Goldust wants match with Cody at Wrestlemania 28

[hbkfromccs]

This would be awesome! it's much more than a simple brother vs. brother match... obviously it has the VKM-liked "personal" issue there as they're brothers but didn't grow up together, Dusty neglected Goldust and groomed Cody etc... but what I find most interesting about this is the fact that both of them are booked as bizarre figures, as well as the fact that if you've looked closely you have seen Cody use some of his brother's move set. Have Goldust bring some of his 90's-attitude REAL bizarreness (as much as PG can allow) and let loose a real psychological storyline here between two brothers that are just a bit over the cuckoo's nest. I'd love to see this happen at WM!

 

[irishwarrior]

God those promos would be creepy.
I would like to see the feud anyway, just not at 'Mania and with Dusty Rhodes at the guest ref

 

[BigRedPunk]

It could be a decent feud and have some decent build up but I honestly don't think Goldust has that much star power at all to the general audience and another big thing is that I think Cody deserves a much better caliber match at W28

 

[bjarvis]

I posted this on the main page, but I'll post it again under the forum topic.

I really think Cody needs to be in the lower World Title match, the World Heavyweight Title, at WrestleMania. Though I think it should have been against Orton however, they have pumped that avenue recently.

I'm not against a Goldust-Rhodes match at all. Rhodes and Ziggler are my two favourite superstars right now and if the WWE is planning their matches for WrestleMania months ahead, then that is a great thing. WWE brings back Goldust at the Royal Rumble. He always gets a great pop. Cody kicks him out during the rumble. Then the following SmackDown! Cody goes on about how Goldust has disgraced his family, etc. The WWE really pump this feud, so its not lower class (as might be the case with Goldust). Goldust puts his career on the line (no title involved, Cody is above that status by now). Dusty gets caught between both men and is made as the special enforcer. Cody wins, and then moves up to World Title status post-WrestleMania.

The only problem I have here is there is going to be a lot of potential retirements come WrestleMania 28. The Rock, Steve Austin (if he does have a match, as is strongly rumoured), Goldust, Undertaker, etc. Maybe Goldust should not have a retirement status on his match.

 

[BSILENT84]

good post.....i think if he came back as dustin instead of goldust it would be better, but then again he's more charismatic when he's goldust so i don't know what wwe would do at that point......it would definately be a good match...Dustin could put his bro over even more...I'd make it a falls count everywhere street brawl with a great story leading into wrestlemania and have Dusty be referee......

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I guess I'm in the minority on this one as I've little real desire to see this feud happen. Why? I guess one reason is that it just seems so incredibly lopsided to me.

Cody Rhodes is one of the brightest rising stars the WWE has seen in a long time. He's young, he's in shape, he's charismatic, he's got the goods in the ring and he's consistently improved himself in every relevant area since his split with Legacy. Goldust or Dustin Rhodes or whatever, hasn't been relevant since the mid 90s. He's mostly been relegated to Superstars or NXT where he's typically put over other guys and, last I heard, Vince has had him coming up with stuff for the Divas.

I know Goldust is in good shape overall. He can still go well inside the ring and that's all well and good. But Cody Rhodes has been feuding with Randy Orton for the past while. While Orton has come out on the winning side of the feud, as he should since he's a former 9 time World Champion & Cody is a mid-card champ at this point, Rhodes has looked like a star and someone to really, really watch. Going from Randy Orton, one of the biggest stars of the past decade, to Goldust, a solidified mid-carder who hasn't been at all relevant in 15 years, would be a step down for Cody Rhodes. A feud with Goldust does absolutely nothing for Cody Rhodes except potentially making him look bad when it's all said and done.

 

[bxbigshow]

I'll put it like this:

Wrestlemainia has not been good to the I-C Title in the last few years.
WWE (Non)Creative usually brainfarts when it comes to the midcard around WM time.

**If by Royal Rumble WWE (Non)Creative has not come up with a decent idea for Cody and/or the I-C Title....this is the easiest and best option for them.**

Someone laid out a good Rumble - Mainia scenario previously. Only I'd have Goldust take out Cody at the Raw before E.Chamber. Placing him out of the Chamber match and at the same time giving another high mid-card/low main event guy the spot and elevating him a bit. (kills a 2nd bird and makes the feud more "business" personal, cost him a title/shot)

But if they have solid plans for Cody Rhodes going into R.Rumble and through 'Mainia then WWE can put this off for later next year when the mid-card gets stale.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

I like this, in fact they can do the old "it wasn't me gimmick" to get more mileage out of it... Goldust gets beat but Dustin comes back for the "blow off" match at Mania... denying the whole time he was ever Goldust, so he never retired.

