Did The Miz deviate from the script on Raw?

[gasM]

So as we all know, Brock Lesnar interrupted MizTV last week and brutalised The Miz. There's reportedly some heat on Lesnar for tossing chairs on top of Miz, and his F-5 very nearly injured Miz's neck on the couch.

My question is: was Lesnar responding to some ad-libbed behaviour from Miz?

After all, Miz is not a beast of a man. He is a smaller, scrappier guy who has no business going toe to toe with Lesnar. He didn't have to run away, but he should have appeared apprehensive. Yet in the video below, Miz not only stands his ground, but actually shoves Lesnar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUgAT3dYEfA

Miz has slid down the card ever since dropping the WWE Title way back in 2011. His face turn, while providing him with a new lease of life, hasn't pushed him any further up and has not been too well-received. His involvement with Lesnar was probably a one time thing to further the Heyman storyline and get heat on Lesnar. So the Miz yet again didn't stand to gain much from it, other than getting to work with Heyman and Lesnar. Did he try and put himself over by refusing to be intimidated by Brock? And if so, was Lesnar irked and reminding him of his place with the brutality of the beatdown? Personally I think Miz is entitled to show initiative, but I can also see Lesnar's irritation at being used by a lower tier performer to get ahead and possibly why he may have felt disrespected. What are your thoughts?

 

[Sephyxia]

Whether their was legitimate heat between the two or not, It was great! It looked believable and was done very well. WWE needs more heated confrontations like this.

 

[Johnny Scumm]

Interesting question. While its very possible, I don't think he did. The WWE are still trying to get Miz over as a face and having him not look scared against Lesnar can help that. Along with the beating Lesnar gave him, it looked good. However, with the chairs and the rather scary looking F-5, there could be legit hear between or it's possibly the more obvious option of Lesnar being a careless douche. You saw how sloppy and clumsy he was against Cena at Extreme Rules, this is Lesnars forte.

 

[LODemolition]

Eh, I'm not buying into this theory. They're trying desperately to get Miz over as a face, so for him to stand his ground and shove Lesnar without much hesitation was likely in the script. I don't think Lesnar throwing a chair directly at Miz's face was in the script however. It sure made me laugh though. Miz is just annoying as a babyface and it's not going to work. I don't care what they do. Have Flair be his mentor, have him insult heel guests on MizTV, have him play the patriot card against Cesaro...none of it matters. Miz is a natural heel and that's the only way he can get heat from the crowd because he is genuinely unlikable and there's no way around that.

I give it another 3 months tops before they turn him back.

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

I dont think there was anything to it. I actually think the Miz face turn is going okay he just needs an angle to work with. As for Brock getting heat, i doubt it... he is the one of the biggest draws wwe has currently, he would have to break John Cenas neck to have heat in the back... and even if there was heat on him who would have the balls to tell him?!

As for going off script I thought the segment was stale until Vicky came out and then finally brock. Heyman nad Miz kept cutting each other off, I didnt like it, seemed like they were trying to one up eachother but not in a good way.

 

[LODemolition]

I know Taker's not part of the everyday roster, but he clearly wasn't scared of Lesnar after they saw eachother at Lesnar's UFC fight a few years back.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Of course not. They are trying (in vain) to get the Miz over as a face, and how better to do so than to stand up to a man of Lesnar's size, reputation, and degree of devastation, without showing any fear (or common sense frankly). And they are also trying to make Lesnar look like a crazy, wrecking machine who cares about no one or nothing and will do absolutely anything to anyone in the ring. If he's willing to F5 his boss, beat the crap out of Triple H, and brawl with the face of the company, he should certainly have no problem with slapping around and working over a guy like the Miz. Should set up nicely for Punk, Taker, Ryback, or whoever else they choose to put Lesnar against at Wrestlemania.

 

[Spinebreaker]

I don't think Miz's shove was scripted. That looks like genuine surprise on Brock's face, and I simply don't believe he's that good an actor.

or it's possibly the more obvious option of Lesnar being a careless douche. You saw how sloppy and clumsy he was against Cena at Extreme Rules, this is Lesnars forte.

