wow as soon as i read the report i started cracking up thank u kong for beating the sh*t out of that fat fuck u see that y dj"s done belong in wrestling cause they always care about there self and always insults another person or country kong your the shit and she doesnt need no anger managment hell no not @ all.....1 down 2 more to go eric and hogan little by little there going to start going down and out of TNA for life
Bubba replaces JB & Other Bubba Discussion
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Agreed. Convincing the creatives to book a proper squash of bubba by the entire roster on TV would have been way better for the business.
Be a little bit tolerant here D-Man, you cant even control yourself with that kind of act. What she did was professionaly wrong, but that wasn't a bad human judgement, just a bad professional judgement.
When someone upset you at work, you tend to make it pay back in the professional way. When wrestling is your job, well...
The thing that I do not understand is why Bubba still on TNA? I mean, it's the second or third problem he got in only 2 weeks!
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I can't believe any of you are actually condoning this. I don't care what he said. He could have started walking around in a KKK outfit screaming "WHITE POWER!" back-stage. That doesn't give anyone the right to physically assault him like that. Let Bubba get himself fired over his own stupidity – there is absolutely no justifiable reason to attack the man over it.
Kong fucked up, and she fucked up bad. If she loses her job over this, it's on no one but herself.
Kong fucked up, and she fucked up bad. If she loses her job over this, it's on no one but herself.
UseYourBrain
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That is absolute nonsense. Violently attacking a man for his harsh words is not "standing up". It's being a total bully. It's being weak. Handling something like that with physical violence is not the sign of a hero. It's pathetic. I disagree STRONGLY with Bubba's words, but walking up and sucker punching him for them is really, really unprofessional. She deserves to lose her job. She'll probably get a bunch of fake glory in the locker room, with people whispering to her that she did the right thing, but they won't lose their jobs defending her, that's for sure. Why? Because she just PUNCHED somebody for making social commentary that she didn't like. So much for free speech.
You had me interested right up until this point.
Backstage at a wrestling event IS the office. This is where the meetings occur, television is planned, and wrestlers dwell in between their on-screen segments.
Also, encouraging that she can slip in a physical attack on an innocent human being because she has "pull" is the most ignorant statement I've ever heard. And yes, he is innocent because he did not physically provoke her... not because of words that were spoken.
You all need to realize the severity of what you're saying. Verbal attacks DO NOT = physical attacks. No matter what world, business, or society you come from.
Kong should definitely be punished for this. Expect her tag title to waive "bye, bye" at the next Impact taping.
As someone mentioned before me, this is all highly suspect to begin with as the only info we have on it came from Bubba himself, who's never exactly struck me as a reliable source of information. Everyone is jumping Kong's shit for something that, quite honestly, may not even have happened, and even if it did, almost certainly didn't happen the way Bubba the Spongebob says it did.
I appeal to reason!
I appeal to reason!
Actually, this would have been a much more mature and justifiable means to get her emssage across besides physicl violence. It just proves to us that she's incapable of acting professional.
Maybe she should've kicked his ass either outside the workplace or not at all. Or maybe this could've been written into the script. A storyline would've been more of Russo's style.
Does she have the right to be angry? Absolutely. Does she have the right to physically attack a man half her size without any physical provokation? FUCK NO. And none of your reasoning will ever prove the latter.
Welcome to the world of professionalism and maturity. When we lose our cool, due to verbal assaults, we are clearly showing signs of immaturity. Ever hear the saying, "Sticks and stones... etc"? She should follow that rule. There is absolutely no justifiable reasoning that permits a physical attack on a weaker, smaller human being because they said something stupid.
Should Taylor Swift have punched Kanye West? Should Donald Trump have punched Rosie O'Donnell? What makes these incidents any different than the one we're speaking about?
Oh, that's right... because it involves the deaths of people. So let's justify someone's mocking of unprovoked violence with some more unprovoked violence. Yeah, that makes sense.
Really? I listed four examples of backstage fights where one performer slugged another- in Schultz's case, not even a performer but a reporter- and all four got away with it. And those were just the first four I thought of. Let's not forget JBL vs. Blue Meanie. What happened to JBL? He jobbed for one night to meanie, then got a title run. Invader #1 vs. Bruiser Brody? Invader #1 got acquitted at trial and then punched by Tony Atlas. Haku (again) vs. Brutus Beefcake? People let Haku choke Beefcake until Hogan came in to break it up.
Kong's going to get punished, but not because she hit someone backstage. She's going to get punished because she hit the boss's buddy. If she had slugged, say, Cody Deaner? She might have to job in a non-title match to Lacey von Erich.
We'd all like to live in a world where verbal attacks don't bring physical attacks, but that's not even true in the real world, nevermind the quasi-reality of backstage professional wrestling. It happens all the time; I'm up to seven examples without doing any research where one wrestler has assaulted (in one case murdered) another, with little to no consequence. It's not nice, but it doesn't matter if it's right or not. It's real.
