Does the WWE really need TNA guys?

[XxXEGfanXxX]

I posted this thread because on mostly a lot of threads people say "we need AJ styles" or "we need samoa joe". I as a fan don't think we need TNA guys because ok they may have the more athletic roster but the WWE has the better roster as in fanbase and selling ppvs. I also think that if a TNA guy was to come to the WWE they'll just fade out like most newcomers do anyway. So do you guys think we need TNA guys?

 

[Razor]

No. No, they don't. TNA seems to believe they need old WWE wrestlers, but the WWE doesn't need anything TNA has ever produced. That's like saying the WWE needs to try a Clockwork Orange House of Horrors match. No, they don't. The WWE can do just fine.

What would they do with AJ Styles? Samoa Joe? Nothing. The main-events are already clogged, the mid-card doesn't need anyone else, honestly. AJ Styles and Samoa Joe would either get a push to a clogged main-event or wallow in the mid-card. No need for that. We already have Morrison and Benjamin to do all the wallowing for the entire rosters.

 

[HBK-aholic]

WWE doesn't 'need' any of TNA's stars, and to say they do is laughable. However, that's not to say the WWE couldn't use them. AJ Styles is one of the best in TNA and I could see him doing well in the WWE as well. But we don't need him; the WWE are doing fine without him and will continue to do so.

 

[Wrestlefan27]

Why are you guys saying "we" when you refer to the WWE? Do you work for the company? I'm a fan of the WWE as well as TNA, but I don't say "we" when I refer to either of them. To be a fan of a company is one thing, but to identify yourself with it is just seems like an impractical level of fanaticism.

As far as the topic goes, the WWE has plenty of talent. It's the way that the talent is used that has people complaining. Angles and matches are growing more stale every day.

If anything, it's TNA that needs more talent. Regardless of whether or not it comes from WWE. It's roster is full of aged WCW stars. People complain about how TNA gives away PPV matches on Impact, but it's because they really don't have that much big name talent they can utilize, unless you want to see the old men who can barely go wrestle each other. They need their best talent on tv so that they can put on big matches and have great showings. How else will they get a fan base to buy the PPV?

In any case, the problem with both companies is less about talent and more about how the talent is used. Booking and creative are the problems.

 

[jdizzle]

I am not sure if either of you no but the wrestler over in FCW Kaval is none other than Low Ki who also went under the ringname Senshi over in TNA. He was a very accomplished wrestler over there and I think that if Vince wants to pick up the ratings he should focus on putting the best possible matchups out every week. I am not saying that we need ppv level matches on each brand but give us something more than the HHH vs Orton revenge angle. I think that Vince already is well aware that his shows are going to shit and is working hard to put out something better. Unfortunately when you have complete control and your Son-in-Law wants the title there is only so much room for the other talented wrestlers to step up. So yes bringing in TNA workers could be good for the WWE and would also give a rub to TNA even though that is not want WWE wants it is what would be good for the business. By the way i am pretty sure that Kaval will be called up to Smackdown soon to fued with Mysterio since it was Rey that asked for him to be looked at.

 

[GSM]

No WWE is in no need of TNA guys,

First of all, the WWE is the No. 1 wrestling company which is defining the business.

TNA may be the No. 2 but they´re way behind WWE, ok they beat ECW a few times , so what ?

The WWE doesn´t need anybody but the talent that it is already on their roster.

They have the future stars like Kofi Kingston, Ted Dibiase Jr. and MVP.
They have the older wrestlers and living legends like HBK , The Undertaker and others and they have the great wrestlers that still have much to give like Chris Jericho, Christian and heck even Kane.

Would it be some fresh air in the WWE product if they had Sting , AJ Styles and Samoa Joe ?
Probably, but they certanly don´t need them, cause if they would they would have employed them a long time ago.

