ECW Region, Fourth Round, Hell In A Cell: (2) Sting vs. (6) Chris Jericho

[klunderbunker]

This is a third round match in the ECW Region. It is a Hell In A Cell match held under ECW Rules. It will be held at the Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Rules: The match will take place inside the Hell In A Cell cage. Anything goes inside and the match is won by pinfall or submission. Falls must take place in the ring.

#2. Sting

Vs.

#6. Chris Jericho

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This match takes place 1 week after round 3.

Polls will be open for four days following a one day period for discussion. Voting will be based on who you feel is the greater of the two competitors. Post your reasons for why your pick should win below. Remember that this is non-spam and the most votes in the poll win. Any ties will be broken by the amount of posts of support for each candidate, with one vote per poster.

Also remember that this is a non-spam forum. If you post a response without giving a reason for your selection, it will be penalized for spam and deleted.

 

[The Brain]

Jericho has had a fairly easy path through the tournament up to this point but this is the end of the line for him. As I've said before Jericho is a frequent loser. Here he is in a big match at a big event against a bigger star. The Sting of 1988-2000 was a much bigger star than the Chris Jericho of the 21st centruy. Sting was the heart and soul of WCW for years and was consistently the top face there. Jericho was always a guy that bounced between mid card and main event and was never the top guy. Sting has the better record in big matches and he should easily move on against Jericho.

 

[Tastycles]

I like Jericho a lot, and don't really care about Sting, however the fact has to be said that Sting is not a consistent loser, and Jericho is. Sting has always been able to remain in the title picture and in the main event scene wherever he has been, and Jericho just hasn't. I think Hell in a Cell probably doesn't really help either man, so I have to go with the man who has had 20 years as being a huge player, and not the man who's credentials rely heavily on one night in 2001.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

As Tastycles pointed out, Sting's a winner. He wins, far more often than Jericho.

Stings also better than Jericho. He's bigger, tougher and just as agile. You take both men at their absolute best, and it's really not a contest. Sting, throughout his career, has consistently beaten bigger and better competition, in all sorts of matches.

I love Jericho, but he wouldn't get by Sting. He wouldn't.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

As the leader to camp Jericho I'd like to begin by stating this vote is totally biased and I'm not ashamed... okay, I am a little.

Sting's record in cage matches is pretty damn good. He competed in the majority of War Games during his time in NWA/WCW, his team regularly being on the winning side, however as a singles competitor steel structures aren't his friends. Sting's most recent singles cage match for example was against Mick Foley at Lockdown 2009 which ended in defeat. Jericho's record inside steel structures is pretty good, he has won a majority of his steel cage matches, dating back to his first at No Mercy 2000 against X-Pac, he has taken a victory over Christian, two over Steve Austin, CM Punk and Batista. His Hell in a Cell record is one loss in one match, against Triple H no-less whose a proven master of the Hell in a Cell, having three losses in nine matches.

Jericho can be viscous when he wishes. Sting may have a proven record in War Games matches but this isn't War Games and he hasn't got a team of four others backing him. It's hard to create a strong argument for Chris that will sway peoples vote but I'll put it like this, Sting taking this win means little. Chris Jericho is an underdog at this stage and Sting won't end up taking this entire thing, everybody enjoys an underdog story, so with that I ask that you cast your important vote for Chris Jericho, Sting can win this another year, Chris has advanced far, allow him to continue on his path to victory; or at least the semi-finals.

 

[Bernkastel]

As much as I like Jericho, it just doesn't make any sense to vote for him here. Not only was Sting a tremendous competitor, but he also had that sadistic streak in him that would have made a HIAC match his match to lose.

I'm not picturing Surfer Sting in this match, I'm picturing Crow Sting, who was WCW verison of the Undertaker for years. I wouldn't vote Jericho over Taker in a HIAC, so I'm very hesitant to vote him over Sting in the same setting.

I can see Sting outlasting Jericho's tenacity and cleverness, making him tap out in a pool of his own blood with the Scorpion Deathlock.

