Bunch Of Injuries

ShinChan

Gone. For. Good.
According to several WZ readers, Charlotte and Becky Lynch had a match at a house show last night in Minneapolis. Halfway through the match Charlotte just started to hold her face and the ref threw up the "X"sign. WWE officials legitimately threw a towel over Charlotte's head and helped her to the back just stopping the match. Becky looked very concerned the whole time and walked to the back as well. There was no winner determined in the match.

In other injury news, Emma suffered a stinger and may have been knocked out for a second after taking a kick to the head from Asuka in the opener of tonight's WWE NXT live event in Cleveland.

There was another injury scare in Cleveland tonight as Tomasso Ciampa appeared to suffer a shoulder injury after taking The Shatter Machine from NXT Tag Team Champions "The Revival" Dash and Dawson.

Sheamus also suffered an injury at tonight's WWE live event as he was legitimately busted open.

I read somewhere that Charlotte has a broken nose after a knee strike by Becky. And Emma suffered a legit knockout by Asuka.

Hoping that all these are minor injuries.

Too many of these injuries nowadays. :shrug:
 
Wow lot's of injuries happening at the worst time of the year. Might be a good idea to start cutting back on the house show circuit. No need to be out there every night. Do they even use the full roster at these house shows anymore?

And what's this with Sheamus? He was busted open about a month ago and needed staples. If anyone is injury prone it's him. Hope they all recover quickly.
 
Asuka needs to go.. She absolutely sucks... Some say she's the best woman in WWE, where's the fucking skills from this woman?.. Emma is not the first person she injured, she can't talk and her awkward mannerism's don't help much either.
 
Asuka still very stiff in her moves. I don't know how that haven't toned her down more. I like her style. She's the future once bayley leaves
 
Asuka needed to leave her super stiff stuff in Japan. Wrestlers used to the American style aren't ready for it. But I guess adapting her style is why she's in NXT. Seems she needs further work.
 
Better up the amount of houseshows even further so these athletes get hardier.

No Really, it's getting really annoying having TV storylines ruined constantly when half the roster is getting hurt in front of 150 people at a house show, because they still insist on making talent wreste 150+ Dates
 
Most of the injuries aren't due to overworking. I support less house shows for them but they aren't causing the recent injury bug. Charlotte got hit in the face. Rollins landed wrong. Emma got kicked too hard. Ciampa, Sting and Kidd got unlucky. Sheamus took a knee to the head. Nikki Bella was only a matter of time due to her finish. Bryan didn't get concussions due to the schedule.

I have no idea how Cena, Cesaro and Orton got injured. They may have been injured due to the schedule but I have no idea.
 
The injury bug is a tricky one, because there really isn't one thing that caused it. Sure bad luck is a part of it. It's wrestling, there always have been injuries and there always will be. It's like what many people say when they start wrestling, its not IF you get injured, it's WHEN. Because it's going to happen.

But let's take a closer look at some other factors when considering why it's such a large problem now.

You have the house show schedule. They are working more days now then they should. Almost everyone knows and accepts that. The more they wrestle, the more they are likely to get hurt. But is it more then just bad luck and a tough schedule?

We also have the change in Styles to a more "Indy" style due to fan interest swaying that direction. Back in the attitude era you had thumbtacks, tables, fire, ladders, and chair shots to the head, etc. But one thing you didn't have is fast paced 20 minute matches filled with bumps from the top of the card to the bottom. Remember when 2-5 minute matches were common? And other then a spot or two and a finisher the match was mainly punches/kicks. There was alot of brawling....and that takes less toll on your body then flipping onto your back 10 times a minute for 20 minutes every night. The demand for faster more technical and longer matches has made the physical demand on the wrestlers larger, thus causing more injuries.

