Goldberg dominated WCW for over a year with his undefeated streak. I remember the night the streak ended at Starcade to Kevin Nash due to interference from Scott Hall using the tazer gun on Goldberg. At the time, I was kinda pissed how it ended, probably more so because I enjoyed the streak, but I knew it had to end sometime. Is anyone satisfied with the way the streak ended in that manner? Would you have chosen a different opponent for him to go down to like a Sting, Hogan, or DDP? Or would you have just kept him undefeated?
Goldberg
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I think the streak needed to end when it did because it was getting a bit stale with Goldberg steamrolling through competition every week, yet admittedly there was something intriguing about it as you would wonder every time he competed 'is tonight the night it ends?'.
But overall I would say it had to come to an end at some point and at least it happened at WCW's then premier event and at the end of the day he lost to a 'star' in the form of Kevin Nash...I think what annoys people the most is the screwy finish to that match with the Scott Hall interference and the tazer, I suppose though you could turn it around and say Goldberg could only be beaten by outside interference which in a way still made him look dominant.
But overall I would say it had to come to an end at some point and at least it happened at WCW's then premier event and at the end of the day he lost to a 'star' in the form of Kevin Nash...I think what annoys people the most is the screwy finish to that match with the Scott Hall interference and the tazer, I suppose though you could turn it around and say Goldberg could only be beaten by outside interference which in a way still made him look dominant.
The streak had to come to an end at some point. I think it needed to end because it was starting to get old watching him destroy everyone WCW week after week. If I had to choose someone different to beat Goldberg I would have to go with Hogan. Hogan beating Goldberg at WCW's number one ppv of the year would've been remeberd in infamy more because it would've been Hogan beating WCW's hottest star, and like him or not the man was one hell of heel.
LokiCobain
Getting Noticed By Management
They should've continued the streak, because it would have established Goldberg even more as one of the greats. He didn't have to "steamroll" every opponent, but as the competition got better, he should've just had longer and harder fought matches. Obviously WCW couldn't see the future, but having Goldberg be a type of Bruno Sammartino would have been great for him. There are a lot of complaints today about how there aren't any more champions for longer than a couple of months at a time, and having Goldberg remain champion for a year or two, or even undefeated for a year or two, only to get "injured" and forced to vacate, so he can keep the undefeated-ness under his belt, while allowing for a new champion. He was much more than Tatanka (2 year undefeated streak...) and if the streak kept going, and they were able to figure out a way to keep him champion for a long period of time and lose it with losing, it would've been great for Goldberg and WCW.
Doomsday Device
Pre-Show Stalwart
Well the Goldberg loss played out very well in Starrcade 98. Goldberg had been dominant for over a year. And had achieved what no wrestler ever did before, to defeat Hogan for the main belt without ever being pinned.
Around that Starrcade Hall and Nash had some previous problems storyline wise and Hall had to "prove" Nash that he was on his side. So what better way than to assist in Nash's victory.
But right after that loss Goldberg never became as dominant as he was before.
I really would have liked for Goldberg to put another year in WWE instead of just one.
Around that Starrcade Hall and Nash had some previous problems storyline wise and Hall had to "prove" Nash that he was on his side. So what better way than to assist in Nash's victory.
But right after that loss Goldberg never became as dominant as he was before.
I really would have liked for Goldberg to put another year in WWE instead of just one.
yoshi_doce2006
Getting Noticed By Management
When Goldberg was in the WWE he showed how overrated he was in WCW when he was forced to have a long match. I am glad that the streak ended because when a guy is put on that platform they had better stay there for at least three years. After Goldberg lost to Nash he was never as dominant, he was still a star but he wasn't the monster. Then in WWE he was bad. One bad match after another. He had a horrid match vs The Rock and an even worse match against Brock Lesner.
The end of the streak equaled the end of the legend that was Goldberg. Thank you Kevin Nash for using your creative control clause to rid us of Goldberg's streak before it became Hall of Fame worthy.
