Do U agree with Lex Luger dissin ECW and WWE??

[TerrellCow]

Lex Luger has post the following on his My Space blog:

I HAVE BEEN RECIEVING QUESTION AFTER QUESTION ABOUT THE WWE. SO IM GOING TO ANSWER AND TELL EVERYONE ABOUT THE WWE. I PERSONALY THINK THAT THE WWE PRODUCT IS GARBAGE! YOUR CHAMPS FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS HAVE BEEN JOHN CENA. AND REY MYSTERIO? CENA IS A JOKE AND REY HAS THE WORLD TITLE BECAUSE EDDIE DIED AND BECAUSE RANDY ORTON IS A IDIOT. IE RANDY WAS GOING TO WIN THE BELT OFF OF REY BUT HE GOT SUSPENDED. SMACKDOWN IS WORSE THEN THE OLD WCW THUNDER DAYS. COME ON YOU HAVE A WORLD CHAMP THAT IS MAYBE 200 LBS. ITS GARBAGE AND IT IS A SLAP IN THE FACE HAVING THIS PERSON WEARING THE WORLD TITLE. ITS AS SHITTY AS A STORY LINE AS ARQUETTE WINNING THE BELT. AND WHY DO THEY FEEL THE NEED TO BURY BOOKER T.? AND AS FOR CHRIS MASTERS. YOU CANT CATCH LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE TWICE. I JUST THINK THE WWE BOOKERS NEED TO GO BACK TO WRITING DAYS OF OUR LIVES.

ECW:
YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME RIGHT?? THIS IS NOT THE ECW AND IT NEVER WILL BE AS VINCE WILL SHIT ON IT. IT WILL BE A JOKE! WATCH AND LEARN

NOW TO ANSWER ALL OF MY FANS NO I DONT WANT TO MAKE A FULL TIME COMEBACK. IM 48 YEARS OLD. YES THE DOORS TO TNA COULD BE OPEN. I LOVE TNA. THE ATMOSPHERE BACK STAGE AT TNA IS THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS. THE WRESTLERS ARE THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS. TNA IS A FAR BETTER PRODUCT THEN WWE HAS RIGHT NOW.

YES I DO MISS WCW AS I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS GOING TO WIN THE WORLD TITLE OFF OF SCOTT. ERIC WANTED ME TO HAVE A LONG RUN WITH THE TITLE. THANKS FOR KILLING THE IDEA WWE,VINCE AND ALL THE REST OF YOU ASSHOLES!

 

[Bentallica]

yeah, thats uncalled for. Lex, can u say, "Bye Bye, Career!"

 

[Governmentuser85]

The ****** should turn the cap lock off.

 

[5thHorseman]

His comments don't mean shit, it's all based off of a jeolousy complex

YES I DO MISS WCW AS I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS GOING TO WIN THE WORLD TITLE OFF OF SCOTT. ERIC WANTED ME TO HAVE A LONG RUN WITH THE TITLE. THANKS FOR KILLING THE IDEA WWE,VINCE AND ALL THE REST OF YOU ASSHOLES!

That overrated old ass is just pissed because he was one of the only wcw stars Vince didn't sign lol.

 

[Bentallica]

I agree, completely, Governmentuser. Then again, he could've been very, very frustrated

 

[Governmentuser85]

Even in his hay day the guy was a joke.

 

[hothead25]

Luger is a washed up drug addict. He's mad because he's out of work and Vince wants no part of him.

 

[Queen Anne's Revenge]

Luger killed Elizabeth, was always a boring meathead as a wrestler, and is just trash in general.

Fuck Luger.

 

[sKKKiddmarXXX]

You mean to tell me that you don't agree with what Luger said? He just said right there what I think the WWE product has been since Rey won the title. ECW IS a piece of shit. I agree with WWE keeping Booker down. He's the best thing on Smackdown now and they're having him get his ass kicked by Lashley.