Then there's Chris Beno......oh wait I can't say that name. Well after some toothless Canadian went crazy, the WWE got serious about their "wellness policy" since then the WWE has gotten very strict with medications. Sometimes not as strict as they should be, but better then they were before at least. With the wellnessnpolicy in place, you can physically see the difference it is making by looking at the bodies of the wrestlers. Gone are the days of the jacked up meatheads. Steroids = no job. Sure some people still possibly get away with it, but back in the day EVERYONE was juicing or taking pain pills etc. So now the wrestlers have a hard schedule and a rough style, and they can't take pain killers to help, so if the pain gets too bad.....uh oh that guy is now injured. No Stereroids to help heal injuries either. As that is what Stereroids do. So back in the day someone may get a minor tear in a muscle, but be able to work through the pain due to painkillers and be able to heal up quickly due to roids. That guy could go on wrestling full time. But these days that injury may require surgery and a 4 month recovery because they don't have the drugs to get them through it.

I'm not saying the wellness policy is bad either. If it saves only one wrestlers life, then it was all worth it. But it is definitely a factor in the injury bug that's been plaguing The WWE.

In other words, you can lower the schedule for house shows, and that may help some....but that's only a small part of the much bigger picture.
 
I don't know what the deal is with live house shows but that's seems to be where the bulk of the injuries are coming from. The latest batch all came from live house shows. At least they don't seem to be - bad- injuries like Seth Rollins has. The WWE Champion doesn't need to be fighting Kane at a house show, just sayin. Save that for guys like The Miz or R-Truth...not Seth Rollins.
 
You have the house show schedule. They are working more days now then they should. Almost everyone knows and accepts that. The more they wrestle, the more they are likely to get hurt. But is it more then just bad luck and a tough schedule?

We also have the change in Styles to a more "Indy" style due to fan interest swaying that direction. Back in the attitude era you had thumbtacks, tables, fire, ladders, and chair shots to the head, etc. But one thing you didn't have is fast paced 20 minute matches filled with bumps from the top of the card to the bottom. Remember when 2-5 minute matches were common? And other then a spot or two and a finisher the match was mainly punches/kicks. There was alot of brawling....and that takes less toll on your body then flipping onto your back 10 times a minute for 20 minutes every night. The demand for faster more technical and longer matches has made the physical demand on the wrestlers larger, thus causing more injuries.

While I agree with your first statement about the amount of shows they have to do and the tough schedule, I kind of disagree with the next paragraph.

They don't do an indy style at all it's total WWE. If you read the live show circuit and you usually have two tours happening at the same time. Take a Reigns tour for example, read the first set of results, and every show after that will mirror it. It's like some sort of choreographed dance routine, only at certain times someone gets their toe trod on. Also look at the age group that attends house show and you see it's mostly kids with their parents. They don't want to see thumbtacks, fire and shots to the head, they are happy just seeing their favourites in the ring.

I don't think the match are more technical or longer, but I do think that they perform the moves too often and don't get a chance to totally rest before going out and doing it again. The WWE should cut back on the house show circuit and give their guys time to rest and let any lingering problems heal. People are working injured and when they do go down, they are out for longer stretches, like what happened with Cesaro. He was working with a dodgey rotator cuff and finally had to have surgery on it. Now he's out for up to 5 months.

it's time to go back to the drawing board and map something out that benefits both the wrestlers and the fans.
 
Too much of works, too much of travelling and restless nights are the reason for major of these injuries. Back in ages, WWE didn't produce so much shows as like now. Things have changed and even when the stars are split into two halves to perform at the house shows, it still is putting the entire roster under a heavy workload which makes it unbearable. If WWE reconsider the work pressure, the injuries might reduce considerably.
 
While I agree with your first statement about the amount of shows they have to do and the tough schedule, I kind of disagree with the next paragraph.

They don't do an indy style at all it's total WWE. If you read the live show circuit and you usually have two tours happening at the same time. Take a Reigns tour for example, read the first set of results, and every show after that will mirror it. It's like some sort of choreographed dance routine, only at certain times someone gets their toe trod on. Also look at the age group that attends house show and you see it's mostly kids with their parents. They don't want to see thumbtacks, fire and shots to the head, they are happy just seeing their favourites in the ring.

I don't think the match are more technical or longer, but I do think that they perform the moves too often and don't get a chance to totally rest before going out and doing it again. The WWE should cut back on the house show circuit and give their guys time to rest and let any lingering problems heal. People are working injured and when they do go down, they are out for longer stretches, like what happened with Cesaro. He was working with a dodgey rotator cuff and finally had to have surgery on it. Now he's out for up to 5 months.

it's time to go back to the drawing board and map something out that benefits both the wrestlers and the fans.

