Boring Boring Boring

[spinarooni]

The obvious discussion of this thread is the boring chant. I personally think its disrespectful even given the shitty writing. WWE did this to themselves. They created the monster when allowing the SCSA/Lance Storm segment. Do you as fans agree with the boring chant or is it justified given the atrocious writing?

 

[Slick21]

Yes I agree, because most of it is fucking boring. If don't you don't complain or express your feelings about something, then they're going to continue to do it.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

The obvious discussion of this thread is the boring chant. I personally think its disrespectful even given the shitty writing. WWE did this to themselves. They created the monster when allowing the SCSA/Lance Storm segment. Do you as fans agree with the boring chant or is it justified given the atrocious writing?

Its not disrespectful. It was boring. Cena is boring. Hence, why they were chanting "boring".

And what percentage of the people who were chanting "boring" at Cena would have any idea what you're talking about in regards to a "SCSA/Lance Storm" segment from 10+ years ago??

 

[King_of_Swing1520]

i find nothing wrong with the boring chants because usually what's happening when they chant it is well boring lol. but i don't like it when the chant "you can't wrestle" at fandango. i understand most fans don't know about his work as Johnny Curtis in NXT or FCW but come on. the guy can go in the ring. if they are going to chant "you can't wrestle" it should be at people like brodus clay or ryback. those who actually don't have any mat wrestling skill.

but back to the original topic. usually i dont have a problem with the boring chants. i think its disrespectful during a match. especially in diva's matches. its usually not their fault the matches suck and are so short. im sure alot of the divas are decent wrestlers but are never given opportunities to showcase their talent. but then again the fans paid so they can chant whatever the hell they want.

 

[JustB]

The boring chant was around a looong time before the Austin/Lance Storm segment. It got chanted plenty of times in ECW back in the mid 90s. I also remember one specifically horrible match between Mideon and Big Bossman where they chanted it almost the entire time lol

It's kinda cringeworthy when its chanted, I'll admit though. You can't help but feel for the wrestlers who are trying their best with some of the boring material they're given to work with

 

[FarFromFine]

Due to the fact that I can't recall a time that the crowd chanted "boring" when I wasn't also thinking the same thing then I will say that I don't mind it. I'd be more concerned if I thought it was boring and the crowd was popping like crazy. I'm not crazy about the "you can't wrestle" chants though. I'm not sure if it's good or bad that they give them to Fandango even though he hasn't actually wrestled yet. I think it's good for his gimmick in a way because it gives him heat then, hopefully, against Jericho at WM he will show everyone that they're wrong and he can go.

 

[FarFromFine]

The boring chant was around a looong time before the Austin/Lance Storm segment. It got chanted plenty of times in ECW back in the mid 90s. I also remember one specifically horrible match between Mideon and Big Bossman where they chanted it almost the entire time lol

It's kinda cringeworthy when its chanted, I'll admit though. You can't help but feel for the wrestlers who are trying their best with some of the boring material they're given to work with

I do agree about feeling badly for the wrestlers getting the chants. I'd love for, just once, a wrestler not just ignore the chants. Do something like yell "you think this is BORING! I'll show you pricks boring" and lay in a rear chinlock for 5 minutes. That would get major league heat.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

To me, theres a difference between chanting "Boring" during a match, or as was the case on Monday Night, during a PROMO.

I'll tell you one time the "Boring" chants actually bothered me. Monday Night RAW in the summer of '98 at the Continental Airlines Arena. I was there. Bart Gunn vs. Bob Holly in the Brawl for All. These guys were legit punching the shit out of each other and there was a "boring" chant. It pissed me off because it showed me that a lot of people weren't buying that it was a shoot.

 

[JustB]

i find nothing wrong with the boring chants because usually what's happening when they chant it is well boring lol. but i don't like it when the chant "you can't wrestle" at fandango. i understand most fans don't know about his work as Johnny Curtis in NXT or FCW but come on. the guy can go in the ring. if they are going to chant "you can't wrestle" it should be at people like brodus clay or ryback. those who actually don't have any mat wrestling skill.

but back to the original topic. usually i dont have a problem with the boring chants. i think its disrespectful during a match. especially in diva's matches. its usually not their fault the matches suck and are so short. im sure alot of the divas are decent wrestlers but are never given opportunities to showcase their talent. but then again the fans paid so they can chant whatever the hell they want.

Sorry to backtrack but I just noticed this part and I agree 100%. The divas get so much negative backlash but the truth is just like you said, they don't get a fair chance. Michelle McCool gave an interview a while back and she said the Divas actually get yelled at if they put on a match and its too good. She said at one taping her and Melina I think it was, had a great match and as she was getting changed out of her gear Melina came back and told her that they wanted them to go back out and RE-SHOOT the match because it was too good. Another example came when she said they were actually scolded by Vince after a match for upstaging the men's matches.

The girls have potential, but for whatever reason WWE doesn't want them to thrive

 

[MaverickMeyer]

if they are going to chant "you can't wrestle" it should be at people like brodus clay or ryback. those who actually don't have any mat wrestling skill.

