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CM Punk vs. Chris Brown Twitter Beef

Good on you Dewster, I stopped reading after he said that Chris Brown could beat up CM Punk because Punk is weak because of being straight edge.

I have to say though, if Punk did legit fight Brown, that would be awesome. I'd pay to see that shit because Punk would destroy that kid with ease.
 
Just skimming through this, I can tell you've not read the full police report that was just released. Rhianna attacked him first? No, good sir. She simply picked up his cell phone and saw a text or two from a woman that piece of trash had hooked up with. She asked him about them, and he pitched a little bitch fit and attacked her. When she called a friend and got no answer, but acted as though she had been talking to her, Brown told her it was "the biggest mistake she could ever make", and he would "beat her and even kill her". He then proceeded to beat her mercilessly, again. He deserves no forgiveness for his actions.

Also, to address all these Austin comparisons, I will openly admit that what he did was wrong. The difference? He got help for his issues, he owned up to the beating, and (to the best of our knowledge) has not attacked Debra since, nor has he made it a point to flip the fuck out when it. My last girlfriend kicked me in the balls after I broke up with her. Did I hit, or even think of hitting her? No.

Wow.
 
CM Punk wrestles worse than he entertains. You kiddies can stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes when someone says something you don't agree with and can't get your small warped little minds around. Punk is a little bitch. Chris Brown sings about as well as CM Punk entertains. And both men are way to fruity to have been in relationships with Rihanna and Maria, two of the hottest chicks ever.

I read that police report years ago. Kind of fishy how a new report gets released years later once it's official the two are STILL dating. I had my own situation with an ex where i ended up hitting her. She ended up being totally insane. I dumped her and she stalked and harassed me. She harassed my friends, she called my house non stop. I went to the police and they told me they could do little to nothing and couldn't get me a restraining order but that i could get one if i hit her. After the fact, I found out she was involved in an underground escort service and was involved in dealing hard drugs. Her pimps/co-workers came to my house to kick the shit out of me. She told everyone she was pregnant with my child, which was a lie, and tried to get me to give her money for an abortion. This continued for months, non-stop, and there was nothing I could do about it. I couldn't go anywhere without fearing for my life. Meanwhile she slept with all sorts of guys to get back at me and threatened to have me killed. She stole a lot of my clothes and belongings. She would show up at my house late and night and pay the taxi to sit there while she cried and yelled at me to take her back. Then, finally, I was at the bar with my friends and i got hit. It was her. I laughed it off. Then later, again, hit in the head. She ended up hitting me five different times. Then she came at me with a beer bottle as the bar was emptying. I caught her at the last second and shoved her. She went and told the bouncer and he beat the shit out of me and kicked me out. He threw me in a back alley and I walked over to a pizza shop. When I got there i was jumped by about 10 of her thugs. She told them I had hit her. They left me bleeding and almost beat me to death. They told me 'you never hit a girl'. And she was outside that place with her escort friends laughing. They called the cops and the cop that took me had actually dated her at one time. He told me to 'smash' her. I went outside and she spit on me and he let me go and i knocked her out with one punch. The cop roughed me up for show and threw me in the cop car. He filled me in on all the stuff i didn't know about this girl. He took me to a friends house and didn't bother taking me to the drunk tank. People heard about what I did and they looked down on me for hitting a girl. This woman tried to ruin my life and no one stood up in my defense. After i smashed her, the harassing stopped and i never heard from the girl again. But from that day on people judged me as someone who beats women. It was the first time i did it, and i hope it's the last. But if something similar ever happened again, i wouldn't let things get that far out of hand. I'd smash anyone who did what she did to me. Man or woman.

So all of you WZ posters who see the world as black and white, all i can say is wake up. Cops can be pretty corrupt too, their records can be slanted based on how fast they're forced to figure things out. Some women are the worst pieces of shit that walk the face of the planet. So are some men. We all hate on Chris Brown but Rihanna obviously loves the guy. If the guy was beating her all the time or even once and a while, i'm sure Rihanna would have enough will power to walk away. She is rich as hell and is the sexiest chick alive. Jay Z would probably place a hit on Brown if he damaged his most valuable asset. I hate Chris Brown's music. The only thing the guy can do well is lyp sync and dance. But the guy did win a Grammy. He is well known, whether you WZ folk know it or not. On the other hand, CM Punk is not well known. Most people don't watch wrestling anymore. Real famous people like Hulk Hogan walk by CM Punk because they don't know who he is. Women shun him because he's a sulky, whiny baby and that doesn't turn women on. Tony Atlas doesn't even know who the fuck he is. I didn't know who Punk was till about a year ago. The guy's been around now for years and has had very little impact on anyone who isn't a die hard wrestling fan. Meanwhile, Chris Brown's music sells. He's with the hottest chick ever. Being a second rate singer or performer is far better than being a second rate WWE world champ. CM Punk is a no one, his rants about how he's straight edge are ridiculous. The guy thinks he's something special because he doesn't drink. The guy's a fucking wanker. Women would rather be beaten in a sick twisted sex fantasy than listen to a holier-than-thou hypocrite like CM Punk. Punk's two biggest role models are Stone Cold and Macho Man? haha. They are two of my biggest role models too. There's nothing wrong with a man who puts a woman in her place if she really deserves to be put in her place. I don't know if any woman deserves to be punched but then again I don't know if any man deserves to be cheated on, lied about, attacked, verbally abused, or harassed. There's more to life than a man hit a woman. Her months of verbal, mental and physical abuse far outweighed the one moment of physical abuse I inflicted on her after I couldn't take it anymore.