 

[The Wrestling God]

I am going with Jericho on this one Sting has never competed in Hell in a Cell Jericho has, and yes Sting has 17 Wargames Appearances but Jericho has 7 Elimination chamber appearances which may not even out since they aren't equal I figured I would get both of the matches that are similar to Hell in a Cell out of the way because the big reason why I vote for Jericho is this:

This is taking place in ECW plain and simple. Jericho would beat Sting in a Sting Look A Like contest in ECW because they loved him their. Also strictly speaking Jericho in his prime in ECW would be sting in his prime in ECW in anything especially a hell in a cell match.

In Conclusion Break The Walls Down, Vote Jericho

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I like to begin this by saying that throughout my four years on WZ, I have grown to admire many of you. Sure I've thought some of your posts regarding this tournament and past tournaments have been illogical and nonsensical, but I have always respected you all. You will always hold a special place in my heart no matter how stupid of your posts may have been.

With that being said...

I am going with Jericho on this one Sting has never competed in Hell in a Cell Jericho has, and yes Sting has 17 Wargames Appearances but Jericho has 7 Elimination chamber appearances which may not even out since they aren't equal I figured I would get both of the matches that are similar to Hell in a Cell out of the way because the big reason why I vote for Jericho is this:

Jericho is 1-6 in Elimination Chamber appearances. You sure you want to use that?


The reason for my opening statement is coming right now.

This is taking place in ECW plain and simple. Jericho would beat Sting in a Sting Look A Like contest in ECW because they loved him their. Also strictly speaking Jericho in his prime in ECW would be sting in his prime in ECW in anything especially a hell in a cell match.

In Conclusion Break The Walls Down, Vote Jericho

I hope for your sake and the sake of us that if you're living with someone right now, they should take your computer and laptop and destroy it so you will never type anything resembling the abomination that I have just have the misfortune of laying my eyes upon.

Chris Jericho spent a grand total of SIX months in ECW so that means he will beat Sting. Sting was loved everywhere he went so why don't you mention that? Why in the blue hell would I consider Jericho in ECW to be his prime? Answer me that.

 

[Shocky]

LJL hit on it, but my God the argument for Jericho winning because he worked in ECW is terrible. Hey ladies and gentlemen, do you want to know why Sting didn't compete in ECW? Pull some chairs around, gather around, sit in a circle or something. Here's why Sting didn't compete in ECW, Sting was to busy winning world titles in a major company instead of performing in front of a bunch of sadistic, shitty wrestling fans in a fucking bingo hall. Sting was busy going onto become one of the biggest draws in the world in 1997. Sting was apart of the reason why WCW became the #1 wrestling company in the world. Simply put, Sting didn't compete in ECW because ECW wasn't worthy of having Sting step in it's shitty little arena.

Now that that silliness is out of the way, vote Sting. Why, because Sting is better than Chris Jericho. Sting is a no selling, face popping guy that would steam roll Chris Jericho. Jericho might hit a codebreaker, but Sting would just pop up, slam his chest like a mad man, lock Jericho in the Deathlock, and move onto the next round.

 

[a0161613]

There's no good logic that can push Jericho on here. Sting made a habit of coming out on top against opponents like Jericho in environments like this. Jericho is and always was enhancement talent, flip-flopping up and down the card and Sting has always been a main event level wrestler.

Sting is ten times the superstar that Jericho ever has been and Jericho would roll over for the superior guy just like he spent most of his career doing.

 

[Danger Burger]

Can i mark out yet?? I'll wait!

I dont even care who wins! These guys are two of my all time favourites, I cant pick... I'll use the arguement i used earlier to get Nash past HHH... Bedroom time.

First wrestling toy i got was Benoit (i liked benoit because he was tough, but smaller, and i was the runt of my family so i had benoit kick my brothers psycho Sid toys ass... I'm getting off topic here) I got the sting toy and jericho toy later, and hell i loved those guys too (they also kicked Sid's ass and the new hogan toys too) but they always had the best matches!! Advantage had to go to sting cause he was more mobile, and leaner too! The WWF toys always had terribly made legs, he could get the lion tamer going, but he couldnt hold it! For some reason I always had sting do a moonsault, and that never failed (though he'd usually do around 100 an hour either way), jericho's lionsault was entirely underwhelming cause the legs didnt bend, it just looked awful... In their primes, they each beat taker, hhh, mankind, austin, the apa and jake the snake week after week, so its a toughie, but sting consistantly out manuevered jerichero... Sting all the way!