Wrestling is not just mat skill, technical style. Power wrestling is just as much a part of wrestling as locks and holds.

 

[Miz_America]

I think the boring chant is usually justified. Lets face it, most speaking segments on WWE programming is straight up PAINFUL to sit and listen to. The real problem with chants during promos is Stone Cold's terrible "what" chant. "What" killed promos as we knew them for a good 2 years, and still pop up far too often today. Boring chants occur when whoever is talking is being boring. 'What' is just something stupid ass people in crowds now say EVERY time someone is on the mic. I love Steve Austin, but he fucked up starting that trend. So in short.... Boring - usually justified. What - the worst thing to happen to pro wrestling since Fu Naki.

 

[Nada]

Really guys? Chanting "Boring" is disrespectful toward a company that is using a recently dead guy to further one of their storylines? From having his ashes spread on TV infront of millions?

The company is getting about as much respect as they deserve, hell the fans are too polite for some of absolute crap they have to put up with. A generic, long winded John Cena promo to start out RAW would in the past gotten people to throw trash into the ring

 

[TheHorndogSays]

If the fans have a right to yell, cheer, applaud, chant "this is awesome", etc. then they also have the right to chant "boring". Let's take the Cena promo since that seems to be the catalyst for this post. Fans for the most part stay quiet when someone is talking except to boo or cheer so how can the brass know something isn't working. They will think the fans are just listening. When they start chanting BORING then the brass knows something needs to be fixed. The same goes for a match. If the fans are not entertained by a match they have just as much a right to chant BORING as they do to Boo/Cheer or "pop" for a big move. That right doesn't make a difference if it's a women's match or a men's wrestling match. If they are not being entertained then they can chant boring. They paid the money to be entertained. That usually means the match has lasted too long and they should end the match soon and work on timing of future matches

 

[Pedigree1]

Wow two schools on thought on this one! First the audience does indeed pay their own hard earned money so really does that give them the right to chant what they want? I find the boring chant to be completely disrespectful IMO but sometimes well a match is boring but the stars in the ring are trying their hardest.

Second akin it to this one! I watch as much MMA as i do WWE! Awhile ago i forgot who was fighting but a fighter named Pat Barry who was a spectator at this particular fight a heckler was egging on a couple of flyweights saying all sorts of shit like ****** and what have yah! Pat Barry basically clowned this guy so bad the dude had his head hung in shame for the rest of the night! If a wrestler did this to a heckler while being a spectator told him to shove it and lets see if he can do better maybe these boring chants would be happen a little less

 

[JJ15776]

I have no problem with "boring" chants when something is boring. But it does annoy me when there's a "boring" chant because the marks want to seem smarky, and they think it's "cool" to chant "boring" at something they don't like. In other words, legitimate "boring" chants = good. Kayfabe "boring" chants = stupid.

Like the "boring" chant during Cena's promo. That was a kayfabe chant. His promo wasn't boring, they just didn't like what he was saying, so they chanted that instead of booing. It's stupid. It's just like the "you can't wrestle" chants directed at Fandango. Stupid.

EDIT:

Really guys? Chanting "Boring" is disrespectful toward a company that is using a recently dead guy to further one of their storylines? From having his ashes spread on TV infront of millions?

Speaking of stupid, what in god's name are you smoking? Undertaker's had that urn for over 20 years. How the hell did his ashes get in there 20 years before he died? This must be your first week watching WWE or something. Wow. And this must be your first day on the internet, otherwise you would've read that Paul Bearer's family OK'ed this entire storyline in advance and have been fine with how it played out. If they don't have a problem with it, I'm not sure who you think you are to say it's not acceptable.

Seriously, I still can't wrap my head around the pure, unadulterated idiocy that has to be flowing through somebody's body to think this CM Punk/Undertaker feud has been a negative in any way.

 

[Jeritron5000]

I Like the "boring" chant during Cena's promo. That was a kayfabe chant. His promo wasn't boring, they just didn't like what he was saying, so they chanted that instead of booing.

I hope you're joking. That promo was awful. And it was boring. A kayfabe chant? No. It wasn't some game...people were bored.

As far as fan expression goes, I think it would be more disrespectful for the Universe to be looked down upon for voicing displeasure with the product or talent.

 

[MCMG]

To be honest, I think many of the people chanting "boring" are the same guys who want to watch Dean Ambrose V Cm Punk V Daniel Bryan (oh sorry, is it Bryan Danielson) for the whole 3 hours of Raw and than 4 for Mania.

People have different tastes of what is entertaining and what is boring. I think Cena was being deliberately acting subdued and refraining from acting like his usual self. Even the biggest Cena haters can't deny that Cena isn't entertaining 95% of the time. Cena as been acting normal for 11 months but all of a sudden his life is in spiral. That is quite difficult to portray and Cena was trying to do that.

Again, guys like Tensai, Clay, Ryback are boring for some people - I to an extent agree - but many find them entertaining.

