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ROH is fine. They've got plenty of talent.
Not really. I don't think anyone would truly believe Finlay would never return to the WWE. This was clearly a case where the WWE made a move to let heat die, and then bring him back when the time was right. I'm sure that's what the WWE told Finlay, and I'm sure ROH knew it when they contracted him.That would be another loss for ROH. That list of names is starting to build up.
Not really. I don't think anyone would truly believe Finlay would never return to the WWE. This was clearly a case where the WWE made a move to let heat die, and then bring him back when the time was right. I'm sure that's what the WWE told Finlay, and I'm sure ROH knew it when they contracted him.
I'll be glad to see Finlay back in the WWE. Why was he suspended in the first place? I never heard about that.
Steen has a great gimmick and attitude, but he doesn't look like a wrestler let alone champion.
Ciampa blows.
Jay Lethal is the quintessential indy wrestler, but in a bad way.
I just don't see the wealth of talent. Finlay obviously isn't a significant or any loss to ROH, but to claim that they have tons of talent just isn't true anymore.
He didn't get fired because he did something unpatriotic.Great news, I always felt he was harshly treated, JBL escaped unscathed from punishment for a far more offensive gesture in Germany and the disrespecting the National Anthem quirk has been pulled ad nauseum since the 80s. Since his suspension 16 months ago, he hasn't ranted and raved - merely held his hands up and said I messed up and I'm sorry for causing genuine offense.
Any interview or report I've ever read on the Carrickfergus man has been more than complimentary and, as a fellow countryman, I'm glad to see the wee man back were he belongs.
CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Samoa Joe, Dusty Rhodes -- I could go on and on, but none of those guys look like conventional champions either.
I'll never understand why people say this.
He's really not, as he has proven he can have success in a major promotion (TNA).
Yes, it's quite true. Kevin Steen, WGTT, the Briscoes, the Bucks, Davey Richards, Michael Elgin, Roderick Strong, Eddie Edwards, Adam Cole, Kyle O'Reilly, TJ Perkins, Jimmy Jacobs, Jay Lethal, and many more quality performers are still on the roster. There's a lot of talent there, most of them are fairly young too. ROH will be fine.
Do you actually watch ROH?
1. Everybody besides Dusty was at least in shape. Dusty How ever was 3-4 inches taller and weighed 80 lbs more then Steen. He was massive. That size made a difference. I never bought that guys need to be ripped, but Steen admits to not even trying. Besides I agreed that Steen is entertaining.
2. Ciampa gimmick is putting his hands over his head to form a diamond.
3. The fact that Lethal was on TNA doesn't make him talented.
Can he be entertaining? Occasionally
Is he another terrible gimmick of ripping off old gimmicks? Yes
His best days are in his past. And his days were never even that good.
4. Comparing any of the guys to the Briscoes and WGTT and it isn't even close.
You do realize he's only 27. He's not exactly trucking around on his zimmer.
1. Everybody besides Dusty was at least in shape. Dusty How ever was 3-4 inches taller and weighed 80 lbs more then Steen. He was massive. That size made a difference. I never bought that guys need to be ripped, but Steen admits to not even trying. Besides I agreed that Steen is entertaining.
2. Ciampa gimmick is putting his hands over his head to form a diamond.
3. The fact that Lethal was on TNA doesn't make him talented.
Can he be entertaining? Occasionally
Is he another terrible gimmick of ripping off old gimmicks? Yes
His best days are in his past. And his days were never even that good.
4. Comparing any of the guys to the Briscoes and WGTT and it isn't even close.
Everything but some of the ppv's. Not that I didn't want to watch them, streams are hard to find.
I'm surprised you're so adamantly shtting on the product. The weekly TV show has been really good, for a while now. We've seen a bunch of good matches from all comers -- Michael Elgin has been shining through as ROH's next star, in particular. ROH's talent pool is fairly full, but you're saying the exact opposite. You're lambasting Steen and Lethal for their looks, and Ciampa for his lack of a gimmick, but all those guys have been exceeding expectations, especially Steen (dude is the best thing going in wrestling today).
You know what Rhodes had which Steen possess? Natural athletic ability and excellent cardiovascular fitness. Steen played a lot of sports as a kid, he is of big frame yet can move better than a man half his size. Plus, when he wears a singlet he looks fine, the t-shirt and shorts combination makes him look different to everyone else, something people recognize him by.
Not even a fan of Ciampa, but you seem to have mixed him up with Diamond Dallas Page.
Well he had to do something right to be employed by them for six freakin' years!
That can be said about every wrestler.
Jay Lethal has spent more time of his career being Jay Lethal than he has Black Machismo. When the guy he was "ripping off" complimented and endorsed the "rip off" you can safely assume it was pretty good. Unless you want to state you know more about Macho Man's gimmick than Randy Savage himself?
Yeah, them six reigns as X-Division Champion mean nothing, right?
Go in-depth on this, I'm dying to hear your obscure, misinformed thoughts on what makes them better than legitimately every other wrestler on the roster.