Game of Thrones

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Far and away the best show on television right now.

Sorry, not television, HBO, but you get the point.

I've never actually read these books (though I want to now...), but I've got to say that the cast on this series is well chosen.
 
Amazing show, I got suckered in when the girlfriend started watching it a few weeks back, and haven't been able to take my eyes off since. Everything about the show is badass, with more storylines than you can shake a stick out.

Good story, good writing, good acting, nice titties, action, drama, suspense, decapitations, dwarfs and Sean Bean. Everything about this show is awesome, and every episode leaves you wanting more and more, I pretty much love everything about this show.
 
I think the only complaint I have thus far is the excessive gore. Implied gore is just as effective, if not more so because it allows your imagination to do the work for you — see Se7en and Saw.

You don't have to actually see someone get sliced in half by razor wire to understand after the fact just how gory the sight of it would be.

Had the shot with Tyrion, for example, smashing the attackers face in with the shield point been shot from below his waist like that, and had the end of the shield simply continued to get bloodier and bloodier, I'm fairly certain we'd have gotten the point. Was it really necessary to see the shield tip smash his face in?

Or showing Jamie's dagger go through Ned's guard's eye, and watching his other eye twitch. Was that also really necessary? The scene would have been just as effective had you seen the blade come out the back of his skull like you did in a later shot.

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On a side note, I find it hard to believe that only you and I are watching this, SSC.
 
On a side note, I find it hard to believe that only you and I are watching this, SSC.

No way where the only fans of this show, the other fans will surely rise to the surface once they see this thread.

They definitely upped the gore factor this week, way more so than in previous weeks. The jousting scene from last nights show was shocking, after "The Mountain" (I think that's his name) gets knocked from his horse and starts raging, HOLY SHIT. The girlfriend was in shock for a good minute after that, it was brutal, but know doubt it had me on the edge of my seat.

From this point on I only see the show adding more gore, as they have seemingly been upping it at a steady pace.

They also introduced a couple new storylines last night, making it almost damn near impossible to keep up with everything that's going on without watching the shows multiple times. Last night we didn't even get a cut away scene to the knights Watch or the Dothraki.

Can't wait to see what happens next week after yet another cliff hanger ending.
 
I like the show. I haven't read the books. I'm pretty lousy at reading unless it's comic books. I like the cast, the storyline, I don't mind the gore and love the nudity. I was a little put off by the last episode. Seeing that kid (what is he 8 ?) still sucking his mother's tit, was a little disturbing. But I must say that is a nice looking tit that she has, especially being a woman of her age.

Anyhow, I love the show and look forward to watching it week in and week out. HBO really puts on some great shows. I think the gore and nudity should be expected considering it's HBO.
 
Man, was Viserys Targaryen's "crowning" brutal, or what?

Another fantastic episode tonight — never even occurred to me to question the fatherhood of Joffrey Baratheon. The shit is going to hit the fan when it's finally determined that Jamie is really his father.
 
I can't believe we've already gone through sixty percent of the season. It's absolutely flying by. Tyrion's confessions were cracking me up last night, the crown was an epic way to handle a death everyone knew was coming, Dany being more dragon than Viserys was not something I expected to see, and Ned getting on the scent of the royal incest undoubtedly spells trouble in the coming episodes. I have no idea how this can all be wrapped up in four episodes though. Part of me feels we're going to settle all business between the Starks and the Lannisters this year and next season we'll see a Dany led Dothraki invasion while the Stark boys' respective places in the family and the discontent of Theon Greyjoy take center stage. But that still doesn't answer questions regarding the impending "winter" and the coming of the White Walkers. A lot of balls juggling right now in an exciting, well-written epic. What a ride.

With this, Treme, and Boardwalk Empire, and coming off the fantastic final season of In Treatment, could HBO be any more awesome? This show, for me, is doing for the fantasy genre what The Wire did for the cop procedural, what The Sopranos did for the mafia, and what Deadwood did for the western.
 
Game of Thrones is on e of my favorite TV show, and i love to watch this show.This show is different from other TV shows that's why i love this show and never miss any episode of this show.
 