TNA2009Forward
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Are you kidding me? Kong did exactly what I would have done, even if I was being unprofessional for the one time at my workplace to beat the living shit out of the lowest of scums, a degenerate reputation of TNA, that ****** called Bubba the Love Sponge. Maybe I would have waited though to beat him up somewhere else though to retain job. And of course Hogan would look to fire anyone over his buddy brother, it's Hogan. I somehow feel this is a work: Eric B: Controversy Creates Cash. Anyway, go Kong Warrior Princess. That'll teach him not to make them Haiti comments, as a matter of fact I've heard him apologize. Kong rules.
Ok, then let's look at it this way.
I'm a mod on Wrestlezone and you're a "new kid on the block." Remind me to punch you in the face next time I see you because I personally feel your comments on here are injust. Is that fair?
I'll tell you right now... one of my best friends is one of the guys that run this site. I report to him, as on Wrestlezone, he is my boss. He would DE-mod me quicker than you can say "Haiti" if I ever physically attacked you without provokation.
You can give me all of the stories from the past that you want. NONE of them are justified. It isn't right that people could just attack other people and not be punished. Sure, they got away with it. But we will always view men like JBL as being a total bully and an ass hole. There's the difference.
I'm not going to say whether Kong was "right" or "wrong" for kicking his ass. i don't like him, but I agreed with his comments on Haiti, but I still wouldn't mind seeing him beaten around the ring.
I'm just going to say that I'll believe it when Kong stops getting pushed, drops the titles, and disappears for a few weeks. She's widely known as the nicest person backstage, helping the other Knockouts with their wardrobes and make-up, and helping the guys map out their matches. For her to snap like that is a bit of a stretch.
I'm just going to say that I'll believe it when Kong stops getting pushed, drops the titles, and disappears for a few weeks. She's widely known as the nicest person backstage, helping the other Knockouts with their wardrobes and make-up, and helping the guys map out their matches. For her to snap like that is a bit of a stretch.
My apples are not your oranges. JBL's a bully and an asshole, but it doesn't really matter if hitting Meanie was right, justified, or whatever. That's the point I'm trying to get across. There were no consequences. In professional wrestling, along with more professions than you'd expect, it's not about what's "right", it's about what makes money. If you were to come to my house and punch me in my face, on the one, I am no Bubba, I do not put my hands in front of my face and save my rage for my talk show. On the two, you state how you couldn't get away with it, so you wouldn't; which is exactly my point. "Right" is only meaningful if there are consequences to back it up, said by far wiser men than me.
Little Jerry Lawler
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Most posters here seem to be missing the point. I don't care if she punched Bubba or some caterer, she acted unprofessional in a professional environment. If she wants to go on his radio show and say what she feels then that would be acceptable. However, she attacked him when Bubba didn't provoke her and she deserves to be punished. I guarantee that if Bubba fought back then he would be punished too but he didn't. Kong acted in a way that she shouldn't have and I don't care whether you think she was justified. She deserves to be punished and I believe she will be.
Schizophrenic
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Whether she should have or shouldn't have, it's still pretty funny to envision in your head. Bubba is simply a Howard Stern wannabe who folds to peer pressure of any kind. He makes these comments then a day later takes them back saying that he was in the wrong? The guy is a horrible dj and an even worse interviewer and en even more wretched human being. I want Lauren or Leticia back.
First Bubba says F**k Hati on live radio and people has threaten not to watch tna and now he gets in a fight with Awesome kong over his comments towards Hati and he still has not apologize for what he said and has alot of backstage heat plus let's not forget he bad mouth Dixie Carter b4 Hogan I know he's your boy but you gotta do whats right for the company and not back him no more for his stupidity plus he sucks way worse then JB
Ambiguous Turd
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Some general thoughts on this:
It's a shame IF Kong gets depushed because of this incident. Reports were that Hogan was thrilled with Awesome Kong and thought she had tremendous potential when he first got there. But now that Kong did this, he now isn't happy with her. So we'll have to see what this means for her.
It was wrong for her to attack Bubba over it. You can't just go up to someone and start punching them backstage because they make off-color comments over something you feel strong about. I do think Bubba was an ass to make those comments, however that doesn't give Kong the green light to go up to him and start assaulting him over it.
What does she want to do? Kill her career in the United States? I guess she can always go back to Japan.
But reportedly, Bubba is the one with the heat on him in the TNA Lockerroom, not Kong.
Kong should have been the one sent home, but to be frank, after Bubba made those comments, I would have probably distanced myself from him if I were Dixie, and took him off TV. I'm not sure what the scope of his listening audience is, but if substantial then he could be a great asset in promoting TNA.
