Does the WWE need to change it up?

[thesacredcow]

Edge has been a heel for something like five years now. Yeah he's a great and he's still got heat on him, but would he benefit from a face turn?

Triple H, face for about three years now, in my mind desperately in need of a major heel turn.

I guess my question is do you think the WWE needs to start shaking up the roster in terms of heels and faces? Do you think it should be done with more regularity? And who would you have turn face or heel?

 

[Tenta]

I don't know if that's the problem, so much as the WWE has saturated so much of its talent in the past three or so months.

The reason that the WWE installed this brand split was to keep certain faces from getting oversaturated on the market. Ultimately, it's part what took down the WCW. WCW went down because so much of it's talent was being displayed for five hours a week, every week, and the people got sick of the faces. I believe, more than anything, that if the WWE plans on really enforcing this whole brand split, that the issue will be remedied.

Unfortunately, that means for the WWE that a certain amount of its wrestlers are going to have to take a break for a little while. Leaving Triple H off of television was by far the smartest decision the WWE could have made. I actually do agree that he could benefit from a heel turn, as he simply plays a heel so much better. His character is not the Family man, nor is it the guardian to the McMahon family. His character which he works best at is a man obsessed with the WWE championship. Maybe you could have him admit once he gets back that he married Steph to get closer to the title. Have him admit it was all a lie, and have him turn heel. Simply enough, Triple H does not work well as a face, but as a heel, he is still one of the best around.

As for John Cena, I'm not sure it was a good idea to have him come off of television the night after what happened to him, but the WWE can still redeem the situation. Have him show signs of having a concussion in the ring, slurred speech or what have you (who knows, maybe his promos will get better). Then, have him face the Big Show at Judgment Day. During the match, John starts to get rubbery legs, and starts to show signs that he is in really bad shape. Big Show gives him that knockout punch, and maybe that puts him out for a little while. While he's in the hospital, build up a face to eventually take the title off of Randy Orton. My hope? Well, I'd love to see it go to this man....

Ok, so MVP is built into a program with Randy Orton, beats him at Summerslam, and John Cena comes out to congratulate MVP... And then attack him.

John Cena comes out the next night, complaining how when he was out, no one cared about him. They turned on him, and they went with the new flavor of the month, MVP. All he does is sacrifice for the fans, and they still continue to boo him wherever he goes. And they all jump on someone elses bandwagon. He tells them that without him, they wouldn't even be here right now, as he is the only true star in the WWE. This builds up to a John Cena/MVP feud, which can have a blow off match at Survivor Series, with Cena winning and portraying a heel champion....

Those are the only two I'd turn at this moment. Otherwise, I'd simply make sure that certain talent doesn't get oversaturated between the two brands. That could ultimately lead to a world of hurt for the WWE.

 

[HATECHOIR]

Edge does need a Face turn he is sitting on the fence as a heel and the only reason he ever got heat was Vickie!

Jericho is the only TRUE heel they have right now, he generates REAL heel heat!

HHH on the other hand everyone keeps saying he is bad as a face, but the ratings say otherwise, and they all seem to forget that during his last heel run he got cheered 90% of the time! He is in the same boat that Austin/The Rock were in, it dont matter what he says, or does to anybody people are gonna cheer him! Certain guys get to that level and thats where they stay, if he turned on the family right now you would all cheer cause the family (with the exception of Shane/Linda) are borderline heels anyway!

Same with Cena as a face, EVERYbody keeps on complaining turn him heel, the second they do, he will get more cheers than he ever has!

Wrestling use to be Black/White, Good/Bad, and Face/Heel, but ever since the nWo came out, there is a new "grey" area that makes it more like Face/"Popular" Heel/Heel....Orton, and Edge are prime examples of the heel that gets cheered.

You need guys that people have NEVER liked, or disliked, its easier to make a nobody hated than to turn people back and forth, half the time just for the sake of turning them with no warrant for doing so!

 

[crimsonmask49]

i don't think i'd like to see edge as a face. he seems more comfortable as a heel and does really well.

 

[Kid A]

i think Edge getting a face run would be pretty good, and i agree that Jericho is by far one fo the best Heels you're going to see.

its not so much the angles that need changed, its just the platform and the execution. there are plenty of of talented guys on the roster so i think they should be able to have entertaining shows each week.

ultimately i think each brand's show should have some other brand's superstars in matches each week. sometimes having 1 or 2 big RAW names could boost ratings or the overall feel for an ECW episode. or having an ECW guy and a RAW guy on smackdown. i just think the variety in who is on each episode would be pretty good. i know its being done but on a consistent basis i think it'd be pretty cool, plus it'd keep the competition up.

