CM Punk vs. Chris Brown Twitter Beef

[Shocky]

It sounds like you have some issues. Did big bad Mr. Punk turn you away when you wanted an autograph or something?

 

[H33LTurn]

It sounds like you have some issues. Did big bad Mr. Punk turn you away when you wanted an autograph or something?

You've reached a whole new level of ********ing if you have to turn this around on me to keep your point relevant. I have never praised Punk, and never will. Hes a glorified stunt boy. I wouldnt ask Punk for a autograph even if I was a fan because hes made it clear from the beginning that he dislikes stopping to give fans autographs. Some of you just cant grasp the fact that the outside world (yes, theres an outside world away from the 10% fanboys known as the IWC) doesnt think as highly of Punk as you do. Open your eyes and realize that Punk has had as many public outbursts as Chris Brown. Chris beat a girl, Punk harassed a child, Chris told haters to fuck off, Punk told a guy he has a vagina because he had a fauxhawk and was doing what a fan is supposed to do and boo the person they dont like. CB supposedly stole a girls phone, Punk is supposedly going to kick Chris' ass.

 

[Shocky]

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Do yourself a favor and fast forward to the :40 second mark. Please tell me when CM Punk ever tried to convert someone to straight edge? You have no fucking concept of when a guy is in character and when a guy is being himself. Everything that you try to throw at Punk is shit while he's in character at or around a live event. You have absolutely no fucking ammo whatsoever to ride down CM Punk. Your arguments are just pure horseshit.

As far as no one knowing about CM Punk. Just go back to last summer when Jim Rome did an entire segment and offered him 45 minutes of air time to finish his rant. Go back to last summer and read the articles Bill Simmons did. CM Punk might no be a megastar like The Rock, Austin, Hogan or Cena, but he certainly is starting to get his name out there.

Bottomline, you support a woman beater. Your arguments against Punk are pure shit and get blown up as soon as you post. You try to criticize a man that decided to not put mind altering substances into his body because his father battled demons. You continue to throw this bullshit of Punk has "Mommy issues", yet his mom was sitting in the first fucking row when he won his first WWE championship.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

Because it was a bar bro, with real grown men inside, not 22 year old R&B singers. Punk would never tell a real thug that drinking is irresponsible to his face.

Woah. Guess you know him personally.

Get the idea out of your head that this man is the slightest bit tougher than the rest of the world. Goldberg was also trained in MMA and Jericho choked his ass out backstage.

Goldberg was also the same guy who nearly lost his arm thrusting it through a glass window. I wouldn't consider him a good torch-bearer for the practicing MMA student.

Punks whole outlook on drinking is ridiculous. He thinks that because his daddy was a drinker and couldnt handle it that taking one drink of beer is going to turn the average person into a monster. I know drinkers who are great people. Punk has some serious mommy issue for this alone.

Once again, you seem to be very well acquainted with his personal motives. Is he a friend of yours? Do you talk about these things often?

For the rest of his life? Really?

Yes. He should be marred forever. He may be forgiven by people in time, that's another issue, but he should never be allowed to forget nor the people who surround him. That's what should remind him that he did wrong and what should drive him to behave differently.

That's completely illogical.

Nope. Just another mode of thinking, probably more favorable than your own.

Who the fuck said you're any better than him?

Well I don't know him, but unless he's done anything more criminal and depraved than what the man you're defending has done, than most people would say he's better. The law, other people, y'know - everyone.

What if people held something against you for the rest of your life? How would you feel?

Obviously can't really answer for him, but me it depends what it is. And if it was something like that I'd fully understand and appreciate when people weren't quick to extend a hand to me for the rest of my life, but I'd know that what I had done was wrong and I deserved to reap the consequences of that action, and if that happens to be a consequence then so be it. Honestly, Brown has got off so easy compared to some people, if he were any kind of a guy he'd humbly just take it on the chin and try to prove he's changed. Obviously, that hasn't really happened.

Fuck off your high horse dude and realize that at the end of the day Chris is as human as you or me.

And that's why, as a human being, he should sympathize with the idea that what he did is going to haunt him forever, understand why that is and not try to make himself look any worse than he already does.

Punks view on drinking is just illogical. He doesnt just make a personal choice, he makes sure that everyone who doesnt want to hear about it knows it too.

Pretty sure he never mentions his lifestyle choices unless it's part of his wrestling character and the current story or if he's actually asked by somebody outside of wrestling. He doesn't go around in real life and say 'I'M STRAIGHT EDGE AND YOUR'E ALL SUBSTANCE ABUSERS AND TERRIBLE PEOPLE'. Least not in the instances I'VE seen him.

He's the epitome of a religious nutcase.

If you leave out the religious part.... oh, and the bit about the nutcase. Does he tell other people how to live? NO! But you can appreciate his views given his background and also given how many people every year die and suffer from the things he's trying to avoid.

I dont drink or smoke but you dont see me on TV reminding people of it every damn day.

You don't like to exaggerate, do you?

Punk believes hes better than all of you who kiss his ass all the time.

Psst. Can you toss me the key to open up the door to all of Punk's inner most thoughts? Wouldn't mind having a traipse around his brain too. Where are you getting this from man. Hunches, or can you actually not separate kayfabe from reality?

One drink isnt going to make anyone an addict. I know lifelong drinkers who can stop and have stopped.They never beat anyone to a pulp or were an abusive father.

Good for them. But they've probably suffered for it, medically, mentally, or even just fiscally. Plus I don't think Punk has ever made a claim to the contrary of the first sentence. And you're lucky if your 'friends' happened not to be aggressive drunks, but you ought to acknowledge that it's something that happens and it happens often because of drink.

Punk acts like a little whiny bitch because of his unfortunate life and mark my words karma exists and hes getting a helluva lot of it soon.

I know yeah. People who've experienced misfortunes and have tried to live their life learning from them, people who are driven by passion and always stand up for what they believe in, people who try to spread a positive message to help other people and potentially improve the quality of their life, people who dare to criticize a man because that man who can't mediate his testosterone long enough to stop him from pulverizing a defenseless woman.

THESE are the people we need less of, correct?

Before I read that last statement I thought you were only an idiot and was ready to leave it there, but afterwards I realize you're also an absolute ********. At the very worst, Punk is guilty by your own admission of being a 'whiny bitch' for good reason, and you acknowledge Brown is guilty of being a domestic abuser. Why in god's name do you defend him?

 

[Ubiquitous]

Because it was a bar bro, with real grown men inside, not 22 year old R&B singers. Punk would never tell a real thug that drinking is irresponsible to his face. Get the idea out of your head that this man is the slightest bit tougher than the rest of the world. Goldberg was also trained in MMA and Jericho choked his ass out backstage. Punks whole outlook on drinking is ridiculous. He thinks that because his daddy was a drinker and couldnt handle it that taking one drink of beer is going to turn the average person into a monster. I know drinkers who are great people. Punk has some serious mommy issue for this alone.


For the rest of his life? Really? Thats completely illogical. Who the fuck said you're any better than him? What if people held something against you for the rest of your life? How would you feel? Fuck off your high horse dude and realize that at the end of the day Chris is as human as you or me.

Punks view on drinking is just illogical. He doesnt just make a personal choice, he makes sure that everyone who doesnt want to hear about it knows it too. Hes the epitome of a religious nutcase. I dont drink or smoke but you dont see me on TV reminding people of it every damn day. Punk believes hes better than all of you who kiss his ass all the time. One drink isnt going to make anyone an addict. I know lifelong drinkers who can stop and have stopped. They never beat anyone to a pulp or were an abusive father. Punk acts like a little whiny bitch because of his unfortunate life and mark my words karma exists and hes getting a helluva lot of it soon.

Lol. You mad bro?

