I attended Bragging Rights tonight and this match was way better than anybody in their wildest dreams would have expected. The crowd was into it the whole time, Cena and Orton hit some sick spots, lots of excitement, and the hour went by so friggin fast. It was one of the best matches I've ever seen. Definitely the best match I've ever seen in person. It sounds dumb, but I'm not going to talk about who won in case somebody orders the replay and watches it or something (I guess people actually do pay for the replay). I thought there would be 15 minutes of chin locks and all that crap... not one bit. Cena and Orton had the classic match that Triple H could only effing dream of having with Orton. It really was amazing.
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Well, I enjoyed the match for 59 minutes, but the finish was just plain dumb. Orton only had about five more seconds to hold out in the STF to take it into OT, and yet he tapped anyway. Earlier in the match they tried to make out he was smart by tapping out straight away when locked in the same move, so for him to ignore how little time was left on the clock just lacked consistency.
Sure, I get that they need to try and have it that the STF is actually a painful move, and that it's difficult to hold out for so long, but Orton would have gained a lot more credibility by holding out those extra few seconds, even if they still had Cena win in OT. OT might even have added to the 'epicness' of the match.
Sure, I get that they need to try and have it that the STF is actually a painful move, and that it's difficult to hold out for so long, but Orton would have gained a lot more credibility by holding out those extra few seconds, even if they still had Cena win in OT. OT might even have added to the 'epicness' of the match.
near_expert22
Dark Match Winner
didnt see the match but it sounded like it was very exciting.my only issue is the wrong person won.i dont like cena but im not a cena hater either.he's okay,if you like stale gimmicks.but w/e.my thing is having cena lose would have been the smarter business move on wwe's part.he could have gone to smackdown and taken on batista (now a heel) and really gave smackdown a bigger lift.not only that,it would allow the glass floor beneath the m.e. scene to be shattered giving the young guys the opportunity to prove themselves against the bigger guys,instead of fighting each other and getting nowhere. wwe could have really capitalized on this move by having randy come out and do a good promo on ending the cena era on raw,then have ted say that he deserves a shot to prove himself,leading to the dibiase/orton feud some have been clammering for for the past few weeks,especially after the foreshadowing wwe did on raw last week.it could be named "ted's revenge". thansk wwe for being uncreative enough to see that cena is not helping raw he is hurting it,specially with the special guest thing.but thats a different story for another thread.thoughts?
school-of-hard-knocks
Occasional Pre-Show
I watched the PPV last night in a sports bar (as I usually do, costs $40 anyways but you get drunk for it) and I can say it was one of the most enjoying matches I have ever seen. There were about 100 people watching the PPV and everyone went absolutely nuts for the Orton/Cena match. I was actually surprised a bit. It was about 80% male crowd watching and there were only 3 people out of the whole crowd rooting for Orton.
But anyway it was a really fun match to watch. In my opinion it was better than HBK Vs Undertaker at WM. But that's just me. They had some really cool spots worked into the match. Both men sold the match great and the finish even though a little bit predictable was very fitting. Why not let Orton last 5 more seconds? Simple, he's been hit with everything possible for 59 minutes. He is not supposed to last in STF for a minute. But the fact that he hung until the last couple of seconds gives him a lot of credibility. And for all of those who think Cena can't crank in the STF talk to Edge who got put to sleep by it legit.
Kudos to both Cena and Orton for giving us an amazing match last night.
But anyway it was a really fun match to watch. In my opinion it was better than HBK Vs Undertaker at WM. But that's just me. They had some really cool spots worked into the match. Both men sold the match great and the finish even though a little bit predictable was very fitting. Why not let Orton last 5 more seconds? Simple, he's been hit with everything possible for 59 minutes. He is not supposed to last in STF for a minute. But the fact that he hung until the last couple of seconds gives him a lot of credibility. And for all of those who think Cena can't crank in the STF talk to Edge who got put to sleep by it legit.
Kudos to both Cena and Orton for giving us an amazing match last night.