 

[ryan86]

Can we just be honest; The marketplace would buy Cody Rohdes. Atleast 2 or 3 hundred thousand new fans would come into the mix just for Cody. Along with his tripple A tallent status, in and out of the ring, The kid is a stud and would be a great main-stream representative for the company.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

I would definitely like to see this match if they build it up nicely. I'd like to see some sort of Cody being disgusted with Dustin for being Goldie and they really push that and get Dusty involved and if at all possible Marlena. This could be a HUGE match up for Mania if done right. If it's just cody vs goldie with no mention of anything else I can't see it being that entertaining. It's got to have that personal aspect to it as well.

 

[Yesiamaduck]

If this is the match WWE gives Cody at WM, he should let his contract expire and go to TNA.
Cody Is the wrestler with the most potential and upside the WWE has right now. NOTE: I said potential.
Cody has a solid base that the WWE is ignoring. They should be pushing him to the very top of the upper-mid card every week, right under world heavyweight championship status, ie: Chris jericoh 2000.

If anyone would benifit the most by a match with SCSA at WM, it would be Cody. Foul mouth redneck vs clean cut pretty boy. They should start the program in early Febuary and let it biuld throgh WM.

Give Cody the win and solidify him as a legit name brand heel. Then work him in a series of top tier fueds through August. Give him a WWE championship match at Summer Slam, let him lose, then win the championship in a rematch in september. Solidify him with a 6 month reign carrying him through WM 29 in the Main event.

Gold Dust..... PLEASE

To be honest with you I think Goldust Vs Rhodes would draw better then any match you could possibly of put Rhodes in imho. Why would he want to go to TNA? He's got a future in the WWE, you're having a go saying this will hinder his progress but surely a move to TNA would hinder it more.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

If this is the match WWE gives Cody at WM, he should let his contract expire and go to TNA.
Cody Is the wrestler with the most potential and upside the WWE has right now. NOTE: I said potential.
Cody has a solid base that the WWE is ignoring. They should be pushing him to the very top of the upper-mid card every week, right under world heavyweight championship status, ie: Chris jericoh 2000.

If anyone would benifit the most by a match with SCSA at WM, it would be Cody. Foul mouth redneck vs clean cut pretty boy. They should start the program in early Febuary and let it biuld throgh WM.

Give Cody the win and solidify him as a legit name brand heel. Then work him in a series of top tier fueds through August. Give him a WWE championship match at Summer Slam, let him lose, then win the championship in a rematch in september. Solidify him with a 6 month reign carrying him through WM 29 in the Main event.

Gold Dust..... PLEASE

Can we just be honest; The marketplace would buy Cody Rohdes. Atleast 2 or 3 hundred thousand new fans would come into the mix just for Cody. Along with his tripple A tallent status, in and out of the ring, The kid is a stud and would be a great main-stream representative for the company.

I am not a mark and my knollege of the businiss and its history is very extensive. if you want to have a state of the business debate and be able to introduce your own financle facts, i can do that with the best.

you see what seperates a mark from an intelligent veiwer is an all facts related context. Historical prespective, financle prespective, and a good sence on business vs emotion are my streanths when making judgment. you should read atleast 10-15 of my post before you jump to such erronious conclusions about me.

the Cody going to TNA thing was a scarcastic statment voicing my disagreement with a Cody VS Gold Dust WM match "just cuz it's his Brother" argument. That might fly for a Royal Rumble match, but WM is the biggest stage and i dare you to name a faster rising upper mid carder than Cody.

Cody's WM match should break him through the glass ceiling, not Give his brother one last "payday". Cody is a part of the WWE's future and I was basing my comments on that.

Knollege? Think you mean "knowledge."

Also I read a couple more of your posts, albeit after my initial red repping, but I digress. You see, you may base your views from a "financle" standpoint, you probably mean financial there, but that kind of makes my comments even more valid.

You don't have to worry about WWE's finances and what they'll make money off. YOU also don't know what's good for business when it is yet to happen yet. #TeamGoldie, the hash tag Goldust used on Twitter when he made his wish trended worldwide. Although a mass majority of those on Twitter are sheep, there are more people for it than against it and according to you it's basically bad for business.

If you knew what was good for business you ought to be getting a job within the creative department of the company, but you won't, because you have no clue what actually is good for business and from a financial perspective, makes money.

Also, Dolph Ziggler is rising much faster. You showed up like yesterday, how about taking some time going through old threads where people rave about how good Ziggler is and about how he's the next big thing within WWE. Then compare the amount for Cody and Dolph obviously wins. Go to WrestleClique forums, same pattern there.

Mark's are people who show bias towards someone they like. They don't base their views off facts they base their views off hypothetical insinuations, a bit like you have here. Your avatar is Cody Rhodes, your custom title is Cody Rhodes - dude, you're a mark for Cody Rhodes and you've entered a thread and posted a poor view, deal with it. Goldust vs. Cody Rhodes won't draw? Cody should be main eventing? Stop being delusional, the fact you fail to realize that Cody Rhodes would get props for being the main person in the feud and that it could put him over shows your mass lack of "knollege."

This is a reply to both this guys stupid posts; I'm sure he made more but I don't care to read, and a PM he sent me because I red repped him for posting an asinine view. What he do? Blocked me from replying. Yeah, bad move.