No but seriously. You're a fucking idiot. If I ever HIT A WOMAN, I would never EXPECT anyone NOT to hold it against me. Honestly, the ONLY punishment that would fit a crime like that, is that Chris "Ihitwomanbecauseimahugebitch" Brown should have "WOMANBEATER" tattooed across his forehead in fucking neon. I, as well as anyone else in here, even you (although to a much lesser extent, seeing as you openly support beating women, apparently) are better than him.

Why do you think that JUST because he doesn't want to drink, he has mommy issues? Show me your fucking doctorite in Psychology. You're just all pissy because people have a legitimate arguement as to why your idol is scum of the earth. Plain and simple. You continue to argue for no other reason than you can't accept that. I honestly can't grasp your logic. Your arguement that he thinks one drink makes people an addict is inane. People have proven already, IN THIS THREAD, that IN REAL LIFE (that means away from anything wrestling related, just incase you can't grasp that concept) he doesn't preach the straightedge lifestyle AT ALL. He only LIVES it. The preaching of straightedge is a CHARECTER. I'm sure some of these words have to be getting through to you. One more time. HE - DOES - NOT - DO - THAT - IN - REAL - LIFE. So, once you have a rebuttal with some sort of LOGICAL grounds, please get back to me.

 

[H33LTurn]

Woah. Guess you know him personally.

If all of you can judge Chris Brown without knowing him personally, I can judge Punk. Hes not going after Mayweather, Mike Tyson, or Steve Austin over abuse. Hes riding the Chris Brown bandwagon and challenging a 22 year old R&B singer to a fight.

Goldberg was also the same guy who nearly lost his arm thrusting it through a glass window. I wouldn't consider him a good torch-bearer for the practicing MMA student.

Putting your fist through glass has nothing to do with MMA dipshit. Stunts can go wrong in a wrestling show. This legit fight ended in disaster because just like Punk, Goldberg was full of his own shit and his time the time had come for him to learn his lesson.

Once again, you seem to be very well acquainted with his personal motives. Is he a friend of yours? Do you talk about these things often?

He was the one who said the little pitty story about his daddy drinking. Boo hoo, so his daddy used to drink while he probably beat his mom, I think someone who beats their wife doesnt need liquor for inspiration.

Yes. He should be marred forever. He may be forgiven by people in time, that's another issue, but he should never be allowed to forget nor the people who surround him. That's what should remind him that he did wrong and what should drive him to behave differently.

Ok listen, hes had 3 years of bullshit thrown at him and counting. At first, yeah people should've gave him hell. But theres a line as to how bad you can treat someone before you turn them into a bad person. Chris was probably humbled when he was reminded that there are kids who look up to him. He was probably humbled when he saw the pictures of someone hes supposed to love all bloodied and battered. Every single waking day of the last three years, 1,095 days and counting have been filled with nothing more than reminding Chris Brown that he beat Rhianna up. Isnt that enough for you. I think if for 1,065 days straight I explained the same point to you it would be more than enough time for you to get it.

Nope. Just another mode of thinking, probably more favorable than your own.

Of course its more favorable than mine, one allows you to ride a high horse and pretend that Chris Brown isnt human and that we're all better than him and the other requires you to use those scary things...you know... compassion, understanding, maturity.

Well I don't know him, but unless he's done anything more criminal and depraved than what the man you're defending has done, than most people would say he's better. The law, other people, y'know - everyone.

The media gets a kick out of reporting everything that goes wrong in a celebrities life. To mature people who understand this, CB is a man who beat a woman. To people who choose to be ignorant, hes a womanbeater. Theres a huge difference.

Obviously can't really answer for him, but me it depends what it is. And if it was something like that I'd fully understand and appreciate when people weren't quick to extend a hand to me for the rest of my life, but I'd know that what I had done was wrong and I deserved to reap the consequences of that action, and if that happens to be a consequence then so be it. Honestly, Brown has got off so easy compared to some people, if he were any kind of a guy he'd humbly just take it on the chin and try to prove he's changed. Obviously, that hasn't really happened.

The fact is you wouldnt be saying "thank you for hating me and wishing that I die" to all the haters. Its like bullying only you cant transfer schools. Maybe you should think about a time when people treated you like shit and imagine that same feeling 24/7, then you'd understand. None of you are approaching Chris and telling him you legit feel he needs some help. You call him names, bash him, and bring up old news as if you're all better than him. Do what you want, just dont get surprised when he gets sick of the bullshit and dishes it right back at everyone else.

And that's why, as a human being, he should sympathize with the idea that what he did is going to haunt him forever, understand why that is and not try to make himself look any worse than he already does.

The point is theres no reason for it to haunt him forever. Thats like saying someone who breaks their arm should be forced to wear a cast forever. For a while it might help for preventative measures and remind the person to be careful, but eventually you're going to want to break free from it and do something else with your arm.

Pretty sure he never mentions his lifestyle choices unless it's part of his wrestling character and the current story or if he's actually asked by somebody outside of wrestling. He doesn't go around in real life and say 'I'M STRAIGHT EDGE AND YOUR'E ALL SUBSTANCE ABUSERS AND TERRIBLE PEOPLE'. Least not in the instances I'VE seen him.

The point is he holds himself to such a high degree because he doesnt drink. Ok, we get you, now can you please stop bragging about it.

If you leave out the religious part.... oh, and the bit about the nutcase. Does he tell other people how to live? NO! But you can appreciate his views given his background and also given how many people every year die and suffer from the things he's trying to avoid.

No I cant. Its stupid precaution. I know people who have gotten into car accidents, does that mean I should never drive a car? The way Punk acts about drinking its like he believes hes as compulsive as his father. The only reason you go to those lengths to avoid a substance is if you know you cant resist it.

You don't like to exaggerate, do you?

The day the x's are gone from Punks fists and I never hear the phrase straightedge I'll let him off the hook.

Psst. Can you toss me the key to open up the door to all of Punk's inner most thoughts? Wouldn't mind having a traipse around his brain too. Where are you getting this from man. Hunches, or can you actually not separate kayfabe from reality?

Oh I can most definitely separate kayfabe from real life. Thats why I dont see anything special about a guy who refuses to talk and sign autographs for the people who made him and gets his nose into other people's business.

Good for them. But they've probably suffered for it, medically, mentally, or even just fiscally. Plus I don't think Punk has ever made a claim to the contrary of the first sentence. And you're lucky if your 'friends' happened not to be aggressive drunks, but you ought to acknowledge that it's something that happens and it happens often because of drink.

Nope they're all fine and living testaments of how much bullshit Punk's philosophy is.

I know yeah. People who've experienced misfortunes and have tried to live their life learning from them, people who are driven by passion and always stand up for what they believe in, people who try to spread a positive message to help other people and potentially improve the quality of their life, people who dare to criticize a man because that man who can't mediate his testosterone long enough to stop him from pulverizing a defenseless woman.

THESE are the people we need less of, correct?

Before I read that last statement I thought you were only an idiot and was ready to leave it there, but afterwards I realize you're also an absolute ********. At the very worst, Punk is guilty by your own admission of being a 'whiny bitch' for good reason, and you acknowledge Brown is guilty of being a domestic abuser. Why in god's name do you defend him?

[/QUOTE]
I dont defend him for beating Rhianna. Domestic violence is wrong. ITS WRONG. BAD. EVIL. VERY VERY NOT GOOD. Its time to let go though. If you dont like Brown, his music, or Rhianna thats fine and dandy. But dont hold a 3 year offense against a guy who the law deemed had paid his debt to society. The hate you guys spew against him is CLEARLY not helping. In fact, its making things worse. Chris wasnt as erratic as he is now until people started to treat him like shit. Maybe if you lead him by example and show him what compassion and forgiveness is, he'll follow your example. But all you show him is hate, so dont be surprised if he embraces the hate (didnt think this would lead to a kane reference.

 

[H33LTurn]

Lol. You mad bro?

