Yep. Pretty much my thoughts. Money talks after all.
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Yep. Pretty much my thoughts. Money talks after all.
Captain Morgan Freeman
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Playing in a league far beneath his abilities and giving up any sort of international career so he can make some money even though any club he went to on a free transfer would have paid him a lot of money anyway.
He's entitled to do what he likes but im still going to think he's a lazy shite with no ambition.
Given that most of the clubs apparently interested in him were going to offer half of what he has ultimately accepted, and plus, given that he isn't much of an important player for the NT.
His reasoning for taking the offer of Toronto FC makes a load of sense.
His salary will now be double what it was at Juventus.
According to some info I read, his current salary at Juventus(around 2.2mil Euros) would be top salary at the majority of other Serie A clubs(75% of the Top Flight clubs).
At Toronto FC, it will be around 6mil Euros, I believe.
Seems a pretty easy decision given the stage he is at.
Captain Morgan Freeman
Taught Elvis how to play karate
If money is your number one motivator in life then sure. But not a chance that applies to the whole population.
Captain Morgan Freeman
Taught Elvis how to play karate
Which going by the figures you provided would be 3 million which would be an increase on what he was making at Juventus anyway!
Even though he was in the national team for the last 3 years before the world cup. Seeing as Italy aren't blessed with strikers if he moved to a club where his place was guaranteed and rediscovered his form at Parma he would be right back in the team. Just ask Daniel Sturridge.
Italy's two main forwards Balotelli and Immobile are both in bad form at the moment, it wouldn't be hard to get ahead of them in the team.
So money should be the number 1 motivator for footballers who already earn boatloads of money wherever they go. Nevermind trophies, playing at the highest level, getting to play for the national team. Football really is going fucking crazy.
Players tend to make the decision to move to a league like the MLS or Dubai when they are past their prime and have to drop down a level. Giovinco is 27 and just about to hit his prime. He could move to Toronto in 5 years for a big payoff if he wanted to. But just like he was happy to sit on the bench for the last two years while Juventus bought Tevez, Lorente and Morata he's once again showing he has no ambition.
Captain Morgan Freeman
Taught Elvis how to play karate
Well there's a difference between money being a major motivator and the number 1 motivator in your career.
Personally i would put job satisfaction one step above salary. In that i would take a small to below average decrease in salary to move from a job i hated to a job i would like.
I mean fuck me it's not like by not moving to Toronto Giovinco isn't going to be a millionaire anyway.
And there will be no job satisfaction in North America? People seem to manage over there.
Fewer hours and more money doing exactly the same job sounds good to me. Course I work to live, not live to work, and get creeped out by people who are the other way.
Fewer hours and more money doing exactly the same job sounds good to me. Course I work to live, not live to work, and get creeped out by people who are the other way.
Captain Morgan Freeman
Taught Elvis how to play karate
Your treating it as a 9-5 job though(which i guess Giovinco does too). It's not like any job anyone on this forum does it's an athletic competition that he also happens to be paid to do.
For me at least on any sport ive taken part in the best enjoyment is from pushing yourself to the limit and improving at that sport while also playing in the team you train with. Winning something is then all the more sweeter after the effort that came in the months before it. Playing with or against people who you are much much better than would get pretty boring after a while, the equivalent of me dropping out of my local senior GAA team to play along with the under 16 team. No challenge whatsoever.
Im all for working to live by the way. However i finished a well paid internship a few months ago that was so monotonous it near drove me insane.
For me at least on any sport ive taken part in the best enjoyment is from pushing yourself to the limit and improving at that sport while also playing in the team you train with. Winning something is then all the more sweeter after the effort that came in the months before it. Playing with or against people who you are much much better than would get pretty boring after a while, the equivalent of me dropping out of my local senior GAA team to play along with the under 16 team. No challenge whatsoever.
Im all for working to live by the way. However i finished a well paid internship a few months ago that was so monotonous it near drove me insane.
A11oftheLights
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Speak for yourself but I have a trial with a club in Indonesia in 6 months
Giovinco's current Juventus salary of €2.2/£1.68 million per year would be the most expensive wage on 14 of the 20 Serie A teams, per Carlo Laudisa at La Gazzetta dello Sport .