Next time you want a "debate" might want to let me reply. Next time you want to use "facts" about "financle" matters due to your excessive "knollage", stop raving on about business matters that you clearly have no idea about.

And by the way, welcome to WrestleZone forums, enjoy your stay.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

If this is the match WWE gives Cody at WM, he should let his contract expire and go to TNA.
Cody Is the wrestler with the most potential and upside the WWE has right now. NOTE: I said potential.
Cody has a solid base that the WWE is ignoring. They should be pushing him to the very top of the upper-mid card every week, right under world heavyweight championship status, ie: Chris jericoh 2000.

If anyone would benifit the most by a match with SCSA at WM, it would be Cody. Foul mouth redneck vs clean cut pretty boy. They should start the program in early Febuary and let it biuld throgh WM.

Give Cody the win and solidify him as a legit name brand heel. Then work him in a series of top tier fueds through August. Give him a WWE championship match at Summer Slam, let him lose, then win the championship in a rematch in september. Solidify him with a 6 month reign carrying him through WM 29 in the Main event.

Gold Dust..... PLEASE

Can we just be honest; The marketplace would buy Cody Rohdes. Atleast 2 or 3 hundred thousand new fans would come into the mix just for Cody. Along with his tripple A tallent status, in and out of the ring, The kid is a stud and would be a great main-stream representative for the company.

Received by this douche: I am not a mark and my knollege of the businiss and its history is very extensive. if you want to have a state of the business debate and be able to introduce your own financle facts, i can do that with the best.

you see what seperates a mark from an intelligent veiwer is an all facts related context. Historical prespective, financle prespective, and a good sence on business vs emotion are my streanths when making judgment. you should read atleast 10-15 of my post before you jump to such erronious conclusions about me.

the Cody going to TNA thing was a scarcastic statment voicing my disagreement with a Cody VS Gold Dust WM match "just cuz it's his Brother" argument. That might fly for a Royal Rumble match, but WM is the biggest stage and i dare you to name a faster rising upper mid carder than Cody.

Cody's WM match should break him through the glass ceiling, not Give his brother one last "payday". Cody is a part of the WWE's future and I was basing my comments on that.

Knollege? Think you mean "knowledge."

Also I read a couple more of your posts, albeit after my initial red repping, but I digress. You see, you may base your views from a "financle" standpoint, you probably mean financial there, but that kind of makes my comments even more valid.

You don't have to worry about WWE's finances and what they'll make money off. YOU also don't know what's good for business when it is yet to happen yet. #TeamGoldie, the hash tag Goldust used on Twitter when he made his wish trended worldwide. Although a mass majority of those on Twitter are sheep, there are more people for it than against it and according to you it's basically bad for business.

If you knew what was good for business you ought to be getting a job within the creative department of the company, but you won't, because you have no clue what actually is good for business and from a financial perspective, makes money.

Also, Dolph Ziggler is rising much faster. You showed up like yesterday, how about taking some time going through old threads where people rave about how good Ziggler is and about how he's the next big thing within WWE. Then compare the amount for Cody and Dolph obviously wins. Go to WrestleClique forums, same pattern there.

Mark's are people who show bias towards someone they like. They don't base their views off facts they base their views off hypothetical insinuations, a bit like you have here. Your avatar is Cody Rhodes, your custom title is Cody Rhodes - dude, you're a mark for Cody Rhodes and you've entered a thread and posted a poor view, deal with it. Goldust vs. Cody Rhodes won't draw? Cody should be main eventing? Stop being delusional, the fact you fail to realize that Cody Rhodes would get props for being the main person in the feud and that it could put him over shows your mass lack of "knollege."

This is a reply to both this guys stupid posts; I'm sure he made more but I don't care to read, and a PM he sent me because I red repped him for posting an asinine view. What he do? Blocked me from replying. Yeah, bad move.

Next time you want a "debate" might want to let me reply. Next time you want to use "facts" about "financle" matters due to your excessive "knollage", stop raving on about business matters that you clearly have no idea about.

And by the way, welcome to WrestleZone forums, enjoy your stay.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

If this is the match WWE gives Cody at WM, he should let his contract expire and go to TNA.
Cody Is the wrestler with the most potential and upside the WWE has right now. NOTE: I said potential.
Cody has a solid base that the WWE is ignoring. They should be pushing him to the very top of the upper-mid card every week, right under world heavyweight championship status, ie: Chris jericoh 2000.

If anyone would benifit the most by a match with SCSA at WM, it would be Cody. Foul mouth redneck vs clean cut pretty boy. They should start the program in early Febuary and let it biuld throgh WM.

Give Cody the win and solidify him as a legit name brand heel. Then work him in a series of top tier fueds through August. Give him a WWE championship match at Summer Slam, let him lose, then win the championship in a rematch in september. Solidify him with a 6 month reign carrying him through WM 29 in the Main event.

