Eric Bischoff's War Against the "10 Percenters"; Calls the IWC "Irrelevant"

[He's Phenomenal]

Agreed. But IF he knows then he LIED during the interview, which is my point.

I was under the impression that he said he has no involvement in TNAs finances, i.e he's an executive producer, but he knows that TNA is making a profit? If I got the wrong end of the stick, then sorry dude.

 

[Brian in Austin]

I was under the impression that he said he has no involvement in TNAs finances, i.e he's an executive producer, but he knows that TNA is making a profit? If I got the wrong end of the stick, then sorry dude.

He said he has no dealings in the "money end of the business." Now, he NEVER during this interview went any further into that subject, which leads me to believe he doesn't know. Furthermore, he went on to say that he has nothing to do with talent contracts either, meaning he wouldn't know how much they make. So clearly, he has no idea how much is being saved or spent. UNLESS, he lied!

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I was under the impression that he said he has no involvement in TNAs finances, i.e he's an executive producer, but he knows that TNA is making a profit? If I got the wrong end of the stick, then sorry dude.

Even if he's not involved in money matters, it doesn't stop him from hearing things about TNA's profit situation or being told that they're making money.

Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if he was lying either. What should he say? That they're losing money?

 

[Brian in Austin]

Even if he's not involved in money matters, it doesn't stop him from hearing things about TNA's profit situation or being told that they're making money.

Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if he was lying either. What should he say? That they're losing money?

Of course not, but he would have a vested interest in saying they were profitable if he knew one way or the other wouldn't he? Point is, he can't be trusted any more than anyone else in the business can, though he holds himself up as some sort of objective and trusted source of information.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Of course not, but he would have a vested interest in saying they were profitable if he knew one way or the other wouldn't he? Point is, he can't be trusted any more than anyone else in the business can, though he holds himself up as some sort of objective and trusted source of information.

Yes but not really. Even if he lied about one thing to put the company over instead of hurting it, he did tell the truth about something else, and it was plain obvious that he was being frank. So if you can't believe him because he lied about ONE thing, then you should believe him because he was honest about another thing, so this argument is pretty much obsolete.

In the end, we have to use our common sense and our brains when it comes to Bischoff's claims. He says they're making money, he says he's not involved in that - I smell bullshit, therefore I don't believe it and I don't use it as an argument because it contradicts itself and something in the milk ain't clean.

He's accused of making terrible decisions as far as some creative decisions go, he says he's not really employed by TNA, Bischoff&Hervery Productions are simply providing their services, he's off the hook when it comes to all that "Bischoff doesn't know shit about wrestling" crap. My common sense is telling me that this is in fact true. I know that Bischoff is an Exec. Producer, I know that he's most likely not involved in the creative process enough to steer it in his own way, therefore I believe him.

Everything he says is not bullshit, everything he says is not pure truth. We've got brains, let's use them when it comes to this type of deal.

 

[Brian in Austin]

Yes but not really. Even if he lied about one thing to put the company over instead of hurting it, he did tell the truth about something else, and it was plain obvious that he was being frank. So if you can't believe him because he lied about ONE thing, then you should believe him because he was honest about another thing, so this argument is pretty much obsolete.

In the end, we have to use our common sense and our brains when it comes to Bischoff's claims. He says they're making money, he says he's not involved in that - I smell bullshit, therefore I don't believe it and I don't use it as an argument because it contradicts itself and something in the milk ain't clean.

He's accused of making terrible decisions as far as some creative decisions go, he says he's not really employed by TNA, Bischoff&Hervery Productions are simply providing their services, he's off the hook when it comes to all that "Bischoff doesn't know shit about wrestling" crap. My common sense is telling me that this is in fact true. I know that Bischoff is an Exec. Producer, I know that he's most likely not involved in the creative process enough to steer it in his own way, therefore I believe him.

Everything he says is not bullshit, everything he says is not pure truth. We've got brains, let's use them when it comes to this type of deal.

We're far closer on our views here than you might think. That said, Bischoff spoke repeatedly during this interview about the responsibility of the media to report the truth by verifying their stories for accuracy BEFORE printing them. Okay. Doesn't the same standard hold true for him as a representative of TNA? I mean he DID refer to the fact that he's responsible TO folks at TNA and even went so far as to say that when he's asked to do an interview that he gets permission from those HE reports to BEFORE doing said interview. So clearly, he's working FOR someone at TNA and isn't a freelance producer who can come and go as he pleases.