Anyway, people who don't understand that the world isn't black and white should have the shit kicked out of them till they're black and blue for being fucking stupid.
 
I'm sure there was a point in that mass of empty words. Lemme guess. You had a crazy bitch of an ex. You tried contacting the cops, but they told you to fuck off (isn't that just like those crooked assholes? Always sticking it to the innocents, and backing the real criminals....), and you wound up hitting her. From there you discovered some insidious secrets about her. Maybe prostitution, or hardcore drug usage. Blah-blah-blah-blah. Poor you.


And, did I see the line "there's nothing wrong with putting a woman in her place when she needs it"? Good god, is that the single most ignorant thing I've read since Westboro Baptist Church's official website, or not? Do yourself a favor, and avoid public at all costs. Clearly, the world does not need anypony else like you.
 
Chris Brown - EVIL DEMON SCUMBAG NAZI SHOULD DIE FER BEATIN UP HIS WIMMINZ

Steve Austin - HERO! LEGEND! GOD!

The hypocrisy of Punk and wrestling fans in general here is a bit amusing. The lesson here I guess is you can only beat up your girlfriend if you're a famous pro wrestler? It's funny too because Punk is like Austin's number one fan.

I'm sure if pictures of Debra came out with her bloody and beaten to a pulp, people wouldn't be as forgiving with Austin as they are, but the fact is... we don't know what kind of damage, if any, he did on Debra so it's easier to look past it.

I don't even like Austin, and I have zero remorse for Rhianna, but I don't think it's fair to compare the two situations.

Also, the problem with Chris Brown is that his actions since beating up Rhianna have been so douchey that it's impossible for anyone to forgive him. Throwing a hissy fit and breaking furniture on the set of a television show just because they asked him about the incident, I mean, the guy is just a turd. Had he just remained apologetic about the incident all this time and not throw these outburst publicly and on the internet, people by now would have definitely let it go since Americans are the most forgiving human beings on the planet.

Anyways, CM Punk is being a little bit corny playing 'Captain Save A Hoe' but it's getting him some good publicity, so I don't mind him doing it one bit.
 
Hahaha Buffyfan. Right there, that says a lot. I definitely wouldn't go out in public if i was a My Little Pony fan who also watched PG wrestling. You like ponies, you hate drinking and you love your lame ass CM Punk. Seems like you live in a world of fantasy. I don't know any of this for sure, that's just how you come across. If I was more judgmental like you though, I'd have my mind made up on you and you could never escape my definition of you. I'm sure there's more to you than you're ignorant posts. The world's not black and white, it's as colourful as those gay ass ponies and unicorns you attach to your posts.

There's nothing wrong with putting anyone in their place when they need to be put in their place. People don't need to be put in their place unless they are crossing the line with you. No one deserves to be abused. No one deserves to have their life put in danger. No one deserves to live in fear that they are going to be punched just because there's an argument. If you want to read the single most ignorant thing you can just re-read the first paragraph of your last post. You are completely fine with me being abused but then when it's a woman it's the worst thing ever. You just skimmed what i wrote. Caught a few words here and there and made up your mind. Whose to say you didn't do the exact same thing after skimming through the Chris Brown police reports. The world doesn't need ignorant people like you going around expressing stubborn views.

CM Punk is a twat. I'll bet he's someone you look up to.
 
Hahaha Buffyfan. Right there, that says a lot. I definitely wouldn't go out in public if i was a My Little Pony fan who also watched PG wrestling. You like ponies, you hate drinking and you love your lame ass CM Punk. Seems like you live in a world of fantasy. I don't know any of this for sure, that's just how you come across. If I was more judgmental like you though, I'd have my mind made up on you and you could never escape my definition of you. I'm sure there's more to you than you're ignorant posts. The world's not black and white, it's as colourful as those gay ass ponies and unicorns you attach to your posts.

I'll ignore your defense of Chris Beatmygirlfriendblackandblue. You have just insulted not just me, but the Ponies as well. They teach us to love and tolerate the shit out of everybody, but you are not a person. You are merely a parasprite.

1) Yes, I'm a brony. Big fucking deal. I'll also openly admit to watching Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Project Runway, 24 Hour Catwalk, and the occasional documentary on History Channel.

2) So, I watch WWE despite it being PG. You've found the ultimate weakness in my armor! Or, as I prefer to look at it: Big deal?

3) Not only do I love drinking, I'd dare say it's one of my favorite activities. In public, at home, anywhere. Booze is one of my best friends.

4) I don't "love" CM Punk, but I do respect him. He stands up for what he believes, and he has the will power and discipline to reject drugs, alcohol, and tobacco.


See, at least I'm open about it. You can check with X, Shocky, D-Man, or any of the others who have access to me on the social media. What you see here, is what you get.
 
I'm not so much defending Chris Brown for beating up Rihanna as I'm saying CM Punk is a douchebag for his straight edge, holier-than-thou lifestyle. We don't really know anything about Rihanna or Chris Brown or what happened because they never really go on record to say what really went down. CM Punk doesn't know anything more than you and me. All we really know is what the cops say and what reporters report. From what i've heard, i hate Chris Brown. But I'm sure there's way more to the story than he caught her looking through his phone. No one goes apeshit and kicks the shit out of someone for simply looking through their phone.