Gold Dust..... PLEASE

Can we just be honest; The marketplace would buy Cody Rohdes. Atleast 2 or 3 hundred thousand new fans would come into the mix just for Cody. Along with his tripple A tallent status, in and out of the ring, The kid is a stud and would be a great main-stream representative for the company.

Received by this douche: I am not a mark and my knollege of the businiss and its history is very extensive. if you want to have a state of the business debate and be able to introduce your own financle facts, i can do that with the best.

you see what seperates a mark from an intelligent veiwer is an all facts related context. Historical prespective, financle prespective, and a good sence on business vs emotion are my streanths when making judgment. you should read atleast 10-15 of my post before you jump to such erronious conclusions about me.

the Cody going to TNA thing was a scarcastic statment voicing my disagreement with a Cody VS Gold Dust WM match "just cuz it's his Brother" argument. That might fly for a Royal Rumble match, but WM is the biggest stage and i dare you to name a faster rising upper mid carder than Cody.

Cody's WM match should break him through the glass ceiling, not Give his brother one last "payday". Cody is a part of the WWE's future and I was basing my comments on that.

Knollege? Think you mean "knowledge."

Also I read a couple more of your posts, albeit after my initial red repping, but I digress. You see, you may base your views from a "financle" standpoint, you probably mean financial there, but that kind of makes my comments even more valid.

You don't have to worry about WWE's finances and what they'll make money off. YOU also don't know what's good for business when it is yet to happen yet. #TeamGoldie, the hash tag Goldust used on Twitter when he made his wish trended worldwide. Although a mass majority of those on Twitter are sheep, there are more people for it than against it and according to you it's basically bad for business.

If you knew what was good for business you ought to be getting a job within the creative department of the company, but you won't, because you have no clue what actually is good for business and from a financial perspective, makes money.

Also, Dolph Ziggler is rising much faster. You showed up like yesterday, how about taking some time going through old threads where people rave about how good Ziggler is and about how he's the next big thing within WWE. Then compare the amount for Cody and Dolph obviously wins. Go to WrestleClique forums, same pattern there.

Mark's are people who show bias towards someone they like. They don't base their views off facts they base their views off hypothetical insinuations, a bit like you have here. Your avatar is Cody Rhodes, your custom title is Cody Rhodes - dude, you're a mark for Cody Rhodes and you've entered a thread and posted a poor view, deal with it. Goldust vs. Cody Rhodes won't draw? Cody should be main eventing? Stop being delusional, the fact you fail to realize that Cody Rhodes would get props for being the main person in the feud and that it could put him over shows your mass lack of "knollege."

This is a reply to both this guys stupid posts; I'm sure he made more but I don't care to read, and a PM he sent me because I red repped him for posting an asinine view. What he do? Blocked me from replying. Yeah, bad move.

Next time you want a "debate" might want to let me reply. Next time you want to use "facts" about "financle" matters due to your excessive "knollage", stop raving on about business matters that you clearly have no idea about.

And by the way, welcome to WrestleZone forums, enjoy your stay.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

If this is the match WWE gives Cody at WM, he should let his contract expire and go to TNA.
Cody Is the wrestler with the most potential and upside the WWE has right now. NOTE: I said potential.
Cody has a solid base that the WWE is ignoring. They should be pushing him to the very top of the upper-mid card every week, right under world heavyweight championship status, ie: Chris jericoh 2000.

If anyone would benifit the most by a match with SCSA at WM, it would be Cody. Foul mouth redneck vs clean cut pretty boy. They should start the program in early Febuary and let it biuld throgh WM.

Give Cody the win and solidify him as a legit name brand heel. Then work him in a series of top tier fueds through August. Give him a WWE championship match at Summer Slam, let him lose, then win the championship in a rematch in september. Solidify him with a 6 month reign carrying him through WM 29 in the Main event.

Gold Dust..... PLEASE

Can we just be honest; The marketplace would buy Cody Rohdes. Atleast 2 or 3 hundred thousand new fans would come into the mix just for Cody. Along with his tripple A tallent status, in and out of the ring, The kid is a stud and would be a great main-stream representative for the company.

Received by this douche: I am not a mark and my knollege of the businiss and its history is very extensive. if you want to have a state of the business debate and be able to introduce your own financle facts, i can do that with the best.

you see what seperates a mark from an intelligent veiwer is an all facts related context. Historical prespective, financle prespective, and a good sence on business vs emotion are my streanths when making judgment. you should read atleast 10-15 of my post before you jump to such erronious conclusions about me.

the Cody going to TNA thing was a scarcastic statment voicing my disagreement with a Cody VS Gold Dust WM match "just cuz it's his Brother" argument. That might fly for a Royal Rumble match, but WM is the biggest stage and i dare you to name a faster rising upper mid carder than Cody.

Cody's WM match should break him through the glass ceiling, not Give his brother one last "payday". Cody is a part of the WWE's future and I was basing my comments on that.

