Do u think John Cena would still get a push if brock lesnar was there?

[thegreatanurag900]

Brock lesnar was the guy wwe was pushing very hardly.i personally think if brock wouldn't had retired than john would hardly got any push because wwe has shown that guy much superior to cena in the past.So what r ur thoughts.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

WWE pushed John Cena is one half of the main event at Backlash 2003 against Brock Lesnar and they were giving him a significant push towards the end of that year as well. Add to the fact that WWE waited a whole year to put the title on Cena after Lesnar left and I think it's pretty obvious that Cena was always in their plans, they were just waiting for the right time.

 

[Alex]

John Cena would still have been pushed just not as much as he was. He probably would have been the number two person in the company (similar to where Triple H is)

He most likely would have been the top guy on the other brand, having good championship reigns and having good matches with other people and being the guy to rely on if Brock was injured.

 

[future admin]

do u think u cud lern how 2 typ?
Cena was being pushed when Lesnar was still around, towards the end, he would definitely be at the same stage if lesnar was still here, but does that matter, Lesnar isn't here, Cena was one of VKM's favourites, he was always gonna be pushed, so yes, he would be at the same place if Lesnar was still here.

 

[The Bloop]

He still would have gotten the push, just maybe a bit slower. His first match against Kurt Angle where he put on a great match showed what the WWE thought of him. I dont think he would be the company's top top dog with Lesnar there though. I think he would have been number 2, kind of like Orton is to Cena at the moment.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Cena was always planned to be a big star in WWE. Ever since his debut against Kurt Angle (where he put on a fight that wasn't a squash match) John Cena was in the public's eye. His heel-like white gangstah gimmick won him over with the crowd and drew in plenty of heat.

Even his move back then was named The F-U (while Lesnar's was called The F-5). It was almost obvious that he would be reigning in as Lesnar's predecessor or at least top rival in the company.

To say Cena would be nothing if Lesnar hadn't left is kind of like saying Batista would be nothing if Golberg hadn't left back then. They got their push from the top guys, it's true. But WWE has a funny way of making stars on a dime, just look at Swagger.

 

[JBK2008]

Cena was eventually going to get a major push, but not to this level I believe had Lesnar never left the WWE. The Backlash 2003 match was a try out of sorts to see how Cena would go over in the main event scene. It wasn't too bad, but I honestly at that time didn't think he's rise this far that fast until after Lesnar left. I would almost go as far as saying the same for Orton and Batista. In a way we all owe Lesnar a thank you LOL.

But in truth, yes Cena would've still gotten a push, but not as hard or as fast at Lesnar ever could've been.

 

[M-Rey845]

i agree with the others in that Cena's main event push was going to happen regardless of Lesnar leaving, and i also agree with the fact that if Lesnar had not left cena wouldnt be getting the same praise as he is now. But one person i do think that would have been effected the most by lesnar not leaving would be Orton, because i heard alotta times before about how Orton's push to the main event was only to make him the youngest world champion ever, booting Lesnar from that spot. And things in the wwe would be alot different to, like maybe no switch to pg, or maybe less cena or edge title reigns. But yeah i dnt really think Cena's main event push was effected by Lesnar's leaving.

 

[DrewCiti310]

Granted Brock was a better wrestler then Cena, but on the mic, Brock was never as good as Cena, so I think Cena would still be where he is. I don't remember Brock for promos.

 

[Devlin]

I personally think that if Lesnar stayed in the WWE, he would have been the person Cena beat for the title instead of JBL. Cena would have beaten Lesnar for the title, Brock would have gotten his rematch, lost & then would have feuded with Batista when he got traded to Smackdown.

I also doubt JBL would have gotten the push he did, because when Lesnar left, there was no real top heel on Smackdown.

 

[ThePh3nomonal1]

Like someone already said in this forum I think it would of affected people like Randy Orton more than Cena because a lot of people may not know but WWE pushed Randy so much because VKM was still sour on how Brock left he wanted him permently removed from all record books like they did with Benoit so they pushed Randy to take the youngest champon title. But on Cena, people forget that through 2003 to 04 Lesnar was playing top heel and it was very clear that Cena was being built as second face to Kurt Angle, But as history will show WWE very much underestimated Cena's "second face"push.