• Sansa has developed hatred for Joffrey and is likely to grow leaps and bounds as a character because of what her "prince" did and continues to do to her.

• Robb Stark has united the Northern kingdoms and their allegiance to him as the would-be King is sworn as they head to war with the Lannister's and the South.

• The Night's Watch are spilling out north of the wall to take on "whatever may come" in search of Benjin Stark.

• Jon Snow has solidified his allegiance to the wall.

• Tyrion Lannister is set to be appointed the Hand of the King in place of his own brother Jamie, the odds on favorite, if Tywin conquers the throne, warring against his own family, but still distrusts his own father, successfully planting a major seed of doubt to his allegiance to his own family and his true intentions there of.

• Jorah Mormont has sworn allegiance to Daenerys Stormborn, a character who's taken the largest strides in the show, by far, despite being offered a pardon by the King to return to his actual home land.

• Jamie Lannister has been captured and is likely to be used as bait to draw Tywin and his army into ambush.

• Arya is being taken north among boy slaves, including the Armorer's apprentice, who's likely to become a moderate player in the series, protecting her along the way (my guess).

• Khal Drogo is dead, and the Dothraki have left the side of Daenerys, and in the process three dragon babies were born.

I'd say this is about as good of a season finale as could be expected considering Ned was beheaded the episode prior.

I can't fuckin' wait for Spring 2012.
 
I just need to add here, I'm utterly shocked at the lack of fans/appreciation for this show on a forum like this. Pro-wrestling is one of the "nerdiest" outlets there is in terms of televised programming — how can any of you be turning your nose up to a show like this? Makes no sense to me.

Worse yet — it's HBO. Their success rate for original programming is through the roof. Yes, there's been garbage like Arli$$, Big Love and Extras (among others), but for the most part this is still the same house that gave you Oz, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, The Wire, Band of Brothers, Deadwood and so many more.

I'm really disappointed with the activity, or lack there of, in this thread. Rep to all who watch it, though, assuming you chime in of course.
 
I live in the UK and only got word about the show a couple of weeks ago through one of my mates. I caught up to about episode 7 online in a matter of days and couldn't wait to see where the last three took us.

Truly gripping TV - well written, well acted and high production values; whats not to like? Cant wait for season 2, i'm even considering buying the books just to find out what happens. Great stuff.
 
My fiancé already bought me all four books for my birthday a few weeks back. I fully intend to have read through all four before Season 2 ever starts. I'm 250 pages into Game of Thrones now. They're about 700 pages a piece.

Well worth the read.
 
I’m already suffering from Game of Thrones withdrawal. In my opinion, this show as provided the best characters (Tyrion Lannister), shocks (Robert’s, Visery’s, and Eddard’s death) and soft core porn of the spring (I am obsessed with Daenerys Targaryen). I’ll admit that I found myself lost on a few occasions throughout the season, but overall it’s been one hell of an experience.

I have not read the books, not have read anything online, but I do have some predictions for next season (which I’m eagerly anticipating):

-Jon, Robb ,or Robert’s illegitimate son Gendry will fill the void left by Eddard as the show’s main protagonist. Joseph Dempsie, who plays Gendy, was one of the main characters of Britain’s Skins, and he’s pretty talented. Then again, it was a very different role.

-Someone will uncover accounts of Eddard’s investigation into Robert’s illegitimate sons and the Lannister family, spurring the imminent civil war

-The White Walkers will take the north with relative ease (due to the absence of Robb’s army), but Joffrey will refuse to address the issue

Oh, and a question, what happened Robert’s brother? And who was the man doing the Queen in the series finale?
 
I also want to buy the books because i just cant wait until next spring to figure out what happens. I think that the war will be a knock down drag out affair with the Starks coming out on top and overthrowing the Lannisters. However after all of that I do think that Dorthraki will cross the Sea and wreck shit towards the middle of next season. BTW the queen is hot as fuck and as weird as it might seem i was quite turned on when her brother was hitting that ass from the back in the first episode.
 