The end of the streak equaled the end of the legend that was Goldberg. Thank you Kevin Nash for using your creative control clause to rid us of Goldberg's streak before it became Hall of Fame worthy.
Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
Maybe if WCW hadn't made him steamroll over everyone like LokiCobain mentioned, I might have been ok with seeing the streak continue. However, week after week, Goldberg was this juggernaut that completely devestated everyone he was in the ring with.
To me, it made WCW's roster look weak and it set Goldberg up for the inevitable backlash that was to follow. Goldberg was a big and strong guy, but he was limited in the ring, hadn't paid his dues and was wiping the floor with everyone he faced. While some loved it, I saw the whole thing as becoming stale rather quickly. I'd flip over to Nitro and see what was going on and Goldberg would be coming out to the ring and then I flipped it back over to Raw.
I disagree with how the streak ended, since WCW had made such a big deal about it, they should've put Goldberg in there with a skilled competitor, someone that could carry him and make both of them look good, and have some sort of back and forth epic. Sting would've been a good choice for that. Since they decided to end it, they should've done it with a little class.
However, I agree with yoshi that Goldberg was a vastly overrated talent. You put him outside of squash matches with really good workers, and his limitations always became evident.
To me, it made WCW's roster look weak and it set Goldberg up for the inevitable backlash that was to follow. Goldberg was a big and strong guy, but he was limited in the ring, hadn't paid his dues and was wiping the floor with everyone he faced. While some loved it, I saw the whole thing as becoming stale rather quickly. I'd flip over to Nitro and see what was going on and Goldberg would be coming out to the ring and then I flipped it back over to Raw.
I disagree with how the streak ended, since WCW had made such a big deal about it, they should've put Goldberg in there with a skilled competitor, someone that could carry him and make both of them look good, and have some sort of back and forth epic. Sting would've been a good choice for that. Since they decided to end it, they should've done it with a little class.
However, I agree with yoshi that Goldberg was a vastly overrated talent. You put him outside of squash matches with really good workers, and his limitations always became evident.
TwistofRKO
The Legend Killer himself
Goldberg's streak was great for the WCW. I tend to believe more people liked it, at least the initial push of it as people tend to get bored of anything, than not. I think they should have kept the streak going a little longer, but of course it had to end at some point, and having him lose cheaply was the wrestling way of having a guy look strong even in defeat.
Was he a great technical wrestler? Of course not. Was he exciting? Yeah. He was big, had a great entrance, and had "the" look. To be honest, had it not been for Goldberg I probably wouldn't be watching wrestling today.
Was he a great technical wrestler? Of course not. Was he exciting? Yeah. He was big, had a great entrance, and had "the" look. To be honest, had it not been for Goldberg I probably wouldn't be watching wrestling today.
Spurs4life22
Dark Match Winner
I didnt really watch alot of wcw at the time so dont really have alot of knowledge about the product but i have seen some footage and done a bit of reading about it.
Was Flair stil with the company at the time? Maybe they could of had him out-smart Goldberg? Have him Busted open via Ref bump and Flair chair shot, and then have him bleeding furiously as Flair locked in a Figure of 4 leg lock and with nowhere to go Goldie passes out. Flair wins and Goldberg looks good. A bit like Bret Vs Austin.
Or maybe if he wasnt Sting could have took Flairs role. Maybe as a way of proving himself to the NWO or something like that.
As i say i dont have much storyline knowledge at the time and exactly who was doing what but i think both would of been good ideas.
Was Flair stil with the company at the time? Maybe they could of had him out-smart Goldberg? Have him Busted open via Ref bump and Flair chair shot, and then have him bleeding furiously as Flair locked in a Figure of 4 leg lock and with nowhere to go Goldie passes out. Flair wins and Goldberg looks good. A bit like Bret Vs Austin.
Or maybe if he wasnt Sting could have took Flairs role. Maybe as a way of proving himself to the NWO or something like that.
As i say i dont have much storyline knowledge at the time and exactly who was doing what but i think both would of been good ideas.
