Constant mentions of Hulk Hogan

[xsKiitz]

I have absolutely no problem with anybody's name being mentioned by the WWE, and I as many of you did, was surprised to hear CM Punk bring up Hogan in his shoot promo. That was all sweet.

Then I believe it was Vince and Cena having their little talk in the ring, where Vince brought him up again under the context (don't quote me), 'don't be Hogan..' That was a pretty decent call I'll admit, didn't mark out or anything, but it was becoming like oh, Hulk's name is being mentioned again. Sick.

Then John Cena this week (he would be on the damn show), was in the ring with Vince again and ANOTHER Hogan mention was made. Not a direct one, but an easy relation, saying 'I will walk on someone elses TV show and keep doing this, BROTHER.' Obviously speaking of Hogan's show, iMPACT wrestling. I just thought it was silly, one time's enough. A second didn't hurt. But to have all 3 guys make Hogan references seems unnecessary.


So what do you think of Hulk Hogan being constantly brought up in promos by the WWE?

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[Daniel]

The only reason Hogan is being mentioned on WWE TV is because it fits. Punk was talking about being an "ass-kisser". Hogan's name came up. McMahon was talking about people who walked out on him. Hogan came up. McMahon was talking about individuals being bigger than WWE. It all fits. I guess another reason he's been mentioned is to keep up this idea of this angle being a "shoot". A reference to Hogan is a veiled reference to TNA, and referencing TNA is considered out of bounds in WWE.

It doesn't mean anything, really. Nothing will come of it. It just fits considering the angle.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I wouldn't say Hogan is being brought up "constantly". His name has been mentioned a couple of times and he was referenced by John Cena last night with the "brother" comment and that's about it.

At this point, Hogan's name being dropped by Vince is a means to an end I think. He's used Hogan as sort of a warning to CM Punk & John Cena as sort of a "look what's happpened to this guy and look where he is now" sort of deal rather than anything complimentary. Hulk Hogan is no threat to the WWE and his time in TNA over the course of the year and a half is proof of that. His days as a big draw are long since behind him and nothing he's done has helped TNA's audience to grow. They're still drawing in the low 1s just as they've been doing for the past several years.

Besides, what's the harm? TNA constantly attempts to take shots at WWE and people seem to be generally ok with it so what's good for the goose is good for the gander. As I aluded to earlier, there's absolutely nothing that Hogan or TNA can do to the WWE in terms of reprisal. Sure, they can just take more shots if they want but there's no real sting to them.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

I honestly think it means WWE/TNA coming together in the near future

I think this is the dumbest thing I have ever read in my entire life.

Hogan is a Legend, Hogan is a house hold name when it comes to professional wrestling. Hogan will always be remembered with the WWE and Pro Wrestling, no matter what. Major stars in wrestling will be compared to Hogan, blah blah blah Hogan, Hogan, Hogan....

Hogan had it at one time, he was the IT man in wrestling, if you're within a 22-40 age range you know about Hogan, because you probably remember seeing Hogan as some point during your youth, teens, hell 20s. Hogan was a Real American, he fought for the rights of every man, a REAL AMERICAN FIGHTING FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT, DAMNIT!!!!!

The thought of Hogan in the WWE coming out to a standing ovation is why people think about Hogan. His classic promos, his big time matches, ripping off his shirt. Hogan will always be a name discussed in Wrestling, no matter what simply because of the impact he had prior to going to TNA.

 

[Joshua]

I wouldn't call it constant but they have mentioned him. Of course he will be brought up when ass kissing comes into play. Vince doesn't hate Hogan like he does other big names who have left WWE. I think the names drops could be a good indication that if Hogan wanted to come back to the WWE, he most likely could. Vince understands that Hogan will be involved in wrestling whether it is with the WWE or not. I don't think Vince will black ball Hogan like he has to others that have left for Impact Wrestling.

Hogan helped make the WWE what it is today, and without him the company may not be where it is not. I think he has earned the right to get his name dropped every now and then.

 

[Suspectible]

I think this is the dumbest thing I have ever read in my entire life.

Hogan is a Legend, Hogan is a house hold name when it comes to professional wrestling. Hogan will always be remembered with the WWE and Pro Wrestling, no matter what. Major stars in wrestling will be compared to Hogan, blah blah blah Hogan, Hogan, Hogan....