Well the match was very good, finally these two show some sick chemistry.
For me a lot in the middle was dragged but the first minutes were really cool and the last fifteen minutes really made me doubt a little about my prediction of Cena winning (posted on the make or break for Cena topic on the match) but int he end it happened and as I said it before, the WWE does not has the balls to allow Cena to lose over that kind of stipulation. Sorry but by no means this was close to Taker/HBK at WM25 but it was very good.
Well like a crybaby if you will (no Cena hater, psycologically, the guy has it going, he showed last night he knows how to get people to go nuts when he is focus), but as far as his arsenal goes, damn I was a little dissapointed, he could have showed more freaking moves, really he has a lot more and I have seen it but for some freaking reason he just did the same thing over and over again, he really feels comfortable with the small offense he usually pulls and that is what for me dragged it a little (I mean, The top rope and the table one were cool but he used the damn shoulder block like his life depended of it and he missed a lot of times), on the other hand Orton was very good, not a fan of his, but man the guy knew how to work last night, he really looked like the million bucks heel he is supposed to be.
I was little dissapointed at the end but saw it comming by a mile when they were even, I was like "this is going to end like the last few matches between Orton and Taker = ref bump-rko-to much time for the ref to get there and a kick out-then Orton loses", but was expecting a big AA or Orton passing out from the STF, not tapping with 5 seconds left!
That for me was a little bogus since is like Orton's life is the WWE Championship, how in Hell is he not going take 5 more seconds and give up everything (since the stipulation says no rematch) he is about that easy? at least like a great champ they should have made him pass out from the pain and give the match to Cena because of it, that way he could blame it on the officials, this way Orton cannot blame anyone but himself.
With that said, the logical man won and the right man lost. You can't take Cena off Raw and send him to SD for merchandice and exposure purposes, Cena is more money for them on Raw and Kids do not dig Orton (well at least most of them), maybe women do, but not the kids and those kids are the ones who tell their parents to buy them Cena's stuff. So about money this was the right move.
Also the blood spot was legit, there are some reports that the cleaned Ceana up because of the interaction in the crowd later on and how it could have caused some issues with the attletic comission of the State, so don't expect more blood any time soon.
For me a lot in the middle was dragged but the first minutes were really cool and the last fifteen minutes really made me doubt a little about my prediction of Cena winning (posted on the make or break for Cena topic on the match) but int he end it happened and as I said it before, the WWE does not has the balls to allow Cena to lose over that kind of stipulation. Sorry but by no means this was close to Taker/HBK at WM25 but it was very good.
Well like a crybaby if you will (no Cena hater, psycologically, the guy has it going, he showed last night he knows how to get people to go nuts when he is focus), but as far as his arsenal goes, damn I was a little dissapointed, he could have showed more freaking moves, really he has a lot more and I have seen it but for some freaking reason he just did the same thing over and over again, he really feels comfortable with the small offense he usually pulls and that is what for me dragged it a little (I mean, The top rope and the table one were cool but he used the damn shoulder block like his life depended of it and he missed a lot of times), on the other hand Orton was very good, not a fan of his, but man the guy knew how to work last night, he really looked like the million bucks heel he is supposed to be.
I was little dissapointed at the end but saw it comming by a mile when they were even, I was like "this is going to end like the last few matches between Orton and Taker = ref bump-rko-to much time for the ref to get there and a kick out-then Orton loses", but was expecting a big AA or Orton passing out from the STF, not tapping with 5 seconds left!
That for me was a little bogus since is like Orton's life is the WWE Championship, how in Hell is he not going take 5 more seconds and give up everything (since the stipulation says no rematch) he is about that easy? at least like a great champ they should have made him pass out from the pain and give the match to Cena because of it, that way he could blame it on the officials, this way Orton cannot blame anyone but himself.