Knollege? Think you mean "knowledge."

Also I read a couple more of your posts, albeit after my initial red repping, but I digress. You see, you may base your views from a "financle" standpoint, you probably mean financial there, but that kind of makes my comments even more valid.

You don't have to worry about WWE's finances and what they'll make money off. YOU also don't know what's good for business when it is yet to happen yet. #TeamGoldie, the hash tag Goldust used on Twitter when he made his wish trended worldwide. Although a mass majority of those on Twitter are sheep, there are more people for it than against it and according to you it's basically bad for business.

If you knew what was good for business you ought to be getting a job within the creative department of the company, but you won't, because you have no clue what actually is good for business and from a financial perspective, makes money.

Also, Dolph Ziggler is rising much faster. You showed up like yesterday, how about taking some time going through old threads where people rave about how good Ziggler is and about how he's the next big thing within WWE. Then compare the amount for Cody and Dolph obviously wins. Go to WrestleClique forums, same pattern there.

Mark's are people who show bias towards someone they like. They don't base their views off facts they base their views off hypothetical insinuations, a bit like you have here. Your avatar is Cody Rhodes, your custom title is Cody Rhodes - dude, you're a mark for Cody Rhodes and you've entered a thread and posted a poor view, deal with it. Goldust vs. Cody Rhodes won't draw? Cody should be main eventing? Stop being delusional, the fact you fail to realize that Cody Rhodes would get props for being the main person in the feud and that it could put him over shows your mass lack of "knollege."

This is a reply to both this guys stupid posts; I'm sure he made more but I don't care to read, and a PM he sent me because I red repped him for posting an asinine view. What he do? Blocked me from replying. Yeah, bad move.

Next time you want a "debate" might want to let me reply. Next time you want to use "facts" about "financle" matters due to your excessive "knollage", stop raving on about business matters that you clearly have no idea about.

And by the way, welcome to WrestleZone forums, enjoy your stay.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

If this is the match WWE gives Cody at WM, he should let his contract expire and go to TNA.
Cody Is the wrestler with the most potential and upside the WWE has right now. NOTE: I said potential.
Cody has a solid base that the WWE is ignoring. They should be pushing him to the very top of the upper-mid card every week, right under world heavyweight championship status, ie: Chris jericoh 2000.

If anyone would benifit the most by a match with SCSA at WM, it would be Cody. Foul mouth redneck vs clean cut pretty boy. They should start the program in early Febuary and let it biuld throgh WM.

Give Cody the win and solidify him as a legit name brand heel. Then work him in a series of top tier fueds through August. Give him a WWE championship match at Summer Slam, let him lose, then win the championship in a rematch in september. Solidify him with a 6 month reign carrying him through WM 29 in the Main event.

Gold Dust..... PLEASE

Can we just be honest; The marketplace would buy Cody Rohdes. Atleast 2 or 3 hundred thousand new fans would come into the mix just for Cody. Along with his tripple A tallent status, in and out of the ring, The kid is a stud and would be a great main-stream representative for the company.

Received via PM by this douche: I am not a mark and my knollege of the businiss and its history is very extensive. if you want to have a state of the business debate and be able to introduce your own financle facts, i can do that with the best.

you see what seperates a mark from an intelligent veiwer is an all facts related context. Historical prespective, financle prespective, and a good sence on business vs emotion are my streanths when making judgment. you should read atleast 10-15 of my post before you jump to such erronious conclusions about me.

the Cody going to TNA thing was a scarcastic statment voicing my disagreement with a Cody VS Gold Dust WM match "just cuz it's his Brother" argument. That might fly for a Royal Rumble match, but WM is the biggest stage and i dare you to name a faster rising upper mid carder than Cody.

Cody's WM match should break him through the glass ceiling, not Give his brother one last "payday". Cody is a part of the WWE's future and I was basing my comments on that.

Knollege? Think you mean "knowledge."

Also I read a couple more of your posts, albeit after my initial red repping, but I digress. You see, you may base your views from a "financle" standpoint, you probably mean financial there, but that kind of makes my comments even more valid.

You don't have to worry about WWE's finances and what they'll make money off. YOU also don't know what's good for business when it is yet to happen yet. #TeamGoldie, the hash tag Goldust used on Twitter when he made his wish trended worldwide. Although a mass majority of those on Twitter are sheep, there are more people for it than against it and according to you it's basically bad for business.

If you knew what was good for business you ought to be getting a job within the creative department of the company, but you won't, because you have no clue what actually is good for business and from a financial perspective, makes money.

Also, Dolph Ziggler is rising much faster. You showed up like yesterday, how about taking some time going through old threads where people rave about how good Ziggler is and about how he's the next big thing within WWE. Then compare the amount for Cody and Dolph obviously wins. Go to WrestleClique forums, same pattern there.