No but seriously. You're a fucking idiot. If I ever HIT A WOMAN, I would never EXPECT anyone NOT to hold it against me. Honestly, the ONLY punishment that would fit a crime like that, is that Chris "Ihitwomanbecauseimahugebitch" Brown should have "WOMANBEATER" tattooed across his forehead in fucking neon. I, as well as anyone else in here, even you (although to a much lesser extent, seeing as you openly support beating women, apparently) are better than him.

Oh you just ooze maturity bro.

Why do you think that JUST because he doesn't want to drink, he has mommy issues? Show me your fucking doctorite in Psychology. You're just all pissy because people have a legitimate arguement as to why your idol is scum of the earth. Plain and simple. You continue to argue for no other reason than you can't accept that. I honestly can't grasp your logic. Your arguement that he thinks one drink makes people an addict is inane. People have proven already, IN THIS THREAD, that IN REAL LIFE (that means away from anything wrestling related, just incase you can't grasp that concept) he doesn't preach the straightedge lifestyle AT ALL. He only LIVES it. The preaching of straightedge is a CHARECTER. I'm sure some of these words have to be getting through to you. One more time. HE - DOES - NOT - DO - THAT - IN - REAL - LIFE. So, once you have a rebuttal with some sort of LOGICAL grounds, please get back to me.

Go to the video he sent in about Chris Brown and skip to the part where he mentions that hes straightedge. Kinda just blew away your entire rant. You're just mad because your idol is a hypocrite. CM Punk is soooo into the Chris Brown hysteria hes starting to look like Wendy Williams when he should be worrying about carrying the torch for the younger guys in the WWE.

 

[DirtyD79]

This could be a work. Chris Brown has said in the past, that he is a life long wrestling fan and why would Punk bring this up, out of thin air?

That and why would WWE even bother giving the guy any publicity if it wasn't to build up to a match or something? Lots of people talk shit on Punk yet WWE never mentions them specifically on their programs and on JR's blog.

 

[Ubiquitous]

You're honestly a moron. The only reason he says he's straightedge is to quell the fact that Chris Brown said he did steroids. He didn't start off the video going "Hey, I'm CM Punk and I'm straightedge, and everyone that isn't straightedge is a bunch of morons and ******s."

Horrible arguement. I thought I told you to come back when you had something noteworthy to say.

Oh, I also forgot to mention the part where even if CM Punk WAS a hypocrite (which he isn't, nice try), supporting a hypocrite is still WORLDS better than supporting some bitch ass woman beater.

 

[H33LTurn]

You're honestly a moron. The only reason he says he's straightedge is to quell the fact that Chris Brown said he did steroids. He didn't start off the video going "Hey, I'm CM Punk and I'm straightedge, and everyone that isn't straightedge is a bunch of morons and ******s."

Horrible arguement. I thought I told you to come back when you had something noteworthy to say.

Oh, I also forgot to mention the part where even if CM Punk WAS a hypocrite (which he isn't, nice try), supporting a hypocrite is still WORLDS better than supporting some bitch ass woman beater.

You sound like an angry fanboy. At least most of the people replying to me are giving semi logical arguments. You think your passion for Punk is going to get you through this argument and its not. Calling Chris Brown a woman beater because he hit Rhianna 3 years ago is like calling Michael Jackson alive because he was alive 3 years ago. The past doesnt necessarily determine who someone is. Punk constantly makes a fool of himself. And unlike Chris Brown he doesnt apologize and move on. Living in the past is a dangerous thing, because once everyone else moves on you look stupid. people will milk the Chris Brown thing for what its worth but in a couple of years someone else will come around and make a mistake and while you spend your time bashing them (as if they cared) Chris Brown will be living it up with his gf, whoever it be at the time, rich and famous.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

This whole scenario has John Cena vs K-Fed written all over......

 

[Ubiquitous]

You sound like an angry fanboy. At least most of the people replying to me are giving semi logical arguments. You think your passion for Punk is going to get you through this argument and its not. Calling Chris Brown a woman beater because he hit Rhianna 3 years ago is like calling Michael Jackson alive because he was alive 3 years ago. The past doesnt necessarily determine who someone is. Punk constantly makes a fool of himself. And unlike Chris Brown he doesnt apologize and move on. Living in the past is a dangerous thing, because once everyone else moves on you look stupid. people will milk the Chris Brown thing for what its worth but in a couple of years someone else will come around and make a mistake and while you spend your time bashing them (as if they cared) Chris Brown will be living it up with his gf, whoever it be at the time, rich and famous.

Lol. Your arguments are completely moot. The difference between that moron Chris Brown and Michael Jackson is that he WAS alive 3 years ago, and now ISN'T. Chris Brown was a woman beating douchebag 3 years ago, and now is still the exact same douchebag, who could very well still be beating women that AREN'T famous. I'm not even trying to insult you when I say your arguements are moronic. They just are. You keep trying and trying, and really you just look like a complete jackass. I don't give a fuck how Chris Brown lives. He still deserves to burn like the stupid fuck he is for the stupid shit he did. If you can't judge a person for what they've done, what do you judge them for? The stuff they've yet to do? Exactly. The guy is a jackass, and has continued to show that he's a jackass. Much like you've been doing. After your last reply, you've just proved your not worth anyones time, especially mine. I'm not even going to bother reading anything you will inevitably reply, because you can't grasp simple fucking concepts, such as logic. Hope you have yourself a great night, full of dreams of beaten women, and whatever stupidly sick shit you support.

 

[H33LTurn]

Lol. Your arguments are completely moot. The difference between that moron Chris Brown and Michael Jackson is that he WAS alive 3 years ago, and now ISN'T. Chris Brown was a woman beating douchebag 3 years ago, and now is still the exact same douchebag, who could very well still be beating women that AREN'T famous. I'm not even trying to insult you when I say your arguements are moronic. They just are. You keep trying and trying, and really you just look like a complete jackass. I don't give a fuck how Chris Brown lives. He still deserves to burn like the stupid fuck he is for the stupid shit he did. If you can't judge a person for what they've done, what do you judge them for? The stuff they've yet to do? Exactly. The guy is a jackass, and has continued to show that he's a jackass. Much like you've been doing. After your last reply, you've just proved your not worth anyones time, especially mine. I'm not even going to bother reading anything you will inevitably reply, because you can't grasp simple fucking concepts, such as logic. Hope you have yourself a great night, full of dreams of beaten women, and whatever stupidly sick shit you support.

aww thats so cute you're trying to paint me as a villain. Some of you have selective reading so maybe its best that this argument ends. I dont know how many pages worth of posts its going to take to explain to you that while Chris Brown did something wrong it was in the past. Like we all do somethign wrong in the past. You all have biased opinions on Chris, probably cuz you're all white boys scared of the big bad rappers who have the balls to tell their haters to fuck off and smile as they hold up their gold. If Punk wanted to take a shot at domestic violence and have an actual fight he'd go call Money Maywether or mike tyson, two huge pro wrestling fans who are trained athletes. Calling out Chris Brown makes him look like a gossipy little girl. And while you burn with the desire to see CB suffer, he never will burn for what hes done. He'll live out the rest of his life having legions of fans and enjoying all the money he has while you sit behind a computer trying to judge someone else's life and relationship while you lack both. Enjoy CM Punks hypocrisy while it lasts, hes 38 so he'll be gone soon unless one of CB's rap buddies gets tired of his ass and shoots him.

 

[Peoples_Champ]

I don't like Chris Brown, but personally, I had no problem with him beating the shit out of Rihanna. Besides, twitter beef is ridiculous. The only reason for this is to get extra pre-Wrestlemania hype.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

I don't like Chris Brown, but personally, I had no problem with him beating the shit out of Rihanna. Besides, twitter beef is ridiculous. The only reason for this is to get extra pre-Wrestlemania hype.

