Chris Jerichos New Move

[Afro-Ameri-Spawn]

Pretty much Jericho's new move lacks any kind of intensity. It's your run of the mill knee to somewhere that everybody in the WWE seems to be doing these days. Noble does the knees to the gut. Carlito does knees to the back. Punk does a a single knee to the head. And now Jericho does a double knee to the face area? It didn't impress me one bit. I was, however, very impressed with Kennedy's new move. I had to rewind the TIVO a few times to rewatch it. I rewinded the Codebreaker once, but only because I fast forwarded through what looked to be a lackluster match. Jericho has much ring rust to work off and needs a newer finisher than what he's gonna be using. If anything, this move with put more wear and tear on his back and may end up giving him back problems later in life.

 

[Rusty]

I personally like the Codebreaker as I think it looks like it would actually hurt. It looks more effective than other finishers eg f.u(even tho im a cena fan), spear and many others. It reminds me of the RKO as it can be used from almost any position which IMO is a huge bonus because a match involving Jericho now means that a match could finish is a matter of 2 seconds. I think he should still use the walls of Jericho as well as the codebreaker since alot a superstars have 2 finishers these days. I think every wrestler shuld have 2 finishers with one of them being a submission move.

 

[BooCocky]

I am not too fond of Jericho's new move, It just reminds me of a frontwards version of the back stabber, but instead of the back, it is too the face. The good thing about the move is it can basically come out of no where, where the Lionsault has too take time to set up and the walls or lion tamer, what ever he wants to call it also takes time to set up, and needs the legs to worked, where when he hits the code breaker it can be really effective because it looks painful. But all in all, the move looks pretty devastating, and it could strike at any time.I think the move is better than the Lionsault though because i believe a moonsault coming from a guy that looks nothing over 200 pounds would be very ineffective and it wouldn't look real whatsoever. A 200 pound guy pinning a 300 pound guy on a moonsault? It seems illogical imo, but atleast a knee to the face could knock anyone out.

 

[wzkevinm]

Y2j is God. why can't everyone just stop being such priks. he is better than you will ever be and what the heck is that move have to to with gregory helms. you guys need to hit the weight room and stop talking smack till you guys can beat jericho

Gregory Helms uses the move - or did, until he got hurt. In fact, he's even won matches with it.

Still, Helms and Jericho are good friends, so I don't think there will be any problems.

 

[bigballa545]

I thiink the codebreaker is pretty weak. He needs to go back to the liontamer and use it how it was in WCW. The knee on the head and bringing their legs all the way back.

 

[wweman1]

i like his new finisher it looks effective and looks good. I rekon he will still use the walls of jericho and the lionsault in his matches but this match was only a squash to put him back in the winners list.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

i like his new finisher it looks effective and looks good. I rekon he will still use the walls of jericho and the lionsault in his matches but this match was only a squash to put him back in the winners list.

Well, it wasn't exactly a "squash" I mean, W.W.E. isn't burying Santino, if anything, Santino raised Jericho back to a main-stream level, by losing to him. And no, I'm not joking. Since his return, Jericho has lacked something (I can't explain) that he had a long time ago. Santino brings out the best in people, through his mic. skills.

As far as his new move, I read somewhere that they wanted Jericho to simply have something new, that way it wasn't the "same ol', same ol.'" I'm more than sure he'd use the Walls of Jericho, but I doubt it'd ever be a finishing move anymore. If a lot of you remember, he wasn't winning hardly any matches with it during his end the last time he was in wrestling.

His former finisher was a running ensiguri. I think the updated "Code-Breaker" is a nice move. As I've said before, its kinda a regularly used normal move to the T.N.A. X-Division stars, but in the W.W.E. its unique & never seen, therefore, it works for Jericho.

On a final note, I'm tired of people saying it looks weak. Okay, compare jacking someone's jaw down across your knees, full force.. to say.. a fireman's carry, into a body slam. I'd say the jaw jacker (Code-Breaker) hurts more.