Hogan had it at one time, he was the IT man in wrestling, if you're within a 22-40 age range you know about Hogan, because you probably remember seeing Hogan as some point during your youth, teens, hell 20s. Hogan was a Real American, he fought for the rights of every man, a REAL AMERICAN FIGHTING FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT, DAMNIT!!!!!

The thought of Hogan in the WWE coming out to a standing ovation is why people think about Hogan. His classic promos, his big time matches, ripping off his shirt. Hogan will always be a name discussed in Wrestling, no matter what simply because of the impact he had prior to going to TNA.

lrn2take joke.... I've been watching WWE for about 13 years now I'm 18 now I may have not been watching during the main part of Hogan's career but I learned to watch Youtube video's of him all the time at one time I wanted to be him then he went to TNA...Lost all respect he betrayed the corporation that made him.....Yes he might have done all this "FIGHTING FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT" in my opinion WHAT WAS RIGHT WAS NOT TO BETRAY THE CORPORATION THAT MADE HIM WHO HE IS TODAY.....He was a hero to all kid's in the 90's he was an icon he then betrayed WWE.....Well guess what now WWE is using his name as a joke to get back to what he deserves....He might be this hero that ripped his shirt off but in my opinion he is a undeserving prick who doesn't deserve a good name in WWE anymore....And to that I say let them use his name as a joke....He deserve's everything that comes to him

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

I think this comes back to some of the PR rules WWe was running (in particular the whole 'wrestling' debacle). Some common sense has obviously been seen, possibly 'assisted' by the death of the Macho Man.

Minor swear words have crept back in, 'wrestling' is being said again and guys that have left are either getting name checked or are appearing in old clips (the promos for MitB featured several of the 'future endeavoured'). Along with current realistic storylines, it appears they are allowing realistic speech which includes remembering their past.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

lrn2take joke.... I've been watching WWE for about 13 years now I'm 18 now I may have not been watching during the main part of Hogan's career but I learned to watch Youtube video's of him all the time at one time I wanted to be him then he went to TNA...Lost all respect he betrayed the corporation that made him.....Yes he might have done all this "FIGHTING FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT" in my opinion WHAT WAS RIGHT WAS NOT TO BETRAY THE CORPORATION THAT MADE HIM WHO HE IS TODAY.....He was a hero to all kid's in the 90's he was an icon he then betrayed WWE.....Well guess what now WWE is using his name as a joke to get back to what he deserves....He might be this hero that ripped his shirt off but in my opinion he is a undeserving prick who doesn't deserve a good name in WWE anymore....And to that I say let them use his name as a joke....He deserve's everything that comes to him

how exactly did he betray the corporation that made him? First of all, no one owes any loyalty to a corporation, but even assuming they may or may not, how did Hogan wanting to make a living, doing the only thing he know how to do, betray anyone? Was WWE trying to use his services at the time? No, and he had just as much a part of making the WWF as they did him. Hogan is the reason the WWE is the household name that it is today. He was the biggest name in wrestling in the 80s when you weren't even close to being born and more importantly than that, he's the reason so many of these young guys even got into the business to begin with.

 

[TopOfTheTron]

He's a wrestling legend! Why shouldn't they mention him? I know he's with Impact right now but that shouldn't matter, and it doesn't matter. WWE will still mention him and put him in their video games ( WWE All-Stars ) as long as he hasn't killed anybody.

 

[RKOx7]

Eh, mentioning the competition is just to be edgy, it riles up people and gets them talking, and it just seems to me it fits since all of last month, the promos and events were vehicles of speculation and to get people talking.

 

[ChickenWaffles]

As someone who didn't keep up with the gossip re: mentioning Hogan's name, it's something I didn't notice during these segments. Which probably indicates that it's meaningless.

 

[gunnascott]

WWE has always mentioned people the history of WM dvd was the Hogan show for the 1st hour and unless he gets Benoit status they will always mention him

 

[AngryCenaFan]

I thought Cenas use was very well placed, it made sense, given the situation, I'd like to see more "real" talk in wrestling

 

[The Rich]

I honestly think it means WWE/TNA coming together in the near future

"Really?, Really!?, Really!!??"
"Are you serious bro!"

You should never be allowed to comment on a thread again after a comment that stupid.


As for the original post, Hogan's name is not brought up "constantly". He has been reffered to by Punk, Vince and Cena, simply to fit in with the current storyline going on.