I disagree though with Cena being a joke. I'm was tired of Cena as champ, but he can put on some decent entertaining matches. He can't wrestle for shit, but he's entertaining.

I found two things to be very funny. One was the comparison to Chris Masters. The other was when he said "Randy Orton is a idiot". There's one in the mirror for ya.

 

[Ja_204]

Some of it was right and some of it was wrong. Rey should not be champion, and Cena, well, he isn't champion anymore is he? Personally, I would like to see Big Show as champ, that is one man that is being underused

Luger is just muscle and no brains. I heard that he moved to WCW when WWE had made him an offer. In fact, it was a sure deal and when he signed with their rivals, that was a slap in the face.

 

[DakotaDave]

I dont care if I am the only one, but I think he is right! WWE sucks right now! The only thing good about it; is the return of DX. I didnt watch the old DX because I was watching the better product from WCW Monday Nitro, and a lil storyline called nWo!

Boy you are real smart kicking a company when its been gone for years, but it kicked WWE's ass, and probably would again if it were given the chance. Most of you are bashing Luger are just WWE marks; because WCW doesnt exist anymore; though 70-80% of you were huge WCW fans, and dont want to admit it. TNA is the new WCW, and is getting more popular each month. All it takes is one good storyline and WWE maybe seeing de`-ja-vu`!

 

[yeridle]

He sounds so spiteful towards WWE, what a fuckin loser, he sounds like a bitch

 

[Zoltaire]

I don't think anyone ever accused Lex Luger of being bright. Luger was good at one thing - bodybuilding. He wasn't a particularly talented wrestler, nor was he a particularly good interviewer. He's been costing for years off the fact "I was once on WWE", and he's been old and washed up for years.

As for the "oh the old WCW was so awesome" tripe, that's nothing but bunk. WCW had about 2 good years. They had one storyline that they stretched out over that time period, flogged to death and then desperately tried to recreate it and ultimately had nothing. WCW developed virtually no talent of its own. It bought it all from ECW or WWE, and in many cases it bought up people the WWE didn't want anymore.

As for TNA, TNA is a crappier version of WCW. Same old faces that weren't wanted in WWE, a bunch of misfits and malconents, many of whom can't wrestle worth a lick. As for being worried about "TNA" it might as well stand for Totally Negligable Action, because its getting less than 20% of the ratings Raw has and its audience is the same old redneck southern US audience WCW had when the product sucked, only it gets less of that audience. Nor does it have anything resembling the world wide audience of the WWE.

As for ECW as I recall its already getting better ratings than TNA and its had what..two shows? The only thing he said that's remotely true is that Cena is lame, and Mysterio shouldn't be champ.

 

[jeff_hardy]

lex luger sucks i dont know y hes talking about wwe when he cant even get a contract from TNA cuz TNA doesnt want him so fuck lex i got 2 words for him

 

[lapel8533]

I feel sorry for wcw fans. Imagine if wcw had put the wwf out of buissness what a nightmere that would of been. So if they want to vent a little i say let them. I do however think it was funny how vince said he was gona put wcw on the shelf and thats exactly what he did. lol

 

[Kasey]

I don't think anyone ever accused Lex Luger of being bright. Luger was good at one thing - bodybuilding. He wasn't a particularly talented wrestler, nor was he a particularly good interviewer. He's been costing for years off the fact "I was once on WWE", and he's been old and washed up for years.

Yes, he's been old and washed up for years, but he was a hell of a worker during the late eighties and early to mid 90's. He wrestled Flair of all people for nearly an hour at Starrcade '88 and kept the crowd nuts the entire time. He also was solid up through about 1997. Obviously there were some fans who liked him during the phase when he Racked Paul Wight and beat Hogan for the belt. Hogan just had his push crushed and had him swept under the rug to make way for the Sting angle. He didn't get to the top of the business on his amazing mic skills. At one time Lex did live up to his namesake.