 

[SeriousProfessional]

Since his return, Jericho has lacked something (I can't explain) that he had a long time ago.

I'll give you a hint. . . It's thick, fun to play with and it's 12 inches long. . . . . I'm talkin about his hair, foo! The Lion Heart lost his mane and now, well, he looks lame.

About the Code Breaker (that's two words right?) . . . I don't have any beef with the move itself, but it doesn't really reek of awesomeness like a finisher should. I, personally, like the submission finisher a.k.a. the Walls of Jericho a.k.a. the Lion Tamer. The Lionsault is kinda weak for a finisher but is a tight trademark since he is the only true star to do it in the US.

Personally, I'd love to see Jericho use the Crossface. He is one of only a few who could use it respectfully.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I'll give you a hint. . . It's thick, fun to play with and it's 12 inches long. . . . . I'm talkin about his hair, foo! The Lion Heart lost his mane and now, well, he looks lame.

Sure you were. And I can agree with his hair being one OF the things missing, as he looks like the W.W.E. version of Eric Young. His size, as he's skinnier now, is another thing.. but thats not it. Somehow, his promos since returning are stale.

Its one of those things where I seen him return, & just thought to myself. I waited 3 monthes, for this?!

About the Code Breaker (that's two words right?) . . . I don't have any beef with the move itself, but it doesn't really reek of awesomeness like a finisher should. I, personally, like the submission finisher a.k.a. the Walls of Jericho a.k.a. the Lion Tamer. The Lionsault is kinda weak for a finisher but is a tight trademark since he is the only true star to do it in the US.

Well, while the move is more or less one in the same.. the Lion Tamer was awesome, the Walls of Jericho sucked. The difference, to me? The Lion Tamer, he sat into.. whereas the Walls of Jericho looked plain & simply like a weak version of a boston crab.

Personally, I'd love to see Jericho use the Crossface. He is one of only a few who could use it respectfully.

In my opinion, anyone should be capable of using it. Its a wrestling hold, just because it has a connection with someone the W.W.E. doesn't acknowledge anymore, doesn't mean it should be banned.

While I don't think everyone would look right, using it. I only say that because a move defines a person. Take for example, you wouldn't see Jericho using a chokeslam to win a match, as something believeable. But I don't think its right to ban a move, or set of moves, simply because they were most associated with one specific wrestler.

 

[wzkevinm]

In my opinion, anyone should be capable of using it. Its a wrestling hold, just because it has a connection with someone the W.W.E. doesn't acknowledge anymore, doesn't mean it should be banned.

While I don't think everyone would look right, using it. I only say that because a move defines a person. Take for example, you wouldn't see Jericho using a chokeslam to win a match, as something believeable. But I don't think its right to ban a move, or set of moves, simply because they were most associated with one specific wrestler.

I don't think that's so with the crossface, unfortunately. That move is irrevocably tied to the career of Chris Benoit. Malenko invented the move, and Benoit was first and most famous person to use it. Add to that the fact that a "modified choke" was used to kill Daniel Benoit. On the outside chance that Benoit killed his son with that move, don't you think it should be banned?

I know, personally, I had a hard time thinking up an explanation for why Michaels used the move at Survivor Series. It seemed to be in really poor taste.

So, essentially, Jericho shouldn't use the crossface. He has a fine submission hold in the Walls of Jericho.

 

[toddhardy]

The codebreaker got no problems with it, But i think Jericho it should be used as a set up into the lionsault would make a heck a combination and of course use the walls. (P.s lose the pose before the codebreaker xD

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I don't think that's so with the crossface, unfortunately. That move is irrevocably tied to the career of Chris Benoit. Malenko invented the move, and Benoit was first and most famous person to use it. Add to that the fact that a "modified choke" was used to kill Daniel Benoit. On the outside chance that Benoit killed his son with that move, don't you think it should be banned?

Just because a modified version may or may not have killed a child, doesn't mean it should be banned. The memory of Benoit doing chops, German Suplexes, Headbutts, & Crossfaces will remain as the big moves he's done.