If everyone was the same than wrestling would be shit. If all the fans had the same opinion: wrestling wouldn't be the same. This is very relevant seeing as Mania is just days away.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I don't necessarily find them disrespectful or accurate to be honest. They're just kind of there really. The boring chants that we heard with Cena might be because of one thing: John Cena. Cena was the only one who got the "boring" treatment that night and maybe it's because it was a very anti-Cena crowd. Cena did get cheers but they were swallowed up by the boos.

When it comes to the chants, I just take them in stride. They're something we hear fans chant sometimes in which they've been done so often that they've kind of lost a lot of meaning. For instance, I've watched TNA and I can't count the number of times I've heard a "this is awesome" chant break out just because a wrestler does a suicide dive over the top rope. I've heard fans chant "you've still got it" to wrestlers who clearly don't. For instance, a few years back, I watched a Jim Neidhart match and Jim was very out of shape, slow, unathletic and flat out sloppy, yet 1,000+ people chanted "you've still got it". Why? Just because of what he was 25 years ago?

 

[SydTinDad]

I would say to the WWE brass..............to f*ckin' bad! You reap what you sew.

When your story lines are absolute garbage and you have the gaul to charge the ticket prices you do for a seat, especially $60 on PPV for this horse shit of a card for WM29, your dam right "boring" is appropriate. If VKM truly believes the bullshit he spews about how the 'universe' calls the shots, he would do the right thing, listen to the masses, and put out a better product.

Cena is boring........plain and simple. Well deserved.

 

[The Butcher]

If the fans have a right to yell, cheer, applaud, chant "this is awesome", etc. then they also have the right to chant "boring". Let's take the Cena promo since that seems to be the catalyst for this post. Fans for the most part stay quiet when someone is talking except to boo or cheer so how can the brass know something isn't working. They will think the fans are just listening. When they start chanting BORING then the brass knows something needs to be fixed. The same goes for a match. If the fans are not entertained by a match they have just as much a right to chant BORING as they do to Boo/Cheer or "pop" for a big move. That right doesn't make a difference if it's a women's match or a men's wrestling match. If they are not being entertained then they can chant boring. They paid the money to be entertained. That usually means the match has lasted too long and they should end the match soon and work on timing of future matches

That emboldened part right there is the end to this whole asinine discussion. Has anyone claiming it's disrespectful ever paid money to attend a Raw or SmackDown taping? It's not cheap. Especially taking into account gas money, concessions, and the ridiculous mark-up on merchandise. As long as an individual isn't being vulgar, he or she can yell whatever they damn well please.

People need to get over this "respectful/disrespectful" nonsense as it pertains to pro wrestling. It's fucking pro wrestling. It isn't serious, it isn't real, and if you think for one minute that the people behind the curtain respect your mark ass, then you're every bit the rube that they're looking for.

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

People chant "Boring" because they don't find it entertaining. When they find something entertaining they won't chant "Boring".

 

[Sid Schmid]

I didn't like the boring chants during the Wade Barrett-Miz match the other week because the crowd were wrong. That match was ok, certainly not boring. The chants during the Cena promo were justified as he was going on and on and it was dull.

 

[King_of_Swing1520]

Really guys? Chanting "Boring" is disrespectful toward a company that is using a recently dead guy to further one of their storylines? From having his ashes spread on TV infront of millions?

The company is getting about as much respect as they deserve, hell the fans are too polite for some of absolute crap they have to put up with. A generic, long winded John Cena promo to start out RAW would in the past gotten people to throw trash into the ring

its not disrespectful to the company. fuck the company. its disrespectful to the performers to chant boring during a match when the wrestlers in the ring are giving their all to entertain. during an actual boring promo is one thing, but the fans should not chant boring during match.

 

[King_of_Swing1520]

and if you think for one minute that the people behind the curtain respect your mark ass, then you're every bit the rube that they're looking for.

i would hope they respect the fans and the fans opinions. thats what makes them their money. the fans are what drive the business.

 

[The Butcher]

i would hope they respect the fans and the fans opinions. thats what makes them their money. the fans are what drive the business.

I would hope so too, but every day I see opinions about tag divisions, mid-card titles, Cena heel turns, etc. etc. etc. that go un-listened to by WWE. This is a corporation we're talking about, not a Mom & Pop green grocer. They respect money. They want money. They listen to money. Fans are just wallets with noise holes.

Think about it. If they respected our opinions so much, why do they dub over our opinions on taped shows and in recaps? If they respected our opinions so much, why would they turn a popular world champion heel? WWE only cares about our opinions when our opinions jibe with the story they're trying to tell. We're the only live studio audience in all of television that pays to attend and then still gets dubbed over with a laugh track if we don't guffaw at bad jokes.

And just a last edit for the sake of clarifying: I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm calling it as I see it. Most companies/corporations really only do worry about money. It's not until their money gets hurt that they respond to customer complaints. I don't see WWE any differently anymore.