 

[drummerboy144]

the thing is that people dont cheer heels cause they want is cause the faces are not good enough to be cheered ,example i didnt booed triple h in the late 90s cause he was a heel i booed him i couldnt stop cheering the rock(one of his major rivals) i'm not saying triple h is not a good heel because he is one of the best at it but you had such good faces back then(rock,stone cold,etc) you didnt need to cheer the heel ,but now you watch edge vs cena and you are so sick of him you have no other choice than to boo him and cheer edge,wwe needs to creat more over faces and that will lead to better heels cause you will hate the guy that hates your favorite wrestler,but they expect fans to cheer batista(one of the worst wrestlers of all time) over orton or triple h(which is good but boring as a face) over an up and coming heel that performs good at the mic and in the ring ,thats the problem in my opinion

 

[taker4ever]

HHH is beyond stale at this point and NEEDS a Heel turn I can defintely see Orton or Edge turning Face too but lets not turn them all at one time, there is NO chance of Cena turning heel imo too much of a risk to the MASSIVE Merchandise sales WWE gets off of him

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

There are a few things that could be changed.

HHH becoming Heel
It's going to happen. Because HHH says he always wants to be a heel and it's easier for him than being a face. I say next time he comes back, he turns bad and feuds with Batista.

Edge as a Face
This could happen. Jericho is a much better heel now and turning Jericho face would be goofy at this point. I say Edge gives a 'I beat Cena. It's all I really wanted to do. Now, the old Edge can come back' speech. Then Jericho comes out and says, "Why Edge? Why pander to these fans? They don't like you. You beat their hero. Don't pander to their shallow and pedantic ways.' Then Edge can go, 'Well half the people don't like him anyway, and besides NOBODY likes you! All you do is run down legends and beat up on guys way past their prime. How about trying a man who's at his PEEK! A man who's champion and a MAN who will soon BE a legend.' And boom goes an Edge face turn.

Cena turning Heel
It's highly unlikely because like what's been mentioned before, Cena sells more merch than anyone on the WWE roster. A bad guy doesn't sell much of anything. Good guys do. Hence why Cena won't be a heel. He could be a tweener, but don't look for him to start downing 12 year old kids, rhyming about how they're stupid to have someone like me as a role model. 'I'm a THUG! I don't care what you think. I bust my ass because it's what I do best. Not because you like it.' That'd be nice. But alas, won't happen.

Morrison face turn
It'd be nice to see him as a good guy. He's got charisma. And that's just fine.

 

[Nate DaMac]

ultimately i think each brand's show should have some other brand's superstars in matches each week. sometimes having 1 or 2 big RAW names could boost ratings or the overall feel for an ECW episode. or having an ECW guy and a RAW guy on smackdown. i just think the variety in who is on each episode would be pretty good. i know its being done but on a consistent basis i think it'd be pretty cool, plus it'd keep the competition up.

no no no no no! along with the writing, all the crossover between brands is whats screwing everything up. and it would make the draft completely unneccisary. the cena heel turn example from earlier is golden! it would also put mvp on the map as a top face. kudos.

 

[BrammaBull]

The only Edge face that would work would be the one who teamed with Christan and did the '5 second pose' and i think he is too far past that. Edge's charcter has a lot of intensity so been a face does not really work for him. The only way to do it is to have him go as a bit of a tweener for a while, maybe not agreeing with the actions of someone on Smackdown but doing nothing about it until it effects him when he turns and does something about it. Cant see it happening for a while, long as he keeps the strap and PROVES he should have the title, until he stops getting handed the title he wont go anywhere!

 

[WunNightStan619]

Well it really could hurt if WWE changed up things a bit..they cant possibly do a worse job than what they are doing now. Edge seems like he wud fit in both rolls cuz he is just that good at both of them. HHH is a heel at heart and i never thought that he should be a face. Wrestling was always most interesting when HHH was a heel. Batista cud also fit better as a heel, i cud see that. But more than anything, since when are all the McMahon's fan favorites? It just doesnt feel right. There should always be at least wun McMahon as a heel. That is also a case where wrestling is interesting...when a McMahon is a heel is not all of them. What happened to the most disfunctional family on television!? lolz

 

[mdc2575]

I like the Cena/MVP/ Big Show thing that JohnTetna said. It would fit perfect with the fact that Cena is filming another movie. The thing about Cena has to be a face due to wwe sales is crap, DX and Horsemen items sold back in the day when they were heels. Same as Eddie's items. If that were all to happen I just would hope that MVP gets in a good mini fued to drop the US title to someone who will hold it for a while. Another member of Legacy possibly.

 

[Nero89]

edge needs to be face kinda like the invasion era face
hhh and punk and cena heel(since im tired of hhh as a face, i hate cena anyway but liked him much better when he was a heel, and b/c punk needs somethin new)
undertaker needs to be the badass again