Twitter beef is whats bringing us Rock vs Cena @WM28... damn now because of that, I hate twitter

 

[Max Headroom]

aww thats so cute you're trying to paint me as a villain. Some of you have selective reading so maybe its best that this argument ends. I dont know how many pages worth of posts its going to take to explain to you that while Chris Brown did something wrong it was in the past. Like we all do somethign wrong in the past. You all have biased opinions on Chris, probably cuz you're all white boys scared of the big bad rappers who have the balls to tell their haters to fuck off and smile as they hold up their gold. If Punk wanted to take a shot at domestic violence and have an actual fight he'd go call Money Maywether or mike tyson, two huge pro wrestling fans who are trained athletes. Calling out Chris Brown makes him look like a gossipy little girl. And while you burn with the desire to see CB suffer, he never will burn for what hes done. He'll live out the rest of his life having legions of fans and enjoying all the money he has while you sit behind a computer trying to judge someone else's life and relationship while you lack both. Enjoy CM Punks hypocrisy while it lasts, hes 38 so he'll be gone soon unless one of CB's rap buddies gets tired of his ass and shoots him.

Okay dude, the fact you think Chris Brown raps shows you don't know sweet fuck. He may TRY to rap, but rap most certainly don't come from his mouth. Go listen to some Hopsin or something for real rap.

But, this isn't about shitty rap, this is about wrestling. This is about how wrong you are, in everything you posted in this thread. There will be no fight because Brown is to busy brown-fingering himself thinking about beating chicks up to go fight a real man in Punk.

Last of all, CB's "rap buddies"??? No real rapper likes or wants anything to do with him, you have no grip on wrestling OR rap/music. Good job bro, you're one of them people we all want to see fall victim to the great Darwin theory.

That's all folks.

 

[D-Man]

So the fact that he has a physical talent should be overshadowed by the personal bias of a few? No way.

Physical talent? You mean his gift of being able to beat a senseless woman to a bloody pulp and toss chairs and give attitude when questioned about it?

The people in the music industry are professional enough to forgive.

That's because the majority of them are fuck-ups, anyway. It's just that no one seems to find out about it until it's too late. Perfect example, Whitney Houston. Speaking of which...

Whitney Houston used drugs, that doesnt mean they were going to turn their backs on her a day after she died.

You're actually going to compare Chris Brown to Whitney Houston? That's like comparing Zack Ryder to The Rock. You're such a fucking moron.

Its been 3 years since the Chris Brown incident. If they overlooked the fact that Whitney probably od'ed a day before the tribute they did to her, they can most certainly overlook old news. And it really is old news.

Convicted sex offenders have a blemished record for at least 15 years. Chris Brown beat a woman and is back to performing. Amazing how someone who gets caught beating off in front of someone's window gets a more severe punishment than someone who beats a weaker person of the opposite sex into submission, forcing them to be hospitalized.

How's that for perspective?

Once Brown catches this shit for 15 years, then start sucking him off to others like myself and the majority of posters in this thread. Until then, shut up because, like it or not, you're supporting his wrong-doing.

Nobody was filling up internet forums with Chris Brown hate until the internet darling mentioned his name.

And no one was really mentioning Whitney Houston until she drowned in her own fucking bathtub. What's your point?

But you have no basis to judge him on that. Thats like if you saw me trip on my shoelaces one day, then almost fall down the stairs the other day, I'm automatically a clumsy person in your eyes for life? Of course not, that sort of logic doesnt work anywhere.

Man, you'll bring up anything remotely similar to Brown's situation in order to make him look like a hero, won't you? How in the name of BLUE FUCK does tripping on shoelaces have to do with woman-beating? I feel like I'm becoming more stupid just from reading your ridiculous responses.

That was a problem. In comparison to guys who wear wife beaters and sit at home waiting for their wives to come home so they can spent the next 10 or so years beating them in front of their children, Chris Brown looks like a saint.

So, if I murder someone, as long as I don't come from the trailer park or any other stereotypical lifestyle then I should be held to a lesser standard or penalty than someone who wears a black trench coat and lives in the gutter?

She invited him to her birthday party and collaborated with him on two songs. If you ever had the chance to speak with a woman whos been abused for real she would be the first to tell you that if she still hated her husband she would invite him to a party or sing with him. She'd say the hell away from him.

Women also blame themselves for being beaten by their spouses. Even if it wasn't remotely their fault. Couple that with the fact that they're both social and pop culture icons and need to stay civil in the public eye and you've got my response to that statement.

"Brown pleaded guilty to a felony and accepted a plea deal of community labor, five years' formal probation and domestic violence counseling" -Chris's wikipedia.

He already had counseling and apologized.

#1 - Wikipedia is not a reliable source, you twit.
#2 - If this were true (which I believe it is), then why doesn't he have a shred of regret about what he did? Why does he continue to show signs of anger and have episodes like tossing chairs and destroying hotel rooms because he was asked a few questions about the past incident? A HUGE part of therapy is coming to terms with your past mistakes. This guy is still a scourge to society, hence the reason why he keeps getting pressured about it from the media.

But of course, you won't agree with that because your too busy sucking him off in this thread.

No, how about you lose your temper and get caught on TV. You're a wrestler and have been working for years and finally made it to Cenas status. Instead of asking you question on the main event at Mania I keep asking you about the stupid thing you did, knowing it could jeopardize everything you've worked so hard for. Interviews plan interviews ahead of their time. I'm pretty certain Chris said no questions about Rhianna and the person interviewing him ignored that, knowing that he had an album to promote. Its pretty understandable to lose ones cool there. Not everyones going to sit there and be a pussy while an interviewer demonizes them.

If this was such a problem for him, he never should have become famous. If you can't handle the spotlight, get the fuck out of it. Do you or him honestly think he's the only person to ever be ridiculed or harassed by the media for something he had done in the past? What's done is done and he needs to handle it like a man, not like a childish prick on a temper tantrum.

You need a lesson in humanity. I dont know how many apologies Chris has to send out before you guys just forgive him. You eventually get tired of kissing people's asses, I'll tell you that much. Maybe if people were nicer to him, he'd follow their example and be humble. But while people are curising him out dont expect him to back up into a little corner and call you all individually on the phone and give you a tearful apology. When people treat you bad, you treat them bad. Thats just how life goes. As long as he makes money and is happy with his life why should he care if you forgive him?

Ahhh, the spiteful response. So, he should play nice until he loses his patience again, and when that happens, then it's a big FUCK YOU to us because we refuse to see his side of it, right?

If the guy said a few derogatory things on television, shoplifted, or did some other kind of harmless breaking of the law, people wouldn't be this way. The guy BEAT UP A WOMAN TO THE POINT WHERE HER FACE WAS BLOODY, SWOLLEN, AND DISHEVELED, SENDING HER TO THE HOSPITAL IN THE PROCESS. He didn't steal a car... he caused physical harm to a weaker human being. And he's being disrespectful to everyone because, even after all of that community service and half-hearted apologies that he's given to the media, he still can't own up to and accept what he had done. So, fuck him and fuck you for continuing to defend him.

 

[Davi323]

Exactly, D-Man.

Chris Brown's apology was not genuine, it was a typical celebrity "I am only apologizing because my publicist says I have to" kind of apology. Like when a parent demands that a child who misbehaves apologizes. They say sorry because they are being forced to, not because they genuinely feel remorse for what they did.

What's done is done and he needs to handle it like a man, not like a childish prick on a temper tantrum.

This is the part that H33LTurn is having the most difficulty understanding...It's not that he fucked up, everyone fucks up somehow, at some point in their lives...what matters the most is how you react to that fuck up, whether you learned from it, whether you took responsibility for it, etc.