As for the "oh the old WCW was so awesome" tripe, that's nothing but bunk. WCW had about 2 good years. They had one storyline that they stretched out over that time period, flogged to death and then desperately tried to recreate it and ultimately had nothing. WCW developed virtually no talent of its own. It bought it all from ECW or WWE, and in many cases it bought up people the WWE didn't want anymore.

WCW developed no talent of its own? Neither did WWE for that matter. They have a majority of their top-tier athletes from other companies as well. Even Triple H wasn't homegrown and he spent his first two years with the same lame ass gimmick he was saddled with in WCW. Vince just changed his name. Benoit. Booker. RVD. If you're talking about developing characters, then cool. I'll buy that. People liked each company for different reasons. I liked WCW better purely from a wrestling fan's standpoint. You typically got more on each card as far as styles of wrestling went and they were the only one out of the big two that did a damn thing with it's cruiserweights.

As for TNA, TNA is a crappier version of WCW. Same old faces that weren't wanted in WWE, a bunch of misfits and malconents, many of whom can't wrestle worth a lick. As for being worried about "TNA" it might as well stand for Totally Negligable Action, because its getting less than 20% of the ratings Raw has and its audience is the same old redneck southern US audience WCW had when the product sucked, only it gets less of that audience. Nor does it have anything resembling the world wide audience of the WWE.

Purely your opinion and I bet there are a hell of a lot of wrestling fans who would beg to differ. I live in Washington. I think WWE sucks donkey penis and TNA's worst show has more quality wrestling than a WWE pay-per-view. Looks like I don't fit into your demographic, do I? You're obviously a screaming WWE mark, and that's cool. Misfits and malcontents? Try better workers who didn't fit into McMahon's crash TV agenda but rather were good at dare I say it...WRESTLING. But let me ask you when the last time the fans at a WWE show started chanting the company's name because they were so psyched about a match. Oh, wait. NEVER. Of course it's getting 20% of the ratings WWE is. It's a four year old company and Vince has been shoveling his s**t nationally since the early eighties. Who do you think would have higher ratings at the outset?

As for ECW as I recall its already getting better ratings than TNA and its had what..two shows? The only thing he said that's remotely true is that Cena is lame, and Mysterio shouldn't be champ.

ECW's getting its ratings because it's nothing more than Tuesday Night Raw. When ECW was on it's own esteem it fared about as well as TNA is. It's funny because I disagree about Rey being champ. He's actually the first guy I've ever seen that can make Mark Henry look something other than awful in the ring. Rey's ability to control a crowd and wrestle a unique match every time out is perfectly okay by me because in the ring he moves fast and puts on solid matches. He's entertaining while WRESTLING. If the size of the wrestler is everything, then maybe we should have Khali wear the strap. He'd shine her up real nice. After all, he's got the size.

 

[Kasey]

lex luger sucks i dont know y hes talking about wwe when he cant even get a contract from TNA cuz TNA doesnt want him so fuck lex i got 2 words for him

Actually, Lex screwed Vince in 1995 and helped kickstart 86 weeks of Nitro owning Raw by showing up on the inagural broadcast. He was also main eventing WWF throughout 1993 and 1994 when the Kliq started coming into fruition.

 

[Akine82]

Zoltaire, what are you, another brainwashed mark have you ever gone to a NON-wwe show in your life, and would you like to know why ECW got those ratings WWE knows ECW fans still want ECW i know i do so the First week we all tuned into it and it was fuckign shit and we all said one more week and thats what we did and guess what it still sucked. and TNA does need to get out of using Old bastards for ratings(granted i am a jeff jarrett fan)
and as for captain Charisma i love him when he was a jobber for weak ass punks in wwe when he won the fans over and VINCE couldnt see it nor could the writers, he left to help TNA and TNA went stupid and hired Stiener and Sting WHY????????????