 

[Chill]

Generally no, WWE do not need TNA guys, though TNA seem to kill for WWE talent. TNA is like a burial ground for old WWE talents...most of whom are washed up. That's not to say some of TNA's roster could not come in handy to Vince, guys like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe or even Kurt Angle (only perhaps working a reduced schedule similar to 'Taker and HBK) could all offer someting to WWE imo. Though WWE do not need these people, they have an abundance of equally talented performers, particularly around the mid card who need attention before even thinking of bringing in more guys from TNA...

I am not sure if either of you no but the wrestler over in FCW Kaval is none other than Low Ki who also went under the ringname Senshi over in TNA.

Yes, Low Ki could be effective in WWE...though emphasis is on the could be part because obviously Vince will decide either to bury him upon his introduction in order to eradicate anything Low Ki ever did in TNA or any other promotion or perhaps he may utilize his talents from the get go which of course is what he should do. As suggested a feud with Rey could be very entertaining....

 

[HartDynasty=Ratings]

I wouldn't say that the wwe "needs" any tna talent. I do however think that the wwe could actually benefit from having some of the talent over there. For example:

1) The Motor City Machine Guns - Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley are two of the best (imo) that TNA has to offer. If brought over to the WWE they could really bolster a tag team division that is getting better but still needs atleast one more solid tag team and MCMG would be the perfect fit. They would bring freshness to the product and could potentially set up some great feuds. MCMG vs. The Colons, MCMG vs. Legacy, MCMG vs. The Hart Dynasty. All would be excellent, they are great in the ring and pretty damn good on the mic as well, but creative would probably just bury them anyways.


2) Matt Morgan - Ok, so they did have Morgan but totally dropped the ball when it came to giving him a gimmick that would work. The whole stuttering gimmick is ******ed (i don't care who they give it to). Morgan definitely has the look, ability, and mic skills to make it in the WWE, and imo he could be HUGE. Just Imagine the feuds that he could have with guys like Orton, HHH, HBK, Edge, Punk, MVP, Taker, Hardy...talk about freshness in the main event scene. They could build him up like they did Lesnar before he left, he truly could be an unstoppple force for a while. Or how about this...have Punk complete his heel turn (which is awesome btw) then sometime down the road, once he is full blown heel enter Matt Morgan as his big backup. They are together for a LONG while, by this time Punk is a Mega Heel, and Morgan finally gets tired of Punk putting everyone down for not being Straight Edge including Morgan who reveals to Punk that he himself likes to drink or whatever and have a good time too sometimes and that he should loosen up and have some fun once in a while. Punk attacks him and then boom, you have a major feud between the two that could last a good while. Culminating in Morgan taking the title from Punk at Wrestlemania 27 (estimating Morgan's contract w/ TNA)

3) Kurt Angle - All I have to say about this is Angle-HBK 3???

 

[Aldo_The_Apache]

3) Kurt Angle - All I have to say about this is Angle-HBK 3???

I think there already was an Angle-Hbk 3. Didn't they have an Ironman match on Raw.

I don't really think the wwe needs tna guys. They've got a ton of great talent, just a lot of it is meandering around with nothing to do. Bringing in anyone, even AJ, or Joe would be exactly the same as bringing in some young talent from OVW or wherever, they'd have to make the mainstream audience familiar with them...

 

[HartDynasty=Ratings]

I think there already was an Angle-Hbk 3. Didn't they have an Ironman match on Raw.

As far as I know we had Angle-HBK 1 at Wrestlemania 21, we had Angle-HBK 2 at Vengeance 2005....and then Kurt jumped ship to TNA. You may be thinking of the HBK-Cena hour long match although it was necessarily an iron man.

 

[mrstlouis]

I think there already was an Angle-Hbk 3. Didn't they have an Ironman match on Raw.

As far as I know we had Angle-HBK 1 at Wrestlemania 21, we had Angle-HBK 2 at Vengeance 2005....and then Kurt jumped ship to TNA. You may be thinking of the HBK-Cena hour long match although it was necessarily an iron man.

WWe does not need tna talent at all. . also it was 30 minute iron man match on 3 hour raw the hbk vs angle did & it was a draw.