 

[He's Phenomenal]

Even if he's not involved in money matters, it doesn't stop him from hearing things about TNA's profit situation or being told that they're making money.

Yea that's the point I was making. Just because it's not his job, it doesn't mean he wouldn't know if the company he works for makes money.

 

[Brian in Austin]

Yea that's the point I was making. Just because it's not his job, it doesn't mean he wouldn't know if the company he works for makes money.

And I understand your point and respect it. But if true, it means that Bischoff was lying during his interview.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

And I understand your point and respect it. But if true, it means that Bischoff was lying during his interview.

Oh come on. I'm sure someone hacked the interview. Or does that work only for Twitter?

 

[Brian in Austin]

Oh come on. I'm sure someone hacked the interview. Or does that work only for Twitter?

I commented earlier that I agreed with some of what Bischoff said during the interview regarding protecting the product by not floating rumors or innuendo to wrestling media simply to, as he put it, "get over." I agreed with some of the other issues he spoke about as well with regards to confirming stories and sources before going to press.

My problem with him is this: If HE'S lying, how can we trust anything he's feeding us? And isn't he talking out both sides of his mouth if he is lying?

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I commented earlier that I agreed with some of what Bischoff said during the interview regarding protecting the product by not floating rumors or innuendo to wrestling media simply to, as he put it, "get over." I agreed with some of the other issues he spoke about as well with regards to confirming stories and sources before going to press.

My problem with him is this: If HE'S lying, how can we trust anything he's feeding us? And isn't he talking out both sides of his mouth if he is lying?

How can you trust him? Here's how: don't. Is that so complicated. If you caught him lying once, at least now you know that he is not as honest as he makes himself to be. Simple as pie. Take everything he says with a grain of salt, and if you're really interested in something he said, simply use your brain like I said, or [if possible] do some research and find out on your own. It was really his point to begin with. Scum-sheet writers believing 2nd and 3rd hand sources, reporting bullshit that's not even close to being true, and desperate pre-pubescent, overweight dipshits reading a crappy source's crappy "news", immediately believing and trusting the source, and ultimately spreading the word around on forums such as these. One guy reads a false dirtsheet rumor, decides he'll use it as a valid argument in order to sound like he knows something, goes to a forum, toots his own horn, points fingers, then a bunch of people with the same hateful mindset learn about that rumor and they go ahead and spread the same shit around so before you know it a lie has become a "fact" through repetition because people refuse to think, they refuse to research and they refuse to use their freakin' brains. So if you don't believe him, find out on your own. If you think he's lying. Find out if he is or not. People in positions such as these are always out there to protect the company's interest, and if he WAS lying, then good for him, TNA should be proud. He was asked a question, the actual answer would've been berating for the company, he lied, put them over and everything is fine and dandy. That's a good employee right there. Or whatever he is.

So he lied. It's not like he slaughtered a bunch of babies and ate their bone marrow.

 

[Brian in Austin]

Look, no one is accusing the guy of a crime here. But he is a representative, a public face of if you will, of TNA the company. Regardless of their competition, if TNA wants to be taken seriously, it is incumbent upon them to have representatives who can be trusted to represent their brand with class, dignity, and honesty. I take you all back to the issue with several recent talent issues.

1. Jeff Hardy. Hired from a company who released him due to drug addiction issues that he refused to get help for. Came to TNA. Same problem ended in his embarrassing the company at a PPV event. Now off television.

2. Mick Foley. Brought in as the Network Rep. character, only to have him shuffled off of tv and off the island after having made some less than positive remarks on twitter regarding TNA house shows.

3. Joanie "Chyna" Laurer. Brought in as Kurt Angles' helper after 10 years out of the business. Has a couple of appearances, one of which was at a PPV. Afterward it's learned that she was in negotiations for more appearances when it was learned that she had done another porn film. Gone!

These are all examples of TNA making poor choices, then having to release, let go, or not negotiate further with talents that brought bad press to their brand.


