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After reading some other forums lately, it seems like everyone keeps moaning and whining about the quality of heels.

Yeah, heels moan and whine, but isn't that what they do? Cheat to win?

Anyway, Who would you choose to become a 'superheel' and how would you do it?

I'd pick Drew MacIntyre. That'd be interesting. I'm not sure how I'd do it.
 
Picking the foreigner is too easy though. They'll never get over huge in the states (minus Hart or Edge). No, I'll take someone people like. Someone like... JoMo. No one would see that coming. Have him come out and beat down Stone Cold. Then in the same night Cena. Insult the city he's in, say he's better than everyone else.. The typical Heel stuff really. They just need to examine what worked in the past. How did Vince, or HHH become great Monster Heels? Sports Entertainment is about recycling, so recycle what worked in the past and use it. The way they did the Truth turn was a perfect example.
 
Take someone already considered a heel and turn up the volume. My pick is Jack Swagger. Turn him from being "The All American American" to someone who can't stand his country. That will draw in mega heat, because most of us already know the un-american gimmick is one of the biggest heel gimmicks around. And toss it on someone like Swagger, who has been running with the American angle for sometime, well, it would be like Sgt. Slaughter going heel. People were shocked.

And imagine their shock when they realize Swag was a heel the whole time, just not on such a playing field. Kind of reminds me of Cody Rhodes, who was a baddie as "The Dashing One" but everyone took notice when he became "Deranged".

This is my formula- turn Swags into a credible heel by despising the person that he has been this whole time. Would create depth of character.
 
Cody Rhodes would be the perfect "superheel" because he has it all. The psycho-deranged act, cocky, and he can back it up.I would do it by simply playing Ted Dibiase, he reforms a team with him and they get to the top again just like when they were in Legacy he turns on him and rides the roll of Legacy into the main event picture.



"I may be nuts, but I may be a genius too" - Cody Rhodes
 
R-Truth, easy. He's already one of the best heels I've seen in a very long time and wouldn't take much to get him there.
 
It is clear to me that the best monster heel would be none other than JOHN CENA. The guy already draws a massive amount of boos. A full blown heel character would draw the most heat possible.....and also set up great matches the next 2 Wrestlemanias against The Rock and The Undertaker. The WWE needs to do something to get people talking about it again. It's been stale since there is no Jericho, HHH, HBK, now Edge...I think the time is coming ...lets say a few months before next Wrestlemania to have Cena turn. Think about a Heel Cena vs The Rock...I would order that...then next year Undertaker going for 30-0 against the only man he hasn't beat... They milked that face character to the point where people resent him. Cena's mic skills have improved over the years and he doesn't need a thuganomic gimmick. You need to make it epic so people go on You Tube and search for Cena heel turn.
 
I'd go with R-Truth right now. I am LIKING his new attitude immensely.

As far as the idea of turning John Cena ..., not gonna happen until someone can replace him as the top face in the company.
 
i would take a heel and rather than make him "cool" i'd make him the most despicable person, if ppl cheer i'd make him do something worse... i mentioned this in a previous post yesterday that i don't remember orton being cheered at all when he ddt'd steph and kissed in front of trips... doing dastardly shit like that'll get u booed no matter how "cool" you are because no one wants to relate to that... Truth is heading there and i like it, but i'd make his character more angry and dastardly rather than insane as he is now
 
i think they should make mysterio a heel. the best way is him and sin cara vs del rio and someone half way through the match he takes sin cara out and sides with del rio
 
To me, there is 1 person that stands out. that man:

Ezekiel Jackson

IMO, Big Zeke has the look, size and strength to be the monster heel to wreak havc throughout the entire WWE.

Have him turn heel by plowing Randy Orton in the Main Event at Capitol Punishment, give him a months worth of destruction on SmackDown! and let him loose towards SummerSlam by having him in a triple threat for the World Heavyweight Championship, which he comes up short but is not the one pinned.

Hopefully by this time he would have gathered enough heat to carry through more programs through to Survivor Series and have him turn on the SmackDown! team.

Seems like it could happen, hope I'm not delving too far into it!
 
Isn't it obvious, CM Punk. He's the best heel on the planet. Let him run amock and be the scumbag we want him to be!!!

I totally agree, I think C.M. Punk has the best chance to be a super heel. Though, I do think Miz has great potential to be a super heel as well. They just need to be able to do more with their character, which I am sure creative holds them back from being too evil.
 
Idk, I find it really hard to hate a guy that uses the torture rack :worship:

To me, there is 1 person that stands out. that man:

Ezekiel Jackson

IMO, Big Zeke has the look, size and strength to be the monster heel to wreak havc throughout the entire WWE.

Have him turn heel by plowing Randy Orton in the Main Event at Capitol Punishment, give him a months worth of destruction on SmackDown! and let him loose towards SummerSlam by having him in a triple threat for the World Heavyweight Championship, which he comes up short but is not the one pinned.

Hopefully by this time he would have gathered enough heat to carry through more programs through to Survivor Series and have him turn on the SmackDown! team.

Seems like it could happen, hope I'm not delving too far into it!
 
I think Jack Swagger has a good super-heel quality about him. He has that complete dick look but also looks like he could dominate any match he`s in. This is gonna sound redundant, but he has that old Kurt Angle look down pat but looks bigger and stronger than Kurt. Feed him guys like Bourne and Baretta to beat down and he can become a dominating guy.
 
I would combine two ideas already mentioned but throw in some detail. Have CM Punk use Nexus to take out Stone Cold and then finish him off with a pile driver.