Mark's are people who show bias towards someone they like. They don't base their views off facts they base their views off hypothetical insinuations, a bit like you have here. Your avatar is Cody Rhodes, your custom title is Cody Rhodes - dude, you're a mark for Cody Rhodes and you've entered a thread and posted a poor view, deal with it. Goldust vs. Cody Rhodes won't draw? Cody should be main eventing? Stop being delusional, the fact you fail to realize that Cody Rhodes would get props for being the main person in the feud and that it could put him over shows your mass lack of "knollege."

This is a reply to both this guys stupid posts; I'm sure he made more but I don't care to read, and a PM he sent me because I red repped him for posting an asinine view. What he do? Blocked me from replying. Yeah, bad move.

Next time you want a "debate" might want to let me reply. Next time you want to use "facts" about "financle" matters due to your excessive "knollage", stop raving on about business matters that you clearly have no idea about.

And by the way, welcome to WrestleZone forums, enjoy your stay.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Actually i did not know I blocked you from sending a PM back to me. Im open for debate and love it. I will fix that era as it was unintentional.

And I might make a few spelling mistakes, I did not include that in my streangths... But I think you pointing that out is the last refuge for somone without their own argument. It's the oldes game in politics, when you have nothing to go own by yourself, then attack and character assasinate somone else.

I am very astute in economics and it was my minor at UT Austin (major: Political Science). I have been a wrestling fan since 1996 at the age of 10, and after 15 years of being a loyal fan, I feel I have quite a good prespective.

However, over the last 11 years my main interest in wrestling has been on the financial side. Yes even at 14, I was disecting ratings, PPV buy rates, Attendance figures, and every financial statement I could get my hands on.

Now at the age of 25 and a BA degree in Poli Sci and Economics in hand, Im fully capable of any debate on finance.

I don't care.

Do you work for the WWE? Are you in the accountancy department? Are you on the creative team? I have no problem with you studying their earnings on the corporate website, I do it myself, but it has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand.

Cody Rhodes is a good wrestler, he has improved vastly etc, but the thing is, he isn't as good as you're making him out to be. Give him Stone Cold Steve Austin? That is the first time I've heard anyone even suggest a Rhodes vs. Stone Cold match, I've seen threads for Rhodes vs. Mick Foley before and Rhodes vs. Goldust previous the one which contains the crap you spewed in your posts, but why would WWE waste someone as popular as Stone Cold on someone like Cody Rhodes when they can place Stone Cold with CM Punk and make twice as much money in a feud that'd make a lot more sense, and allow Rhodes to feud with his brother which people obviously want to see looking at Twitter and even this thread right here.

A feud isn't created based on what WWE will earn off of it. They do it for ratings; hell I'll use your own logic against you. You stick a segment up with Cody Rhodes and Stone Cold It'd draw, but it wouldn't draw half of what a Stone Cold/Punk segment would, that isn't hypothethical either, that's common knowledge. Don't believe me, go find the breakdown for the RAW where Steve and Punk interacted. Would Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust pull in viewers? Again, Goldust got something trending within hours, he didn't have TV to plea his case he simply had his followers and the Internet. That is called drawing interest. Interest equals viewers, viewers equals ratings and hopefully ratings can equal buys for a PPV, that the company want to make money off of.

Stop focusing on what things earn, it holds in very few debates/topics and it definitely doesn't in this one. Start a thread and ask the posters have they ever turned off their televisions when WWE is on because it isn't making money, if anymore than one asinine idiot says yes asides yourself I'll ask the admin to ban me from the site. Because as we've seen in countless ratings and buyrates threads; an example being the MITB one, people don't care what the thing earned in buyrates they care about the entertainment value the event had.

Once again. Just stop. And by the way, I made fun of your spelling because it was just a back-up on my opinion of you. Don't list your B.A or whatever you have, that shit goes out the window here. I'm a Journalist, you think I go around posting it in every thread? This is the first time I've posted it since I joined these forums.

Get a clue.

 

[ryan86]

First of all, it would schock you to know the extent of my passion for politics and economics. To call me a liar is only a defence mechanism to shutt down an argument over an area you dont feel comfortable with.

And the simple fact that I have conveyed that Cody-GoldDust would be of no significant impact to a budding star Vs Cody-Foley or Cody-HHH, and you are jumping all over that as some kind of outragous assecment stating my own ignorance.... thats beyond me.

Either you guys just really dislike Cody or you are complely and utterly unable to back up your own statements without shutting down debate with words like "liar" and "idiot", or calling somone a "mark".

 

[The Dragon Saga]

First of all, it would schock you to know the extent of my passion for politics and economics. To call me a liar is only a defence mechanism to shutt down an argument over an area you dont feel comfortable with.

And the simple fact that I have conveyed that Cody-GoldDust would be of no significant impact to a budding star Vs Cody-Foley or Cody-HHH, and you are jumping all over that as some kind of outragous assecment stating my own ignorance.... thats beyond me.

Either you guys just really dislike Cody or you are complely and utterly unable to back up your own statements without shutting down debate with words like "liar" and "idiot", or calling somone a "mark".

