Man you just LOVE shitting on ROH and the indies, huh? Pretty funny considering how massively superior ROH's current product is to TNA's and has been for quite a long time. How the fuck was the MCMG-London Brawling promo an example of an ROH/indy promo? It wasn't, at all, if anything that was a glaring example of sports entertainment-style promo cutting, with jokes about dick size and all, this is the exact opposite of what you'd see on an ROH or indy show promo.
But it's good to see you're already judging this team's ability to cut a heel promo without ever actually having seen them do just that. That's really fair.
Not at all, I just understand that there a discernible difference between the two (indies and the "big" leagues), especially when it comes to the value of their performers as it pertains to style and execution. That's why certain guys can become indie superstars who are heralded and championed by anyone who watches their work, yet in the event they do make the big leagues, they dont' cut it, because often the walls of kayfabe aren't torn down there, which means that without a very strong personality and without the ability to connect with the audience in a way that
doesn't invite them to partake in the segment as though they actually know what's going on, they will undoubtedly fail.
Superiority is relative, but I'd love to hear how you think ROH is "superior" to TNA in any measurable way. Star power? TNA. Production? TNA. National potential? TNA.
If they cut a good heel promo, I promise you X, I'll rescind my statements, but until they do, they're still just as boring – this time as bad guys.
Again, that's about as sports-entertainment as a promo possibly gets without Gen Me busting out a firehose full of beer and shouting "Oh Hell Yeah!". It's also absolutely in no way, shape or form anyway similar to Gen Me's promos in PWG.
Any video available for me to compare?
I do watch Xplosion, though I usually skip the promos. But again, as I said before, if you give them a chance to cut a HEEL promo (AKA NOT the completely 100% babyface promos they've been cutting on Xplosion) you'll see they're quite talented at playing heels. Not only that but they can work a crowd greatly as heels as well, working in ancient Hogan-esque moves like back rakes after a springboard just to fuck with the smark crowd who despises Hogan and shits on TNA constantly, they work that PWG crowd as heels better than any heel tag team I've seen in the business today.
How about giving them a chance before just shitting on them because they're indy guys? Especially considering the absolutely atrocious face promos AJ Styles, your hero, used to cut on a routine basis before becoming a heel and cutting some quality heel promos.
1. If you skip through them, how is that any different than you blaming me for not watching their work in some federation somewhere that the majority of viewers would have a tough time accessing?
2. I never said I wouldn't give them a chance, just that I don't give a fuck about them being from Rancho Cucamonga, CA and Christian. Doesn't sell me on them in the slightest. That's like The Dudebusters coming out and telling me they like XBox and are from Williamstown, Pennsylvania. Good for you, now why the hell should I care about you? Because you supply us with generic information? Wow...
3. Styles is the #1 wrestler in the world (fact) – I find it hard to believe any aspect of his being is "atrocious" in any way whatsoever. He also has nothing to do with this discussion. Styles has/had main event talent since day one when I saw him in ROH – Gen. Me do not, at least not from what I can tell. They seem more like a run-of-the-mill indy tag team who are capable of putting on fantastically entertaining spot matches, but until they can tell a story and show me more personality than "We're Christian and are from California", I don't give a fuck.
If anything they're FAR more talented than, Ink Inc, and pretty much every other shit tag team TNA has like Orlando Jordan & Eric Young, the only team they aren't better than is MCMG and maybe Beer Money. How about, oh I don't know, giving them a chance to be heels before shitting on them?
I'd love to, X, honestly. I'll hear them out before I "shit on this" as you so appropriately put it. They need to sell me on why they are heels, though. Anyone can turn around and beat down their opponent and "turn heel". Stars can do so and make me care why afterward.