I doubt WWE, Stone Cold or Stone Cold's doctor would go for it but it seems like great a way to give the fans a "holy shit I can't believe he just did that kind of moment."

If that is not sick enough Punk could come out the next show in Black and Pink trunks.

Otherwise having managers give orders and talk 100% for the wrestler is the best way to get someone over as a strict heel
 
How do you create the next super heel?

Have them end the Undertaker's streak. And I don't mean cleanly. I mean with 10 chair shots, a couple low blows, and whatever else they have to do to win.

If you want the fans to hate someone, and I mean REALLY hate them, then have that man end the one thing that's still held in high regard in todays day and age: The Undertakers streak.

The best guy to do that would be Cena. If they ever did want to turn Cena heel, that would be the way to do it. People would despise him for ruining the one thing that was still held sacred in wrestling. But it doesn't have to be Cena. It could work with anyone. Although he would be the best choice.

I for one DO want to see the Undertakers streak broken. Hogan defeated the undefeated Andre. Doomsday killed Superman. Bane broke Batmans back. Someone should end the deadmans streak. And whoever that would be, would be universally despised.
 
I've been watching old videos of Hogan turning heel in 1996. Unfortunately the time to turn Cena heel in the Hollywood Hogan role has past with the end of the Nexus angle and we really don't have a suitable candidate for a "super" heel
for Triple H at this point of career is not interested.

What we need is a 300 pound guy to be pushed as a guy who can destroy the faces on his own without help. That guy is not in the WWE right now for Ezekiel Jackson is too limited and the rest of the guys are little guys.
 
How do you create the next super heel?

Have them end the Undertaker's streak. And I don't mean cleanly. I mean with 10 chair shots, a couple low blows, and whatever else they have to do to win.

If you want the fans to hate someone, and I mean REALLY hate them, then have that man end the one thing that's still held in high regard in todays day and age: The Undertakers streak.

The best guy to do that would be Cena. If they ever did want to turn Cena heel, that would be the way to do it. People would despise him for ruining the one thing that was still held sacred in wrestling. But it doesn't have to be Cena. It could work with anyone. Although he would be the best choice.

I for one DO want to see the Undertakers streak broken. Hogan defeated the undefeated Andre. Doomsday killed Superman. Bane broke Batmans back. Someone should end the deadmans streak. And whoever that would be, would be universally despised.

See all i see this creating is a mass of Xpac heat for the wrestler involved, to the point it's career ending.

My suggestion would be to take someone like Rhodes and improve on what he has going, not the paper bag thing,but the rest of what he is doing.
 
People might say this is a stupid idea, but bear with me here.

What if Morrison returned, but as some HIGHER being? Imagine him as a God-like figure who actually lived in a Palace of Wisdom and deemed himself superior than all other mortals?

His promos would be calm and serene, just as he is. He'll talk about how being appreciated by the fans isn't as important as achieving one's highest state of evolution.

I think he become a super heel. Someone who literally believes himself to be a SUPERIOR BEING instead of just a heel who cockily proclaims himself to be better than everyone else.

My idea is a knock-off of THIS article which I consider to be aamaaaazing: http://www.thejohnreport.net/2011/01/27/sew-my-interview-with-the-monster-inside-john-morrison/
 
I will jump right on the C.M. Punk is the greatest heel in the WWE right now thing. I remember catching old video's of Punk on YouTube where he was ripping some juggalos in the crowd a new one. It was amazing, the way he interacted with the crowd, his work on the mic. Set C.M. Punk free, let him run his own programs on WWE television.

As for who I would make into a super heel and how....

Christian - They have already turned him heel, which I am loving. I have always preferred Christian as a heel. Have him lose the match at Capitol Punishment, really sending him over the edge. Just elevate his personality. Don't pull any punches when on the mic. Complain about how the WWE has slighted him after so many years here, how they don't see him as a draw. At some point, have Edge try to come out and talk some sense into his best friend/brother whatever WWE is calling them now. Have Christian snap and attack Edge, saying that he (Christian) won a title in the WWE before Edge ever even had the shot, and they turned him into a super star. To me, personally, that would be the best person and way to make a current WWE superstar into a super heel
 
People might say this is a stupid idea, but bear with me here.

What if Morrison returned, but as some HIGHER being? Imagine him as a God-like figure who actually lived in a Palace of Wisdom and deemed himself superior than all other mortals?

His promos would be calm and serene, just as he is. He'll talk about how being appreciated by the fans isn't as important as achieving one's highest state of evolution.

I think he become a super heel. Someone who literally believes himself to be a SUPERIOR BEING instead of just a heel who cockily proclaims himself to be better than everyone else.

My idea is a knock-off of THIS article which I consider to be aamaaaazing: http://www.thejohnreport.net/2011/01/27/sew-my-interview-with-the-monster-inside-john-morrison/

I think that could easily work except that he will still be cheered for due to his good looks and flashy in ring style

I also wanted to say Chris Jericho at one point was a "Super heel" he did fantastic on his time wearing suits calling people hypocrites and ripping HBKS eye out of its socket etc

I also want to say that R-Truth is doing very well as a heel he seems like a genuine psychopath and just needs to keep it up

I also think had Barrett continued with Nexus and actually been booked to win the WWE title he could have been this proposed "super heel"

I think for someone to truly be "Super" heel they need to be booked as a winner , not a loser....... even if they have to cheat to do it but it'd be better if not

To make super heel out of what we have going right now R-Truth needs to just keep it up (And win the title at the PPV especially if by cheating in some vicious manner) and/or have Barrett actually winning matches and having excessive mic time again and winning the more important titles cause hes basically perfect
 
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