Luger should be in jail gettign ass raped for killing Miss elizibeth. you ever hear the 911 audio that fucker didnt even try to save her

some things he said hit the mark others way off and Masters is a better wrestler than luger ( granted he is in rehab )

 

[Kasey]

Zoltaire, what are you, another brainwashed mark have you ever gone to a NON-wwe show in your life, and would you like to know why ECW got those ratings WWE knows ECW fans still want ECW i know i do so the First week we all tuned into it and it was fuckign shit and we all said one more week and thats what we did and guess what it still sucked. and TNA does need to get out of using Old bastards for ratings(granted i am a jeff jarrett fan)
and as for captain Charisma i love him when he was a jobber for weak ass punks in wwe when he won the fans over and VINCE couldnt see it nor could the writers, he left to help TNA and TNA went stupid and hired Stiener and Sting WHY????????????

Luger should be in jail gettign ass raped for killing Miss elizibeth. you ever hear the 911 audio that fucker didnt even try to save her

some things he said hit the mark others way off and Masters is a better wrestler than luger ( granted he is in rehab )

TNA hired the older, established stars to get their TV deal. It was either sign the old guys and use them to get the younger guys over on TV, or sign no one and broadcast on the internet (and eventually fold). Luger was (and still may be) a screwed up druggie. But then again, he's definitely not in the minority in the business. Masters moves a lot like a younger Luger, to tell you the truth, man. Watch some of Luger's matches from back in the day.

 

[Steve]

I disagree with what he's saying. He's not looking at the true facts, he's just ripping the hell outta vince and sucking up to TNA.

Screw him!

 

[Zoltaire]

TNA's top guys are Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Sting, Raven, Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Christian and some samoan dude. Oh and they also have Billy Gun, the Road Dog and the Dudley Boys. As for some people praising the lack of gimmicks, they signed a guy with ..one leg, and have a character called "shark boy", mocking that would be far too akin to taking candy from a baby.

As for Luger and Flair having been awesome in 88, I file that under a list of things I couldn't care less about because at the time I was five. And when your memorable "matches" are coming between one and two decades ago, its time to hang it up. That applies to bother Luger and Flair. I do remember Luger being decent but that was in the early 90s, he faded for a reason - age and the fact he was never terribly charismatic or good on the mic.

Anyhow, the list of their "roster" as it is is nothing more than Jeff Jarrett Presents "WcW". The lot of them are old, washed up and stopped being interesting a long time ago. The only one of the above named people that's mildly interesting is Christian, and really he's a talented midcard talent at best. As such I have no problem saying its a vastly inferior product. I've watched it a couple times, and didn't bother for any prolonged period of time because quite simply it bored the hell out of me.

As for the fellow that suggested "Benoit and RVD" were WcW development sucesses? What? I'm pretty sure the credit on those two should go to ECW. Really the only solid wrestler that WcW ever produced on its own was Booker T which says alot about the promotion. I have no qualms saying WWE tended to use ECW as its farm team, but it also brought along quite a few wrestlers on its on. It also did developed characters far better than the other promotions.

Now to clarify one thing "malcontent" was directed at Christian and he was that -unhappy about his spot in the pecking order. Now he's a big fish in a little pond as opposed to fairly small fish in a big pond. Hey if that makes him happy cudos to him, I enjoyed him when he was on Raw but eh there are lots of midcard guys with potential these days.

As for being a "mark" I tend to find that a bit silly. I've watched WWE, WcW, Ecw and even a few episodes of TNA. When I watched WCW for a while it was mostly because I was a big Brett Hart fan, but truthful the promotion didn't have alot else going for it in my opinion and they never even managed to use the Hitman properly. TNA just has the same old WcW hacks that made that show boring, and the same lousy announce team. WWE has better production values, better announcers, better gimmicks, and more polished wrestlers. That being said I had alot of appreciation for the old ECW and its more gritty style, but I'm not going to be terribly upset if the new ECW once they get the kinks worked out of it winds up being half old school ECW and half Raw. Quite likely that would mean ECW would have more staying power this time around, as if nothing else Vince knows the business side of wrestling better than anyone else.