As my last few signatures might suggest, I am a big fan of the show. I have not read any of the books although I might read Game of Thrones soon. There are so many stand out characters -

Daenerys Targaryen: her evolution from scared little girl to the woman who may have the future of Westeros wrapped around her

Eddard Stark: an honourable man drowning in a fight without honour; a soldier caught in a politician's conflict

Robb Stark: a young man thrust into the limelight due to circumstances beyond his control who quickly proves himself; although I fear that he may also have his fathers defects

Jon Snow: a conflicted individual torn between loyalty to his family and he new brothers on the Wall; I think his true parentage has yet to be revealed as I do not think that he his Eddard's bastard at all...

I also have to agree with IDR regarding the series finale. It would have been quite easy for it to be anti-climactic with the shock execution of Eddard but it was full of excellent scenes - Daenerys and her dragons, the acclamation of the King in the North, Sansa about to kill Joffery but my favourite was not one of these and it leads me back to my favourite character as well.

The best scene was the war council of the Lannisters with Tyrion and Tywin going back and forth. Indeed, any time these two have shared a scene it has been incredible - the thinly veiled contempt of Tywin peeling back somewhat as he realises that it is Tyrion that is his successor as the Lannister master of realpolitik rather than Jamie or Cersei. I would imagine that this realisation, while off to a good start, might lead Tywin down a dark path, leaving Tyrion to become one of the more important characters in the series.

If Dinklage does not get some acting award recognition then there is no justice.

As for predictions for season 2, I do not like to make too many but if I had to make one, it would be that Joffery is a goner. He has made too many enemies too fast and proven to be too much of a cruel loose cannon to control adequately. Whether it be on the instigation of Tywin, Tyrion or even Cersei to replace him with his younger brother or at the hands of Sansa, Robb Stark, Stannis Baratheon or someone else, his day will come sooner rather than later.

[QUOTE="Stone Cold" John Hogan;3197597]Oh, and a question, what happened Robert’s brother?[/QUOTE]

Robert has two brothers - Renly, who tried to persuade Eddard to proclaim him king and Stannis who is the rightful king but has yet to appear. Renly has declared himself heir to the Iron Throne and is gathering his forces; although I think that Stannis, along with Robb and Jon Snow, will the man to fill some of void left by the deaths of Ned and Robert in season 2. He could also be the character with which to import an actor than can replace some of the lost star power with Sean Bean's exit.

[QUOTE="Stone Cold" John Hogan;3197597]And who was the man doing the Queen in the series finale?[/QUOTE]

Pretty certain that that was the young Lannister who Cersei persuaded Robert to have as his squire and who the King berated for his armour being too small for him. Not sure if his name was ever revealed but I think he is a cousin of Cersei, Jamie and Tyrion. He is probably responsible for Robert's death by getting him drink.
 
The boy fucking Cersei in the finale was Lancel Lannister, squire to King Robert Baratheon, who was directly responsible for his death. At the request of Cersei, he provided the King with a large dose of "strongwine" as Robert tracked a boar while hunting in the Kingswood.

The boar killed him, obviously.

Lannisters "keep it in the family".

[QUOTE="Stone Cold" John Hogan;3219324]Just out of curiosity, to anyone that has read the novels, how closely does the series follow them?[/QUOTE]

Very closely. The differences are trivial. The only real grievance I've had is with smaller scenarios like the fact that Tyrion actually fights in the battle (and isn't knocked out with a hammer) and that Jamie never fights Eddard (like was shown in the show). Really minor details in the bigger picture.
 
I watched it; quite liked it. I had a few major problems though.

For one, the writing is not great, especially in the opening episodes. Now to a certain extent this is fair enough; with a franchise such as Game of Thrones the amount of lore that has to be imparted to the viewer in order for them to understand the show is crushing, and it is inevitable that the series will fall into exposition from time to time. That being said; there is such a thing as doing this well, and oftentimes Game of Thrones does not accomplish this. Frequently (specially as I said in the earlier episodes) you will find characters participating in a dialog that blatantly serves no function other than to educate the audience. Exposition should be woven into the narrative, and when it causes the narrative to grind to a halt it is a sign of poor writing.