CM Punk can stand up for what he believes in all he wants. But what he believes in is stupid. I drink casually. I do not have anything against people who drink a lot. I have nothing against reformed alcoholics quitting and I have nothing wrong with people who have addictions problems quitting. If I had a problem i'd quit completely. But I don't, and I'm not scared to drink whenever I feel like it. I smoke casually once a month and usually only if there's weed going around. I don't touch hard drugs because I know they're much more addictive and have way worse consequences. I haven't had a drink or a smoke since New Years Eve. I don't have problems with alcohol or drugs. This guy's a wrestler and he doesn't drink. Fine. He doesn't smoke or do drugs. Even better. No roids? Awesome. But he goes to every length to brag about how amazing he is that he doesn't do anything bad. It's like he assumes that anyone who drinks automatically is addicted and he'd be addicted if he didn't reject it. It's lame. It's a made-for-PG TV-reality he's selling. The guy's a wrestler and he comes across like he fears the bottle. I have the power and discipline to moderate everything I do. To me, moderation is better than outright rejecting things you probably never gave a chance. The way CM Punk comes across to me is a guy who doesn't have enough real life experience. Sure, he's the WWE world champ. But he sees things as black and white. To him, if you consume alcohol or drugs then it consumes you. You either don't hit women because you are straight edge or you hit them because you're addicted to alcohol and drugs.

Bottom line is I don't trust anyone who refuses to drink or smoke once and a while. Either they are lying and saying that for attention or they are the most religious and backward idiot ever. I have respect for people who stand up for what they believe in. But I don't have as much respect for people who stand up for what they believe in but don't ever do the things they don't believe in to experience them before they pass judgment. Punk is like a 14 year old girl who vows to be a virgin till she's married and brags to everyone about how she will remain holier-than-thou. It's just hard to believe, and if it's true it's a bit dumb to marry someone without knowing if they're sexually compatible with you. Just like how it's dumb to resist the good time that comes with moderating alcohol because you're afraid of the consequences. You can respect a person for standing up for what she believes in when it comes to waiting to having a good time and fuck, but it's hard to respect the same person for not living life and gaining sexual experience first and then making a big decision like that. I find it harder to respect people who don't know how to moderate. It's also much easier to respect someone who keeps their bragging to a minimum. The 'publicness' of the statement i'm 'a virgin' or 'i'm a straightedge' is just douchy. It's something CM Punk should just keep to himself. It'd be like wanting to do interviews for three years about how you beat your girlfriend to a pulp. It'd just be douchy.
 
This should be fun.



Tell that to the news anchors, radio personalities, and television correspondents who lost their jobs for saying racial slurs or inappropriate comments both on and off the air. The only difference is that what Chris Brown did was 100 times worse and he should not be praised on a professional level after the fact.
So the fact that he has a physical talent should be overshadowed by the personal bias of a few? No way. The people in the music industry are professional enough to forgive. Whitney Houston used drugs, that doesnt mean they were going to turn their backs on her a day after she died. Its been 3 years since the Chris Brown incident. If they overlooked the fact that Whitney probably od'ed a day before the tribute they did to her, they can most certainly overlook old news. And it really is old news. Nobody was filling up internet forums with Chris Brown hate until the internet darling mentioned his name.


There, that's better.

So, with that being said, just like I stated earlier, you thought the Rihanna beating was an isolated incident until I pointed out another one of his uncontrollable rages. I firmly believe there are more incidents than this and that his record company's publicists have done a great job of covering them up.
But you have no basis to judge him on that. Thats like if you saw me trip on my shoelaces one day, then almost fall down the stairs the other day, I'm automatically a clumsy person in your eyes for life? Of course not, that sort of logic doesnt work anywhere.


...except for beating defenseless women...
That was a problem. In comparison to guys who wear wife beaters and sit at home waiting for their wives to come home so they can spent the next 10 or so years beating them in front of their children, Chris Brown looks like a saint.



Is she really? Did she tell you this? Because the average woman that's beaten by a spouse or partner requires years of therapy to "get over it". But you can continue to be ignorant.
She invited him to her birthday party and collaborated with him on two songs. If you ever had the chance to speak with a woman whos been abused for real she would be the first to tell you that if she still hated her husband she would invite him to a party or sing with him. She'd say the hell away from him.



Because it happened and Brown shows little to no remorse about it. He thinks the best way to move past it is to give interviewers and writers attitude, turn his shoulder, and promote his albums. The guy needs therapy and anger management but he refuses to go. And you're telling me this is ok and should be ignored? Fuck that.
"Brown pleaded guilty to a felony and accepted a plea deal of community labor, five years' formal probation and domestic violence counseling" -Chris's wikipedia.

He already had counseling and apologized.



How about you and I stand in a room, you talk to me about the bullying I received when I was in grammar school, and I throw a fucking chair at you. Is that understandable because my reason for throwing the chair was a PAST EVENT? Clearly, you must be a moron.
No, how about you lose your temper and get caught on TV. You're a wrestler and have been working for years and finally made it to Cenas status. Instead of asking you question on the main event at Mania I keep asking you about the stupid thing you did, knowing it could jeopardize everything you've worked so hard for. Interviews plan interviews ahead of their time. I'm pretty certain Chris said no questions about Rhianna and the person interviewing him ignored that, knowing that he had an album to promote. Its pretty understandable to lose ones cool there. Not everyones going to sit there and be a pussy while an interviewer demonizes them.

Quite honestly, many celebrities have done stupid things in the past. Some have done things that, although they're private to them, it becomes public because the media caught on. Is it fair? Not really. But it's a tale as old as showbiz.