I agree with this. I just think Lesnar's clumsy as hell.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

It probably was part of the script for Miz to stand his ground. I still think WWE is high on him and they didn't want him to look like a jobber since the physical difference is obvious. As far as Lesnar's action, I just think it's a guy who's used to MMA and not used to his wrestling days and was a little too rough. I don't believe it had to do with Lesnar being "mad" at The Miz.

 

[tvcolosi]

Also the bump to the ouside looked brutal... like Lesnar tossed him for real... I've never seen a back bump from being thrown between thw top and middle rope..

Just a thought...

 

[Danger Burger]

I was going to make a thread on this myself. That section of Raw made the night for me, I watched Miz's reaction over three times after I saw it. Beautifully done. Give that man an oscar. Even when you know youre not getting hurt to bad, its tough not to look scared of lesnar.

Doubt theres heat between those guys. Anyone looks cock-eyed at another wrestler and the WZ sources would be on top of that like sunday dinner... I jest. But I see no reason and hear no rumours of it. This one was planned, and Miz got the job done.

Best part of the night. And God bless America.

 

[Pedigree1]

I loved it when Brock f-5'd the shit out of the miz. To me it looked like there was heat between the two. Miz has indeed slid way down the card ever since losing the strap in 2011. As far as the miz going away from the script i think the shoving part was not in the cards.

I think im brave but miz for a smaller guy to shove a dude like Lesnar is just stupid. Miz got exactly what he deserved. Brock IMO is still the most athletically gifted big man ever to be in the WWE. So yes to a degree i believe miz deviated away from the script but not entirely.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Yeah, the answer to that question is a simple no. For one thing, if there was even the slightest hint that anything taking place during this segment involved Miz deviating from the script, it would be all the internet long before now. Sources that wrestling sites frequently rely on for news on what's going on backstage would have reported Miz going off the reservation if it actually happened.

It just happened to be an extremely well done segment with all the players doing a great job with the parts they were given.

 

[AhSpicyDrop]

It was all scripted and was meant to be a way to get Miz over more as a face and get more heat on Lesnar. The whole storyline that they've used with Lesnar since he came back is that he's barbaric.

People talking about it being off-script and the throw that Miz took through the ropes obviously missed the Royal Rumble. Heath Slater and Zack Ryder were both eliminated in ways that made you think they weren't expecting it. It's called acting.

I don't think it was planned for Miz to get hit in the eyeball with a fucking wooden chair, but accidents happen. I'm sure it was planned that Lesnar wreck the set, but let's be honest... it was a light wooden director style chair... It's not like he threw a bank safe at his head.

The only thing all this discussion does is prove the entire group of people involved did a damn good job at hamming it up.

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

I know Taker's not part of the everyday roster, but he clearly wasn't scared of Lesnar after they saw eachother at Lesnar's UFC fight a few years back.

Not saying Undertaker isnt a badass but 1) Brock would destroy taker in real life fight if he wanted to 2) Brock at that time had just gotten out of a fight he had lost, doesnt say much for challenging someone.

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

No, no and no. Its just standrad logic from WWE, if he's face he's not going to run from anything even monster like Lesnar, if he is heel(especially if cowardly heel witch is almost always the case) he would run even from small guys like Rey Mysterio. And Miz looked good. Nobody would believe he could stand toe-to-toe to Lesnar but he looked very good in that segment.

 

[MattRhys20]

I must admit the first thing I did when I saw Lesnar pick up Miz for the F5 was say to myself 'god I hope he doesn't hit Miz's head on the couch'. The angle that the couch was placed, if Miz's head had landed on the corner of it, god know what could have happened as a result.

So something tells me that this was all an accident (at least in terms of the F5), Brock just got things a little wrong, perhaps the couch was meant to go out the ring completely and Miz just jumped the gun in hitting him from behind

 

[akathelaw]

Yeah, great segment. It looked legit, like a real fight between the two. I think that Miz getting some shots in on Lesnar was really, really important. Miz headlined WrestleMania against John Cena only 2 years ago. Had he appeared afraid of Lesnar, it would send a message to casual fans that the current crop of Main Eventers can't compete with the big stars of the past like Lesnar. On Raw 1000 there was a great moment where Daniel Bryan responded to The Rock's "hobbit" taunts by looking him in the eye and stepping closer. It made Bryan appear not afraid to fight The Rock, I mean after all Daniel Bryan competes for World Titles in WWE so for him to be afraid of a former World Champion reflects poorly on every wrestler currently on the roster.

