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Via Armbar

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I have been looking for some local mma training facilities and have finally found some thaat I'd like to work with. One is Gracie Barra gym and I'd like to work on my bjj there. There other is ELITE MMA which is co owned by Bas Rutten and is one of the most elite training spots in the area. There's also Ken Rose Mauy Thai here which is a highly regarded school. i'll be training again after my surgery.

Does anyone practice any sort of martial art?
 
I have been looking for some local mma training facilities and have finally found some thaat I'd like to work with. One is Gracie Barra gym and I'd like to work on my bjj there. There other is ELITE MMA which is co owned by Bas Rutten and is one of the most elite training spots in the area. There's also Ken Rose Mauy Thai here which is a highly regarded school. i'll be training again after my surgery.

Does anyone practice any sort of martial art?

I'm really thinking about checking out Kenny and Keith Florian's gym in Boston. Only problem is that there are a lot of upfront costs involved from what I've heard. The other gym I've been looking at checking out, the one John Howard trains at, Wai-Kru, is somewhere around $120 a month.
 
It can definitely be finicially draining. I am okay as far as income goes right now so I can afford it as long as I'm wise with my money. It may get to the point when I decide I don't want to actually compete and it would become wastful. I haven't actually decided whether or not I'm going to fight, I'll need to see how my surgery goes first.
 
Armbar you would love Des Moines, Iowa. We have an MMA gym next to every McDonald's and there's a McShitload of McDonald's restaurants here. That's not even considering the other parts of the state. If you didn't know just a short drive from here is where the Militich Fighting System training facility is based as well in Davenport, and there is a major promotion here called MCC that holds fights pretty regularly, as well as a number of clubs where you can fight almost any day of the week. MMA is ridiculously huge here. You go to any gym in town your guaranteed to see some guys in there who are with some group who trains in MMA.


Does anyone practice any sort of martial art?

Boxing.

Unlike the cut throat amateur MMA circle here, the main Boxing outfit here can actually get you somewhere as they are the USA Boxing team division for this region, that's the group who go to the Olympics by the way, and they are closely affiliated with Golden Gloves of America and participate in their tournaments as well.
 
I practice Tai Chi, But it's just for fun. What I do really practice and I take it seriously is boxing, there's a gym like two block away from my house.
 
Armbar you would love Des Moines, Iowa. We have an MMA gym next to every McDonald's and there's a McShitload of McDonald's restaurants here. That's not even considering the other parts of the state. If you didn't know just a short drive from here is where the Militich Fighting System training facility is based as well in Davenport, and there is a major promotion here called MCC that holds fights pretty regularly, as well as a number of clubs where you can fight almost any day of the week. MMA is ridiculously huge here. You go to any gym in town your guaranteed to see some guys in there who are with some group who trains in MMA.




Boxing.

Unlike the cut throat amateur MMA circle here, the main Boxing outfit here can actually get you somewhere as they are the USA Boxing team division for this region, that's the group who go to the Olympics by the way, and they are closely affiliated with Golden Gloves of America and participate in their tournaments as well.

There's definitely no shortage of mma gyms here. California is huge bandwagon state. As soon as mma starting becoming popluar and meatheads started learning names like Liddell and GSP it was over. Now apparently everybody ''trains UFC'' which makes no fucking sense to begin with. So we have a couple gyms in pretty much every city but only a handful or less of actually good ones. That's why it took a while and some travel to go and meet with trainers and check out the facilities. I didn't want to waste a good chunk of money on shitty training.

There's a place about 30 minutes away from me that I really want to attend to work on my boxing. It's the same place that Fernando Vargas trained at and still teaches at on occasion I've heard. It's harder to find a good boxing academy, much more than finding a run of the mill mma gym.
 
As soon as mma starting becoming popluar and meatheads started learning names like Liddell and GSP it was over. Now apparently everybody ''trains UFC''

There's a place about 30 minutes away from me that I really want to attend to work on my boxing. It's the same place that Fernando Vargas trained at and still teaches at on occasion I've heard. It's harder to find a good boxing academy, much more than finding a run of the mill mma gym.


That first part basically embodies the larger base of mma fans I just can't stand, apparently you have had your interactions as well. Same story here, now every guy with a little athletic ability thinks their going to be in the UFC or something and that doing mma makes them some kind of bad ass.