The only clear and effective resolution that these celebrities have found was in humility. They publicly admitted to their mistakes, received punishment, acted remorseful, and convince the public eye that they are sorry for what they did. Chris Brown did nothing more than do his community service, receive his slap on the wrist, give the public and media attitude and a piece of his mind, cut more albums, and act like it "wasn't a big deal." He's a fucking coward and until the day he willfully humbles himself and receives the help that he clearly requires, he can burn in hell for all I care.



Once he's able to man up, grow up, and accept the shitty responsibility of what he's done, I'll leave him alone. But he's got a lot to prove to me and the rest of the world before we let him slide for such a heinous crime.
You need a lesson in humanity. I dont know how many apologies Chris has to send out before you guys just forgive him. You eventually get tired of kissing people's asses, I'll tell you that much. Maybe if people were nicer to him, he'd follow their example and be humble. But while people are curising him out dont expect him to back up into a little corner and call you all individually on the phone and give you a tearful apology. When people treat you bad, you treat them bad. Thats just how life goes. As long as he makes money and is happy with his life why should he care if you forgive him?
 
I'm not so much defending Chris Brown for beating up Rihanna as I'm saying CM Punk is a douchebag for his straight edge, holier-than-thou lifestyle. We don't really know anything about Rihanna or Chris Brown or what happened because they never really go on record to say what really went down. CM Punk doesn't know anything more than you and me. All we really know is what the cops say and what reporters report. From what i've heard, i hate Chris Brown. But I'm sure there's way more to the story than he caught her looking through his phone. No one goes apeshit and kicks the shit out of someone for simply looking through their phone.

CM Punk can stand up for what he believes in all he wants. But what he believes in is stupid. I drink casually. I do not have anything against people who drink a lot. I have nothing against reformed alcoholics quitting and I have nothing wrong with people who have addictions problems quitting. If I had a problem i'd quit completely. But I don't, and I'm not scared to drink whenever I feel like it. I smoke casually once a month and usually only if there's weed going around. I don't touch hard drugs because I know they're much more addictive and have way worse consequences. I haven't had a drink or a smoke since New Years Eve. I don't have problems with alcohol or drugs. This guy's a wrestler and he doesn't drink. Fine. He doesn't smoke or do drugs. Even better. No roids? Awesome. But he goes to every length to brag about how amazing he is that he doesn't do anything bad. It's like he assumes that anyone who drinks automatically is addicted and he'd be addicted if he didn't reject it. It's lame. It's a made-for-PG TV-reality he's selling. The guy's a wrestler and he comes across like he fears the bottle. I have the power and discipline to moderate everything I do. To me, moderation is better than outright rejecting things you probably never gave a chance. The way CM Punk comes across to me is a guy who doesn't have enough real life experience. Sure, he's the WWE world champ. But he sees things as black and white. To him, if you consume alcohol or drugs then it consumes you. You either don't hit women because you are straight edge or you hit them because you're addicted to alcohol and drugs.

Bottom line is I don't trust anyone who refuses to drink or smoke once and a while. Either they are lying and saying that for attention or they are the most religious and backward idiot ever. I have respect for people who stand up for what they believe in. But I don't have as much respect for people who stand up for what they believe in but don't ever do the things they don't believe in to experience them before they pass judgment. Punk is like a 14 year old girl who vows to be a virgin till she's married and brags to everyone about how she will remain holier-than-thou. It's just hard to believe, and if it's true it's a bit dumb to marry someone without knowing if they're sexually compatible with you. Just like how it's dumb to resist the good time that comes with moderating alcohol because you're afraid of the consequences. You can respect a person for standing up for what she believes in when it comes to waiting to having a good time and fuck, but it's hard to respect the same person for not living life and gaining sexual experience first and then making a big decision like that. I find it harder to respect people who don't know how to moderate. It's also much easier to respect someone who keeps their bragging to a minimum. The 'publicness' of the statement i'm 'a virgin' or 'i'm a straightedge' is just douchy. It's something CM Punk should just keep to himself. It'd be like wanting to do interviews for three years about how you beat your girlfriend to a pulp. It'd just be douchy.
This guy right here is totally right. Read his post all the way through because it sums up what your little hero is in real life. You defend him but yet if he was to see you at an airport or at a bar drinking he would treat you the same way hes treating Chris Brown. Wrestling fans are so backwards that they're killing the damn sport. Hate on guys like The Rock who comes back to put on a show for the fans, but support a guy who acts like hes above everyone else. Punk's little mommy issues are going to get him in trouble sooner or later. Shame he picked on a softer generation of rappers and wasnt around during the 90's. E-40 would've blasted his head off his shoulders like he almost did to Biggie.
 
Truth be told, I fucking HATE Chris Brown. I hate any musician that lip syncs their performances and has the balls to call themselves a musician or an artist. And the fact that he not only beat Rihanna but to the extent that he did makes me hate him even more.

Austin beat up Debra and that's definitely fucked up. But, I like that guy.

Just the truth.


Perspective.


By Mike Mooneyham

Aug. 22, 2004

It’s been several months since “Stone Cold” Steve Austin has rocked WWE rings, but the beer-swilling Texan is back in the news.

The Los Angeles Times reported last week that Austin got into a real-life altercation with ex-girlfriend Tess Broussard earlier this month at a Beverly Hills restaurant after allegedly offering her a sizable payoff to end their romance.

The two met at the restaurant to settle some differences, but the dinner turned violent when Austin offered Broussard a check for $1.5 million. Austin had hoped that the check would convince the 37-year-old actress to stay out of his life and to not pursue any legal actions against him from prior incidents in their rocky relationship. But Broussard, says Austin, became irate and refused to accept the breakup.