The other sign of poor writing is how one dimensional many of the characters seem. This is particularly prevalent with the antagonists, none of whom seem able to complete a scene without acting like a transparently evil cuntsack to everybody they encounter. Jaime Lannister, Viserys Targaryen and Joffrey Baratheon are the most obvious examples of this, none of them displaying anything resembling a redeeming feature at any point during the show. The only character presented as a major antagonist who displays any level of depth is Cersei Baratheon, and she only becomes interesting after the writer decided to start shamelessly plagiarizing The Lion in Winter when it comes to her relationship with the king.

All of that could be overlooked, but the thing that really pissed me off about the franchise was the pathetic, childish attempt at maturity the show took. Every Single female character who appears on the screen appears to be engaged in a contest of "who can get their tits out the fastest". When there isn't a female lead on screen the show tends to randomly throw ****es at the viewer just so that the twelve year olds have something to jerk off over. It's like in the Sopranos where they would always stage scenes in that strip-club, with topless women permanently on display. However; whilst the Sopranos was doing it to make a point about the objectification of women, game of thrones is just doing it for the sake of objectifying women (I think the show believes it is being erotic, although how anybody not aged fifteen and under could find that erotic is beyond me), and as a result makes me feel shifty for viewing it.

The pretense at maturity isn't limited to the gratuitous tits. Characters constantly swear at one another in completely inappropriate situations for no other reason that maintaining the mature tone of dialog.
Then there's the gore; like tits and vulgarity, gore is fine when it's properly used, and GoT misses the mark by quite some way. The graphic violence isn't shocking, and it's not presented so as to make it appear horrific or to engender an emotional response from the audience, it is doing what horror movies do, and simply trying to present graphic violence as cool, once again feeding into the fifteen year old male demographic.

Like I said, I actually liked most of the show; but it's the more immature piece of television I've watched all year. Which is a shame, because underneath all of my bitching there's some really good television there. The characters may be shallow, but most of them are at least entertaining. The story is rich and complex. The world is well built and there is more than enough happening across all parts of it to keep you interested. The first season concluded with three major plot threads that have me legitimately interested to see where they go, whilst most shows struggle to maintain one.

I'll probably watch the next season and enjoy it.
I just with the show didn't have to constantly market itself towards the lowest possible denominator.
 
I would agree with some of your criticisms, Gelgarin.

The amount/timing of gore and swearing did not bother me at any stage but the "eroticism" just seems tacked on and on virtually no occasion does it seem to serve any real storyline purpose.

Somewhat linked to your suggestion that characters like Jamie and Joffery are not fleshed out, I found that there was a large amount of time handed over to characters like Eddard, Robert, Viserys and Drogo who do not survive the series.

Another slight criticism I would have is that there is very little concept of the passage of time, particularly in the early episodes. The travel distances between places Winterfell and King's Landing for example is one of the main problems with this and the true size and scale of Westeros suffers because of it, in spite of the excellent opening credits trying to give credence to its scale. This, I think, is a consequence of trying to fit so much into a season, which is again linked to the stunted nature of some of the characters.

However, despite all of this, I think the story and the settings more than make up for these drawbacks.
 
i no rite! theze riters only care bout dem tits LOL. i bet the sho was wrtieng by a buncth of dudesHA.

too much tits too much blud too much non curch speeking, tghink of the kids LOL.

i agred, wut R dey tryg to do, get dem rateings, LULZ

i reely want a gurl to do sum writeing, not liek there was COCK or nothin, HAHA but thur was cock, HAHA, remember!

i tink it wuld be beter wit less enterntment, MORE femmale rits, lewss tits, less bad riting, less dum charicters less sister fuckn HAHAHA.

i agre, sombudy shuld relly fite teh powerz!
 
Well i ended up buying the first couple of books and i'm through the first and half way through the second; they make for gripping reading.

I'll just address a few of the criticisms in the thread by saying that the books themselves do have an awful lot of sex, ****ing, multiple incest storylines and more than just a bit of gore. Nearly every female character is linked to sex in form, as are most male characters too for that matter. Bearing in mind some of the key themes are incest and family lineage set against the background of war it would be difficult for any writers to stay true to the books without lots of gore, nudity and sexual references, compared to the books the TV show is pretty sparse in actuality i thought.