After the Grammys, were Chris Brown a man, he would have said "I want to take this time to humbly apologize to Rhianna again, and ask for her forgiveness. What I did to her was simply inexcusable, and I promise I will never let my anger get the best of me again. To those of you who think it was poor taste for me to perform at the Grammys, I say, that I am not that guy anymore. I was a young, dumb punk when I lashed out at Rhianna like that. That is not the person I am now, I had a lot of anger back then, I strive every day to improve myself, and I am sorry if I offended anyone with my actions."

Not

"FUCK OFF, I won a Grammy, mother fuckers."

 

[Sparky]

CM Punk - Known for his job

Chris Brown - Not really known for his job.

lol, while filling my little bro in about this, my mum overheard me talking about it. her words not mine...

"Isn't Chris Brown Whitney Houston's Ex?"

 

[BaconBits]

Welp, apparently Chris Brown stole some random woman's cell phone in Miami last weekend. He hasn't changed much. This kinda proves it.

I still think they're both complete fucking ******s.

 

[Peoples_Champ]

Twitter beef is whats bringing us Rock vs Cena @WM28... damn now because of that, I hate twitter

... I see what you did there.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

Last one.

If all of you can judge Chris Brown without knowing him personally, I can judge Punk.

I'm judging him only on things which are fully established as true, things that he himself and others acknowledge that he did. Those things being 1) Attacking a woman. 2) Throwing a fit when somebody asked him about it and trashing a hotel room subsequently. Perhaps the rest of the time he's a saint, gives to charity, gives homeless rides in his private airplane, saves starving children, but based on what is already established it's not very likely is it?

On the other hand, what you are doing with your analysis of Punk is ENTIRELY speculative. You say he feels superior to Punk, yet you have no evidence, no indication to tell yourself or others that this is the case. The rest you can come up with is anything he's said and done when he was IN CHARACTER as a WRESTLER. Grand Canyon's width of difference.

Hes not going after Mayweather, Mike Tyson, or Steve Austin over abuse. Hes riding the Chris Brown bandwagon and challenging a 22 year old R&B singer to a fight.

Impossible to say that he hasn't raised such concerns, just not publicly. Let's not forget this whole thing started when Punk was joking with fans. It wasn't a malicious attack on Brown based on anything the man himself hasn't done, it was a joke playing off something that actually happened. Punk challenged Brown to a fight, and here's the bit you want to remember, the bolded bit....AFTER Brown made erroneous claims about the lifestyle of Punk. God knows, Punk could probably have him on slander as it is, he has good grounds to be pissed off when someone's going to try to besmirch his name.

Putting your fist through glass has nothing to do with MMA dipshit. Stunts can go wrong in a wrestling show. This legit fight ended in disaster because just like Punk, Goldberg was full of his own shit and his time the time had come for him to learn his lesson.

It does indicate that he was a bit of an idiot and not befitting of someone you might consider your average MMA practitioner. God knows, his lack of skill in the ring all but already confirmed this.

He was the one who said the little pitty story about his daddy drinking. Boo hoo, so his daddy used to drink while he probably beat his mom, I think someone who beats their wife doesnt need liquor for inspiration.

This is the same guy preaching compassion to people? You really are an ********. He can't help if it's a sob story or not, that was his life, he doesn't use it to get people on his side, he does that with his magnetic personality, wit and intelligence. He uses it as a fuel though, that's what you call turning a negative into a positive, respect to him. Seeing as I've never heard this story I doubt it's one he uses often, and probably not unless asked, it's certainly not something he uses as a sob story though.

Ok listen, hes had 3 years of warranted grief thrown at him and counting.

Fixed.

At first, yeah people should've gave him hell. But theres a line as to how bad you can treat someone before you turn them into a bad person.

I'm guessing his is really thin.

Chris was probably humbled when he was reminded that there are kids who look up to him. He was probably humbled when he saw the pictures of someone hes supposed to love all bloodied and battered.

Not enough to make any significant adjustments to his attitude though. (Source - Him destroying a hotel room when someone asked him something he didn't like). That's called basing an opinion upon something.

Every single waking day of the last three years, 1,095 days and counting have been filled with nothing more than reminding Chris Brown that he beat Rhianna up. Isnt that enough for you. I think if for 1,065 days straight I explained the same point to you it would be more than enough time for you to get it.

But has it been enough time for him, who knows? Italics = exaggeration. He gets' the odd jibe now and again and generally can't accept that he deserves it.

Of course its more favorable than mine, one allows you to ride a high horse and pretend that Chris Brown isnt human and that we're all better than him and the other requires you to use those scary things...you know... compassion, understanding, maturity.

Never did that, prick. I said, as a human the people affected by it ought to be able to forgive, although if they can't that's a completely personal thing, but never forget. That he did what he did should stay with him forever spurring him on to not be that person again. And you're about as compassionate as a gnat judging by what you said about Punk 'sob-story', sorry is an abusive drunk father not important enough to be a blip on your morality radar, you need to fill that hole with defending those poor celebrities like Chris Brown who have suffered so much (for beating up a woman) that they actually had to pick up rubbish! OFF THE FLOOR!! Fuck me, he's had a hard life.

The media gets a kick out of reporting everything that goes wrong in a celebrities life. To mature people who understand this, CB is a man who beat a woman. To people who choose to be ignorant, hes a womanbeater. Theres a huge difference.

Sure, if that's what helps you sleep at night.

The fact is you wouldnt be saying "thank you for hating me and wishing that I die" to all the haters. Its like bullying only you cant transfer schools.

No if I were him I'd accept it or ignore it. But if I were him, it'd never have happened in the first place.

Maybe you should think about a time when people treated you like shit and imagine that same feeling 24/7, then you'd understand.

No, a direct comparison would be lots of people 'bullying' me... because I did something very very wrong.

None of you are approaching Chris and telling him you legit feel he needs some help. You call him names, bash him, and bring up old news as if you're all better than him. Do what you want, just dont get surprised when he gets sick of the bullshit and dishes it right back at everyone else.

If he possessed the ability to just take it on the chin and lay low, I'm sure people would start to forgive. But he's just too stupid and stubborn to let one well deserved jab fly. Until he can learn to roll with the punches, he can keep taking them.

The point is theres no reason for it to haunt him forever. Thats like saying someone who breaks their arm should be forced to wear a cast forever. For a while it might help for preventative measures and remind the person to be careful, but eventually you're going to want to break free from it and do something else with your arm.

No it isn't. On a slightly less well related point, I really really hate it when people say 'oh, it's like...' and they proceed to reel off a situation which is in NO WAY a direct comparison to the point at hand. Breaking your arm is not hurting anybody except yourself, it isn't intentional and so having a cast on forever would not be a good way to remind someone not to do it again.

He ought not to think of it as a burden, he's been exposed early on in life to the way in which society will react to you when you do something nefarious like that, he should use that information to mold his future life and avoid making the same mistakes. Think you are missing the point

The point is he holds himself to such a high degree because he doesnt drink. Ok, we get you, now can you please stop bragging about it.

Was waiting for the speculation to seep in. You know this how? Give me an honest and correct answer to this and I'll actually apologize, and I never apologize, which is why I made this challenge... because it wouldn't end with me apologizing.

No I cant. Its stupid precaution. I know people who have gotten into car accidents, does that mean I should never drive a car? The way Punk acts about drinking its like he believes hes as compulsive as his father. The only reason you go to those lengths to avoid a substance is if you know you cant resist it.

That last sentence makes a whole spectrum of nonsense. No, what it means is that those people should be careful. Punk doesn't preach to people not to drink, smoke or do drugs. He tells people that HE doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs, so your argument goes *poof* out the window.

The day the x's are gone from Punks fists and I never hear the phrase straightedge I'll let him off the hook.

So you would like for him to join everybody else and try not to live a life that'll reduce the chance of him dying at an early age or ruining it prematurely. Sound stuff.

Oh I can most definitely separate kayfabe from real life. Thats why I dont see anything special about a guy who refuses to talk and sign autographs for the people who made him and gets his nose into other people's business.