With that said, the logical man won and the right man lost. You can't take Cena off Raw and send him to SD for merchandice and exposure purposes, Cena is more money for them on Raw and Kids do not dig Orton (well at least most of them), maybe women do, but not the kids and those kids are the ones who tell their parents to buy them Cena's stuff. So about money this was the right move.
Also the blood spot was legit, there are some reports that the cleaned Ceana up because of the interaction in the crowd later on and how it could have caused some issues with the attletic comission of the State, so don't expect more blood any time soon.
Brilliant match. It more than delivered, it just annoys me this match was given away on a nothing PPV.
There were no long periods of rest holds, which makes it better than HBK/Hart already, it told a great story all the way through with great amounts of brutality. Yes, it wasn't as brutal as old school ECW for those who thinks that matters, but who cares? This is WWE wrestling and it was as brutal as it could be in the PG guidelines.
The ending was done perfectly. Fuck you all who didn't like it. Everyone came out of it well, Orton managed to survive what is, kayfabe, the most deadliest of submission holds in the WWE, for nearly a minute. He was about to pass out from it, so he tapped. "But it was just three seconds" so fuck? If you were about to pass out from something you wouldn't think "just three more seconds" would you?
The hour flew by, the sign of a great long match. The RKO/AA spot was brilliantly done. Cena "snapping" and throwing Orton through the table was brilliantly done.
It delivered and it deserves respect, especially after all the shit the match up got before it even took place. It ends a great rivalry, one of the few that has genuinely got the fans involved.
There were no long periods of rest holds, which makes it better than HBK/Hart already, it told a great story all the way through with great amounts of brutality. Yes, it wasn't as brutal as old school ECW for those who thinks that matters, but who cares? This is WWE wrestling and it was as brutal as it could be in the PG guidelines.
The ending was done perfectly. Fuck you all who didn't like it. Everyone came out of it well, Orton managed to survive what is, kayfabe, the most deadliest of submission holds in the WWE, for nearly a minute. He was about to pass out from it, so he tapped. "But it was just three seconds" so fuck? If you were about to pass out from something you wouldn't think "just three more seconds" would you?
The hour flew by, the sign of a great long match. The RKO/AA spot was brilliantly done. Cena "snapping" and throwing Orton through the table was brilliantly done.
It delivered and it deserves respect, especially after all the shit the match up got before it even took place. It ends a great rivalry, one of the few that has genuinely got the fans involved.
Fuck it for not like it? you have your opinion and I have my opinion of things as it is, actuallly like I said before the match was pretty good and it delivered, the best of the series, but by no means the hour flew by.
And in all fairness if it depended on it, Orton would have pass out, he knew he had no more time left if he did, he saw the clock with less than 20 seconds left, I mean the first tap was logical since he had more than 45 minutes left but the second made nonsense since it was very close to finish with them even, what would he would have tought about it? hit an RKO with 20 seconds left? He knew his dream was about to crash and he did it anyway, that makes no sense whatsoever since the stipulation meant he can't ask for a rematch as long as Cena's reign last.
This match got shit before if started because most of the feud between them was like that, it doesn't matter if Cena called "The rivalry" of the WWE because it certainly was not.
And come on, the PPV was not bad at all, Morrison and the Miz had a solid bout, the 7 on 7 seven was entertaining, the Worl title match was quite good to with Batista finally turning.
THe PPV was good and it had a nice ME, will leave it like that.
Sean Valjean
Lets Bitch About This Thing We Love
Personally, I thought this match was good, but not great. Not quite MOTY (for me anyway), but still a pretty good match. An issue I had with this match is that there were just too many periods of just nothing. Something big would happen, a flurry of offense, then 5/10 minutes of laying around/setting up spots. I know that comes with Iron Man matches, but it was hard to stay engaged for the full 60 minutes when they spend a lot of it not doing too much. The 30 second intervals didn't help much either.
Another thing that took away from it was the stipulation. I knew the WWE wouldn't take Cena off Raw because Raw literally needs him there. If MVP or another face had been built up for the main event, I'd consider it, but since that's wasn't the case, they'd be dumb to take him off.