Atalanta: German Denis; €1.2 million/£917,042
Cagliari: Daniele Conti; €800,000/£611,361.
Cesena: Guido Marilungo; €400,000/£305,680.
Chievo Verona: Alberto Paloschi; €700,000/£534,941.
Empoli: Francesco Tavano; €300,000/£229,260.
Genoa: Alessandro Matri; €1 million/£764,202.
Hellas Verona: Luca Toni; €1 million/£764,202.
Lazio: Miroslav Klose; €2/£1.53 million.
Palermo: Stefano Sorrentino; €900,000/£687,782.
Parma: Antonio Cassano; €1.5/£1.15 million.
Sampdoria: Sergio Romero; €1.7/£1.30 million.
Sassuolo: Domenico Berardi; €1.1 million/£840,622.
Torino: Fabio Quagliarella; €750,000/£573,151.
Udinese: Antonio Di Natale; €1.3 million/£993,463.
As seen above; he doesn't have much options in Serie A, plus, below:
Sebastian Giovinco's Toronto FC Salary vs. Serie A's Top Earners
Footballer Euros/Pounds Per Year Canadian Dollars Per Year
Daniele De Rossi (Roma) €6.50/£4.96M $8.99M
Gonzalo Higuain (Napoli) €5.50/£4.19M $7.61M
Mario Gomez (Fiorentina) €4.25/£3.24M $5.88M
Philippe Mexes (AC Milan) €4/£3.05M $5.53M
Riccardo Montolivo (AC Milan) €3.50/£2.67M $4.84M
Sebastian Giovinco (Juventus) €2.20/£1.68M $3.04M
Sebastian Giovinco (Toronto FC) €6.06/£4.62M $8.39M
Credit: GianlucaDiMarzio.com, La Gazzetta dello Sport and Sportsnet.
In all walks of life, people tend to give you a pat on the back or a compliment when you tell them you are leaving your current workplace for a new job with higher pay.
Yet, this standard generally does not apply to professional sports, perhaps a clear example of tall poppy syndrome.
There is nothing wrong with Giovinco setting himself up financially by pre-planning for post-football life, understanding the trade-off is abandoning European football.
You know you would take the money.
Giovinco's Toronto FC salary would be the second-richest contract in Serie A, illustrating how he may have perceived the offer as once-in-a-lifetime.
Also, take into consideration that Giovinco was at Parma last year, or year before, and was doing well, but instead of staying there, he moved back to Juve with the intention of trying yet again to fight for a place at the Serie A champions, in an effort to prove himself once again. However, with the purchase of Tevez, etc... he is now a bench choice and probly can't be arsed to go back to the likes of Parma again and thus, has taken the Big Contract from Toronto which as shown above, would be second-highest in the Italian Serie A.
Again, that seems a pretty easy decision for a player in Giovinco's position.
Atalanta: German Denis; €1.2 million/£917,042
Cagliari: Daniele Conti; €800,000/£611,361.
Cesena: Guido Marilungo; €400,000/£305,680.
Chievo Verona: Alberto Paloschi; €700,000/£534,941.
Empoli: Francesco Tavano; €300,000/£229,260.
Genoa: Alessandro Matri; €1 million/£764,202.
Hellas Verona: Luca Toni; €1 million/£764,202.
Lazio: Miroslav Klose; €2/£1.53 million.
Palermo: Stefano Sorrentino; €900,000/£687,782.
Parma: Antonio Cassano; €1.5/£1.15 million.
Sampdoria: Sergio Romero; €1.7/£1.30 million.
Sassuolo: Domenico Berardi; €1.1 million/£840,622.
Torino: Fabio Quagliarella; €750,000/£573,151.
Udinese: Antonio Di Natale; €1.3 million/£993,463.
As seen above; he doesn't have much options in Serie A, plus, below:
Sebastian Giovinco's Toronto FC Salary vs. Serie A's Top Earners
Footballer Euros/Pounds Per Year Canadian Dollars Per Year
Daniele De Rossi (Roma) €6.50/£4.96M $8.99M
Gonzalo Higuain (Napoli) €5.50/£4.19M $7.61M
Mario Gomez (Fiorentina) €4.25/£3.24M $5.88M
Philippe Mexes (AC Milan) €4/£3.05M $5.53M
Riccardo Montolivo (AC Milan) €3.50/£2.67M $4.84M
Sebastian Giovinco (Juventus) €2.20/£1.68M $3.04M
Sebastian Giovinco (Toronto FC) €6.06/£4.62M $8.39M
Credit: GianlucaDiMarzio.com, La Gazzetta dello Sport and Sportsnet.