Right, there you have it. I have dug deep, back to when marks were marks and midcarders beat Psycho Sid... But i'll wait for a more compelling arguement before i pick!!

 

[JWGunslinger]

I love both guys but gotta go with Jericho here, the man thrives in a structure like Hell In A Cell because he's the kind of superstar who truely takes advantage of his environment. Jericho has the clever calculating mind to deliver a beating to Sting in this kind of match, he's always been at the top yet people always seem to count him out and doubt him, that never stopped him from beating two beasts in Stone Cold and The Rock(on the same night no less) to become the Undisputed Champion. Sting has war games experience and can go apeshit when he gets fired up but Jericho is at home in a match like this, I dont see Sting looking to hot while being put in the walls on top of the cell.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I love both guys but gotta go with Jericho here, the man thrives in a structure like Hell In A Cell because he's the kind of superstar who truely takes advantage of his environment.

He's only been in one and lost that one when he got Pedigreed on top of the cell. Where was this taking advantage of the environment then?

Jericho has the clever calculating mind to deliver a beating to Sting in this kind of match, he's always been at the top yet people always seem to count him out and doubt him, that never stopped him from beating two beasts in Stone Cold and The Rock(on the same night no less) to become the Undisputed Champion.

Jericho fans seem to forget the massive amounts of interference for Jericho to achieve this feat. I might label it Jerichonesia.

Sting has war games experience and can go apeshit when he gets fired up but Jericho is at home in a match like this, I dont see Sting looking to hot while being put in the walls on top of the cell.

How exactly is Jericho at home in a match like this? Sting routinely came out on top in War Games matches. If anything, Sting is more at home because he actually wins.

 

[JWGunslinger]

He thrives in matches like Hell In A Cell, he's been in countless steel cage matches and Elimination Chambers. Over time he's become a cagey(pun intended) veteran who knows the inside of a metal structure very well. Matches where he has weapons at his disposal whether they be chairs or the walls of a cell.

Sting did well in War Games but this aint WCW and the only war happening is one on one, Chris Jericho vs Sting. Jericho's greatest skill is the ability to overcome odds, this is where he shines.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

He thrives in matches like Hell In A Cell, he's been in countless steel cage matches and Elimination Chambers. Over time he's become a cagey(pun intended) veteran who knows the inside of a metal structure very well. Matches where he has weapons at his disposal whether they be chairs or the walls of a cell.

Gotta love that 1-6 record in Elimination Chambers. Top of the line. Sting isn't a novice to cage matches as you've evidenced before.

Sting did well in War Games but this aint WCW and the only war happening is one on one, Chris Jericho vs Sting. Jericho's greatest skill is the ability to overcome odds, this is where he shines.

You claim that Jericho thrives in matches like Hell in a Cell but this ain't WWE. Jericho has routinely to stars like HHH and Cena. What makes me think that he will beat Sting?

 

[JWGunslinger]

Him not winning every Elimination Chamber should not take away the fact that he's gained a wealth of experience in them and has eliminated plenty of men in those matches and his steel cage record aint bad, in a one on one match in a similar structure he would be just fine. This is a close match up, both guys are well qualified but gets his hand raised in the end.

Jericho may not have the constant winning streak thing going for him, he's always been a superstar with highs and lows but that's what's so great about him. He loses here and there to a top name and then when put in the right circumstances he'll shine and he'll be the man on top.

 

[JGlass]

Jericho's greatest skill is the ability to overcome odds, this is where he shines.

Where the FUCK did you pull that little nugget from? Jericho's greatest ability has NEVER been overcoming the odds. He's not a guy that consistently beats guys that are bigger and stronger than him, he's a guy that consistently loses against guys that are bigger and stronger than him.