However, the stuff they did do was great. Cena getting busted open the hard way and refusing to be looked at by the medics was great. I really liked when Orton got the mic and seemed like he was going to say something, only to hit Cena with it; a nice nod t their I Quit match. Orton trying to blow Cena up with the pyro was a bit over-the-top, but showed how crazy Orton really was. We had the obligatory Legacy run-in, and Kofi chasing them away was a nice touch and made sense after the beat-down Cody gave him earlier. Orton's DDT to Cena off the apron was sick, as was Cena's two Super AA (off the top rope, and off the stairs through the announce table). The ending was pretty good too, I really thought Orton would hold on and we'd get a draw or go into overtime and actually had me on the edge of my seat, despite knowing Cena would win anyway.
Overall, this was a pretty good match, definitely better than their last two encounters. Not sure where Cena goes from here since Orton is the only main event heel on Raw. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens tonight on Raw.
Another thing that took away from it was the stipulation. I knew the WWE wouldn't take Cena off Raw because Raw literally needs him there. If MVP or another face had been built up for the main event, I'd consider it, but since that's wasn't the case, they'd be dumb to take him off.
However, the stuff they did do was great. Cena getting busted open the hard way and refusing to be looked at by the medics was great. I really liked when Orton got the mic and seemed like he was going to say something, only to hit Cena with it; a nice nod t their I Quit match. Orton trying to blow Cena up with the pyro was a bit over-the-top, but showed how crazy Orton really was. We had the obligatory Legacy run-in, and Kofi chasing them away was a nice touch and made sense after the beat-down Cody gave him earlier. Orton's DDT to Cena off the apron was sick, as was Cena's two Super AA (off the top rope, and off the stairs through the announce table). The ending was pretty good too, I really thought Orton would hold on and we'd get a draw or go into overtime and actually had me on the edge of my seat, despite knowing Cena would win anyway.
Overall, this was a pretty good match, definitely better than their last two encounters. Not sure where Cena goes from here since Orton is the only main event heel on Raw. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens tonight on Raw.
That is unfortunate for you. For me, it did fly by, and more importantly, it kept me wide awake at nearly three in the morning.
A heel pussying out makes no sense? Yes it does. He's a heel. He's not meant to look strong. He was against the top face in the whole company, why should he last a minute in the move when people like HHH and have tapped to the move?
I liked the feud. As far as I was concerned, every one of their matches has been good. Not my fault others can't appreciate it, and then choose to trash a match up before they've seen it.
I didn't say it was a bad PPV, I said the PPV was a nothing one, by which I mean not one of the Big Four. If it were on one of them events, it would have been much better. It was worthy of WrestleMania and it took place on what was Cyber Sunday. Yes, the PPV was very good, but the Main Event was too good for this PPV, if they want to keep the outlook that the Big Four are the most important ones.
Wow people are just blowing loads all over themselves over this match. Actually saddens me honestly. It wasn't a bad match by any means, but it was not a classic encounter like some of you are claiming. It was average, maybe slightly above average, somewhere around the rating of a 3.5 out of 5. Hardly match of the year candidate stuff here, both men looked like shit getting pinned every 20 seconds, and the pyro spot was one of the stupidest things I've seen in the WWE this year (and that's saying something).
Easily the worst Iron Man match the WWE has ever done though. Not a bad match, but not this classic that everyone seems to think it was.
Easily the worst Iron Man match the WWE has ever done though. Not a bad match, but not this classic that everyone seems to think it was.
FromTheSouth
You don't want it with me.
This was far and away the best match on the card and a possible match of the year.
First of all, everyone of the pins was creative. There was a stretegic tap out, a run in, a surprise roll up, and a struggle tap out at the end, among others. Both men looked extremely strong in that it took extenuating circumstances for every one of those falls.