You should go to that boxing gym and just stick with that. I can't explain to you how far ahead of the game you would be if you stuck with boxing. Especially if Fernando Vargas trains and teaches there, what a great teacher, and what a great environment, one that makes champions.. It is a lot harder to find a good boxing club too, here there is one particularly that is the most legit with the best trainers and so on, while as you mentioned you can always go to a run of the mill mma gym.
 
The thing is, I would want to fight in mma, not boxing. So I woudn't want to limit myself by training only at Vargas' gym, because I would still need to polish the other areas of my game. I couldn't spend that much time and money training at three different places. It's hard to even balance two, but there aren't any places aroud here that I can good really good training in multiple areas. I have the most experience in bjj and mauy thai, so I might swap one of those out for boxing.
 
For the record, I only train Jiu Jitsu so I can break people, not for any like, super kewl MMA stardom. I dont even watch the shit. So yea.

You trying to say I'm doing it to be kewl? Let's roll buddy. Roll as in jujitsu style. We aren't actually going anywhere.
 
I'm just saying, if you would just stick to training your body in Boxing for even 1 year, when you went into MMA you would be miles ahead of the others physically and mentally. Think of if you trained in Boxing for that year and went to an mma gym and inexplicably we much better in the stand up game than were most of your colleagues, then as you are learning the ground game you have something to fall back on, superior hand skills. Your not just a fish in a barrel. Just some friendly advice that's all. I'm such a big proponent of Boxing, I know it's sick, lol. I just love it man!!! I think that once you got into the boxing, mma would be a fading memory as you learned and began to understand how unnecessary all that other stuff was. I would just give it a try, you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain.
 
That was really just a 'boxing is better than mma' post and you know it Game Rage. :)

All of ''those things'' that you claim are unecessary are only not needed in boxing obviously. I want to be a well rounded competitor, not just from a boxing aspect. No doubt though that strong boxing is an incredible tool to have in mma. Apparently I have a good frame for boxing as well. Naturally for me, my mauy thai is mre natural striking for me. I have good range with my knees and I'd like to use them. The problem with my boxing is my reach isn't what I'd like it to be.
 
Shotokan has always interested me. As far as it's practice goes in mma, only Machida has been able to made it work to it's potential. Well him and Sub Zero.
 
That was really just a 'boxing is better than mma' post and you know it Game Rage. :)


At least it was subtle, lol. Seriously though it wasn't just that, I really do believe in what I was saying about it. I've converted plenty of people from being MMA fans to Boxing junkies by showing them first hand through one on one training what I am talking about. If I could actually show you it would be a whole new ball game. I need a good video camera and a volunteer, lol.



All of ''those things'' that you claim are unecessary are only not needed in boxing obviously. I want to be a well rounded competitor, not just from a boxing aspect. No doubt though that strong boxing is an incredible tool to have in mma.


Well I'm not trying to turn this into another MMA vs Boxing thread, I don't have the energy for that again right now. I can't explain in words the truth of my words though, you just have to learn and find out.



Apparently I have a good frame for boxing as well. Naturally for me, my mauy thai is mre natural striking for me. I have good range with my knees and I'd like to use them. The problem with my boxing is my reach isn't what I'd like it to be.


Something you said peaked my interest and eluded to another point I'd like to make. You were saying "I have good range with my knees and I'd like to use them." Why? Because you figure using them gives you an advantage or widens your range of ability. If you were confident and well trained enough with your hands you wouldn't be worried about using kicks or knees. I think that is a large part of the allure of mma, people thinking they will be better able to fight or defend themselves by being able to use a number of tactics because they are afraid of getting their asses kicked the traditional way which could be much worse. I'm not saying that is you, but I think that is most people. They figure "Well if all I can do is use my fists than I'm going to get my ass kicked because I'm not very good at that, so what I will do is learn all this other stuff to make up for that, and hopefully I will be ok after that." I maintain that if your good enough with your fists, you don't need anything else.


As for your reach issue, that is a very solvable problem that doesn't require learning mma. All you need to do is learn a style that aides that weakness, look at someone like Mike Tyson or Joe Frazier, neither of them had a very long reach, so to make up for that they developed styles that made up for it by using bobbing and weaving as well as solid in-fighting skills, accompanied by ferocious hooks off the jabs and body shots. It's all a science boxing. If you have a good frame for it, I would take your shot at that first and if you are good enough at it, then move to mma (just lookin' out bro)
 

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