 

[flaboy]

hell no and i repeat hell no unless they want to bring back someone from thna who has already made a name in wwe like angle, booker, or the the dudleys. but one thing that many people dont know is that tna is made of not only wcw ecw and wwe guys that are known but also wwe guys that are not known over 70 percent of tnas roster is from another major corporation, for example aj, samoa joe, kaz etc got there starts in wwe but never made it, then went to tna when jj started the company and he prolly said what the hell ill take em and strap a belt around them kinda like what he does know so he could build them up and build up to get bigger stars like sting, nash, hall, etc. dont get me wrong tna has made some great stars like amazing red, matt sydal(evan bourne), and others. now to bring in joe would be terrible id rather watch my self piss up a rope then watch his fat ass in the ring, i mean c mon he slaps u around, slams his belly on u puts u on his shoulders and thats it then he puts a plastic knife in your mouth and thretens to kill u, great job joe u managed to make another person change the channel. now aj on the other hand might be worth going for only if wwe didnt already have bourne, butt wwe already tried aj out and it didnt work so there u go but hey maybe one day in the future right i mean they keep bringing back goldust and never do anything with him but make him more of a joke hell bring the old goldust back or just bring back dustin rhodes, but thats another topic. so no wwe does not need any tna guys they need to worry bout there own stars and build them up (kendrik).

 

[Blifferd221]

TNA is getting on the map, and wwe may be dening that tna is not competeition, but trust me vince knows it is. it may not be near wcw at its prime but give it some time and it will happen.

 

[KlowdedJujmint15]

No they dont. I honestly believe that if there was another "invasion"(storyline or real), wwe would pull thru.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

This is a crazy thread! Why was it started! TNA was started because when Vince had gained control of all wrestling media, and had very little need for Jeff Jarett and other names on the roaster. Other guys jumped shipped because they didn't like where their character was going. Booker jumped ship because he got pushed right into the main event status. So no WWE doesn't need TNA talent, because they have a lot more up and coming talent that they are developing on. TNA needs a monday night slot for their tv show. Then we can discuss if WWE needs TNA talent... Till then, TNA is just a classier version of ECW.

 

[tfwilliams]

I dont think wwe will sign any because if its a well known tna wrestler like aj styles then more people are most likely gonna tune onto tna

 

[tLight]

TNA can’t use their stars properly, and the WWE would just ruin them.

Anyone remember ugh Brandon Walker? (Wasn’t that Chris Harris in ECW?)

Look at Christian since returning to the WWE. They put him on ECW, what a slap in the face, he was the TNA Champ (twice?) he was at the top of the mid card ready to break into the main event in the WWE before jumping ships, and they award him with the ECW title when he returns, only to have him drop it to Dreamer, bwahaha yeah ok.
He might as well have come back and won the Divas Title.

Why wasn’t he sent to Smackdown to join in on the Hardy/Edge Feud? He could have been the mystery person in the black car that ran Jeff and his girl friend off the road, but instead we got Matt Hardy. He could of been put right back into the main fold of the company, with Edge only to turn on him to capture the gold later this year.

And yeah I said the Gold not that second places lower than the US, IC, and Women’s title known as the ECW title. Do you notice how the worst two belts in the company are both silver? Those being the ECW title and the Diva's Championship (although I won’t lie and say I don’t love Maryse)

Monty Brown was another example of what jumping to the WWE from TNA will do for you, he was in the main event title picture in TNA, went to the WWE and he also landed on ECW, in that whole New Breed vs. Original ECW story lines, and if I remember correctly the only person whose still employed by the WWE who was in the Story line is Mike Knox. Although Monty Brown had to leave the company due to family issues, he did have a very good run with the WWE.

Either way anyone who makes the jump usually gets buried and under used, and as we all know the WWE has plenty of those people.

I think the only reason the people who are either fired or leave the WWE to go to TNA become so popular is because their going from an internationally know promotion. Sure picking up WWE castaways is great for TNA and their ratings in the beginning; they do even less with these people long term.

Kurt Angles is probably the only person who has gone to TNA that could return to the WWE without getting ruined or buried, anyone else does not stand a chance.