Secondly, the told an amazing story in the ring. They showed frustration, they pulled out all the stops. Cena showed that his morals are corruptible in the way he sought revenge at the end. Cena looked extremely tough and Orton, diabolical. Pyschologically, the match was top notch. Both men were playing can you top this, and each pin, each move got more vicious than the last. The match built up to a fever pitch. If nothing else, you know it was a success in that Cena got booed on the way in and cheered on the way out.
The pyro spot was interesting. Regular viewers of WWE know that pyro does not kill you (Jeff Hardy), it only puts you out for a couple of weeks, so the pyro is not the sadistic "attempted murder" that people seem to want to call it. It was an interesting spot that clearly illustrated Orton's frustration with never being able to put Cena away. It made sense in the story line, as Orton is the guy who handcuffed Cena to the ring, and made him watch as Cena, Sr. was pulled from the audience and punted in the head. Orton came off as a sick fuck, and creative pulled it off pretty well, especially with the mid match change in plans.
First of all, everyone of the pins was creative. There was a stretegic tap out, a run in, a surprise roll up, and a struggle tap out at the end, among others. Both men looked extremely strong in that it took extenuating circumstances for every one of those falls.
Secondly, the told an amazing story in the ring. They showed frustration, they pulled out all the stops. Cena showed that his morals are corruptible in the way he sought revenge at the end. Cena looked extremely tough and Orton, diabolical. Pyschologically, the match was top notch. Both men were playing can you top this, and each pin, each move got more vicious than the last. The match built up to a fever pitch. If nothing else, you know it was a success in that Cena got booed on the way in and cheered on the way out.
The pyro spot was interesting. Regular viewers of WWE know that pyro does not kill you (Jeff Hardy), it only puts you out for a couple of weeks, so the pyro is not the sadistic "attempted murder" that people seem to want to call it. It was an interesting spot that clearly illustrated Orton's frustration with never being able to put Cena away. It made sense in the story line, as Orton is the guy who handcuffed Cena to the ring, and made him watch as Cena, Sr. was pulled from the audience and punted in the head. Orton came off as a sick fuck, and creative pulled it off pretty well, especially with the mid match change in plans.
I thought this was a pretty solid bout and a good way to end the feud(for the time being).
It certainly wasnt MOTY. I would put it behind Taker/HBK, Jericho/Mysterio, Morrison/Mysterio. It might not be in my top 5 but definitely in my top 10.
I just know that the wwe will push this match as being one of the greatest of all time. I'm sure they will talk about it with Hart/Michaels and have trouble deciding which one is better.
It certainly wasnt MOTY. I would put it behind Taker/HBK, Jericho/Mysterio, Morrison/Mysterio. It might not be in my top 5 but definitely in my top 10.
I just know that the wwe will push this match as being one of the greatest of all time. I'm sure they will talk about it with Hart/Michaels and have trouble deciding which one is better.
We do apologise for not following your strict guidelines on what you can or can't like in professional wrestling, obviously not everyone is going to like the same thing.
Well it was to me. Easily the best thing I've seen this year. Yes, Jericho and Mysterio was brilliant, but this one topped it for me.
A match with a full 60 minutes of action is worse than the first one which had about 20 minutes of action? Fair enough, but that will never be the case for me. Up there with Rock vs HHH.
Little Jerry Lawler
Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids
HBK/Hart is in the discussion for the worst one as it was just an hour of restholds and laying around. Only reason why it's considered great because it was tied 0-0 and went to sudden death. I didn't like Lesnar/Angle either.
I loved this match. Rock/HHH had the same if not more pinfalls then this match and I don't see anybody talking shit about that one. I don't see how it made Orton or Cena look weak in any way. They both told a great story and this is a MOTY candidate right in the running with any of the Jericho/Mysterio matches and miles ahead of the overrated HBK/Taker match.
Lucky for you I don't really give a shit about whether or not you liked the match.
That's nice. I've seen better matches in the WWE, TNA, ROH, and Dragon Gate this year. Jericho-Mysterio among many others tops last night's match easily. Shit I'd take Morrison's title victory over Mysterio on Smackdown a few weeks back over the Cena-Orton encounter last night. Much better match.