When George Vrabeck, the wrestler’s business manager, showed up at the restaurant with the check, Broussard reportedly got on top of a table and attacked Austin with a steak knife. Vrabeck’s left arm was accidentally cut in the scuffle before a security guard was able to handcuff Broussard to a chair. Broussard was later taken to jail and arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. She was released on $30,000 bail and is due in court on Sept. 1. Broussard and Austin offered different accounts of what actually happened.

Broussard called the incident a “fabricated assault,” implying Vrabeck stabbed himself, and claims to have filed a $10 million lawsuit against Austin for luring her to the restaurant to stage an assault. The suit also brings up a previous domestic abuse incident in Texas.

The former WWE champion said that he merely wanted to get some closure on the relationship by having dinner, issuing a check and reaching an agreement so he could move on with his life.

“I’m not a rocket scientist,” Austin told The Times. “But I knew I had to get out of this relationship … The plan was to go out, have a nice steak, hand (Broussard) a check and get on with my life.”

Broussard claims Austin has a drinking problem and that she suffered earlier physical abuse at his hands. Austin claims Broussard drank and took pills to excess. She says Austin forced her to take the pills.

“(Austin) turned into another character – mean, horrible, violent and emotionally abusive,” Broussard told The Times. “He drank every night, beginning at 6 p.m., until he would pass out around 1 a.m.” When it was noted that Austin claimed she had a problem with medication, she responded, “He got me started on pills. He’d open my mouth like an animal and stick the pills in my mouth. He said, if I’m taking them, you’re taking them, too.”

Austin, 39, denied the charge while admitting he takes a variety of prescription drugs, prescribed for insomnia and “neurological issues” stemming from his neck issues after suffering a serious ring injury in 1997.

Broussard says she was naive during their relationship. “He’d apologize and say he’d change and go to counseling, but he never did. He told me I was his soul mate, so I kept going back and really believed in the relationship. But it was a lot of empty promises.”

“I kept seeing her because, as kooky as she was, I still loved her,” said Austin. “I feel like I’ve been a pawn on the chessboard. I was too trusting and too nice, and that’s what I’ll have to live with.”

According to The Times article, Broussard threatened to tell tabloids about Austin if he broke up with her. The day after the incident, Austin went to agent Barry Bloom and hired a crisis management public relations team.

Broussard, who has worked as an actress in softcore films, has a resume that includes “Hollywood Sins,” “Sinful Temptations” and “Survivors Exposed.” Her Web site describes her as follows:

“Tess Broussard is a true Southern belle who moved to Los Angeles to pursue her education and a career path in the arts. After a lot of hard work and effort, Tess has established herself as an accomplished actress and model. Tess arrived in Los Angeles to pursue her education, graduating from Pepperdine University with a B.A. in advertising. After college, Tess challenged herself in a number of diverse work environments. She worked as an account executive at an advertising agency, as a paralegal, in public relations and in real estate, all while pursuing her dream of an acting and modeling career. After years of diligence and perseverance, this Eurasian beauty found success as a swimsuit model and spokesperson.



“Not a vacuous nor self-centered actress, Tess spends most of her free time giving back to the community as an active volunteer. She has been especially active at several local animal shelters. Her love for animals has resulted in her adoption of two cats and a dog named Lucky, Coal and Salvador Dali. Her other pastimes include staying physically fit, reading, traveling, meditation and appreciating modern art.”

The incident wasn’t the first time the couple has been involved in a domestic situation. The two made headlines in late March when Austin broke off the couple’s engagement. Broussard told police that she met with Austin to discuss their troubled yearlong relationship. But she said Austin became irritable and yelled, “I’m tired of talking about this —-. Shut up!” Broussard claimed that Austin grabbed her and threw her to the ground.

Austin claimed Broussard jumped on him and grabbed at a gold necklace he was given by the late Brian Pillman during the argument, which led to him shoving her away. Sources said that Austin had complained about her erratic behavior and had been trying to get her to leave for several weeks when the incident occurred.

At the time, Broussard told authorities that she “feared bodily injury.” Broussard claimed she had pictures taken for evidence, and was planning on pursuing charges. No charges, however, were ever filed and police determined no assault had taken place.

“I played everything down,” Broussard told The Times. “I got scared. He said he’d screw me over if I filed charges.” Austin denied that charge as well.

The National Enquirer reported another incident in which Broussard allegedly jumped out of Austin’s moving vehicle during an argument. Austin claimed that Broussard bit him as he made the call to authorities to report the incident. Broussard told police that Austin attempted to strike her with his vehicle, and called the police first in order to hide that fact. According to the tabloid’s report, the couple had been drinking earlier that night.

The tabloid reported that Broussard had left Austin’s San Antonio home, where she had been living since their breakup, to visit him at an apartment he had moved into after their previous domestic situation in an attempt to discuss a reconciliation of their relationship.

Apparently, while visiting, Broussard found e-mail correspondence from a “British female fan.” Later that night, as the couple was driving, Broussard accused Austin of being involved with the woman, which set off the argument.

In November 2002, Austin pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of assault for striking his then-wife, Debra Marshall Williams, during a June 2002 argument at their upscale San Antonio home. According to the police report, the altercation left Williams with a welt on her face and bruises on her back. Austin was fined $1,000, sentenced to a year’s probation, and ordered to perform 80 hours of community service and attend a domestic violence counseling course. The couple separated after the incident, attempted a reconciliation but split up for good in early 2003.