 

[Champ1432]

A lot of good points, I also think it has to do with the "realistic" or "shoot" promos they've been doing recently, to get them to appeal to the more casual fan. Punk or whoever can mention guys like Johnny Ace or Colt Cabana, but the everyday fan probably won't realize what they're saying or who they're talking about. But even the casual fan or the young fan knows Hogan, knows he was there previously, knows how important he was, and knows he's not there now. So I think its just a way to get into that realm of edginess or realism for the non-hardcore fan, which is the main audience now anyway.

Plus, as someone else said, TNA is really no threat to WWE right now, so it's not really hurting them. I think if somehow TNA were a bigger deal or closer in ratings to WWE, you wouldn't hear his name as much.

 

[neilphipps]

lrn2take joke.... I've been watching WWE for about 13 years now I'm 18 now I may have not been watching during the main part of Hogan's career but I learned to watch Youtube video's of him all the time at one time I wanted to be him then he went to TNA...Lost all respect he betrayed the corporation that made him.....Yes he might have done all this "FIGHTING FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT" in my opinion WHAT WAS RIGHT WAS NOT TO BETRAY THE CORPORATION THAT MADE HIM WHO HE IS TODAY.....He was a hero to all kid's in the 90's he was an icon he then betrayed WWE.....Well guess what now WWE is using his name as a joke to get back to what he deserves....He might be this hero that ripped his shirt off but in my opinion he is a undeserving prick who doesn't deserve a good name in WWE anymore....And to that I say let them use his name as a joke....He deserve's everything that comes to him

Listen I can respect your opinion on this you've watched pro wrestling almost your whole life well so have I, I'm 27 & watched this since I was 3, I grew up during the Hogan era & Hogan nor anyone needs to stay w/the company that made them stars. Hogan as well as Flair7 & many others move on from the WWE for many different reasons WWE didnt need Hogan they didn't have any storylines for him their for they didn't need to use him so he goes to look for work elsewhere, TNA hired him & are using him to better their product same as Flair, the nature boy doesn't want to sit & do nothing so TNA hired him as well. Its a job dude & you'd do the same thing you gotta pay bills it doesn't matter where you choose to apply your trade.

 

[TM Punk]

I honestly think it means WWE/TNA coming together in the near future

I honestly think this means you're dumb. With all due respect of course. it really means nothing. Everything said about him was said with a negative conotation. They called him an ass kisser who thinks he's bigger than the company that made him, who's on a show in which no relevant wrestler WANTS to be on (besides kurt angle). I'm more suprised that they mentioned kurt angle posatively. Vince is notorious for burying, or making a mockary out of past employees, this is no exception.

 

[trinerigelado]

lrn2take joke.... I've been watching WWE for about 13 years now I'm 18 now I may have not been watching during the main part of Hogan's career but I learned to watch Youtube video's of him all the time at one time I wanted to be him then he went to TNA...Lost all respect he betrayed the corporation that made him.....Yes he might have done all this "FIGHTING FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT" in my opinion WHAT WAS RIGHT WAS NOT TO BETRAY THE CORPORATION THAT MADE HIM WHO HE IS TODAY.....He was a hero to all kid's in the 90's he was an icon he then betrayed WWE.....Well guess what now WWE is using his name as a joke to get back to what he deserves....He might be this hero that ripped his shirt off but in my opinion he is a undeserving prick who doesn't deserve a good name in WWE anymore....And to that I say let them use his name as a joke....He deserve's everything that comes to him

I guess they made Hogan its not like he didn't main event in Memphis before he ever worked fo Vince Sr., its not like he wasn't main eventing in the AWA before Vince Jr. guaranteed him the world title and more money to come to the WWF, its not like he wasn't main eventing for New Japan during Tokyo's run as the hottest wrestling maeket in the world for thirty years. If all of that was true it means that Hogan was a true main event talent who if you gave a big push would make you a lot of money but of course it was all the WWF's doing and Hogan had absolutiely nothing with all the success he had. Like or hate Hogan but he would not be as successful as he was if he did not have the ability that he did.

 

[H33LTurn]

This is really making more of some simple situations. WWE mentions Hogan to get a reaction, because they know that the regular fans as well as some IWC members are going to say "But hes part of TNA! You're not supposed to mention him". With WWE's new "please the internet" campaign, they're throwing everything at us at once. (although I think they're just giving into our demands to show us how horrible WWE might end up being if the IWC's demands are met).