So he brings a lot of reward to the table, but also brings risk as well. And he is someone you really have to walk the line with and determine whether the reward in publicity and promotion for the company he brings to his listening audience is worth the risk of his controversial comments.
But he did apologize for his Haiti comments, so that is a good sign that he is willing to bend in some cases. Bubba is a mark for Hogan and the wrestling business in general, so I suppose that doesn't surprise me that he eventually bent and gave an apology, just so he can stay in the business.
But Hogan needs to be very careful in how he treads in here, because favoritism of Bubba just because he may be friends with the guy, can come with dire consequences for Hogan, and result in a very upset lockerroom.
It's a shame IF Kong gets depushed because of this incident. Reports were that Hogan was thrilled with Awesome Kong and thought she had tremendous potential when he first got there. But now that Kong did this, he now isn't happy with her. So we'll have to see what this means for her.
It was wrong for her to attack Bubba over it. You can't just go up to someone and start punching them backstage because they make off-color comments over something you feel strong about. I do think Bubba was an ass to make those comments, however that doesn't give Kong the green light to go up to him and start assaulting him over it.
What does she want to do? Kill her career in the United States? I guess she can always go back to Japan.
But reportedly, Bubba is the one with the heat on him in the TNA Lockerroom, not Kong.
Kong should have been the one sent home, but to be frank, after Bubba made those comments, I would have probably distanced myself from him if I were Dixie, and took him off TV. I'm not sure what the scope of his listening audience is, but if substantial then he could be a great asset in promoting TNA.
So he brings a lot of reward to the table, but also brings risk as well. And he is someone you really have to walk the line with and determine whether the reward in publicity and promotion for the company he brings to his listening audience is worth the risk of his controversial comments.
But he did apologize for his Haiti comments, so that is a good sign that he is willing to bend in some cases. Bubba is a mark for Hogan and the wrestling business in general, so I suppose that doesn't surprise me that he eventually bent and gave an apology, just so he can stay in the business.
But Hogan needs to be very careful in how he treads in here, because favoritism of Bubba just because he may be friends with the guy, can come with dire consequences for Hogan, and result in a very upset lockerroom.
An apology means nothing if it isn't sincere, and Bubba's apology might as well have been postfaced with a "P.S. MY SPONSORS ARE MAKING ME SAY THIS." You don't tell people how you're only going to do it once, about how apologizing makes you a bigger man; you do it, you say "I was wrong", and you don't make any excuses over it.
Try that apology with anyone you know. "Look- and I'm only going to tell you this once- I might have gone too far with what I did. Maybe. So, me, I'm going to be the bigger man now that thousands of people are screaming at me. It's too bad that you couldn't handle being wrong, but it's only because of the job I work in. Me, me, me."
I'd punch you in the face.
T2KFreeker
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Just to be clear, I am not the biggest Jeremy Borash fan in the world, but I have to say that he does his job well. He has enthusiasm and really tries to get the point across without being a camera ****e. No controversy and no having wrestlers wanting to knock his teeth out. Bubba The Love Sponge may be a big radio DJ and the Florida "King Of Radio", whatever. Howard Stern is huge in radio and I wouldn't want to see him on TNA. Sadly, we may just see him as a guest host on RAW one day, oh boy!
Anyway, what I am getting at here. All that Bubba has done is complain about how TNA did this to him and TNA did that to him and they lied to him and the fans and this and that. Good God man, the guy is a total jerk. Yes, one man can make all the difference in the world when it comes to your product and it can sting. Bubba comes out in the interviews like he's the reason we are watching, just watch his body language and the way he positions himself in the interviews. The guy is an assclown. He has to go and Borash, who knows what the Hell he is doing, needs to be given his position back. I know that "Controversy Creates Cash" and all that, but an angry lockerroom and pissed off television audience and fans is not going to help anything. The Carters keep seeing crap like this and "Controversy Creates Wallet Closings".
Anyway, what I am getting at here. All that Bubba has done is complain about how TNA did this to him and TNA did that to him and they lied to him and the fans and this and that. Good God man, the guy is a total jerk. Yes, one man can make all the difference in the world when it comes to your product and it can sting. Bubba comes out in the interviews like he's the reason we are watching, just watch his body language and the way he positions himself in the interviews. The guy is an assclown. He has to go and Borash, who knows what the Hell he is doing, needs to be given his position back. I know that "Controversy Creates Cash" and all that, but an angry lockerroom and pissed off television audience and fans is not going to help anything. The Carters keep seeing crap like this and "Controversy Creates Wallet Closings".
Derek Bastard
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I don't know how much Bubba will be talking backstage after Kong knocked his fucking head off! Ahahahahahahahahahah... ANyone else think that was amazing! Put that footage on Impact and they'll get atleast a 2.0!