Now, back to Eric and to tie this all together. Bischoff rightfully so, took wrestling media to task for printing false stories in order to create controversy to sell ad space or site fees. I do agree, once again, that these media outlets should post the truth and not doing their homework prior is a poor reflection on them. HOWEVER, I don't believe that Bischoff lying about the profitability of TNA (if indeed he is lying), is something that TNA should be proud of. Let's keep in mind that companies like Enron lied and where did that lead? Lying is NEVER a good thing and only results in things getting worse. EB, if he is the professional that he holds himself out to be, should be willing to be more forthright about the issues he's asked about when asked about them. He never did answer the question about where Dixie Carter was and instead dodged it using the storyline as cover. We still don't know where she is, or what role she has with the company, if any. Point is, it appears that Bischoff was, and is, lying.

This is not good for EB or for TNA. It shows he's willing to lie for his company while at the same time admonishing the 'dirtsheets' for doing exactly the same thing.

 

[MB1025]

Again, I'm basing my statements on the public statement that Eric Bischoff made during his interview. He claims he doesn't have any involvement in the money side of the business. Neither does he have anything to do with talent contracts. So let's see. He doesn't know how much they are bringing in, spending, or what they pay their talent. Yet I'm supposed to believe that somehow the powers that be pull him aside and tell him "but we're making money."

Again, either Bischoff is lying about what he knows (which is my larger point here is his own lack of credibility) or he truly doesn't know in which case he 1. shouldn't be making claims of their being profitable, or 2. telling fans they are irrelevant simply because fans question him, Hogan, or the direction of TNA in general.

Your not understanding and you are being difficult because this is simple. Just because he isn't in that department that keeps track of everything like money, contracts, and etc ( you know not being involved ) doesn't mean Dixie Carter, Janice Carter, or Jeff Jarrett hasn't gone to him to show him numbers or give him reports. That would mean he isn't involved in that side of the business all he is doing is getting reports.

I am sure Panda Energy and most likely 4-5 people in TNA get those reports. Most likely Dixie Carter, Jeff Jarrett, Hulk Hogan, and Eric Bischoff. Again you don't have to be involved in anything like that to know how business is going. He is the executive producer of TNA. However he lives in Cody, Wyoming. That is pretty far from Nashville Tennessee. So I can see how he wouldn't be involved in contract talks unless he flies in to Nashville or they are done in Orlando when they are taping.

 

[MB1025]

Look, no one is accusing the guy of a crime here. But he is a representative, a public face of if you will, of TNA the company. Regardless of their competition, if TNA wants to be taken seriously, it is incumbent upon them to have representatives who can be trusted to represent their brand with class, dignity, and honesty. I take you all back to the issue with several recent talent issues.

1. Jeff Hardy. Hired from a company who released him due to drug addiction issues that he refused to get help for. Came to TNA. Same problem ended in his embarrassing the company at a PPV event. Now off television.

2. Mick Foley. Brought in as the Network Rep. character, only to have him shuffled off of tv and off the island after having made some less than positive remarks on twitter regarding TNA house shows.

3. Joanie "Chyna" Laurer. Brought in as Kurt Angles' helper after 10 years out of the business. Has a couple of appearances, one of which was at a PPV. Afterward it's learned that she was in negotiations for more appearances when it was learned that she had done another porn film. Gone!

These are all examples of TNA making poor choices, then having to release, let go, or not negotiate further with talents that brought bad press to their brand.


Now, back to Eric and to tie this all together. Bischoff rightfully so, took wrestling media to task for printing false stories in order to create controversy to sell ad space or site fees. I do agree, once again, that these media outlets should post the truth and not doing their homework prior is a poor reflection on them. HOWEVER, I don't believe that Bischoff lying about the profitability of TNA (if indeed he is lying), is something that TNA should be proud of. Let's keep in mind that companies like Enron lied and where did that lead? Lying is NEVER a good thing and only results in things getting worse. EB, if he is the professional that he holds himself out to be, should be willing to be more forthright about the issues he's asked about when asked about them. He never did answer the question about where Dixie Carter was and instead dodged it using the storyline as cover. We still don't know where she is, or what role she has with the company, if any. Point is, it appears that Bischoff was, and is, lying.

This is not good for EB or for TNA. It shows he's willing to lie for his company while at the same time admonishing the 'dirtsheets' for doing exactly the same thing.

The thing is he is not obligated to tell people what she is doing. All he did was say due to storyline reasons she is off of everything TNA. Why do you or anyone need to know where she is or what she is doing?

Again how did he lie. You are assuming he lied because he didn't tell you enough of what Dixie Carter is doing. Even if she was relieved of her duties would it be in good taste to break the news over some interview with wrestlezone? Absolutely not. That is something TNA and Dixie Carter would announce on their own timing.