As far as Lesnar being clumsy, I'll admit that it was hard to watch him hit that F5 so close to the upturned couch. No wrestler deserves to take unnecessary risks that could have life altering consequences.

 

[Fated_Sin]

I know Taker's not part of the everyday roster, but he clearly wasn't scared of Lesnar after they saw eachother at Lesnar's UFC fight a few years back.

the reason for that LODemolition is cause whether he's beat up or not and whether brock likes it or not Taker could do MMA just as easy. He's already a great striker and is very skilled at submission. In a match of pure talent Undertaker could very well punk out 'The Beast' and as far as the miz segment goes yeah he was too close to that couch...Botch Lesnar seems to be back in place of Brock....someone get this guy a trainer....

 

[Kombuchis]

the reason for that LODemolition is cause whether he's beat up or not and whether brock likes it or not Taker could do MMA just as easy. He's already a great striker and is very skilled at submission. In a match of pure talent Undertaker could very well punk out 'The Beast' and as far as the miz segment goes yeah he was too close to that couch...Botch Lesnar seems to be back in place of Brock....someone get this guy a trainer....

That Undertaker could punk out Lesnar based on talent is utter nonsense. Mark Callaway is a near 50 year old man who has never in his life had a competitive legitimate MMA fight against a decent opponent. He was presented with the opportunity to take part in legitimate MMA fights between 99 and 03 and didn't. Simply because it appears he can throw his hands and knows submission manouvers in pro wrestling means absolutely nothing in a real MMA fight.
I get wrestling fans appreciation of the Undertaker and dislike of Lesnar but to suggest a man nearing 50 who can't work a full wrestling schedule and has never had a competitive licensed fight in his life could beat a collegiate wrestling champion and an established MMA heavyweight champion is utter nonsense.
If you were to watch the top heavyweights in the UFC (of which Lesnar was once among them) and honestly appraise their performances against ex wrestlers and guys of Mark Callaways inexperience and limitations then the only conclusion is that Brock Lesnar would put Callaway on his back and absolutely hammer him. To suggest otherwise is kayfabe worshipping idiocy.

 

[Code-Breaker]

How i see it is.

A 'HEEL' Big Show panics when he is informed he will be facing Kane. A Man known for (so-called) "Destruction".

A 'FACE' Miz simply accepts his situation and decides to advance Brock, Also known for "Destruction".

I think it's all scripted and it's a simple heel/face gimmick.

 

[sanefan_har]

It was definitely not unplanned. Miz is a face and had to get some offense on Brock. After all the beast was ruining his live segment.

 

[JJ15776]

No, definitely not. Miz is a face. He's supposed to look tough, not show apprehension. That's why every face who's attacked by The Shield looks tough when they're coming to the ring.

If you've watched Lesnar do anything in a WWE ring before, you know that that's just his style.

 

[Fansince1992]

I think it was all in the script.

Unlike others i'm really enjoying Miz as a face. He reminds me a bit of a Jerry Springer/Jeremy Kyle type charactor, as he tries to resolve the lies and deciet of the main storylines. Miz Tv for me is adding a fresh idea, and linking the fueds up pretty nicely at the moment. The Miz is doing a great job (just my opinion of course)

I think The Lesnar appearence on Miz Tv was the highlight of the night. I really liked the way Heyman was calling Miz "Mr Mizanan" it was a nice touch that seemed to fit The Miz really well for a none wrestling role.

Total respect for Miz to standing his ground against Lesnar. It was a bit unexpected to see the smaller talkshow host standing up to a beast like Brock.

 

[Azane]

The fact that people are thinking this is legitimate heat is probably solid booking and good selling on the part of the actors and WWE.

Remember, the goal of wrestling is to make it look as real as possible without actually injuring the other performer.