As for Rey Mysterio, I do appeciate his skill as a wrestler. However, his diminutive size is problematic considering the monsters they keep setting him against. I tend to think Batista, the Undertaker or Booker T would be more credible champions on Smackdown. Rey Mysterio just looks out of his weightclass, and he's the sort of guy you expect to be a cruiser weight champion or the US or intercontinental champion perhaps but "heavyweight" champion doesn't seem to fit well especially given his oponents.

 

[Soul Crusher]

TNA's top guys are Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Sting, Raven, Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Christian and some samoan dude. Oh and they also have Billy Gun, the Road Dog and the Dudley Boys. As for some people praising the lack of gimmicks, they signed a guy with ..one leg, and have a character called "shark boy", mocking that would be far too akin to taking candy from a baby.

Anyhow, the list of their "roster" as it is is nothing more than Jeff Jarrett Presents "WcW".

How often do you watch TNA? While the heavyweight division may bear some similarity to WCW (but how about guys like Rhino, Monty Brown, and Ron Killings? Their style is not would you would see in WCW.), the X Division is far closer in style and spirit to the old ECW than the new WWE brand that currently uses the name. Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, Sonjay Dutt, Petey Williams etc. are probably the main reasons why I watch TNA, and they can all go with the best of them. Unless we get some sort of a permutation of the real ECW (highly unlikely: Vince McMahon would have to release his iron claw grip on the brand and grant Paul Heyman complete control), I think TNA will be in it for the long haul. Even if that happens, I don't think TNA has anything to worry about.

 

[ravid wolverine]

How often do you watch TNA? While the heavyweight division may bear some similarity to WCW (but how about guys like Rhino, Monty Brown, and Ron Killings? Their style is not would you would see in WCW.), the X Division is far closer in style and spirit to the old ECW than the new WWE brand that currently uses the name. Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, Sonjay Dutt, Petey Williams etc. are probably the main reasons why I watch TNA, and they can all go with the best of them. Unless we get some sort of a permutation of the real ECW (highly unlikely: Vince McMahon would have to release his iron claw grip on the brand and grant Paul Heyman complete control), I think TNA will be in it for the long haul. Even if that happens, I don't think TNA has anything to worry about.

what are you talking about tna has nothing 2 worry about. if tna does get as big as you think it will , you dont think vince will open the checkbook and buy who ever he wants

 

[Kasey]

what are you talking about tna has nothing 2 worry about. if tna does get as big as you think it will , you dont think vince will open the checkbook and buy who ever he wants

Not likely because a lot of the TNA athletes know he'll just buy them and bury them like he did a lot of the WCW stalwarts including Goldberg, Steiner, and especially Booker T. AJ Styles is one of the best American workers hands down, but up in WWE he'd be lucky to have a spot on the midcard because Vince and Shane's dumbasses hate all cruiserweights not named Mysterio.

 

[Kasey]

TNA's top guys are Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Sting, Raven, Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Christian and some samoan dude. Oh and they also have Billy Gun, the Road Dog and the Dudley Boys. As for some people praising the lack of gimmicks, they signed a guy with ..one leg, and have a character called "shark boy", mocking that would be far too akin to taking candy from a baby.

As for Luger and Flair having been awesome in 88, I file that under a list of things I couldn't care less about because at the time I was five. And when your memorable "matches" are coming between one and two decades ago, its time to hang it up. That applies to bother Luger and Flair. I do remember Luger being decent but that was in the early 90s, he faded for a reason - age and the fact he was never terribly charismatic or good on the mic.

Anyhow, the list of their "roster" as it is is nothing more than Jeff Jarrett Presents "WcW". The lot of them are old, washed up and stopped being interesting a long time ago. The only one of the above named people that's mildly interesting is Christian, and really he's a talented midcard talent at best. As such I have no problem saying its a vastly inferior product. I've watched it a couple times, and didn't bother for any prolonged period of time because quite simply it bored the hell out of me.