I love how everyone talks all about how wrestling isn't about action, but it's about "storytelling", and than people shit on the first Iron Man match, which is quite possibly one of the greatest examples of a story being told in the ring.
Yeah, the first Iron Man match had a lot more than just restholds. It was easily a better match than Orton and Cena's last night, and Lesnar/Angle blows it out of the water as well.
Maybe because both Rock and Triple H are such lightyears ahead of both Orton and Cena as wrestlers? And they can actually carry a full hour without making me look at the time every 5 minutes and yawning?
Let me get this straight, you praise this match for "telling a great story", than call the first Iron Man match shit. Do you not see the flaw in your logic here?
Yet it saddens you that many people found it interesting? That's what I don't get, if you don't like it, tell us why you don't like it, we'll say why we do like it. Saying fans who liked it "deeply saddens you" is not needed.
Couldn't comment on the other companies, and frankly couldn't give a shit, but yes Jericho/Mysterio and Mysterio/Morrison were excellent, but so was last night. It's a close call between the three in my eyes. I'd have to watch them all again come the end of the year to decide.
Wrestling's about both. Yes the first ironman match had a good story but it sent me to sleep the first time I watched it, in the middle of the day. Last night's had me captivated for the full hour, at 2am. Safe to say, I enjoyed last night's a hell of a lot more.
SAVE_YOURSELVES_111
Proud to be a Moore-On!
Classic encounter my ass! Look, I enjoyed the whole action film concept at "Breaking Point", but that's about as good as this whole sorry ass anti-climatic feud got for me.
I mean, Randy tried to blow Cena up! That's how the commentators put it? I mean, what was next, Randy demands ONE...MILLION DOLLARS??? I mean, that was beyond ******ed.
Then of course we had Orton's reaction, after getting rolled up, that made a lot of sense, but the refs whole, "You gotta give him 30 seconds?". And Randy...obliges??? Just after he tried to kill him????????????????? WTF?? What was the ref gonna do, DISQUALIFY him, in a no dq match? This isn't WCW.
I will grant Orton's stalling tactic at the 19 minute mark was smart, but poorly placed at the wrong time in this match.
And Randy, hanging on for nearly a minute, tapped out with less than 5 seconds to go?? I don't buy that for a second.
I had trouble taking this seriously as Randy Orton chaneling Gerard Butler kinda killed it for me.
Wasn't bad despite my gripes, but hardly a classic by any stretch of the imagination!!!
I mean, Randy tried to blow Cena up! That's how the commentators put it? I mean, what was next, Randy demands ONE...MILLION DOLLARS??? I mean, that was beyond ******ed.
Then of course we had Orton's reaction, after getting rolled up, that made a lot of sense, but the refs whole, "You gotta give him 30 seconds?". And Randy...obliges??? Just after he tried to kill him????????????????? WTF?? What was the ref gonna do, DISQUALIFY him, in a no dq match? This isn't WCW.
I will grant Orton's stalling tactic at the 19 minute mark was smart, but poorly placed at the wrong time in this match.
And Randy, hanging on for nearly a minute, tapped out with less than 5 seconds to go?? I don't buy that for a second.
I had trouble taking this seriously as Randy Orton chaneling Gerard Butler kinda killed it for me.
Wasn't bad despite my gripes, but hardly a classic by any stretch of the imagination!!!
Honestly going into these match I thought I was going to be disappointed. Surely enough I was glad I was wrong. This was a really really good match. Borderline classic. This match had everything I wanted from a match... Solid wrestling, that became an all out brawl, and it had a good story... I challenge anyone to deny that.
There were points in the match which Orton looked sick. They let him go this time, instead of reeling him back like they did at Breaking Point. I personally liked the pyro stunt. It add to the match. Showing just how far Orton would go to retain the title. They also made Cena look strong. The spot where he was busted open and gave the AA that Orton countered into an RKO was nice! Then at the end they made him look good. Both men look strong, I don't understand how someone could look weak from that match. As far as I'm concerned that was the strongest Orton has looked since Before Mania.