 

[reddevil69]

Cena was already getting over before Brock left. Those jerseys he wore in each city and his rapping were getting a reaction. Cena would have been pushed regardless. Cena has also drawn more money, bumped more buy rates and sold way more merchandise than Lesnar did on his best day in WWE. Lesnar was pushed through the roof, but he still did not come close to Cena's drawing power.

Wrestling is about selling a character or personality, and Lesnar had no charisma, and sucked on the stick..he was a great wrestler with no personality and that is why he stalled as a top guy in the company. I never saw the amount of Lesnar shirts in the crowd as I have Cena shirts over the past five years.

I think Vince saw potential in Brock, but he also saw that it was going to be a lot of work and alot effort from other guys to get him where the WWE wanted him to be.

I think once Vince realized what he had in Cena, he saw dollar signs immediately, and despite the backlash that happened four years ago, he still stuck with him and rammed him down everyone's throat.

 

[Fan_of_Wrestling]

I don't think Cena's push would have been the casualty, I think it would have been guys like Kofi, CM Punk, and Chris Jericho... Yes I know these guys are great, but I think Vince might not have gone with some of the smaller wrestlers he has given pushes too.

 

[eurunks]

He would get a push but he would be no where near he is today.

 

[Ferbian]

I do believe that John Cena would've been big even if Brock Lesnar decided to stick around.

Looking back, Jim Ross discovering John Cena, Ross said it himself, this guy will main event Wrestlemania in the future, so it's quite obvious that John Cena would've gone places no matter what, and I have my doubts John Cena would be this big today if he wasn't even taken into consideration of becoming a huge star around the time Lesnar were still in WWE.

Yes John Cena would've been big no matter what.

 

[maar130]

Well, from what I see I think Cena would be where he is, he was planned at some point to be big, and it showed when He was part of team Angle at Survivor Series befor e his first US Chapionship run, the guys was going places anyway and in the en would have been who takes Brock down.

The two persons that would have been affected the most I think would have been JBL and Orton, since Brock left they tried to find a new hated champion for Smackdown and a younger World Champion for the record books, also has Brock stayed, he would have defeated Goldberg and not the other way around and porbably would have had a feud with Eddie Guerrero for the title again leaving JBL at midcard with no possibilities of getting the title...ever. Orton would have become a Main evente r but his first title run would have come around the time he got his second one, in 2007.

But that is what I think, in reality none knows what would have been if Brock was there, thinks have changed a lot since he was there that it is actually very difficult to say.

 

[Chicago1989]

Cena was destined to be a big star...I can't lie about that. But why was it that they couldn't push Cena while Brock was there? WWE could've easily done that. Cena was main eventing with Brock for only a short amount of time but then he got right back to the mid-card right after Brock destroyed him.

After Brock left at WMXX, WWE decided to push Cena as if they had no other choice, as if they were desperate, as if they hesitated. And besides, WWE wasn't building Cena up to be a main eventer in the first place. You also can't count his feud with JBL a main event push because JBL was never meant to be a main eventer as well.

So had Cena been a big star while Brock was around? He was stuck in the mid-card most of the time but he could've. Hell, there's a handful of guys who wouldn't be big stars if it wasn't for Brock, Austin, Rock, and Goldberg: Randy Orton (He had a similar push to Cena's), JBL, Edge, Batista, etc. Because of this, I will always stick to the belief that these guys would not be where they're at today if it wasn't for Brock Lesnar.

 

[Gerald Brisco]

He would get a push but he would be no where near he is today.

This.

I think he was always going to be a star, However who knows if he would of been the face of the company and the biggest Draw,

I mean look at Lesnar, He had the Intimidation factor, An Awesome Unique Believable Finisher and dropping guys like Hogan and the Rock, 300 odd Pounds and a true sense of the Monster Heel. Infact i think Batista probably benifited more from Lesnar Leaving then Cena in that Regard.