But W.W.E. isn't going to tell Flair he can't chop again, & German Suplexes aren't going to be banned. The Headbutt apparently has been, as I haven't seen Umaga use it in a while, & likely the Crossface won't be anything more than a random move in a submission set-up type match.

But to answer that question, in my opinion, no, I don't think they should ban a wrestling move just because it could've been slightly involved in a death. (look at children with piledrivers, & chair shots, & other stuff that injure/kill others - none of those things are banned either)

I know, personally, I had a hard time thinking up an explanation for why Michaels used the move at Survivor Series. It seemed to be in really poor taste.

In my opinion, the only thing about it that was in poor taste, was the way he applied it. lol Shawn Michaels took every submission move he did. (Sharpshooter, Anklelock, Crossface) & applied them as crappy as you could. I think it was suppose to be a mock message, that those three former Superstars no longer belong.

So, essentially, Jericho shouldn't use the crossface. He has a fine submission hold in the Walls of Jericho.

I absolutely agree. Chris Jericho doesn't need a crossface, or any other submission. The Walls of Jericho/Lion Tamer (in my opinion, the W.C.W. version was better) is his submission hold.. & likely will continue to be.

A lot of people are simply disagreeing with Jericho changing his finisher to a more or less, jaw breaker. But honestly, you can't tell me her wasn't half assing himself everytime he slapped the Walls on someone, told the end. It looked more like a pathetic boston crab, than an elevated crab.

 

[tap-out]

The code breaker is alright, but really doesn't have that awe factor and because of this i think it will cause jericho and his matches to be so so instead of really excelling. For al the hype of him coming in with a new move, it really is kinda lackluster and not all impressive. Let try and get creative WWE, what do ya say?

 

[MightyFlameboy]

The Codebreaker by itself doesn't have the 'omph' factor, but it does get the job done well. BUT! If he chains Codebreaker, into a Lionsault, into a authentic Liontamer (not the crappy Boston Crab version of Walls of Jericho due to WWE's restrictions), that'll drive the audience crazy!

Jericho did say he still has a few new moves up his sleeve, so I think his first match isn't a good indicator of his current capabilities. He's saving the best for later, so don't be so quick to bash him! Heck, if he does the 3 chain finishers to Orton at Armageddon, that'll drive me nuts.

Oh, his setup pose is cute. ROFL!

 

[the_phenomenal1]

IMHO the Codebreaker is much better than the Walls Of Jericho. Why is that? The Walls Of Jericho was a modified Boston Crab that looked 3 times less painful seeing Jericho wouldn't stretch the legs backwards as far as you would with a typical Boston Crab.

The Code Breaker doesn't sound completely creative but it beats the Walls Of Jericho which was not creative or gave the impression that it was creative compare to a typical move that you would see absolutely anyone would break out of. But like said, Jericho isn't very creative when it comes to a finisher, despite the fact I'm a huge Jericho fan.

A lot of times a wrestler has trademarks of their finisher. Stone Cold is VERY well known for his stunner (even though I always thought the move was cheap/modified neck breaker). Triple H was always known for his Pedigree which was/is creative. The Tombstone was/is a modified piledriver but the move looks to be so effective to the point it fit in perfectly with The Undertaker. Chris Benoit's crippler crossface was a very effective move (trust me, many people in the past put me in the move and without hesitation I tapped out within seconds) but wasn't invented by the man. To make things worse, Hulk Hogan's move is an ordinary leg drop. If you want to see a leg drop 5 times better that looks 7 times more effective but his opponents always kicks out of, try The Undertaker's leg drops.

My point is not every move would be considered as completely "creative" while a small percentage are the complete opposite. No more explanation needed.

I would like to completely agree with this, and also add, one move which is perhaps the tamest of them all yet will always get the biggest pop...The People's Elbow, imagine what it would look like without the build up to it?