...and is a fantastic professional wrestler that entertains far more people than he's ever going to turn away in case they take advantage of his name and use it to sell merchandise on the internet and feel they have the right to interject into hi9s personal life like they wouldn't do with most people because of the fact that they recognize him off TV and 'he owes them'. He doesn't owe them squat, he's sacrificed his body and time so that people can sit on the couch and gawk at what he does.

Nope they're all fine and living testaments of how much bullshit Punk's philosophy is.

I only said probably as a tester, obviously they have all been depleted in at least one of those ways. Plus it isn't an instruction or an observation about life, it's a way of life, it can't possibly be bullshit because it's not making any claims.

I dont defend him for beating Rhianna. Domestic violence is wrong. ITS WRONG. BAD. EVIL. VERY VERY NOT GOOD.

Oh good, because I was beginning to wonder...

Its time to let go though. If you dont like Brown, his music, or Rhianna thats fine and dandy. But dont hold a 3 year offense against a guy who the law deemed had paid his debt to society.

I can if I don't deem that he has. Going on at least one actual incident since his 'rehabilitation', and several other alleged ones, I'd argue that his lesson has not been learned and that it still needs to be drummed into him somehow.

The hate you guys spew against him is CLEARLY not helping. In fact, its making things worse. Chris wasnt as erratic as he is now until people started to treat him like shit.

So... are you acknowledging that he's erratic? Erratic how? I'd be interested to hear this.

Maybe if you lead him by example and show him what compassion and forgiveness is, he'll follow your example. But all you show him is hate, so dont be surprised if he embraces the hate (didnt think this would lead to a kane reference.

Actually I rang him before to give him this opportunity. Here's what happened:

Hey Chris, so I know the last week has been pretty tough for you. Well, I wanted to extend the olive branch and show you a bit of love so you could see a different side to people. I know how much slack you;ve gotten so here goes. I forgive you bro.

.............who the fuck gave you my number??

I, erm, Chris? That's not important. I'm trying to-

I'm gonna' find you, I'm gonna' find you can make you pay, who the fuck do you think yo-

Chris. You do realize I'm a guy don't you.

.....................................

He hung up! So, y'know I tried.

 

[H33LTurn]

Last one.



I'm judging him only on things which are fully established as true, things that he himself and others acknowledge that he did. Those things being 1) Attacking a woman. 2) Throwing a fit when somebody asked him about it and trashing a hotel room subsequently. Perhaps the rest of the time he's a saint, gives to charity, gives homeless rides in his private airplane, saves starving children, but based on what is already established it's not very likely is it?

The guys entire life is in the public eye. He performs during various award shows and tours. What I'm getting at is what he did was one stage of his life. Your logic on judging someone based on one incident of their life is ******ed. Its like if I saw you hit your child in the supermarket, I cant automatically assume you beat your child all the time. Maybe thats the first time you hit him, and maybe it was to discipline him. But if thats the only time I saw you it just wouldnt be right to assume. Now I know you're going to bring up other examples of rage and thats fine. If you wanna say hes a shitty human being for trashing a hotel and taking someone's phone go ahead, just dont leave out 90% of the teenage population that steals something and trashes a room at one point of their lives. We're all shitty human beings and we've all wronged people before. We've all thrown temper tantrums. Just because theres not a guy with a microphone and a camera everywhere we go doesnt mean we dont all have our moments. Like I said before, the media cares about negativity. Chris brown taking a stalker's phone is way more interesting than Chris Brown running into a hopeful rap star, shaking his hand, and wishing him well on his career before walking way.

On the other hand, what you are doing with your analysis of Punk is
ENTIRELY speculative. You say he feels superior to Punk, yet you have no evidence, no indication to tell yourself or others that this is the case. The rest you can come up with is anything he's said and done when he was IN CHARACTER as a WRESTLER. Grand Canyon's width of difference.

Oh its not entirely speculative, I assure you. Sure I made some conclusions, but thats just based on the way Punk carries himself. For someone whos had his fair share of public outbursts, making a child cry and my favorite "YOUUU HAVE A VAGINAAAA!!!!" he sure does pretend like hes above Chris Brown and his antics. Neither man is perfect, if we're going to sit here and over-analyze every wrong thing a celebrity or a wrestler does we'll be here for a lifetime. Sure I'm not comparing yelling at a fan to beating a woman, the latter is obviously more detestable, but as it stands no one is gaining anything from bashing anyone here.

Impossible to say that he hasn't raised such concerns, just not publicly. Let's not forget this whole thing started when Punk was joking with fans. It wasn't a malicious attack on Brown based on anything the man himself hasn't done, it was a joke playing off something that actually happened. Punk challenged Brown to a fight, and here's the bit you want to remember, the bolded bit....AFTER Brown made erroneous claims about the lifestyle of Punk. God knows, Punk could probably have him on slander as it is, he has good grounds to be pissed off when someone's going to try to besmirch his name.

Its Punk's timing that was horribly wrong. He didnt bash Brown after the Grammy's he bashed him IMMEDIATELY after Brown tweeted happy birthday to Rhianna and the news broke that the two had made some songs together. Trying to stir up trouble between to people who as it is have a tumultuous relationship is not ok in my book. Punk was meddling into business that just didnt concern him, and therefore Brown's steroids joke was warranted. Brown is a lifelong wrestling fan, of course he knows who Punk is. But the same way Punk went out of his way to get under Brown's skin is the same way Brown dished it back. Face it, Punk started the bullshit, Brown's comments that got Punk's panties in a bunch could've been avoided if Punk had just kept his comments to himself. Oh and dont even start with the whole Punk was joking thing. He tagged Brown in the comment, he was itching for trouble.

It does indicate that he was a bit of an idiot and not befitting of someone you might consider your average MMA practitioner. God knows, his lack of skill in the ring all but already confirmed this.

No, it proves that accidents happen. Someone told him to do that you moron, he didnt just grab the script from the writers and pencil in the part where he almost loses an arm. As for the rest of your argument, we're not talking about ring skills, we're talking about a legit fight. Knowing how to do a supplex is little to no help when someone has their arm around your throat.

This is the same guy preaching compassion to people? You really are an ********. He can't help if it's a sob story or not, that was his life, he doesn't use it to get people on his side, he does that with his magnetic personality, wit and intelligence. He uses it as a fuel though, that's what you call turning a negative into a positive, respect to him. Seeing as I've never heard this story I doubt it's one he uses often, and probably not unless asked, it's certainly not something he uses as a sob story though.

You're completely missing the point. Theres no chemical in alcohol that turns you into a bad husband. Your actions are your own and no one else's. Punk thinks that because his daddy was a drinker and beat his wife that drinking is going to turn him into some sort of monster. Thats fine, he can live his life how he pleases, but its just stupid ideology that makes him look like he cant handle a drink.

Fixed.

Really? Because last time he beat Rhianna, not you or any of the haters out there.

I'm guessing his is really thin.

More reason to leave him the fuck alone.

Not enough to make any significant adjustments to his attitude though. (Source - Him destroying a hotel room when someone asked him something he didn't like). That's called basing an opinion upon something.

Thats just his personality. Some people are more aggressive than others. Not everyone is going to sit there like a dumbass while someone asks him a question he didnt approve of. Before an interview the interviewer asks the guest what question he can/cant ask. This interviewer crossed the line and Brown's reaction was definitely warranted.

But has it been enough time for him, who knows? Italics = exaggeration. He gets' the odd jibe now and again and generally can't accept that he deserves it.

Because he simply doesnt deserve it. People have turned the Rhianna hate which was directed into someone who was considered an abusive partner into a flat out hate campaign completely ignoring the fact that in 3 years he hasnt laid a hand on a woman. And dont give the the who knows shit, hes on probation, there are no second chances for him as far as the law is concerned from here on out. Its like people were just waiting for an excuse to hate on the guy. SCSA beat his wife, that does nothing to me. I dont care that he beat her, I dont care about his personal life, I just dont. I know he's not going to change if I tweet him negative shit so I just dont. No one changes for the better after being hated on. Go do a run down of school shootings and you'll realize nerds who are picked on end up grabbing a gun, not changing their entire personalities.