Austin, whose real name is Steve Williams, left WWE in April after being unable to come to terms on a new contractual agreement. He moved to Los Angeles where he has been staying with Diamond Dallas Page while pursuing an acting career. He is scheduled to play a prison guard in the new Adam Sandler movie “The Longest Yard.”

Austin has been married three times. His second marriage, to former valet Jeannie Clark, lasted four years and produced two children. His third marriage, to wrestling personality and former beauty queen Debra Marshall, lasted three years and ended in 2003.
 
I came here thinking I'll defend Austin over Brown because I was so damn sure that is where all this will go. I looked up material about both the guys and well I bet James Brown has done worse shit than Chris Brown.



In the days of the territories, lord almighty I don't think woman beating was ever as big an issue as it is. But it happened. Some of the wrestlers are on par as the scum of the earth yet they walk with their heads held high.


We really can't keep our personal feelings aside when judging Austin, I'll be honest, I can't. I mean I looked up to him as the baddest mofo on the planet. Every time some kid picked on me I could hear Austin's music in my head to pump me up so as to deliver an ass whooping. I flipped the bird to School Captain whose 8 years older and could've creamed me and still thought I was cool.


So I am embarassed saying this that I had this sinking feeling feeling in my stomach when I heard he hit Debra and I saw his mugshot. I loved the guy, thought he could do no wrong. Hell! a few weeks ago I was ready to start a thread saying 'When your hero let you down' in the old school section, but I didn't. It was depressing researching all the shit wrestlers have done.



I know he doesn't owe me to be perfect. I grew up and people would say this over the telly that superstars like your Wayne Rooneys or your John Terrys are not perfect but they should be because they are in the public eye. But they are living a life just like me? Sure they have much better income but that doesn't make them devoid of the follys of man.




So if they have all the inadequacies I have, they should be dealt the same punishment that I get for them. Fuck me, I believed in kayfabe longer than I'm proud of, but the Austin incident was a jolt that made me research and finally finished it for me. Everyone grows up someday I guess. I enjoyed the run.
 
The Austin incident seems inconclusive from that report. We know Brown apologized for his incident meaning he acknowledged that it was fault and that he did was he was alledged to have done, but I can't bring the gavel down one way or the other from the report you posted.
 
The fact that people are trying so hard to defend Brown is actually pretty funny. He is a little shit biscuit & nothing more.
 
I'm not so much defending Chris Brown for beating up Rihanna as I'm saying CM Punk is a douchebag for his straight edge, holier-than-thou lifestyle. We don't really know anything about Rihanna or Chris Brown or what happened because they never really go on record to say what really went down. CM Punk doesn't know anything more than you and me. All we really know is what the cops say and what reporters report. From what i've heard, i hate Chris Brown. But I'm sure there's way more to the story than he caught her looking through his phone. No one goes apeshit and kicks the shit out of someone for simply looking through their phone.

CM Punk can stand up for what he believes in all he wants. But what he believes in is stupid. I drink casually. I do not have anything against people who drink a lot. I have nothing against reformed alcoholics quitting and I have nothing wrong with people who have addictions problems quitting. If I had a problem i'd quit completely. But I don't, and I'm not scared to drink whenever I feel like it. I smoke casually once a month and usually only if there's weed going around. I don't touch hard drugs because I know they're much more addictive and have way worse consequences. I haven't had a drink or a smoke since New Years Eve. I don't have problems with alcohol or drugs. This guy's a wrestler and he doesn't drink. Fine. He doesn't smoke or do drugs. Even better. No roids? Awesome. But he goes to every length to brag about how amazing he is that he doesn't do anything bad. It's like he assumes that anyone who drinks automatically is addicted and he'd be addicted if he didn't reject it. It's lame. It's a made-for-PG TV-reality he's selling. The guy's a wrestler and he comes across like he fears the bottle. I have the power and discipline to moderate everything I do. To me, moderation is better than outright rejecting things you probably never gave a chance. The way CM Punk comes across to me is a guy who doesn't have enough real life experience. Sure, he's the WWE world champ. But he sees things as black and white. To him, if you consume alcohol or drugs then it consumes you. You either don't hit women because you are straight edge or you hit them because you're addicted to alcohol and drugs.

Bottom line is I don't trust anyone who refuses to drink or smoke once and a while. Either they are lying and saying that for attention or they are the most religious and backward idiot ever. I have respect for people who stand up for what they believe in. But I don't have as much respect for people who stand up for what they believe in but don't ever do the things they don't believe in to experience them before they pass judgment. Punk is like a 14 year old girl who vows to be a virgin till she's married and brags to everyone about how she will remain holier-than-thou. It's just hard to believe, and if it's true it's a bit dumb to marry someone without knowing if they're sexually compatible with you. Just like how it's dumb to resist the good time that comes with moderating alcohol because you're afraid of the consequences. You can respect a person for standing up for what she believes in when it comes to waiting to having a good time and fuck, but it's hard to respect the same person for not living life and gaining sexual experience first and then making a big decision like that. I find it harder to respect people who don't know how to moderate. It's also much easier to respect someone who keeps their bragging to a minimum. The 'publicness' of the statement i'm 'a virgin' or 'i'm a straightedge' is just douchy. It's something CM Punk should just keep to himself. It'd be like wanting to do interviews for three years about how you beat your girlfriend to a pulp. It'd just be douchy.

im getting tired of these, oh "you don't know what was going on." Comments. Well i'll just defend cm punk in the same way. ''You dont know what is going on in cm punks life. You have know idea if chris brown and him used to be friedns., You don't know if he is just a secret achoholic. So don't judge cause you don't know.''