As for the Code Breaker, i actually liked it, it is like a proper finishing move which (and this mite sound daft) you can believe would result in a pinfall, because it is in essence kneeing someone in their face then them snapping backwards. (i do know it's not real), whereas the Lionsault, whilst good to watch and would have been ok against Marella for instance wouldn't really cut it on the big stage as it's just a back flip. I can't imagine the World Title at 'Mania being won with something like that, but i could just imagine JR really going mental if Y2J hit the Code Breaker.

 

[Elliott White]

This brings up a very interesting question:

Why is it that everyone switches to the same new move at the same time?

Ken Kennedy does the downward spiral type move on Monday
Benjamin does it on Tuesday
Hassan and Carlito both used it at the same time when they debuted.
Why? Don't they watch their own companies shows? (I guess not).

Y2J's codebreaker is the same as Greg Helms's knee facebuster.
I agree 100% for that reason. Go back to the Walls of Jericho...and the Lionsault.

 

[mabuza]

Come off it guys,most moves are daft,it all about how well their sold by the wrestlers& JR.Explain how the Samoan-Spike can result it some one being knocked unconscious? Cena's F-U's just a stylized fireman's carry,and Edge's spear is kinda lame when compared to Goldberg's,Lashley& Batista,ohh & how can we forget the most devastaing move in sports-entertainment: THE 6-1-9!!!!
The Code-breaker is aight with me...

 

[the_phenomenal1]

Good point mabuza, and Umaga's could well be he worst move ever, poking someone in the neck with your thum is a tad ridiculous, and as i said earlier about the people's elbow. The 619 however is somone getting kicked in the face which done in a different way could look quite harsh, but he has to do his bit with the ropes for the fans. Let the Code Breaker stay!!!!!

 

[nailinthecoffin]

i had to watch this on youtube as i missed the live thing on RAW, and i have to say in comparison to a majority of finishers in WWE today it looks damn well effective, its fast to pull off, it looks like it can be hit form anywhere, and with time, could have several variations developed from it. Personally ide like to see him hit it when someone goes for a top rope move

i can really see it as a wrestlemania winner, mostly because it looks like it could legitimatley do damage

as appose to the aforementioed samoan spike (in theory a thumb to the throat would hurt but not to the extent wwe show) and the 619 (i hate the way its sold)

 

[naridge93]

its called the code breaker

 

[Serious Mozzarella]

its called the code breaker

Oh really? I didn't know that! Thanks for that wonderful information, I'm going to have to go online to a wrestling forum and tell everyone, because I'll be damned if they know! Oh MAN they're going to love the new name?



Anyway, I'm liking this move, but something about it bothered me when he used it on Santino. Yeah, it made a physical impact, but no one really saw it coming. I was expecting something much bigger when he set up his Y2J pose, and when he did it, it really didn't get much of a pop.

 

[Afro-Ameri-Spawn]

Come off it guys,most moves are daft,it all about how well their sold by the wrestlers& JR.Explain how the Samoan-Spike can result it some one being knocked unconscious? Cena's F-U's just a stylized fireman's carry,and Edge's spear is kinda lame when compared to Goldberg's,Lashley& Batista,ohh & how can we forget the most devastaing move in sports-entertainment: THE 6-1-9!!!!
The Code-breaker is aight with me...

The Samoan Spike is a blunt force strike to the side area of the jugular. It's actually a variation of a move used in the martial arts to decapacitate your opponent temporarily. I agree, the 619 IS pretty lame as is Edge's spear. The only reason why I can see Jericho doing the Codebreaker as a move similar to Carlito's is because Carlito's time is up, which will mean that Jericho can do it from the front and back and anywhere inbetween. It still pales in comparison to the Walls of Jericho or even the move that helped him eliminate many of his elimination chamber opponents in the Lionsault.

 

[Rubberband Man]

I think The Codebreaker looks too cruiserweight-ish. Worked pretty well for Helms, but I don't think somebody that is supposed to be challenging for the WWE title can pull it off as effectively.