Your logic makes you an idiot, that's why. You didn't even comment to a single thing I said either, which once again shows how correct I am. Because to be fair, you have no intelligent reply. Best thing you could do now is apologize, admit you were wrong and go onwards, hopefully having a new perspective on professional wrestling and how you asses it. Instead of venturing into, "Don't do that, it won't make money!!"

And by the way, again, people want to watch and be entertained. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust would be entertaining because of the fact one is a psychotic kid whose came on leaps and bounds, has the look, has the swagger and the other is a dude covered in facepaint with a twitch and homosexual tendencies. Will it make a bomb? You never know, will be entertaining, according to the vast majority of this thread hell yeah!

Also, once again, I don't "dislike" Cody Rhodes. You don't study going into debates do you? You never debate in school? I did. Never lost.

I originally disliked Cody Rhodes when he started the whole grotesque angle. Thought it was stupid, thought he was stupid and that people were overrating his abilities, but then for some reason during his spat with Danielson, I gained respect for the guy and began to like him. To add to that, he brought back my favorite version of the IC Championship and his feud with Orton in my own opinion was good and entertaining.

This is what needed to happen. He couldn't wear the mask forever and when he did lose it he'd have to begin a new persona. He was already showing signs of a psychopath to begin with, the laugh isn't new anyway, and in the grand scheme of things he continued to remove the mask anyway and we could see he wasn't grotesque, the idea that we thought was he amused he was mentally grotesque but again that can only work for so long. So from the ashes of grotesque Cody Rhodes rises this new version.

Personally I like it. Like him more now than I have before, his small promo as he was walking to the ring in the side; which was retro and awesome by the way, was good. If he can get into this character like he did his last there is no reason why he can't be successful. Definitely someone whose came on a lot to become a contender in the future for the big titles.

Taken from a thread which I posted in two days ago. See, once again, I just think; no, I know, you're an idiot. That is not debatable my friend.

 

[Dagger Dias]

This could be a good match and the build has loads of potential. They are brothers in real life so it would be obvious to bring that up and even get their dad Dusty involved. Cody can put the Intercontinental Championship on the line too if he is still holding it at the time. The only thing that can potentially ruin this would be Goldust winning because it would be a big moment for Cody who is on his way to the upper card. Goldust's best days are behind him. He should put over his brother in this last match if it happens and then leave.

 

[ryan86]

I am concerned with the financial side of WWE because I love the business so much. I consider every part of my understanding of the business to make judgments on what mtaches I think would help the WWE Most. And it just so happens that those are the matches i would like to see... not too far of a streach for you is it?

and those who have no interest in Looking at the WWE as a business causes a failure to understand what it best on the creative side.

If your only interest is entertainment, then by definition that makes somone a mark.

you see, what drives a smart fan is all the facts before making judgment on what they support.

And if you want to change the dynamics of the debate by bringing in new equations like CM Punk, give me a chance to respond before claiming im clueless.

CM Punk is a made man who does not need a "put over" match with SCSA.

Cody is on the edge of becoming legit and would need that match. It would just make more sence. He in all likely-hood won't get it, I Know.

 

[Peoples_Champ]

I don't think it should happen. There are too many factors that are against it happening. First, we have to assume that Cody will still be champ at WM. Obviously the match can happen without the title, but since one of the stipulations is title v. career we have to assume this.

Second assumption, along the same lines, nobody else would have an IC title shot at WM. This would be the most disappointing part of the story - Vince tends to use WM as a way to get all the boys onto the show, even if it means crappy segments. I would much rather see Goldust in a crappy segment with Cody at WM than having a full out match, and a title match at that.

Third assumption, the casual fan cares about Goldust or will buy the brotherly-rivalry angle. IWC knows all about it, but what about the fans that never saw the Goldust build. Goldust was great back in the day because of the vignettes and his solo promos. Also kissing Ahmed Johnson. But all that's been forgotten. How can Goldust build himself up to become relevant?

Fourth assumption, Goldust can still work a match. Its been a year since he was in a match and although he could work off some ring rust in developmental, it would take awhile for a 42 year old wrestler to shake the ring rust.

Fifth assumption, would a Goldust-Cody match sell? Especially considering its an IC title match, it would be one of the leading events on the card. I'm sure the writers could pull some tricks out of the Bret-Owen angle (older brother Dustin trying to make things right, younger heel brother Cody not caring, being a pompous menace - Cody wins match, does face turn by hugging his brother), but as intriguing as the angle could be, I just dont think people would pay money to see this.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

I am concerned with the financial side of WWE because I love the business so much. I consider every part of my understanding of the business to make judgments on what mtaches I think would help the WWE Most. And it just so happens that those are the matches i would like to see... not too far of a streach for you is it?

and those who have no interest in Looking at the WWE as a business causes a failure to understand what it best on the creative side.