In all walks of life, people tend to give you a pat on the back or a compliment when you tell them you are leaving your current workplace for a new job with higher pay.
Yet, this standard generally does not apply to professional sports, perhaps a clear example of tall poppy syndrome.
There is nothing wrong with Giovinco setting himself up financially by pre-planning for post-football life, understanding the trade-off is abandoning European football.
You know you would take the money.
Giovinco's Toronto FC salary would be the second-richest contract in Serie A, illustrating how he may have perceived the offer as once-in-a-lifetime.
Also, take into consideration that Giovinco was at Parma last year, or year before, and was doing well, but instead of staying there, he moved back to Juve with the intention of trying yet again to fight for a place at the Serie A champions, in an effort to prove himself once again. However, with the purchase of Tevez, etc... he is now a bench choice and probly can't be arsed to go back to the likes of Parma again and thus, has taken the Big Contract from Toronto which as shown above, would be second-highest in the Italian Serie A.
Again, that seems a pretty easy decision for a player in Giovinco's position.
Lee
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Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
While I wouldn't identify as a Cambridge fan necessarily, I agree with her sentiment.
Considering Cambridge are in for a reported 1.7 million pound payday from one extra game when they usually make just under that per year, it's hard not to be very happy for them.
Considering Cambridge are in for a reported 1.7 million pound payday from one extra game when they usually make just under that per year, it's hard not to be very happy for them.
So I guess alot of ppl had to eat their words after LTAO at ManUtd yesterday... Chelsea, ManCity, Tottenham all knocked out of the FA Cup by lower league teams.
On that note:
I saw an article on Goal.com, which was regarding the possibility of the FA Cup winner being given a UCL berth. The article seems to have been taken down, but the writer was arguing against it.
Personally, I think it would be a splendid idea, and would cause the big teams to take it more seriously, which would only increase the interest in the competition as a whole.
If anything, I wouldn't give the FA Cup winner a straightforward berth, rather I'd have the FA Cup Winner vs the 4th Placed EPL team in a play-off for the 4th UCL spot, which would make things interesting.
I understand the notion of 'romantic'/'nostalgic' stuff happening as with Wigan and Portsmouth in recent years. However, I don't see why such wouldn't occur even if the top teams take the competition more seriously... I just think that such a prize of a UCL berth might make the EPL as a whole even more competitive, especially in the top half of the table...
Your thoughts, guys?
On that note:
I saw an article on Goal.com, which was regarding the possibility of the FA Cup winner being given a UCL berth. The article seems to have been taken down, but the writer was arguing against it.
Personally, I think it would be a splendid idea, and would cause the big teams to take it more seriously, which would only increase the interest in the competition as a whole.
If anything, I wouldn't give the FA Cup winner a straightforward berth, rather I'd have the FA Cup Winner vs the 4th Placed EPL team in a play-off for the 4th UCL spot, which would make things interesting.
I understand the notion of 'romantic'/'nostalgic' stuff happening as with Wigan and Portsmouth in recent years. However, I don't see why such wouldn't occur even if the top teams take the competition more seriously... I just think that such a prize of a UCL berth might make the EPL as a whole even more competitive, especially in the top half of the table...
Your thoughts, guys?
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
It's a stupid idea.
There's something about rewarding the runner-up?
Thought it was only the winner gets the CL spot. Though, I'd have an extra play off where the FA Cup winner plays the 4th Placed PL team to see who gets through.
IF the FA Cup winner is already in the top 4 in the league, then the top 4 automatically get into the UCL.
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United season ticket holders being forced to pay full price for a match arranged on a short notice because United were too limp to win away. Threatening fans if they don't comply is ridiculous to me. Then again, everybody signed up knowing the deal. Guess the fans just have to suck it up.
United season ticket holders being forced to pay full price for a match arranged on a short notice because United were too limp to win away. Threatening fans if they don't comply is ridiculous to me. Then again, everybody signed up knowing the deal. Guess the fans just have to suck it up.
