Fan Safety At MLB Games

The Brain

King Of The Ring
After a couple unfortunate incidents this weekend there have been some talks about fan safety at MLB games. Both Friday in Detroit and Sunday in Chicago a fan was seriously injured by a foul ball. Foul balls have been going into the crowd for over a hundred years but only recently have we started seeing so many fan injuries. What used to be ultra rare is becoming all too common. Warnings are printed on each ticket and there are signs posted throughout the parks but clearly more needs to be done to protect the fans.

I was disappointed, though not surprised, the hear a lack of compassion from a lot of callers on sports talk radio shows today concerning this topic. There is a very simple proposal of extending the netting that protects the fans behind home plate further down the lines to protect more fans. It seems downright logical, right? However there are plenty of meatheads out there that have overreacted and are acting like this would ruin their experience at the park.

The most common argument I'm hearing against the nets is that fans should just pay attention to the game. There are a couple things wrong with this. The ball could be traveling off the bat at 100 miles per hour. Even if people were paying attention to literally every pitch it could be difficult for someone to get out of the way of something traveling so fast. These are just ordinary fans, not professional athletes. It's going to be dangerous if even I am paying attention. You would think if one goes to a baseball game they would want to pay attention to the action, but let's be honest. No one pays attention to every pitch. Pardon me for looking down to dip my pretzel in some cheese, or turn my head to have a conversation to the person next to me. Or even if I'm guilty of the biggest taboo of them all, forgive me for looking at my phone during the game. There's nothing quite like people criticizing others for looking at their phone so much by tweeting those criticisms from their own phones. My point is no matter how much someone may be into the game they are simply not going to be focused on every single pitch, and they shouldn't have to be.

People are complaining that extended netting will ruin their visibility but it has never been a problem for the fans behind the plate. Not to mention it will only affect a small percentage of fans anyway, the ones that need the protection. Fans in the upper deck or beyond the first several rows in the lower deck wouldn't be affected at all. The clear view would be ideal but I'll sacrifice it just a bit to know my family and I are safe.

Owners and stadium architects are always trying to do things for a more fan friendly experience. Back in the old cookie cutter stadium days the seats were so much further away from the action. Look at all space between the foul lines and the seats from older stadiums. These days the fans are right on top of the field. I think a little net is a small price to pay to get to sit closer than you ever could before, not to mention knowing you and your family are safe. Does a little kid have to be killed at a game before the obvious necessary change is made? The only real problem with this topic is that it even is a topic. Since the call in shows opened the discussion plenty of people have to argue against it simply because it's a change. If the owners just extended the nets without asking anybody or telling anybody about it nobody would have given it a second thought. Let's not make everything into an unnecessary debate. Just do the right thing and protect the fans. Attending a baseball game should be fun, not a risk.
 
I would definitely support the idea of extending the safety net down the first base and third base sides, all the way to the foul pole actually. No need to have a net by the home run wall, but definitely down both sides. Frankly, I can't see any reason not to. The best seats in any stadium, and the most expensive, are in the vicinity of home plate, which have a safety net in the area. Visibility is not negatively impacted whatsoever. So why would it be down the baselines? Sure, fans would miss out on the opportunity of catching foul balls, but that's a small price to pay for fan safety. Guys are getting bigger, stronger, faster, and balls (and occasionally bats) are flying into the stands harder and faster than ever. I saw a game a few weeks ago at Wrigley and there were several line drives hit into the stands which I can assure you, I would not have wanted to be in the path of. With the nature of baseball, no one is captivated by every moment, every second of every game, it's unrealistic to suggest otherwise. Even if you were looking, some of the balls and bats are going to hurt you even if you did see them coming. It's only a matter of time before some fan gets seriously injured, or even killed, by a foul ball line drive. Warnings and fine print aside, that's an unacceptable risk which is very easily rectified. And if it universally adopted in every stadium, case closed.
 
I don't watch Baseball as I live in England. If it makes the game safer and doesn't affect people viewing pleasure then it seems like a no-brainer to be totally honest.
 
I would support the fact that it's mostly due to fans not paying attention. Yes the ball does travel very fast, but if you're there at the game to watch it like you're supposed to you would see the ball coming towards your head and would react to defend yourself.

The incident I know of is at PNC Park, this was back in April or May I think, where a woman was struck by a ball through the net behind home plate. She was walking back to her seat with her back to the game. This is entirely her fault. One of my biggest pet peeves at ball parks is fans who get up during the play and walk around. Please wait between half innings to get up and move around.

I don't think there's any need to extend the nets. Because despite what you think that would affect the vision of the game from fans maybe not right at the nets, but in higher up seats. No the net behind home plate isn't bad, but extending it down to first base or third base would be bad and it would very much change how much I enjoy watching the game live at the stadium.

There is no need for them to increase fan safety at stadiums as far as foul balls or bats go. They warn the fans before the game. If fans are paying attention, they have enough time to react. There are some stadiums like Fenway with low walls that I think should be adjusted, but other than that I think fans just need to pay more attention.

So consider me one of those meatheads. I suppose next we'll just start handing out foam suits to everyone when they enter the ballpark. I think more of a safety concern at stadiums is security, preventing fights or preventing deadly shootings or stabbings. Keeping the weapons out and keeping it a good atmosphere.
 
Yes the ball does travel very fast, but if you're there at the game to watch it like you're supposed to you would see the ball coming towards your head and would react to defend yourself.