 

[Brian in Austin]

MB: It is my belief that Bischoff is lying about Carter (providing a non-answer is lying. It's the same thing as leaving out something one did that might incriminate them. It's a lie of omission.) On the other hand, you're right. He's under no obligation to tell me where Dixie Carter is. However, when he's asked DIRECTLY by someone in the media who is asking him to actually clarify what the truth IS, since it is HE who is questioning the integrity OF the media, and then HE dodges that question, one can only assume he's lying (i.e. a lie of omission) when he absolutely refuses to answer the question directly.

Look, as I said before I agree with Bischoff that the media has an obligation to be truthful. But so does he! It's not a one way street.

Now can he lie? Sure he can. But sooner or later that WILL catch up with him.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Honestly, I've never seen someone make such a big deal out of a wrestling personality possibly lying about something that has to do with the company whose interest he's OBLIGED to defend.

Let's say that Bischoff lied not about this. No, scratch that, let's say Bischoff lied about many many things. How exactly is that important? Not really. It's just us, the fans, knowing that Bischoff is lying his ass off during his interviews and we won't listen to any of them because we're not getting truth, despite him saying he's frank and honest. Pretty simple. He's defending the company's interest, he's answering the way he wants to answer, and if we're really going to be honest, we should be glad and thankful that Bischoff takes time out of his schedule to actually do interviews like these. When's the last time you saw McMahon, Stephanie or Triple H do something like this? Never.

How come the entire IWC feeds off of dirt-sheets who are lying to all of us day in and day out, and do not complain one bit, but we're making a huge deal here because of one potential lie that's really not a huge deal to begin with?

 

[Brian in Austin]

Honestly, I've never seen someone make such a big deal out of a wrestling personality possibly lying about something that has to do with the company whose interest he's OBLIGED to defend.

Let's say that Bischoff lied not about this. No, scratch that, let's say Bischoff lied about many many things. How exactly is that important? Not really. It's just us, the fans, knowing that Bischoff is lying his ass off during his interviews and we won't listen to any of them because we're not getting truth, despite him saying he's frank and honest. Pretty simple. He's defending the company's interest, he's answering the way he wants to answer, and if we're really going to be honest, we should be glad and thankful that Bischoff takes time out of his schedule to actually do interviews like these. When's the last time you saw McMahon, Stephanie or Triple H do something like this? Never.

How come the entire IWC feeds off of dirt-sheets who are lying to all of us day in and day out, and do not complain one bit, but we're making a huge deal here because of one potential lie that's really not a huge deal to begin with?

Well to be fair, it's a big deal because he's a representative of a company that people like yourself feel should be taken more seriously and given a fair opportunity, like people have given WWE. On that note, I've seen both HHH and Stephanie give interviews more recently concerning their work to help end bullying and I've seen VKM give interviews, albeit, in the past on any number of issues concerning himself and his company. And in the interest I've rarely ever believed anything he had to say during interviews because he just strikes me as someone I can't trust to tell the truth. (just a feeling I get and nothing he's necessarily done to earn that reputation with me.) Back to EB. I fully understand that you as a TNA fan don't see this as anything serious, but the issues are beginning to pile up for TNA aren't they? Jeff Hardy, Chyna, Mick Foley, and now Bischoff on Carter and company finances. I just see patterns with this company that aren't necessarily good.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Look, no one is accusing the guy of a crime here. But he is a representative, a public face of if you will, of TNA the company. Regardless of their competition, if TNA wants to be taken seriously, it is incumbent upon them to have representatives who can be trusted to represent their brand with class, dignity, and honesty. I take you all back to the issue with several recent talent issues.

1. Jeff Hardy. Hired from a company who released him due to drug addiction issues that he refused to get help for. Came to TNA. Same problem ended in his embarrassing the company at a PPV event. Now off television.

Erm, WWe threw everything at Jeff to get him to stay - more money, title reigns and a reduced schedule. TNA took a chance on possibly the WWe's most over guy at that time, they've gotten burned but risk versus reward has long since been a part of the business and it is churlish to Monday morning QB with 'I told you so', had the E gotten their way it would have been their fingers that got burned.

2. Mick Foley. Brought in as the Network Rep. character, only to have him shuffled off of tv and off the island after having made some less than positive remarks on twitter regarding TNA house shows.