Well back to my original point. Of course we don't know what exactly happend. All we really know is he beat the shit out of her. He beat her to a bloody pulp. He didn't take her to a hospital. Isn't that enough. He also is just a peice of garbage that acts like winning a grammy means that he better than his "haters''. He is also really arogant, cause he thinks that anyone that says anything about just wants his fame and are jealous. He also makes shitty musak.
 
The thing about Chris Brown winning a Grammy is that Rihanna probably demanded that he win some kind of award or she wouldn't show up. Chris Brown is not accomplished enough to win a Grammy by his own merit. Clive Davis and Jay Z basically run music and they know there's big dough recreating the Whitney-Bobby love/hate relationship. Might as well now that Whitney's gone.

But Dman is right about us not knowing what's going on in people's lives. Punk could be a secret alcoholic and Chris Brown could be a serial killer. I don't like much of what I see of CM Punk. I also don't like what I read about Chris Brown. But I have read much less about the guy, because he makes shit music. The way the Rhianna-beating incident is told makes me hope someone gives him a taste of his own medicine. But what if the Rihanna/Brown story was told a certain way not to destroy Rihanna's career? Brown takes all the heat to save Rihanna's career. If it ever came out that Rihanna was verbally and physically abusive to Brown and he finally snapped, that would hurt her innocent reputation and amazing career and damage his bad boy image. Her career and reputation is much more important, it lines the pockets of the millionaires who produce her. If Rhianna was an abusive freak, I'd think her PR people would pay whoever off to keep that under wraps. I may be looking for another answer that's not there but I'm open enough to realize we just don't know the whole story. We never do, especially when it comes to musicians who are way less accessible than 'wrestlers'. All I 'm saying is that if Rihanna was a terrible person, I don't think her PR people would ever let that come out. Rihanna's picture perfect image would be tainted if it came out that she was a psycho girlfriend and we'd look at her the same way we looked at Whitney Houston for the past 10-15 years. It was documented by the media that Bobby was an abusive fuck who beat poor Whitney. But then years later Whitney goes on record to say Bobby never hit her and that she was verbally and physically abusive toward him. Before all the drugs and back when Whitney was young and gorgeous, it was hard to ever imagine someone so cute being someone so vile. Houston made her people much more money when she was the hot young Rihanna-like chick of the late 80s and early 90s and Rihanna's people know it. But, i'll tell ya, looking at the photo of a beaten Rihanna and reading about Chris Brown's obvious lack of 'public' remorse makes me sick. What I read makes me feel like he's capable of going Chris Benoit on her. If he really was an abusive monster, i'd want someone to beat him to a pulp and show him what it feels like. Problem is all CM Punk can do is act like a little girl, there's nothing he can do about it but make empty threats like the hypocrite bully he is. Punk's verbally abusive and I have far more of a problem with verbal abuse than I do with physical abuse. Physical abuse is usually the result of verbal abuse, not the other way around.
 
I'm not so much defending Chris Brown for beating up Rihanna as I'm saying CM Punk is a douchebag for his straight edge, holier-than-thou lifestyle. We don't really know anything about Rihanna or Chris Brown or what happened because they never really go on record to say what really went down. CM Punk doesn't know anything more than you and me. All we really know is what the cops say and what reporters report. From what i've heard, i hate Chris Brown. But I'm sure there's way more to the story than he caught her looking through his phone. No one goes apeshit and kicks the shit out of someone for simply looking through their phone.

CM Punk can stand up for what he believes in all he wants. But what he believes in is stupid. I drink casually. I do not have anything against people who drink a lot. I have nothing against reformed alcoholics quitting and I have nothing wrong with people who have addictions problems quitting. If I had a problem i'd quit completely. But I don't, and I'm not scared to drink whenever I feel like it. I smoke casually once a month and usually only if there's weed going around. I don't touch hard drugs because I know they're much more addictive and have way worse consequences. I haven't had a drink or a smoke since New Years Eve. I don't have problems with alcohol or drugs. This guy's a wrestler and he doesn't drink. Fine. He doesn't smoke or do drugs. Even better. No roids? Awesome. But he goes to every length to brag about how amazing he is that he doesn't do anything bad. It's like he assumes that anyone who drinks automatically is addicted and he'd be addicted if he didn't reject it. It's lame. It's a made-for-PG TV-reality he's selling. The guy's a wrestler and he comes across like he fears the bottle. I have the power and discipline to moderate everything I do. To me, moderation is better than outright rejecting things you probably never gave a chance. The way CM Punk comes across to me is a guy who doesn't have enough real life experience. Sure, he's the WWE world champ. But he sees things as black and white. To him, if you consume alcohol or drugs then it consumes you. You either don't hit women because you are straight edge or you hit them because you're addicted to alcohol and drugs.