It depends. Years ago, I was at a Mets game at Shea Stadium, almost directly behind home plate, about 8 rows back. A foul ball came directly at our section; I got my hands up quickly enough but at the speed the ball was moving, I doubt I could have adequately protected myself. As it was, the ball hit the railing, altering it's flight path and smashing the little kid sitting next to me in the eye.

True, he wasn't watching the game, being too busy stuffing his face with every kind of food the ballpark offered, but after the ball hit the rail and had it's route skewed, I doubt he would have had time to take defensive action. He was screaming as security carried him off.

The batter (Brian McRae), the catcher and the umpire were looking directly at us, McRae with the saddest look on his face. I'd bet he was wishing the area behind home plate had netting.
 
MLB has discussed extending the netting multiple times over the past handful of years. Everytime it comes up at the winter meetings, the players union shuts it down for whatever reason. Players have even been interviewed about it, and even they agree that extending the netting should be extended. Why in the heck is their union shutting it down? Beats me.

They need to have the discussion again this year. Hopefully common sense prevails.
 
It depends. Years ago, I was at a Mets game at Shea Stadium, almost directly behind home plate, about 8 rows back. A foul ball came directly at our section; I got my hands up quickly enough but at the speed the ball was moving, I doubt I could have adequately protected myself. As it was, the ball hit the railing, altering it's flight path and smashing the little kid sitting next to me in the eye.

True, he wasn't watching the game, being too busy stuffing his face with every kind of food the ballpark offered, but after the ball hit the rail and had it's route skewed, I doubt he would have had time to take defensive action. He was screaming as security carried him off.

The batter (Brian McRae), the catcher and the umpire were looking directly at us, McRae with the saddest look on his face. I'd bet he was wishing the area behind home plate had netting.

Yeah that's the one thing that does make me contradict my own post, is kids and families. Because as much as half of me hates the fact that people don't go to ballgames just for the sole fact of watching and enjoying the game, the other half of me respects and understands why other people go to ball games. It's more than just the game, it's just the atmosphere and the environment. So most little kids aren't going to especially be paying attention to every pitch at every minute. You would think most of the time though they have a father there who is watching the game, and would probably be trying to get his hands there to try to catch the ball. But you can't always react fast enough.

So I understand that part. When I'm older and hopefully have a family, I'm going to take my kids to the ballpark. But I won't buy seats close enough to where the ball can actually get to us at a high speed. Mostly because...well I probably won't pay that much for the seats taking a family to a game can be expensive.

Still though, I stand by not wanting the stadiums to be changed drastically to prevent foul balls. Obviously I don't want people to be hurt, I'm not some sort of masochistic monster...at least not diagnosed. But I just don't think it's that serious enough of a situation where the stadiums have to make drastic changes. It really isn't doesn't happen as often as it's seemed. When you think about it, compared to other ballparks the Major League ones are safer than ever. There are way more baseball games that are being played every day than just the pros, and their stands have way less protection. But you don't even hear about anyone getting seriously hurt there.
 
Let's get one thing straight. It's not that simple. A baseball game is not, has never been, and will never be a 100% safe environment no matter how hard the league wants to try to make it. They can put all the netting up they want, (which them putting more netting up in like releasing censored porn) but foul balls and errant bat pieces will continue to go everywhere and anywhere they damn well please. At the end of the day, by going to a game, you're assuming the inherent risk that comes with baseballs flying around at high velocity
 
Let's get one thing straight. It's not that simple. A baseball game is not, has never been, and will never be a 100% safe environment no matter how hard the league wants to try to make it. They can put all the netting up they want, (which them putting more netting up in like releasing censored porn) but foul balls and errant bat pieces will continue to go everywhere and anywhere they damn well please. At the end of the day, by going to a game, you're assuming the inherent risk that comes with baseballs flying around at high velocity

Correct, but the inability to regulate danger to zero percent is not an acceptable excuse for failing to regulate dangers at all, or for failing to increase safety measures along the way.

The fact of the matter is, all major sports do and should be doing all they can to safeguard their fans in attendance.

I don't watch baseball, but I'd imagine that an increased netting line would do very little by means of "ruining" the experience of fans. I know this because I'm a hockey fan, nets were added behind the goals at both ends of the rink years ago to catch deflected pucks from going up into the stands after a 13-year old girl was killed in 2002.
 
I don't watch baseball, but I'd imagine that an increased netting line would do very little by means of "ruining" the experience of fans. I know this because I'm a hockey fan, nets were added behind the goals at both ends of the rink years ago to catch deflected pucks from going up into the stands after a 13-year old girl was killed in 2002.

Aaand unfortunately,as with everything in this world, that is probably what it will take before baseball changes their mind.
 
“They are ruining the game,” “It will change the viewing experience” or “If they aren’t paying attention it is on the fan” arguments are completely ridiculous. I think the opposition to enhancing safety procedures at the ball parks stems from much deeper rooted issues involving an old school mentality unacceptable of an every changing society.

Major League Baseball has been an evolving product for a while. The sport aspect of the league now shares the spotlight with overall entertainment value. Sporting events are social gatherings. It is a place where individuals congregate for a multitude of reasons. Major League Baseball realized this a long time ago and has made massive strides to attract a multitude of demographics. League wide they have implemented a variety of promotional nights, kid play areas, grommet food selections, full scale bar & dining areas, interactive scoreboard videos and even phone based interactive fan participation during the game. MLB themselves has installed various distractions from the game as a means to stay relevant. If they cannot address fan safety then it is a major shame on them.
 

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