As for the fellow that suggested "Benoit and RVD" were WcW development sucesses? What? I'm pretty sure the credit on those two should go to ECW. Really the only solid wrestler that WcW ever produced on its own was Booker T which says alot about the promotion. I have no qualms saying WWE tended to use ECW as its farm team, but it also brought along quite a few wrestlers on its on. It also did developed characters far better than the other promotions.

Now to clarify one thing "malcontent" was directed at Christian and he was that -unhappy about his spot in the pecking order. Now he's a big fish in a little pond as opposed to fairly small fish in a big pond. Hey if that makes him happy cudos to him, I enjoyed him when he was on Raw but eh there are lots of midcard guys with potential these days.

As for being a "mark" I tend to find that a bit silly. I've watched WWE, WcW, Ecw and even a few episodes of TNA. When I watched WCW for a while it was mostly because I was a big Brett Hart fan, but truthful the promotion didn't have alot else going for it in my opinion and they never even managed to use the Hitman properly. TNA just has the same old WcW hacks that made that show boring, and the same lousy announce team. WWE has better production values, better announcers, better gimmicks, and more polished wrestlers. That being said I had alot of appreciation for the old ECW and its more gritty style, but I'm not going to be terribly upset if the new ECW once they get the kinks worked out of it winds up being half old school ECW and half Raw. Quite likely that would mean ECW would have more staying power this time around, as if nothing else Vince knows the business side of wrestling better than anyone else.

As for Rey Mysterio, I do appeciate his skill as a wrestler. However, his diminutive size is problematic considering the monsters they keep setting him against. I tend to think Batista, the Undertaker or Booker T would be more credible champions on Smackdown. Rey Mysterio just looks out of his weightclass, and he's the sort of guy you expect to be a cruiser weight champion or the US or intercontinental champion perhaps but "heavyweight" champion doesn't seem to fit well especially given his oponents.

Shark boy is an inside joke that apparently goes over your head. Notice he doesn't wear any titles? Think about it. Luger was obviously charismatic enough to be one of the top wrestlers during the nineties in both WCW and WWF. He was way over and didn't have to cut promos to do it. Just work. Just because you're not aware of wrestling matches that took place before 1998 doesn't invalidate them or the careers they built. TNA hasn't even used Luger except to have him stand in the ring. Vince's dumb ass let's geriatric wonder Ric Flair embarrass himself in the ring on a weekly basis.

You've watched the TNA show a couple of times? Wow. That's makes your opinions hold water like a collander. I watch all available wrestling every week so I can tell you with full knowledge which company is releasing a fresher product and actually have a well formed argument. It's not a crime to be unhappy with your spot. Especially if you're twice as over as those the retarted writers want to push. It's like trying to do surgery with a butterknife even though you have a scalpel on the table next to you. It's an insulting waste of talent.

Better announcers? Jim Ross is fed what to say and milks the same cliches he has since 1998. Better gimmicks? Spirt Squad here we come. More polished wrestlers? Like Cena, Kane, Khali, and that mongoloid Batista? AJ, Daniels, and Samoa Joe can carry a crowd for 30 minutes without them going to sleep. These top WWE guys can barely make it past five minutes.

You're comment about ECW being like Raw is the worst thing I've ever read. You don't get it and YES, you are a colossal WWE mark because you obviously think McMahon is the biggest genius around. If WWE was so great they wouldn't have to pre-tape Smackdown and edit in crowd pops that are non-existent. Heyman got better productivity out of lesser athletes and ECW built the character that WWF was re-energized around in the late '90s(Stone Cold). WWF also jacked the "Attitude" that ECW was doing in way more copious amounts in a much more solid manner. The only difference was that WWF was a nationally televised show and ECW was an upstart. McMahon is bastardizing what ECW stood for and will not be able to catch that magic unless he gives the reins to Heyman completely and stops "gracing" the ECW show with Cena.