Just so that the wrong conception isn't given, and nobody thinks that the books are all about sex; there are several characters who mark a distinct break with that trend such as the Nights Watch who take no wives and Stannis who is renown for his reserved lifestyle.

As for characters; Joffrey really doesnt have any redeeming features so thats a fair portrayal of the character, what i feel most was lacking from the series is that it portrayed the Starks as the only 'good' characters when in reality all the factions are varying shades of grey, not wholly bad or wholly good. For example; the Lannisters may be the perceived enemy, but characters such as Tyrion and Tywin (the father) carry a certain respect and its not completely clear if they are evil, though Cersei and Joffrey most certainly are. They aren't any different from the other factions, all of whom are fighting for self serving interests.

The biggest criticism i have of the show is that a lot of the characters are too old on screen, for example; Robb and Jon are only 14, Daenerys is 13, Renly only 21 and Ser Loras is 16. I understand it might be controversial to have pregnant 13 year olds and 14 year old boys fighting in the front line of wars but that is what really adds gravity to their storylines; these are children trying to grow up too fast with the weight and responsibilities of nations on their shoulders.

Tyrion is perfectly done though.
 
I watched it and thought "Is there anything better than this tv series?" Then I read the books.

The series was very good, as someone who doesnt watch much television I was pretty gripped, they handled the politics and the intrigue very nicely, my only fault with it though was that all the exciting stuff was taken out, I dont know whether they were saving money for the CGI Dragons at the end but it was irritating. The tournament was stretched to 2 runnings over 2 episodes, when a five minute montage showing all the lesser but still quite important characters later on (Beric Dondarrion/Thoros of Myr) would have worked probable a lot better, showing Jaime getting eliminated by the Hound and having his helmet crushed onto his head would have been good for laughs, before coming up to what I suppose is the only really important part which would be the Hound vs the Mountain and Loras surrendering the tournament to the Hound as a result. I also spent the whole series waiting for the two major Stark-Lannister battles and both were taken out and only the aftermath was shown.

The stuff at the wall with Jon and across the sea with Danyreas (sp?) I cant have any complaints about, although if I am honest I find both to be far less interesting stories than the other goings on.

The characters were awesome as well, Tyrion Lannister and Littlefinger are two of the greatest creations I've ever seen and both are played superbly. George R.R Martin is quite fearless with what he does to his characters as well, so you can only expect bigger and better things as the series goes on.

I wont elaborate on what I think is going to happen next series as I am nearly on book 4 already, having started reading them 2 weeks ago, so I know whats going to happen, I'll leave you with this though. All through series 1 you'll recall that Stannis Baratheon is talked up by Tywin Lannister, Eddard Stark and others as being pretty badass, the guy doesnt dissapoint.
 
Holy shit, the best series I have seen in a while!

Finished watching the last 2 episodes this morning after a night of boozing and was actually cheering at the end. Shame about Drogo though :(

I think my favourite 3 characters this series were Arry the Orphan, Dinklage the Dwarf and Sam. All provided some decent comic relief to counter-balance all the seriousness and were just brilliant. Sam's line about wanting to be a wizard when he grew up had me laughing so much.

I think the only thing I was a bit disappointed with in some respects were some of the names, as there was a bit of an uneven mix of 'fantastical' type names (the hard to spell/remember kind) and then generic modern day names like Jon Snow, which is the name of a news presenter here in the UK. GoT Jon Snow could give him such a whupping though.

Did Lena Headey always look constipated to anyone else too? Episode 8 especially.

I cannot wait for the 2nd series to come out and think they left the 1st series at the perfect time; they built up the stories about those behind the Wall, Winter is coming, there are fucking DRAGONS!!, Robert is King, Arry and the bastard blacksmith boy are joining up with the Russian witches, shapeshifters and seers... oops, wrong Night/Nightswatch and Dinklage is Hand of the King!

Awesome, just awesome :D
 

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