 

[WWEFreak]

IMO i think wwe do need TNA stars... Mainly because they need fresh fueds between people and a faster way to push stars into the ME.. With newer superstars to feed off of, Kofi, Morrison, Miz ect... could make it into ME status in no time.... Randy Orton would have a better way on working on his ring and mic skill and develope a heel scheme and probably get some more Legacy recruit... TNA superstars would bring in Fresh faces and heels and storylines would be more interesting.. Matches would be better instead of that same HHH vs RO that we've seen time and time again... then HBK and Undertaker would be able to retired more smoothly

 

[ipswichicon80]

WWE should concenterate on booking the over whemeing amount of talent it already has rather than sign TNA stars. And let's face it if they did sign TNA stars they would be froced to work their way up from the bottom as WWE considers any acheviements in TNA meaninless(a bit like TNA themsevs). I don't agree with this policy, but thats the way WWE works.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

TNA is getting on the map, and wwe may be dening that tna is not competeition, but trust me vince knows it is. it may not be near wcw at its prime but give it some time and it will happen.

How do you figure that TNA is competition for the WWE when Raw outdraws Impact in ratings by an average of more than 3 to 1 nearly each week? And who knows how much they outdraw TNA on an international basis. WWE's C show, namely ECW, routinely beats Impact in the ratings each week. Not by much, but the fact that the worst of the three brands is able to beat TNA doesn't say much for the TNA product.

As to the question, the answer is a definitive no. WWE could take some wrestlers from TNA and make them into stars, but they certainly don't need anyone from TNA. Simply put, if Vince wanted to, he'd take his big ass checkbook down to TNA, make offers to everyone, and I promise that at least half the TNA locker room would jump ship in a heartbeat.

 

[tLight]

How do you figure that TNA is competition for the WWE when Raw outdraws Impact in ratings by an average of more than 3 to 1 nearly each week? And who knows how much they outdraw TNA on an international basis. WWE's C show, namely ECW, routinely beats Impact in the ratings each week. Not by much, but the fact that the worst of the three brands is able to beat TNA doesn't say much for the TNA product.

As to the question, the answer is a definitive no. WWE could take some wrestlers from TNA and make them into stars, but they certainly don't need anyone from TNA. Simply put, if Vince wanted to, he'd take his big ass checkbook down to TNA, make offers to everyone, and I promise that at least half the TNA locker room would jump ship in a heartbeat.

and as we all know, Vince would rather make his talent from the ground up in FCW, than bring them in from somewhere else. Not to mention that none of the gimics currently being used in TNA would really translate to the WWE.

 

[Dr. Stinger A. Zoidberg]

In a way, yes they do. But not people like Joe,Roode,Storm,Booker,etc...Im talking about people like Kurt,Sting,Nash,Steiner,AJ...They need them because they can give the WWE back that "edge" it had before. It could equal in some great feuds( Can you imagine AJ vs.Jericho or Sting vs.HBK?) Talk about epic. They also need them because the way VKM sees it, Big Stars=Ratings...Ratings=Money. Yea they do need some of TNA's stars but not all of them.

 

[Spunky]

No, No the WWE does not need anyone from TNA.

Because with one exception, Kurt Angle. Every member of the TNA are either good in the ring, And lack charisma. Or are medicore in the ring, And have an abundance of charisma. I'll give you two examples. AJ Styles is incredible to watch inside the ropes, On the outside, And on top on them. Yet he always produces, What feels like a forced promo. My other example would be Sting, He is electric when he has a microphone in his hand, And hang on every word of his unmistakeble voice, But now he's now not a very entertaining worker.(well to me)

 

[tLight]

Rumor has it the TNA World Title is at the same level as the ECW Title, either way their not as credible as the World or the WWE Title. I wont count a title held by Jeff Jarret that wasnt a tag title or mid card title as credible, ever.
That being said bringing more people in from TNA wont do the WWE any good, because they already have top notch talent. The only person I would want to see go back to the WWE is Kurt Angle. He was a star when he was in the WWE, and is the only star in TNA that would be worth bringing back to the WWE.