Jericho's biggest talent is getting what he deserves. That's his thing, he's the asshole that runs his mouth until he wishes he didn't, and that's exactly what would happen here. Jericho would play his head games and mess with Sting, but when they started to wrestle it would be The Icon that leaves with his hands raised.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

In the last round it was Roddy Piper against Sting. Sting won. I therefore don't see what reasons there are for voting Jericho over here when Piper was more or less the original Jericho. Cowardly heel, ran his mouth, pissed people off with his arrogant and comedic lines and always got his just deserts for it in the end. Just like Wrestlemania 1, just like Wrestlemania 28.

Sting is a cleaner than clean face. One thing Sting does reliably when it's a clean match, is winning. He wins, not only in normal matches, but in cage matches like WarGames as pointed out before. I can see a really good feud, both guys are great on the mic, but when it comes to this point, when you're introducing the HIAC, you are ending the feud, and nothing ends a feud better than a broken Chris Jericho losing and getting his comeuppance.

Whilst it can be argued that Jericho has plenty of experience also in there types of matches, it's also been demonstrated that the same experience has gained him nothing. You'd think if he'd have learnt enough from his previous encounter to best less experienced foes, he'd have done it, and yet the only time he has managed to was when Shawn Michaels slid out from under a grate in the Elimination Chamber and superkicked The Undertaker (who was about to win) right in the jaw. Then Jericho slid over for the pin. And were it not for that, he'd have a perfect losing record in the gimmick cage matches.

It's Sting's all day every day.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

As the leader to camp Jericho I'd like to begin by stating this vote is totally biased and I'm not ashamed... okay, I am a little.

Sting's record in cage matches is pretty damn good. He competed in the majority of War Games during his time in NWA/WCW, his team regularly being on the winning side, however as a singles competitor steel structures aren't his friends. Sting's most recent singles cage match for example was against Mick Foley at Lockdown 2009 which ended in defeat. Jericho's record inside steel structures is pretty good, he has won a majority of his steel cage matches, dating back to his first at No Mercy 2000 against X-Pac, he has taken a victory over Christian, two over Steve Austin, CM Punk and Batista. His Hell in a Cell record is one loss in one match, against Triple H no-less whose a proven master of the Hell in a Cell, having three losses in nine matches.

Jericho can be viscous when he wishes. Sting may have a proven record in War Games matches but this isn't War Games and he hasn't got a team of four others backing him. It's hard to create a strong argument for Chris that will sway peoples vote but I'll put it like this, Sting taking this win means little. Chris Jericho is an underdog at this stage and Sting won't end up taking this entire thing, everybody enjoys an underdog story, so with that I ask that you cast your important vote for Chris Jericho, Sting can win this another year, Chris has advanced far, allow him to continue on his path to victory; or at least the semi-finals.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=164191

Care to stand by that statement in bold? Sting lost by two votes in last years final to SCSA and beat the Rock, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley, Goldberg (in HiaC), Stan Hansen and Jessie Ventura on route.

As too experience; ordinary Cage Matches should be discounted if it was won by escape as that isn't an option here.

In a bout with no outside interference possible, Y2J is the lamb to the slaughter here because Sting built his legacy beating up the original Y2J in Ric Flair. Too big, too powerful, plain just too good - Sting batters Jericho into Jerigoo and move on!

 

[LSN80]

I love Chris Jericho as much as the next guy, but he's simply out of his element against Sting. Jericho, at his best, is wily and uses his intelligence to beat guys in matches such as this: Batista on the 700th edition of Raw comes to mind. Batista, who's beaten HHH and Undertaker(very taintedly, albeit) inside Hell in A Cell. What's the difference, really, between a Cage and HIAC? Not much, to be honest.

But this isn't Batista he'ld be trying to outsmart, this would be Sting. Sting, who played mind games with Hogan and his cronies for almost a year, and made Hogan tap out. Hogan, who rarely lost, clean or otherwise, tapped out to Sting. That alone ranks up there with Jericho's biggest claim to fame of beating Rock and Austin on the same night.

