Has WWE ever done a successful big angle?

[closet_fan]

For me the last good angle was HBK against Jericho. It was perfect. It was slow and drawn out, but kept fans into it. And by the time the match happened, you wanted HBK to beat the living hell out of Jericho for everything he did during the angle.

That's the problem with a lot of angles these days. They're rushed. Not all of them, but a lot of them stop almost as fast as they start. I don't know if it's because the WWE thinks fans just aren't capable of soaking in something longer than a couple months. Or if fans force the angle to be over because they get bored too easily with it, thus forcing creative to come up with a really crappy ending.

 

[daddyJ_t]

Macho Man Randy Savage vs Jake The Snake Roberts

- Damien Bites Randy while trapped in the ropes
- Python in 1 of Randy's / Elizebeth's wedding Presants
- Jake slapping Elizebeth across the face
- Randy elimates Jake from the 1992 Royal Rumble

This fued lasted for about a year. It ended when The Undertaker came to the rescue of Randy and Liz. Jake was about to ambush them backstage.

Undertaker's first Wrestlemania (1-0) vs Jake The Snake Roberts. WM8

im sorry dude but i couldnt read anymore with out correcting your lack of knowledge of this fued that was not a python or damian. that was a king cobra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbv54NTqEmo

point number 2, no way a python could fit in that size of box(at least the ones that jake carried. start at 4:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g6bpr8dwz4

and as far as i know unless time and history has been rewound. jimmy snukas loss at wm 7 came before jakes loss to undertaker at wm 8 and also damian was killed by earthquake long before the fued with randy savage so even if it was a python(which it wasnt) it wouldnt have been damian, it would have been lucifer.

now as for the thread in general.... wwf/e has pulled off alot of great angles most of which are listed, but one of the biggest was andre winning the title and selling it to ted bibiase and it eventually being vacated. therefore letting andre win the big one and getting the title off hogan without making him look week and setting up the tourny crowing a new champ.

 

[Radical]

The whole point of this thread was to get the opinion of wrestling fans of all ages and experiences.

It wasn't to suggest that nothing happened prior to the Attitude Era but I just wasn't watching at that time so I don't have a good understanding of it.

It's interesting to hear what people view as successful angles in all the years the WWE has been around.

What my experience has been is post Attitude Era, that big angles have a lot of holes and maybe the end result is a great match but the storyline as a whole wouldn't exactly win any "Screenwriters" awards.

The storylines in WWE tend to lean towards the style of a "B" Hollywood Movie where you have to overlook some things in order to enjoy the premise and action and maybe you get a few nuggets of great dialogue.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

When there was competition, they seemed far more able to make big angles pay off. Probably because flops would have been detrimental to their survival. Since the buyout - the audience of one principle has come more to the fore? who says an angle fails? Us? The viewers? Or Vince?

More recently, the Shield has been very well executed, and on the whole the Nexus was until their break up. They never got things 100% right, but there was enough to cover the cracks. Today the cracks are far more visible, and with IWC pointing them out it's not easy to make an angle pay off.The biggest thing the best past angles had was some element of surprise or shock, which has also been reduced to almost impossible to make work.

Everything till WM4 worked pretty much as intended, it built WWE and more importantly a wide cast of characters. While Hogan/Andre was the headline, every other match had rounded characters and a storyline based around a "big" angle of some kind. Around that time though wrestlers started messing up the works, Honky Tonk refused to job to Savage, Duggan and Sheik got busted and Hogan's ego began to affect what was onscreen.

WM4 was a classic example where a big angle didn't pay off in the way it needed to, the tournament was good, Savage's win was tainted by Hogan having to be involved in it - whoever won that night should have done so without Hogan being even there, he and Andre should not have even been in the tourney - if they're not it's a better bracket and Rude and Jake could also have gone through and played better parts in it. It didn't ruin WM4 - but it could have been better if Andre and Hogan had had a separate retirement match.

 

[ECW Sandman]

Another big angle was The Rockers Break up angle that helped Shawn Michaels singles career with out that angle of the break up and HBK super kicking and throwing Marty Jannetty threw the barber shop window who knows what and were HBK would have been and gone.

 

[teampunk]

batista turning on hhh was pretty big. it started before survivers series and slowly developed with batista winning the royal rumble and challenging hhh for the title.

the cena vs rock angle has been huge. maybe not to the iwc, but for the wwe in general it is really saving their asses at a time when pro wrestling in general isn't as big as it used to be.

 

[H33LTurn]

What ruins angles in the wrestling business is that they run on for a very extended period of time. Vince looking to capitalize on something has the tendency to not notice when something has run its course or needs to be altered. The Summer of Punk was a great example. First they got Triple H and Kevin Nash involved without knowing if Nash was cleared to wrestle, which led of course to a match between Triple H and CM Punk that no one wanted to see. Then they turn him heel even though he was the most over face in the company, topping Cena merch sales and what not. To top it all off they cant find a credible person for him to drop it to, so by the time his match with Ryback comes around the only other alternative to dropping the belt to a green Ryback is for him to hold onto it. He loses to The Rock in the shittiest way possible, and then they forget to give him a spot in the WM main event, AGAIN. Hes stuck in a rivalry WWE is rushing and will most certainly lose at WM, thats the second match we already know the outcome to for WM 29 (The Rock might also be dropping the belt to film Hercules).

Nexus was the result of WWE giving the members nothing to go on after the stable disbanded. Wade should've won the WWE title during Nexus' height. Otunga and McGuilicutty formed the most uninteresting tag team ever, and Justin Gabriel didnt win any midcard titles despite having more in ring talent than the majority of the midcard.

So as things wind down in these angles WWE management completely struggles with ways of keeping it alive instead of letting it die or taking a big risk (putting the belt on Ryback or Wade).