Afro-Ameri-Spawn
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Wow. Blind enthusiasm. Well I will say one thing kid, ya got moxy, but that's about it. And lord knows your perception of the truth is skewed beyond a reasonable breaking point. So let me just simply tell you this, and hopefully it help in your quest for knowledge and enlightenment.
Bubba The Love Sponge is NOT going to be sheltered by Hulk Hogan. Hogan is smart and has made a career out of picking and choosing his battles wisely. And trust me, while Hogan is on Bubba's show damned near daily, he knows not to stick his neck and reputation out on the chopping block for a dime a dozen shock jock from the radio.
And contrary to popular belief, Hogan is NOT the boss. He was hired to partner with TNA to direct and promote it. Dixie Carter still has the stroke, as demonstrated by the fact that she had rejected several of Hogan's proposals for new roster additions. (sorry Beefcake and Virgil). And Bubba's antcs are starting to wear thin on the company. I mean sure, you can say whatever the hell you want on your own show, but you need to be prepared to accept the consequences from your other job for making them look bad. That can be seem by the fact that he went off for his close buddies being turned away at the live Impact two weeks ago. I mean dude, it's free admission, so it's first fucking come first serve you moron. Duh! And if nothing else, the fact that the usually very professional Awesome Kong was so upset that she whooped his ass should be enough proof that Bubba has finally put his foot in his fat mouth.
And he's an awful interviewer. No timing. No charisma. He can't do scripted interviews on TNA. Period.
So don't be surprised if Bubba's time in TNA ends up being a short one. Just like Hall, Waltman, and many other unpredictable Hogan talent additions, Bubba was on thin ice coming in the door. And right now, he has one leg deep in the freezing cold water and not a branch reaching out to save his ass. And I say, good riddance.
I don't know if that was meant as a joke or what, but It is actually a terrific Idea.
Why not have a Kong vs Bubba Fued, I personally would pay to see that lol!
turn a bad situation into a good situation, the WWE tried it with the whole Edge/Lita/Matt Hardy Situation
nwogiant33
Occasional Pre-Show
I have some food for thought on the "mess" that has become Bubba the Love Sponge in TNA Wrestling: it's all a work. I think it might even go all the way back to July 2000 at WCW Bash at the Beach. There have been plenty of things that came out years later that have suggested the whole Russo/Hogan/Jarrett thing was a work that went wrong, and I think they're trying the angle again. Why else would Hogan go on the BTLS this morning and joke about the Kong/Bubba incident? Why else would Bubba play up the fact that Jarrett is "lawyering up" against Dixie Carter? Why would they let Bubba get away with saying "Fuck Haiti" and not fire him? Why would they "fire" Borash? Didn't Eric Bischoff write a book titled "Controversy Creates Cash? To many things lead me to believe it's all a work, if someone else can prove me otherwise, I'm welcome to hear it.
When I search for knowledge and enlightenment, I do it with people who have reading comprehension. In order- I do not care if a random message board tough boy thinks I have 'moxie'. I never expressed support for Bubba's tenure in TNA (in fact, I expect it will be gone before the next set of tapings.) And I'd like to know exactly how my reality is skewed when it notices that decisions are based upon money, and Kong hasn't been pushed (or a draw, even) since she complained publicly about how much she was being paid, and listed a series of backstage fights which were decided based upon stroke and money instead of what was right or justified.
So take your big britches to another thread. I'm not making the Kong vs. Bubba argument that you are so desperate to get into.
BTW, were you a Miz mark before or after he started taking scripted shots at Cena?
Was Kong wrong? Absolutely. One shouldn't go about hitting people in the workplace.
But...
Which situation is more of an issue for TNA the company? One of their newest hires publicly making *extremely* controversial and incredibly insensitive statements about a tragedy that has devasted a country and has killed hundreds of thousands?
Or Kong standing up to the loudmouth that made these statements and had refused to apologize?
The fact that Bubba then gave an apology which was tantamount to patting himself on the back for being such an awesome person as to apologize, doesn't make him look any better. Add in the fact that he implied that he could have "taken down" Kong to create a tough guy image is just kind of sad.
Which situation is worse for TNA?
Kong should most definitely be reprimanded. No doubt about it.
Bubba should be shown the door.
But...
Which situation is more of an issue for TNA the company? One of their newest hires publicly making *extremely* controversial and incredibly insensitive statements about a tragedy that has devasted a country and has killed hundreds of thousands?
Or Kong standing up to the loudmouth that made these statements and had refused to apologize?
The fact that Bubba then gave an apology which was tantamount to patting himself on the back for being such an awesome person as to apologize, doesn't make him look any better. Add in the fact that he implied that he could have "taken down" Kong to create a tough guy image is just kind of sad.
Which situation is worse for TNA?
Kong should most definitely be reprimanded. No doubt about it.
Bubba should be shown the door.
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