Never did that, prick. I said, as a human the people affected by it ought to be able to forgive, although if they can't that's a completely personal thing, but never forget. That he did what he did should stay with him forever spurring him on to not be that person again. And you're about as compassionate as a gnat judging by what you said about Punk 'sob-story', sorry is an abusive drunk father not important enough to be a blip on your morality radar, you need to fill that hole with defending those poor celebrities like Chris Brown who have suffered so much (for beating up a woman) that they actually had to pick up rubbish! OFF THE FLOOR!! Fuck me, he's had a hard life.

I know you hate hypothetical situations but its the only way we can relate it to our lives. If we have a friend who wrongs us we can forgive but we'll obviously never forget because if we forget that'll open the floor for them to hurt us again. It doesnt mean we go around cursing their names in public. Its the same with Chris Brown. Religiously I'm obligated to forgive AND forget but I'm completely understanding of anyone who doesnt want to or cant forget the DB/Rhianna incident. But if time has shown us, bashing either person has little to no affect on them. It doesnt mean you should keep trying, It means you should fucking stop. Now. Before Chris develops a REAL anger issue and kills one of you little haters. Let him be, no one in his personal life is complaining about him but all you idiots that only "know" him through a computer screen sure cant shut up about him. How funny is that?

As far as picking up garbage goes, thats what the LAW deemed was a suitable punishment. I'm sure people with LAW DEGREES like a judge and an attorney are more qualified to come up with a suitable punishment than a pro wrestler.

Sure, if that's what helps you sleep at night.

Yeah, it does. I refuse to believe that every celebrity is a douche just because the media says. Likewise, you and I can both testify that wrestlers arent all gay junkies that die young after killing their families and taking steroids just because thats the image the media portrays. Kind of a double edged sword, a wrestling fan defending the media, huh?

No if I were him I'd accept it or ignore it. But if I were him, it'd never have happened in the first place.

Which is what he meant when he said fuck everyone he has a grammy. He also started ignoring Punk, no harm done with the little steroid jab he threw Punks way. Like I said before, Chris is a lifelong wrestling fan, he was just dishing Punk a taste of his own medicine.

No, a direct comparison would be lots of people 'bullying' me... because I did something very very wrong.

...when you were 19. Doubt you would still like it if years later they still acted like it happened yesterday.

If he possessed the ability to just take it on the chin and lay low, I'm sure people would start to forgive. But he's just too stupid and stubborn to let one well deserved jab fly. Until he can learn to roll with the punches, he can keep taking them.

The only well deserved jab is the one handed out by the victim but Rhianna aint even mad tho.

No it isn't. On a slightly less well related point, I really really hate it when people say 'oh, it's like...' and they proceed to reel off a situation which is in NO WAY a direct comparison to the point at hand. Breaking your arm is not hurting anybody except yourself, it isn't intentional and so having a cast on forever would not be a good way to remind someone not to do it again.

He ought not to think of it as a burden, he's been exposed early on in life to the way in which society will react to you when you do something nefarious like that, he should use that information to mold his future life and avoid making the same mistakes. Think you are missing the point

No, I'm pretty sure you're missing the point. He hasnt put his hands on a woman in 3 years. I think the hate should cease at this point, even morose after the fact that he has a gf came out. She seemed really content with Brown and showed no signs of abuse. As far as hating on Chris, its like beating a dead horse and I'll be damned if an animal beater is going to judge a womanbeater.

Was waiting for the speculation to seep in. You know this how? Give me an honest and correct answer to this and I'll actually apologize, and I never apologize, which is why I made this challenge... because it wouldn't end with me apologizing.

Haha, you never apologize? Just another sign of how out of touch you are with humanity and common courtesy. But I bet if someone steps on your toes without apologizing you add them to your Chris Brown list.

That last sentence makes a whole spectrum of nonsense. No, what it means is that those people should be careful. Punk doesn't preach to people not to drink, smoke or do drugs. He tells people that HE doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs, so your argument goes *poof* out the window.

The last sentence is very simple. Diabetics cant eat sugar because it'll kill them. Albinos avoid the sun because it'll burn them. But a tanned and perfectly individual avoiding sugar and the sun because his daddy ended up burning his ass and dying of diabetes, thats a bit extreme. Being careful is one thing, but running away from a substance before knowing how you react to it is just stupid.

So you would like for him to join everybody else and try not to live a life that'll reduce the chance of him dying at an early age or ruining it prematurely. Sound stuff.

No, I dont think that if those X's are gone a beer bottle is going to appear in their place. It'll just make him look less like a a holier than thou deuche.

...and is a fantastic professional wrestler that entertains far more people than he's ever going to turn away in case they take advantage of his name and use it to sell merchandise on the internet and feel they have the right to interject into hi9s personal life like they wouldn't do with most people because of the fact that they recognize him off TV and 'he owes them'. He doesn't owe them squat, he's sacrificed his body and time so that people can sit on the couch and gawk at what he does.

LOL more people than hes ever going to turn away? The guy walked away from the biz at the height of his career because the company that MADE HIM a champion wanted his name for licensing terms. I dont understand how people can support a guy who was so ready to walk away from all his supporters because he wasnt being treated like the face of the company when the last relevant thing he did before his promo was form the New Nexus. As far as not owing anybody anything, let see how he'd like wrestling in front of an empty arena for free. The fans are the reason hes where he is today, not what hes done, but what they've done for him. Punk's promo and career has been a success because the fans cared about him. They're the money and the matter.

I only said probably as a tester, obviously they have all been depleted in at least one of those ways. Plus it isn't an instruction or an observation about life, it's a way of life, it can't possibly be bullshit because it's not making any claims.

Living life itself will make a person deplete. Having a rough day at work can make a man so angry he beats his wife just like Punk's alcoholic daddy beat his mom (probably). It doesnt mean you're going to avoid working.

Oh good, because I was beginning to wonder...

Now you know.

I can if I don't deem that he has. Going on at least one actual incident since his 'rehabilitation', and several other alleged ones, I'd argue that his lesson has not been learned and that it still needs to be drummed into him somehow.

And who the fuck is you? Who bestowed that honor and intelligence on you that allows you to have an unbias view on whats right and wrong? We all have a bias, its just common courtesy not to troll the living hell out of someone life or Twitter account because something doesnt tickle our fancy.

So... are you acknowledging that he's erratic? Erratic how? I'd be interested to hear this.

All the incidents you Brown haters have pointed out. Brown never did stupid shit before 90% of the internet said it doesnt matter what you do from now on, you'll always be a womanbeater.

Actually I rang him before to give him this opportunity. Here's what happened:

Hey Chris, so I know the last week has been pretty tough for you. Well, I wanted to extend the olive branch and show you a bit of love so you could see a different side to people. I know how much slack you;ve gotten so here goes. I forgive you bro.

.............who the fuck gave you my number??

I, erm, Chris? That's not important. I'm trying to-

I'm gonna' find you, I'm gonna' find you can make you pay, who the fuck do you think yo-

Chris. You do realize I'm a guy don't you.

.....................................

He hung up! So, y'know I tried.