It seems you're totaly missing my point, or are not seeing it. How can you say the matches aren't longer or more technical!? Go back and watch an episode.if Monday night Raw from the Attitude Era. Go ahead and do it, I do all the time, they're on the WWE network for only $9.99 :-D

What do you see!? Raw is War is 2 hours long, making ahorter.matches necessary. Alot of talking.....promos.....ads,....random brawls backstage and in the ring. Matches are typically 2-5 mins other then main events. Let's look at a typical sequence from an attitude era match:

Punches are exchanged till one person gets the advantage. That guy punches a few more times and then irsh whips his opponent who reverses the Irish whip. The opponent bends down for a back body drop but gets a kick to the head. The opponent rolls outside the ring but is followed. Clothesline to the back of the head. He picks his opponent up and slams his head into the stairs. He then whips him into the barricade before getting in his opponents face and taunting him.

Now let's look at a modern Raw.


What do you see? Raw is now 3 hours long which allows for longer matches.Shows will have multiple 20+ min matches and the rest of the matches are closer to the 10 min mark instead of the 5 min mark. There's still alot if talking but not as much as before, There's less backstage segments too. More of the story is.told in the ring. All of these changes are to free up more time for the longer.matches that fans crave. Something that didn't come from The WWE, but something people started to appreciate from the Indy's.

And that's where the "Indy style" comes into play. Doing the same.match over and over doesn't mean it's not an indie style they are doing over and over.

So we saw that sniper if what an attitude era match would have. Now.let's look at today's matches. A sequence could look like this:

He hits a running forearm on his opponent and pushes him back to the ropes. Irish whip into a Japanese arm drag, both get right back up, he.dropkicks the.opponent and picks him back up. His.opponent hits a quick knee to the gut followed by an Irish whip eh CH is reversed into a hurricanranna. The opponent rolls.to the outside but then gets hit with a suicide dive to the outside. He picks the opponent up and whips him into the steel stairs. He picks his opponent back up, the opponent swings but.misses. he grabs his opponent from behind and hits a belly to back suplex, back first into the barricade. He stands over his opponent and taunts.

I tried to keep it similar to the other one but with a more.modern style so you can see how it differs. Taking back bumps constantly and at faster paces/higher impacts takes alot more out if a body then taking worked punches/kicks for the majority of the match.

The faster more technical style along with longer matches are some very big reasons why there are so many injuries. You combine that with the tougher schedule and lack of performance enhancing/pain killing drugs, and you have a recipe for disaster.

And on your point with Cesaro....20 years ago he wouldn't have needed surgery. That's the point I was making about that. The pain killers would have covered the pain and the roids would ha e healed the injury. He wouldn't have missed any time. I'm not saying people should take.those things, just pointing out why injuries are more common Nowdays
 
The injuries are more coincidence than anything. There haven't been any major changes to the WWE schedule or the WWE style. If there were, we'd clearly be looking in that direction.

Some of the injured talent are some of the best and safest in the whole world. Cena, Cesaro, and Rollins are all not dangerous wrestlers, nor have there been accusations of danger. Rollins maybe, but even Sting didn't blame him.

Asuka is in NXT because she came from Japan where they are expected to work extremely stiff. Emma was back in the ring the next night from my understanding, and this is a super concussion paranoid era.

Another thing to keep in mind is the information age. We hear a lot more about injuries to developmental talent now than we ever hear before.

There's no smoking gun here. There's a pattern that just seems to form around nothing. Wrestlers just need to remember to protect themselves and others.
 
Everyone's bashing Asuka, but what about Becky Lynch? I don't get the appeal of Becky. She's vastly overrated. This is not the first wrestler she's hurt either, she gave Alicia Foxx a concussion last year also. Funny how no one mentioned that eh? Becky doesn't deserve to be in the three way at WrestleMania. She's not going to win, she's just there to take the fall for Sasha Banks anyway.
 

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