Bottom line is I don't trust anyone who refuses to drink or smoke once and a while. Either they are lying and saying that for attention or they are the most religious and backward idiot ever. I have respect for people who stand up for what they believe in. But I don't have as much respect for people who stand up for what they believe in but don't ever do the things they don't believe in to experience them before they pass judgment. Punk is like a 14 year old girl who vows to be a virgin till she's married and brags to everyone about how she will remain holier-than-thou. It's just hard to believe, and if it's true it's a bit dumb to marry someone without knowing if they're sexually compatible with you. Just like how it's dumb to resist the good time that comes with moderating alcohol because you're afraid of the consequences. You can respect a person for standing up for what she believes in when it comes to waiting to having a good time and fuck, but it's hard to respect the same person for not living life and gaining sexual experience first and then making a big decision like that. I find it harder to respect people who don't know how to moderate. It's also much easier to respect someone who keeps their bragging to a minimum. The 'publicness' of the statement i'm 'a virgin' or 'i'm a straightedge' is just douchy. It's something CM Punk should just keep to himself. It'd be like wanting to do interviews for three years about how you beat your girlfriend to a pulp. It'd just be douchy.

First of all, this is alllllll kinds of fucked up.

I'm going to go out on a limb and start this response off with the least important of what I have to say and it's this. CM Punk isn't AFRAID of alcohol or drugs. He's seen what it can do to people and chooses to be free of it. I met CM Punk at a BAR before, in Toronto. It was at a bar called Wayne Gretzkys, which is a pretty well known place in Toronto. The guy sat and talked with a whole bunch of fans for a couple hours. It was a BAR, so everyone was drinking. CM Punk didn't say a word about it, nor did he talk condescendingly to anyone, period. I don't blame him for hating Chris Brown for hitting a woman. Hitting a woman is completely inexcusable. He deserves every ounce of scrutiny he receives the rest of his life and then some.

Second, and more importantly; who in the FUCK made your opinion more important than anyone elses? You think someone who does something to BETTER themself (I know this may fucking astound you, but drinking and smoking, even a little bit, harm the body) is weak for not doing said things? The guys fucking father was an alcoholic. He saw what addiction can do and made a personal choice. You give people shit for idolizing Punk? You're an idiot. I respect the man for standing up proudly for what he believes in. Do *I* lay claim to the same beliefs? Fuck no. When I was younger, I used to do almost anything I could get my hands on. I never became addicted to anything and I'm lucky as hell for that, but that doesn't mean I hate on CM Punk for disliking things like that. Your opinions of people that don't smoke or drink are completely skewed and wrong. The way you view your own opionions come across like you're some sort of religious zealot. You think you're right and nothing anyone can say or do will sway you from your perch. I think it's funny that you damn Punk for preaching sXe while you do the same thing for the opposite. Hypocrite.
 
It wouldnt be the first time a "fan" accuses a celebrity of doing something. In the pic TMZ put up he doesnt look like hes running away with anyones phone. But a second thought it would be nice to see CB develop anger problems and for CM Punk to keep provoking him. Its not like CB is friends with a certain hip hop mogul that could have Punk "taken care of".
 
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First of all, this is alllllll kinds of fucked up.

I'm going to go out on a limb and start this response off with the least important of what I have to say and it's this. CM Punk isn't AFRAID of alcohol or drugs. He's seen what it can do to people and chooses to be free of it. I met CM Punk at a BAR before, in Toronto. It was at a bar called Wayne Gretzkys, which is a pretty well known place in Toronto. The guy sat and talked with a whole bunch of fans for a couple hours. It was a BAR, so everyone was drinking. CM Punk didn't say a word about it, nor did he talk condescendingly to anyone, period.
Because it was a bar bro, with real grown men inside, not 22 year old R&B singers. Punk would never tell a real thug that drinking is irresponsible to his face. Get the idea out of your head that this man is the slightest bit tougher than the rest of the world. Goldberg was also trained in MMA and Jericho choked his ass out backstage. Punks whole outlook on drinking is ridiculous. He thinks that because his daddy was a drinker and couldnt handle it that taking one drink of beer is going to turn the average person into a monster. I know drinkers who are great people. Punk has some serious mommy issue for this alone.

I don't blame him for hating Chris Brown for hitting a woman. Hitting a woman is completely inexcusable. He deserves every ounce of scrutiny he receives the rest of his life and then some.
For the rest of his life? Really? Thats completely illogical. Who the fuck said you're any better than him? What if people held something against you for the rest of your life? How would you feel? Fuck off your high horse dude and realize that at the end of the day Chris is as human as you or me.
Second, and more importantly; who in the FUCK made your opinion more important than anyone elses? You think someone who does something to BETTER themself (I know this may fucking astound you, but drinking and smoking, even a little bit, harm the body) is weak for not doing said things? The guys fucking father was an alcoholic. He saw what addiction can do and made a personal choice. You give people shit for idolizing Punk? You're an idiot. I respect the man for standing up proudly for what he believes in. Do *I* lay claim to the same beliefs? Fuck no. When I was younger, I used to do almost anything I could get my hands on. I never became addicted to anything and I'm lucky as hell for that, but that doesn't mean I hate on CM Punk for disliking things like that. Your opinions of people that don't smoke or drink are completely skewed and wrong. The way you view your own opionions come across like you're some sort of religious zealot. You think you're right and nothing anyone can say or do will sway you from your perch. I think it's funny that you damn Punk for preaching sXe while you do the same thing for the opposite. Hypocrite.
Punks view on drinking is just illogical. He doesnt just make a personal choice, he makes sure that everyone who doesnt want to hear about it knows it too. Hes the epitome of a religious nutcase. I dont drink or smoke but you dont see me on TV reminding people of it every damn day. Punk believes hes better than all of you who kiss his ass all the time. One drink isnt going to make anyone an addict. I know lifelong drinkers who can stop and have stopped. They never beat anyone to a pulp or were an abusive father. Punk acts like a little whiny bitch because of his unfortunate life and mark my words karma exists and hes getting a helluva lot of it soon.
 

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