Let's look at intangibles. Sting is bigger, stronger, and in his prime, as agile as Y2J. He's also got a vicious streak a mile long- see WWE Uncenscored, where he took out the entire NWO by himself. Dragon Saga's claim of Sting not having backup rings hollow, as Sting took them out, by himself.

Hell in a Cell has often linked wrestlers to their favorite objects of destruction. Prime example number one would be HHH in just about every HIAC match he's ever been in. Sting happens to carry around a pretty vicious object of his own in a bat- What's to stop him from retreiving the bat from under the ring, and wearing Jericho the heck out?

This would be a fun match, but this is Sting's match to win. Sting's got more major championships, has been "the man" for several companies, while Jericho has floated between mid-card and placeholder in the main event. He's never been the man, and would never, kayfabe wise, be positioned to beat Sting.

Jericho's tapped out a few hundred times in his career, and this would be just one more time. Sting, after enduring an early flurry of offense, no sells the codebreaker, and wears Jericho out with the bat. Stinger splash, deathdrop, Deathlock, submission. Sting wins this.

 

[nightmare]

STING.


The record in War Games vs Jericho's in HIAC\EC should be enough there.


Jericho made a career out of running his mouth and being beaten by top guys. Sting made a career out of beating the top guys for World Titles.


Jericho is tough? Because he was in ECW? Really? Sting and his bat beat up the entire NWO. An entire faction made up of superstars and mid card favorites got beat up all at the same time by one man and a baseball bat for months. That is tough and he did it without saying a word.


Vote Sting. At best Jericho would have been just another man in the NWO. The largest group in history than ran wild over WCW came to fear just one man. That man is Sting. Splash, DDT, Scorpion Death Lock. Y2J goes home to practice with his band while Sting moves on doing what he does best- winning wrestling matches.

 

[The Gribbler]

I voted for Jericho because I know he will lose, but at this point he doesn't deserve a blowout. Just stop Jericho looking like an assclown coz I think he is better than that.

But sting wins this one all day every day. Big match, a legend of WCW vs a high class main event jobber. One of the best in the world at putting people over and making himself look good at the same time. He walks out looking like a million dollars but sting walks out with his arms raised.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

As much as I like Chris Jericho, I have to go with Sting in this one. Jericho, while being a multi-time World Champion, was never THE top guy in WWE, Sting was always right at the top in WCW throughout his prime. He has beaten bigger and better than Y2J, and while Jericho has been inside a Cell before, I don't think there is anything about the Devil's Playground that would worry The Stinger.

The only reason for anyone to vote Jericho is that he beat Austin and Rock in one night, but he never..EEEEEVVVVER reached that high again, he was an upper-midcarder and occasional main eventer. Sting has lived in the main event for 20 years, and he would be very much the favourite in this match.

The smart vote is Sting. Be smart.

 

[Silly Willy Nilly Vanilly in the Milly]

I am going with Jericho on this one Sting has never competed in Hell in a Cell Jericho has, and yes Sting has 17 Wargames Appearances but Jericho has 7 Elimination chamber appearances which may not even out since they aren't equal I figured I would get both of the matches that are similar to Hell in a Cell out of the way because the big reason why I vote for Jericho is this:

This is taking place in ECW plain and simple. Jericho would beat Sting in a Sting Look A Like contest in ECW because they loved him there. Also strictly speaking Jericho in his prime in ECW would be sting in his prime in ECW in anything especially a hell in a cell match.

In Conclusion Break The Walls Down, Vote Jericho

I actually considered Y2J for a nanosecond; then I read this.
Jericho did have 7 EC appearances, 6 of which he lost, and his ONE victory was due to the interference of Shawn Michaels.

Stay down!

That will always be hilarious.
Back on topic: Sting was in 17 WG matches, 14 of which he and his team came out victorious and 7 of which he and his team won consecutively.
They DO NOT even out.
Sting's victory percentage: 82.35%
Y2J's: 14.29%
ECW, plain and simple? You mean the guy who wrestled *drum roll* 22 matches in ECW over the course of six months? This doesn't favor either man.
But HIAC favors Sting, so my vote goes out to him.