TNA offered Foley sanctuary when he couldn't work with Vince in his ear. His buddy 'the Rock' reappears for WWe and suddenly he's disillusioned? I'm sorry, but if there is a bad guy here, it certainly wasn't TNA.

3. Joanie "Chyna" Laurer. Brought in as Kurt Angles' helper after 10 years out of the business. Has a couple of appearances, one of which was at a PPV. Afterward it's learned that she was in negotiations for more appearances when it was learned that she had done another porn film. Gone!

Surely this is proof that they learned from Jeff, hire the woman that can always fire 'I was f***ing him first!' at the the Billion Dollar Princess. To non smarks, her appearance is on a level with Roddy's on Monday night or Ricky Steamboats short series on the back of the Wrestler / Y2J storyline.

These are all examples of TNA making poor choices, then having to release, let go, or not negotiate further with talents that brought bad press to their brand.

No, this is examples of a business taking risks. The best example of a risk that has worked is Kurt Angle, who actually did part ways with the WWe due to substance addiction and still has the occasional bad press but is, rightfully, adored by TNA fans and many TNA doubters. Had TNA not taken the gamble on Christian, would he now have the fanbase he has or would he, literally, have become the Jannetty of E&C? Mr Kennedy is another example of someone who left the WWe in less than an ideal manner and, yet, he is now the World Champion. Resigning 52 year old Steve Borden? Splitting up Team 3D? All risks

Now, back to Eric and to tie this all together. Bischoff rightfully so, took wrestling media to task for printing false stories in order to create controversy to sell ad space or site fees. I do agree, once again, that these media outlets should post the truth and not doing their homework prior is a poor reflection on them. HOWEVER, I don't believe that Bischoff lying about the profitability of TNA (if indeed he is lying), is something that TNA should be proud of. Let's keep in mind that companies like Enron lied and where did that lead? Lying is NEVER a good thing and only results in things getting worse. EB, if he is the professional that he holds himself out to be, should be willing to be more forthright about the issues he's asked about when asked about them. He never did answer the question about where Dixie Carter was and instead dodged it using the storyline as cover. We still don't know where she is, or what role she has with the company, if any. Point is, it appears that Bischoff was, and is, lying.

This is not good for EB or for TNA. It shows he's willing to lie for his company while at the same time admonishing the 'dirtsheets' for doing exactly the same thing.

TNA have been reporting that they are profitable for a couple of years now, this is not exactly a hush hush affair. They are also part of an organisation that isn't going to put up with the old ECW / WCW models of losing money hand over fist. Eric is a business man, I'm sure he can appreciate this. As such he doesn't have to know diddly squat about their accounts. Having fulfilled the duties that Panda now perform, I would guess that Easy E could nearly forecast just how profitable they are without being privy to the actual info.

As far as Dixie is concerned. What has he said that he can be taken to task on? That the press has released falsehoods? They haven't done that before, have they? Oh right, he avoided saying what the actual story was... hate to break it to anyone but this is nobodies business but Dixie Carter's and it certainly isn't Eric Bischoff's job to say f*** all about the truth. Example, I take a sabbatical from my job for six months to look after a sick relative but I don't tell anyone except my boss because it's personal, a rumour starts up that I've been suspended for *insert scandalous reason*. My boss, getting wind of this, decides to squash this and holds a meeting with the staff where he informs them that I am on a career break but still doesn't reveal why, because he is under no obligation to do so, in fact, he is at a greater obligation to not say so. What right do you have to know why Dixie isn't currently on our screens? How does Bischoff not telling you what you want to know diminish the truth or reduce the validity of what he does say?

 

[Brian in Austin]

1. I've seen no proof that Jeff was being courted by WWE. I have, however, read numerous accounts that not only had he been suspended by WWE twice for addiction issues, but that he also refused treatment, leading to his dismissal. Until I hear differently those are the facts.

2.Foley was in good standing until his twitter comments. Coincidence? I think not.

3. No, they're examples of poor choices. Angle had multiple run-ins, like Jeff Hardy, with the WWE wellness policy and refused treatment, stating he didn't have a problem. Hardy was at LEAST a 2 time offender of that same policy before coming to TNA. Chyna was KNOWN to have alchohol, drug, and porn issues. Yet, they STILL hire her and now want nothing to do with her.