I personally liked the ending. Orton went for the move that punt and Cena put him in the STF. Was it predicable? Maybe, but it was a great way for the match to end. It was a nice match, one of the best of the year. Not Match of the year ('Taker vs Michaels) but up there none the less. It was the best match that these two have ever had. That's just me though....
There were points in the match which Orton looked sick. They let him go this time, instead of reeling him back like they did at Breaking Point. I personally liked the pyro stunt. It add to the match. Showing just how far Orton would go to retain the title. They also made Cena look strong. The spot where he was busted open and gave the AA that Orton countered into an RKO was nice! Then at the end they made him look good. Both men look strong, I don't understand how someone could look weak from that match. As far as I'm concerned that was the strongest Orton has looked since Before Mania.
I personally liked the ending. Orton went for the move that punt and Cena put him in the STF. Was it predicable? Maybe, but it was a great way for the match to end. It was a nice match, one of the best of the year. Not Match of the year ('Taker vs Michaels) but up there none the less. It was the best match that these two have ever had. That's just me though....
Look X, you know I'm right there with you in Cena hatred, but you can't let that take away from what was an outstanding match.
This match had everything, everything, that a great match should have. The storytelling was there, it had drama, it had suspense, and it had great action. What was a major plus for me though, was the fact that Cena wasn't dominated for the entire hour and that he actually carried the majority of the offense at the end. I really liked to see that.
All in all, I was very happy with the match and this is far and away their greatest encounter. Especially when compared to the shit that they put on this year.
It should be a MOTY candidate, however, it wasn't better than 'Taker/HBK at WM 25. 'Taker/HBK might be a touch overrated, however, it was still a classic match and it is the best match we have seen this year by far.
Why not? It does sadden me that it seems like alot of peoples standards are lower than my own. That's my opinion on the matter, what I don't see is why you felt the need to respond to my post. Sorry if I came off dickish, but I don't see the point of arguing with you about a match that you enjoyed, and that I thought was average.
I'm going to give the Iron Man match another watch sometime this week as well, and see if maybe it impresses me more on the second viewing.
Cool. Awesome. Good for you. I didn't. I remember watching that Iron Man match when I was ten years old and it kept me glued to the screen the entire hour. Pretty hard to do with a hyperactive ten year old.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
Well, what the fuck ever, I thought the match was absolutely phenomenal. Easily the best match eaither guy has ever had. I dont feel it is MOTY though, I still give that to Jericho Vs Rey Rey at Extreme Rules. But still, this fucking owned SO damn hard. A 60 minute match with EVERYTHING, and barely any wasted time with rest holds. Shit, this match has more activity than their normal one on one encounters have. I cant even begin to name all the fucking ace spots. The RKO out of nowere during the AA was fucking AWESOME. The legit blood and cut crew was fucking AWESOME. Legacy coming out and Kofi coming to the rescue was fucking AWESOME. Orton FLYING through a table, fucking badass. Awesome, awesome match. Blows the WM12 match sky fucking high out of the water. this was a damn war.
Yeah I thought the match was awesome and deserves MOTY consideration it surpasses the Hart HBK match which was an overrated rest hold fest that had a great finish that's it.
I thought Orton looked sadistic maniacal and played his role perfectly he made the crowd really believe he would do anything and the whole arena was behind Cena which is rare because Cena usually fails at getting cheers.
I thought Orton looked sadistic maniacal and played his role perfectly he made the crowd really believe he would do anything and the whole arena was behind Cena which is rare because Cena usually fails at getting cheers.
the way the match was going you think that orton would win, for a good 45-50 mins cena was being beaten and then he wins? i would like to meet wwe createive team ask them why push the match in way of orton and then have cena win the title, ok maybe its just me on this one but cena with title is getting boreing and it has been for a while