Say what you want about Lesnars In-Ring Skills, he got pushed for all hell and the WWE were left scrambling for a replacement for a guy who was going to take the torch from Steve Austin.

 

[THE SWAG]

cena would have still been a top star, because his mic work was good, and he also has "the look" and the best part about it he wanted to keep wanting to get better, which those matches against hhh, hbk, y2j, and edge, he really learned from those guys, as so he was learning from lesner.

 

[kcordloh]

Before Brock ever hinted at leaving Cena was getting a major push upwards on the card. Don't forget this is the guy that won the Survivor Series 2003 match for his team (including Angle & Benoit) by FUing the Big Show.

No, the people really affected would have been Batista and Eddie Guerro and Orton and JBL.
Had Lesnar never left, JBL would have never gotten that major push IMO. Maybe a US Title push, but I highly doubt he would have been pushed as WWE Champion. Eddie wouldn't have been given the WWE Title because Lesnar/Goldberg would have been for the WWE Title, and after Mania maybe Eddie would have been Lesnar's challenger having defeated Angle at WM. Doubt Eddie would have gotten a push though.

Orton: had Lesnar never left, Orton's first WHC win wouldn't have been such a mess. They would have saved the slow-turn for around the Royal Rumble, allowing Orton to have the Batista treatment in 2005.

As for Batista, not sure if when he would have been majorly pushed. He would have eventually, but I bet he would have eventually.

 

[bioshock]

Had Brock stayed who knows where Batista, Cena & Orton would be now. Remember when Brock was the main event guy so was HBK, HHH, Benoit, Big Show, Angle, Goldberg, Eddie, Booker T, Undertaker and a few others, it always goes along with Edge. It could all be different right now had Brock stuck around, nothing says Cena, Batista, Edge & Orton would be where they are now.

I think Cena though would of been a big star no matter what, cuz during that year he had some nice feuds with Brock & Undertaker. But as for Orton & Batista I think there rise only came because of Brock being gone, hence Orton becoming the youngest champion ever only a few months after Brock left. And then Batista winning the world title a year later at WM vs HHH, in a match IMO it would of been the first 1v1 match of Brock vs HHH. And Batista would still be a mid card guy if any.

 

[Nate DaMac]

I really don't see the reasoning for thinking Lesnar had any affect on Cena's rise. Everyone saw that Cena was gettin huge all the way back to that Survivor Series match. He was still a heel at the time, but was gettin massive face pops. He was going to be a star no matter if Lesnar stayed or not. I will concede that his decision did kinda rush Orton to the forefront, but Cena was the real "Next Big Thing."

 

[SHAYAN_CENA_Y2J]

I think we might have seen a little more waiting for him to become champ , but for god's sake let's accept he would become No.1 guy by now even if Lesnar was in the picture.

He had a great mic skill.The ovation he got at WM XX was the loudest of night IMO.VKM doesn't ignore these points.I think the guy who couldn't be what he is today if Lesnar didn't leave , would be Batista.

After missing Goldberg and Lesnar , they need to come up with some new monster.I think if Lesnar have stayed , Batista would become WHC at WM 21 and then draft to SD and John Cena would become RAW's No.1 guy by th middle of 2006.

In my point of view not only John Cena didn't take advantage of Brock's leaving , but also he was suffered by that fact.

 

[NXTrookie2013]

I think cena would still be a big star. He began a rise at survivor series 2003. As far as i remeber borck lesner wanted cena on his survivor series team but cena said he wouldn't fit in with brock lesner and the huge guys he picked, so he went with team agnle (the face team), and cena was one of the remaining stars, then a few months later at mania he took the us title from the big show in the opening bout. One year later he ened one of the longest wwe title riegns of that time at wm 21, now cena is pretty much the face of the wwe, along with triple h, a couple other stars maybe. As for anyone else, it would be hard to imagine waht it would still be like with lesner.

 

[Jeff]

If anything I think Brock Lesner would eventually turn into a Big Show type character and John Cena would become the face of the company. Also Brock didn't really have a character. Yes he was a beast but we have seen that before, we needed something new and John Cena provided us with that.