Ah thats funny. God forbid you make a mistake and someone reads this, you'll never hear the end of the shit they'll give you, regardless of how much progress you make.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

The guys entire life is in the public eye. He performs during various award shows and tours. What I'm getting at is what he did was one stage of his life. Your logic on judging someone based on one incident of their life is ******ed. Its like if I saw you hit your child in the supermarket, I cant automatically assume you beat your child all the time. Maybe thats the first time you hit him, and maybe it was to discipline him. But if thats the only time I saw you it just wouldnt be right to assume. Now I know you're going to bring up other examples of rage and thats fine. If you wanna say hes a shitty human being for trashing a hotel and taking someone's phone go ahead, just dont leave out 90% of the teenage population that steals something and trashes a room at one point of their lives. We're all shitty human beings and we've all wronged people before. We've all thrown temper tantrums. Just because theres not a guy with a microphone and a camera everywhere we go doesnt mean we dont all have our moments. Like I said before, the media cares about negativity. Chris brown taking a stalker's phone is way more interesting than Chris Brown running into a hopeful rap star, shaking his hand, and wishing him well on his career before walking way.


Oh its not entirely speculative, I assure you. Sure I made some conclusions, but thats just based on the way Punk carries himself. For someone whos had his fair share of public outbursts, making a child cry and my favorite "YOUUU HAVE A VAGINAAAA!!!!" he sure does pretend like hes above Chris Brown and his antics. Neither man is perfect, if we're going to sit here and over-analyze every wrong thing a celebrity or a wrestler does we'll be here for a lifetime. Sure I'm not comparing yelling at a fan to beating a woman, the latter is obviously more detestable, but as it stands no one is gaining anything from bashing anyone here.



Its Punk's timing that was horribly wrong. He didnt bash Brown after the Grammy's he bashed him IMMEDIATELY after Brown tweeted happy birthday to Rhianna and the news broke that the two had made some songs together. Trying to stir up trouble between to people who as it is have a tumultuous relationship is not ok in my book. Punk was meddling into business that just didnt concern him, and therefore Brown's steroids joke was warranted. Brown is a lifelong wrestling fan, of course he knows who Punk is. But the same way Punk went out of his way to get under Brown's skin is the same way Brown dished it back. Face it, Punk started the bullshit, Brown's comments that got Punk's panties in a bunch could've been avoided if Punk had just kept his comments to himself. Oh and dont even start with the whole Punk was joking thing. He tagged Brown in the comment, he was itching for trouble.




No, it proves that accidents happen. Someone told him to do that you moron, he didnt just grab the script from the writers and pencil in the part where he almost loses an arm. As for the rest of your argument, we're not talking about ring skills, we're talking about a legit fight. Knowing how to do a supplex is little to no help when someone has their arm around your throat.




You're completely missing the point. Theres no chemical in alcohol that turns you into a bad husband. Your actions are your own and no one else's. Punk thinks that because his daddy was a drinker and beat his wife that drinking is going to turn him into some sort of monster. Thats fine, he can live his life how he pleases, but its just stupid ideology that makes him look like he cant handle a drink.


Really? Because last time he beat Rhianna, not you or any of the haters out there.



More reason to leave him the fuck alone.



Thats just his personality. Some people are more aggressive than others. Not everyone is going to sit there like a dumbass while someone asks him a question he didnt approve of. Before an interview the interviewer asks the guest what question he can/cant ask. This interviewer crossed the line and Brown's reaction was definitely warranted.



Because he simply doesnt deserve it. People have turned the Rhianna hate which was directed into someone who was considered an abusive partner into a flat out hate campaign completely ignoring the fact that in 3 years he hasnt laid a hand on a woman. And dont give the the who knows shit, hes on probation, there are no second chances for him as far as the law is concerned from here on out. Its like people were just waiting for an excuse to hate on the guy. SCSA beat his wife, that does nothing to me. I dont care that he beat her, I dont care about his personal life, I just dont. I know he's not going to change if I tweet him negative shit so I just dont. No one changes for the better after being hated on. Go do a run down of school shootings and you'll realize nerds who are picked on end up grabbing a gun, not changing their entire personalities.



I know you hate hypothetical situations but its the only way we can relate it to our lives. If we have a friend who wrongs us we can forgive but we'll obviously never forget because if we forget that'll open the floor for them to hurt us again. It doesnt mean we go around cursing their names in public. Its the same with Chris Brown. Religiously I'm obligated to forgive AND forget but I'm completely understanding of anyone who doesnt want to or cant forget the DB/Rhianna incident. But if time has shown us, bashing either person has little to no affect on them. It doesnt mean you should keep trying, It means you should fucking stop. Now. Before Chris develops a REAL anger issue and kills one of you little haters. Let him be, no one in his personal life is complaining about him but all you idiots that only "know" him through a computer screen sure cant shut up about him. How funny is that?

As far as picking up garbage goes, thats what the LAW deemed was a suitable punishment. I'm sure people with LAW DEGREES like a judge and an attorney are more qualified to come up with a suitable punishment than a pro wrestler.



Yeah, it does. I refuse to believe that every celebrity is a douche just because the media says. Likewise, you and I can both testify that wrestlers arent all gay junkies that die young after killing their families and taking steroids just because thats the image the media portrays. Kind of a double edged sword, a wrestling fan defending the media, huh?




Which is what he meant when he said fuck everyone he has a grammy. He also started ignoring Punk, no harm done with the little steroid jab he threw Punks way. Like I said before, Chris is a lifelong wrestling fan, he was just dishing Punk a taste of his own medicine.


...when you were 19. Doubt you would still like it if years later they still acted like it happened yesterday.




The only well deserved jab is the one handed out by the victim but Rhianna aint even mad tho.


No, I'm pretty sure you're missing the point. He hasnt put his hands on a woman in 3 years. I think the hate should cease at this point, even morose after the fact that he has a gf came out. She seemed really content with Brown and showed no signs of abuse. As far as hating on Chris, its like beating a dead horse and I'll be damned if an animal beater is going to judge a womanbeater.



Haha, you never apologize? Just another sign of how out of touch you are with humanity and common courtesy. But I bet if someone steps on your toes without apologizing you add them to your Chris Brown list.

The last sentence is very simple. Diabetics cant eat sugar because it'll kill them. Albinos avoid the sun because it'll burn them. But a tanned and perfectly individual avoiding sugar and the sun because his daddy ended up burning his ass and dying of diabetes, thats a bit extreme. Being careful is one thing, but running away from a substance before knowing how you react to it is just stupid.



No, I dont think that if those X's are gone a beer bottle is going to appear in their place. It'll just make him look less like a a holier than thou deuche.


LOL more people than hes ever going to turn away? The guy walked away from the biz at the height of his career because the company that MADE HIM a champion wanted his name for licensing terms. I dont understand how people can support a guy who was so ready to walk away from all his supporters because he wasnt being treated like the face of the company when the last relevant thing he did before his promo was form the New Nexus. As far as not owing anybody anything, let see how he'd like wrestling in front of an empty arena for free. The fans are the reason hes where he is today, not what hes done, but what they've done for him. Punk's promo and career has been a success because the fans cared about him. They're the money and the matter.


Living life itself will make a person deplete. Having a rough day at work can make a man so angry he beats his wife just like Punk's alcoholic daddy beat his mom (probably). It doesnt mean you're going to avoid working.



Now you know.



And who the fuck is you? Who bestowed that honor and intelligence on you that allows you to have an unbias view on whats right and wrong? We all have a bias, its just common courtesy not to troll the living hell out of someone life or Twitter account because something doesnt tickle our fancy.

All the incidents you Brown haters have pointed out. Brown never did stupid shit before 90% of the internet said it doesnt matter what you do from now on, you'll always be a womanbeater.



Ah thats funny. God forbid you make a mistake and someone reads this, you'll never hear the end of the shit they'll give you, regardless of how much progress you make.

AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...SHUDDUP. You sound like a 10 year old desperately fondling their candy canes after finding out Santa Claus isn't real.

" SCSA beat his wife, that does nothing to me. I dont care that he beat her, I dont care about his personal life, I just dont. " Thank you.

 

[Khalifa]

I know hitting a girl is wrong but I still say if a girl hits you once and you warned them to not hit you again and they do, well they deserve a good night sleep. Okay probably not that far, just a slap.. Maybe..