 

[cityofrain]

I think it's a mixed bag here. Does it mean anything right now. Ehh...no. But what it does is drop a big name to relate the importance of what Punk is doing. It also doesn't hurt to drop the name of the biggest star the wrestling world has ever had. All to keep the door a little open for a retirement in the company he carried for so long. WWE is proving again they don't care about any other wrestling company because they're irrelevant. They continue to ignore TNA when they take shots at them. Yet they are willing to mention big ex-WWE names who are on TNA now. There isn't a lot to this.

 

[SinCityBlitz]

Hogan is the reason the WWE is the household name that it is today. He was the biggest name in wrestling in the 80s when you weren't even close to being born and more importantly than that, he's the reason so many of these young guys even got into the business to begin with.

That works both ways. Without Vince and his vision Hogan stays in the AWA and doesn't come even close to what he became in the WWE. A lot of people forget that Vince gave him the platform and pushed him to the moon.

As far as WWE mentioning Hogan lately, I think it's kind of an open door thing. I think by Wrestlemania Hogan will be back with the WWE in some capacity. I think they are going all out for this Mania.

 

[Hulkamaniac]

They are mentioning Hogan to get a reaction. Hogan is still the most well-known name in the business and still the name that crosses the widest spectrum of generations of fans. Although, it should be noted, TNA would be getting blasted for making these references to the WWE and wrestlers from WWE. Now, as for this jabronie...

lrn2take joke.... I've been watching WWE for about 13 years now I'm 18 now I may have not been watching during the main part of Hogan's career but I learned to watch Youtube video's of him all the time at one time I wanted to be him then he went to TNA...Lost all respect he betrayed the corporation that made him.....Yes he might have done all this "FIGHTING FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT" in my opinion WHAT WAS RIGHT WAS NOT TO BETRAY THE CORPORATION THAT MADE HIM WHO HE IS TODAY.....He was a hero to all kid's in the 90's he was an icon he then betrayed WWE.....Well guess what now WWE is using his name as a joke to get back to what he deserves....He might be this hero that ripped his shirt off but in my opinion he is a undeserving prick who doesn't deserve a good name in WWE anymore....And to that I say let them use his name as a joke....He deserve's everything that comes to him

1. You are a moron.

2. Hogan was "made" before he got to the WWF. Once there, he made them just as much as they made him. It was very much symbiotic.

3. The WWF didn't want Hogan anymore in 1993. They felt the steroid stigma was too much of a negative for the company. So you feel he should have just sat at home and done nothing? If your dad got fired from his janitorial job, would you expect him to just sit at home so as not to "betray the corporation that made him"?

4. See # 1.

 

[Jimrin1967]

A lot can be said about Hulk Hogan, good and bad. But I truly believe that had it not been for Hulk Hogan, none of us would be talking here today. There would be no "WrestleZone.com" There would be no Youtube channels talking about pro wrestling. There would have been no John Cena. No Rock. No Stone Cold. Hulk Hogan took an entertainment form that had its almost cult-like following and made it relevant and "cool." He completely changed the business. Now certainly Vince McMahon and others marketed the Hulk Hogan machine. But it was Hogan's charisma and ability to work the crowd...which he honed in the old AWA, especially in his feud with Nick Bockwinkel...that propelled professional wrestling to new heights.

As for all the mentions recently I think WWE is simply getting away a little from not acknowledging other promotions.

 

[Jeritron5000]

They mention him because they can. It honestly doesn't hurt them, nor does it help TNA in any capacity. It's almost as if Vince is proving his point that no one man is bigger than the WWE. Yeah, Hogan is still one of the most recognized names in the industry today...and I hate to say it...but without the WWE as a canvas, he's not all that relevant. And I'm not speaking on his contributions to the growth and success of the industry. That goes without saying. This purely in the here and now.

 

[candy girl]

why is this even a thread to begin with? yeah mcjackass mentioned his name, along with b.m.punk who probably wishes he had half of the charisma hogan had..... john cena referencing hogan? that isn't suprising!! he stated in many interviews that hogan was the reason he got into the business in the first place, so him saying that isn't new......i like your responce hulkamanic, obviously some people on here are too stupid to realize that if you lose your job your responsibility to get off you ass and find another one other wise your ass ain't gonna eat, or have a place to sleep.