4. You're right. Eric is under no obligation to answer questions. Under your work scenario neither are you or your boss. And yet, people are STILL free to speculate. Unless and until YOU confirm it, whether true or not, people will talk. Answer it, don't answer it. The fallout from it will be your fault, like it or not.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Chyna was KNOWN to have alchohol, drug, and porn issues. Yet, they STILL hire her and now want nothing to do with her.

Brian in Austin, it was an handshake deal with a possibility ( and i really mean a possibility) of hiring her afterwards. When they (TNA) found out that Chyna was doing porn they wanted nothing to do with her. Good for them for not using her afterwards.

 

[Carpathian Florist]

it was an handshake deal with a possibility ( and i really mean a possibility) of hiring her afterwards. When they (TNA) found out that Chyna was doing porn they wanted nothing to do with her. Good for them for not using her afterwards.

Hasn't this been denied by everyone though, including Chyna herself?

It seems to me that most threads die after 5 or 6 pages, this has reached 22 so far.
Wrestling doesn't matter.
BISCHOFF MATTERS!

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

1. I've seen no proof that Jeff was being courted by WWE. I have, however, read numerous accounts that not only had he been suspended by WWE twice for addiction issues, but that he also refused treatment, leading to his dismissal. Until I hear differently those are the facts.

Proof? Hardy had a long WHC reign before his departure... as you would say "Coincidence? I think not".

2.Foley was in good standing until his twitter comments. Coincidence? I think not.

Hmmm, what did I say for this response? "TNA offered Foley sanctuary when he couldn't work with Vince in his ear. His buddy 'the Rock' reappears for WWe and suddenly he's disillusioned? I'm sorry, but if there is a bad guy here, it certainly wasn't TNA." Oh, I get it - your agreeing.

3. No, they're examples of poor choices. Angle had multiple run-ins, like Jeff Hardy, with the WWE wellness policy and refused treatment, stating he didn't have a problem. Hardy was at LEAST a 2 time offender of that same policy before coming to TNA. Chyna was KNOWN to have alchohol, drug, and porn issues. Yet, they STILL hire her and now want nothing to do with her.

Jeff had drug issues before he was brought back to the WWe and they made him a two time WHC. Nobody would claim that this was a 'poor choice' though because he was very successful in that role. What about Jake Roberts and his history of self destruction and yet he was brought back to the WWF and was the finalist in the KotR that lead to the creation of a certain ground breaking character.

Only the IWC or 10%ers give two d about Miss Laurer's short appearance. Honestly, tell me the difference between Chyna's appearance and those of Piper or Steamboat?

4. You're right. Eric is under no obligation to answer questions. Under your work scenario neither are you or your boss. And yet, people are STILL free to speculate. Unless and until YOU confirm it, whether true or not, people will talk. Answer it, don't answer it. The fallout from it will be your fault, like it or not.

Wow, this could quite possibly be the most idiotic thing I've ever read. Your saying that I'm to blame for having a private life in this scenario The blame here would be with the idiot who, without any actual facts, decides to start a malicious rumour.

Just for arguments sake (and I would seriously hope this is not the case), imagine the reason Dixie is off television is that she has cancer and is due chemo that will result in losing her hair, amongst other debilitating side effects. So she takes time out from TNA. Why should it be her fault that some jackass decides 'Hey, I haven't seen Dixie on tv recently and, rumour has it, she hasn't been seen backstage either. She's not twittering much either... She must have something to hide! What can I guess is the reason?' If you believe that she is to blame instead of the rumour monger, then there is truly no hope for you and you are a real 10%er, congratulations!

 

[Brian in Austin]

I get it. You're a huge TNA mark and therefore, see no wrong in anything they do. Got it. As for it being your fault on the rumor scenario here's the deal.

It's not your fault for others starting the rumor. But if YOU choose to not answer the concerns, then others are free to draw whatever conclusions they might, be they right or wrong. What I'm saying is if you do nothing to enlighten people as to the truth, THAT is YOUR fault.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

I get it. You're a huge TNA mark and therefore, see no wrong in anything they do. Got it. As for it being your fault on the rumor scenario here's the deal.

