be back on tv soon, as the next night he cut a promo talking about going after the championship starting next week or something along those lines. This would also go with the interview he did recently with mark madden. He hasn't been on tv because he's signed up for x amount of dates a year and gets paid quite a bit more for any appearances over that limit, they did the exact same thing with him, foley, and I believe rvd also last year. Now at the same time, I'm in no way justifying his actions, but let's face it, hes 62 or however old, I'm sure he's always been this way to an extent, it's just getting out there more. Also, if he was never asked to go out in front of the audience like he claimed, than really he's not the one at fault. Again, I personally would have done things differently, but I'm also not one of the biggest names to ever step foot in a wrestling ring, that should entitle him to certain benefits like showing up late.

 

[A.T.Rowl]

TNA is in the midst of a major re-alignment. Immortal is going to finally grow to be very strong (daniels will turn, anderson allready did)...BUT, Hogan is going to turn face...thus, you can see that all the heat of Flair right now is a work to build him as the big heel. Trust me, the heat is a work.