If your only interest is entertainment, then by definition that makes somone a mark.

you see, what drives a smart fan is all the facts before making judgment on what they support.

And if you want to change the dynamics of the debate by bringing in new equations like CM Punk, give me a chance to respond before claiming im clueless.

CM Punk is a made man who does not need a "put over" match with SCSA.

Cody is on the edge of becoming legit and would need that match. It would just make more sence. He in all likely-hood won't get it but it, I Know.

By definition I'm a mark because I want to be entertained. You just made yourself again look like a dumbass you know that? I'm a mark for entertainment, Jesus Christ who doesn't like to be entertained. Maybe you don't, probably because you're too busy studying WWE's quarter earnings, maybe even sending Vince McMahon a list of ways to improve the WWE and the product. I wonder what he does with that? Throw it in the thrash? Wipe his ass with it maybe, because once again, you are clueless.

What you fail to understand is I looked at things from your point of view two posts ago and I was still correct because it is so easy to comprehend. Someone has even interjected and said I have decimated which at this point is a loose term everything you've mentioned because you hold no argument and you're throwing anything you can find at me, by speaking on your B.A and how you love economics and whatever else. This isn't eHarmony, I don't want to know your interests. Your the dude that sends me PM's saying how "this rivalry has just began," and in a failing attempt tries to use anything he can to make himself look strong in a debate he is basically invisible in.

I brought up CM Punk two posts ago and you reply a post later. You're away with the faries altogether.

You're right, CM Punk is a made man, but in your logic we should do what makes money. What makes more money, Punk and Austin or Rhodes and Austin. Yeah, safe to say we know the answer. What will bring better ratings. Again this is all hypotethical but common knowledge knows it would be the guy whose basically the second biggest face in the company versus the second biggest and the main face of the Attitude Era.

And what will the fans want more? Austin vs. Punk. So, you have Cody Rhodes. You have his brother. Near opposites. One has a high level of popularity and the other is showing great potential but just isn't there yet. So what do you do? You allow him to take his own brother out of the business at Wrestlemania because for someone of Cody Rhodes' stature he'd be doing well to even get that.

It still gets him over. It would still get him a feud going into Mania. It'll still get him on the card and people from the past who'll contemplate purchasing the event for The Rock would remember who Goldust is so it gets him that little bit more noteriety.

Once again, you have no argument, this isn't a debate, this is rape.

 

[ryan86]

Ok, you dont decide what gets posted here ok. If I chose to be civil and not go down the road of talks of sexual assault, I am sure im ok to debate in a respectfull way.

You have taken alot i have said out of context. I am well aware of prudent business practice Vs short term money making giggs.

Cody needs a match that will solidify him as a legit main eventer and if that steps on your sacred ground of a fued with GoldDust than so-beit.

Vinced is correct when he states that fans do not know what they want. It take a complete understanding of all related facts to make a call. Your entertainment is a result, not a descision.

Considering that CM Punk is already a made man and Cody is trying to brek through, who would it be smarter to place SCSA in a match with? Cody or Punk? Investment in turning out multiple legit main eventers is the goal. It is the only way WWE will begin to define a new era. Long term thinking does not allways coincide with your immediate entetainment.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Ok, you dont deside what gets posted here ok. If I chose to be civil and not go down the road of talks of sexual assault, I am sure im ok to debate in a respectfull way.

You have taken alot i have said out of context. I am well aware of prudent business practice Vs short term money making giggs.

Cody needs a match that will solidify him as a legit main eventer and if that steps on your sacred ground of a fued with GoldDust than so-beit.

Vinced is correct when he states that fans do not know hat they want. It take a complete understanding of all related facts to make a call. Your entertainment is a result, not a descision.

Considering that CM Punk is already a made man and Cody is trying to brek through, who would it be smarter to place SCSA in a match with? Cody or Punk? Investment in turning out multiple legit main eventers is the goal. It is the only way WWE will begin to define a new era. Long term thinking does not allways coincide with your immediate entetainment.

Idiotic post number seven.

Once again, for the fourth time you have ignored all but one of my points and have instead shown yet again to be clutching at straws. A second person has interjected and has sided with me but of course you'll ignore that because you have a B.A in idiocracy don't you?

You see, yet again you've backed up my point on you being an idiot. I've looked at it from your side, the money side, the side that's all about the buyrates and the cash that politician enthusiasts like yourself crave and have still decimated; again, in the words of another poster in this thread every point you've made even though some are so irrelevant and invalid.

If WWE brought Stone Cold Steve Austin back for one more match, everyone knows It'd be with Punk because even Steve himself has stated It'd be Punk. And there are rising stars ahead of Rhodes, Ziggler trumps him in every field. Rhodes would gain more from a match with Goldust, actually read the comments in the thread and stop being so blind and one dimensional.

The name is still "Sports Entertainment" my friend. You need to learn this because everything you think about the way in-which WWE should/does operate, is irrelevant. Again, this makes you clueless. I await your idiotic reply.