This really is your standard comeback, isn't it? "You don't agree with my smarkdom, hence your a TNA mark". I'm a wrestling fan, I watch all WWe programming as well as TNA and I will criticise Impact when it requires it. I'm not a big fan of Latin America because it comes across as a weak version of LAX; I don't think it elevates the World belt to have a guy pin the World Champion two weeks running that was getting out thought by EY less than a month ago. Here's an idea, try to prove me wrong - tell me that WWe did not bring back Jeff after he'd had drug issues in his past. Tell me that it is only a coincidence that Foley only became a troublesome employee after his, more famous, buddy reappeared on WWe's products. Prove me wrong when I say that Chyna's short run amounts to nothing more than any other special guest appearance.

It's not your fault for others starting the rumor. But if YOU choose to not answer the concerns, then others are free to draw whatever conclusions they might, be they right or wrong. What I'm saying is if you do nothing to enlighten people as to the truth, THAT is YOUR fault.

No that is my right, to ignore stupid rumours leaves them exactly that. My life is my life and nobodies business but mine. If I wish to say simply that's not true, then that is sufficient. Bischoff said that the stories about Dixie were untrue but because he didn't provide a satisfactory alternative, you are calling him a liar. It's none of your business and it is not his position to 'set people straight', it's Dixie's choice to let people know or not - if she chooses to keep her reasons private that does not make it her fault that some moron has put out a rumour as fact when it is lies.

 

[Brian in Austin]

This really is your standard comeback, isn't it? "You don't agree with my smarkdom, hence your a TNA mark". I'm a wrestling fan, I watch all WWe programming as well as TNA and I will criticise Impact when it requires it. I'm not a big fan of Latin America because it comes across as a weak version of LAX; I don't think it elevates the World belt to have a guy pin the World Champion two weeks running that was getting out thought by EY less than a month ago. Here's an idea, try to prove me wrong - tell me that WWe did not bring back Jeff after he'd had drug issues in his past. Tell me that it is only a coincidence that Foley only became a troublesome employee after his, more famous, buddy reappeared on WWe's products. Prove me wrong when I say that Chyna's short run amounts to nothing more than any other special guest appearance.



No that is my right, to ignore stupid rumours leaves them exactly that. My life is my life and nobodies business but mine. If I wish to say simply that's not true, then that is sufficient. Bischoff said that the stories about Dixie were untrue but because he didn't provide a satisfactory alternative, you are calling him a liar. It's none of your business and it is not his position to 'set people straight', it's Dixie's choice to let people know or not - if she chooses to keep her reasons private that does not make it her fault that some moron has put out a rumour as fact when it is lies.

Actually Bischoff didn't say the rumors about Carter were untrue. He SAID that given the storyline of her losing control of her company to Hogan that it made sense for her to be written off television and off social media. (i.e. twitter updates) He NEVER said the rumors were untrue, which is my point. He never really answered the interviewers question about WHERE, exactly, she was or what she was doing for the company. He elaborated only slightly about her involvement in some talent negotiations, and nothing more than that. So, for as much as he and others whine about what's being said and written, it's their own fault for not clarifying the question with a clear answer. So if people speculate (i.e. print rumors, hoping to smoke out an actual answer) and this is the strategy they (TNA) chooses, that's their fault. Which is my point about your scenario. If you said to people that the rumors were not true, fair enough. That's all that need be said. But if you say nothing, then the rumors will persist because that tends to be human nature. I'm not defending that activity, I'm saying it's reality that short of clearly defined answers, that is what can, and often does, happen. So if your choice were to say nothing, and people continued spreading rumors, oh well. You had your chance.

As for Hardy, you'd like me to prove he wasn't a drug addict while in WWE? Really? You want me to prove that WWE wasn't happy to be rid of him? Really? I mean REALLY? As to Chyna Bischoff HIMSELF said he was never high on the idea of bringing her in to start with and once the news of her latest movie surfaced, that relationship with TNA was ended. You may not want to accept all of the coincidences and line up the dots, but most others I'm sure can see the patterns.

As for your objectivity, you have none. I don't care that you watch WWE programming. That doesn't make you objective. Being objective means being open to the possibility that something you may not on the surface believe, could actually be true. You must, if you want to be considered objective, be willing to accept that perhaps your position is wrong. I'm more than willing to accept that all these things I'm saying could be wrong, but guess what?

1. Jeff Hardy is out due to drug addiction.

2. Mick Foley is indeed gone.

3. Chyna is in fact gone as well.

You may not be willing to accept the IDEA of the circumstances surrounding each of their departures, but I certainly am.