The streak shouldn't have lasted as long as it did. Goldberg was a joke as a wrestler. He had no stamina and couldn't carry a match if his life depended on it. When he went to the WWE and his was in that elimination chamber match and Triple H and evolution chained him to the cage and busted him open I loved every minute of it.
Doomsday Device
Pre-Show Stalwart
People have forgotten to mention here that around the time Nash beat Goldberg at Starrcade 98 Nash was starting to have hold of the creative control booking. So he started pulling some strings, and Nash must have thought "Hey, who better than myself to end Golderg's streak"
This is why active wrestlers shouldnt be in control of the booking, they'll push themselves to the moon.
This is why active wrestlers shouldnt be in control of the booking, they'll push themselves to the moon.
I might be in the minority but when WCW was on the air and Goldberg was around he was one of my favs. I remember watching the match between him and Hogan not knowing who would come out on top.
I do wish though they would put out a 2 disc dvd or even a 3 disc dvd showcasing all of Goldberg matches during the streak in wcw. For me at least I would buy that the day it came out, more then I would the rise and fall of WCW, I mean I looked at the match lineup for that and to me it looked semi poor, considering they only have one goldberg match on it and it wasn't even the one that I am sure most remember him vs Hogan for the belt.
Anyway I also can't wait to see Goldberg on whose smarter then a 5th grader this week or next. It's going to be great.
I do wish though they would put out a 2 disc dvd or even a 3 disc dvd showcasing all of Goldberg matches during the streak in wcw. For me at least I would buy that the day it came out, more then I would the rise and fall of WCW, I mean I looked at the match lineup for that and to me it looked semi poor, considering they only have one goldberg match on it and it wasn't even the one that I am sure most remember him vs Hogan for the belt.
Anyway I also can't wait to see Goldberg on whose smarter then a 5th grader this week or next. It's going to be great.
Wasim Perviz
Dark Match Winner
If anyone was going to beat Goldberg that night it should have been Ric Flair / Sting or Hulk Hogan but I do not feel Goldberg should have lost. He was still very over with the fans and was doing so well at that time. It was silly to make him lose when they did because he was a marketing machine for WCW.
Thriller Ant
Beep Bop Boop
The streak had to end, but I hate the way the last bit went. Goldberg could have been WCW's main hope to fend off the NWO, along with Sting. Instead, he was screwed by Nash and lost a ton of momentum. He either should have battled the NWO with Sting, or suffered a clean loss, not getting zapped with a taser then pinned.
Real Lucha Guy
Dark Match Winner
People seem to forget Nash was the second most popular guy in the company at the time. Flair was not as popular as Nash outside the Carolina's during that period. Having the second most popular guy who is 7'0" tall,300 pounds, cheating to beat Goldberg is more credible than an old wrestler who just return back to the business.
I LOVE GOLDBERG and the fans did as well. His act was not stale to the casual fans. Turning him heel was one of the top 5 worst moves WCW ever made(thanks Russo). He was the most popular wrestler in the company despite the boos(by smarks of course,Impact Zone type fans) people loved him and his merchandise still outsold everyone. He was the only true star at the time that could of main evented any WWE ppv in WCW. WCW blew it,turn him heel and never recover. Booker T had to take over as the top babyface. They went from Goldberg to Booker T,not quite the same.
I LOVE GOLDBERG and the fans did as well. His act was not stale to the casual fans. Turning him heel was one of the top 5 worst moves WCW ever made(thanks Russo). He was the most popular wrestler in the company despite the boos(by smarks of course,Impact Zone type fans) people loved him and his merchandise still outsold everyone. He was the only true star at the time that could of main evented any WWE ppv in WCW. WCW blew it,turn him heel and never recover. Booker T had to take over as the top babyface. They went from Goldberg to Booker T,not quite the same.
Wasim Perviz
Dark Match Winner
I feel the loss to Nash did take a lot away. I also feel Bill Goldberg was never the same following this. It was a big match for the PPV which worked. Goldberg worked with Nash at the following PPV to win so I can not understand why he lost.
