Book This! - General Discussion
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@wrestling fan:
You shouldn't be writing a BT for approval. You should be writing it because you want to and because you enjoy it. Not because you want others to say how great you are. If others wish to say it's great, they can, if they want to give you advice and feedback, they can. Ultimately, it's your decision whether or not you take that on board. If you don't like the feedback, constructively argue back - Proph and I had issues with Peep booking Christian vs. Edge but Peep didn't take offence by it, he resolved to prove us wrong and he did too. Or you could just ignore it and focus on the feedback you've got that you like. Like I say, don't write it to please us, write it because you enjoy it. If we like it, consider that a bonus.
Either way, stop picking fights. People have been more than patient with you. I think it is clear that people are now getting sick of it.
That's why Peep posted it in here, rather than in your thread. He doesn't like it. Move on. Get on with your life. I thought it was an improvement. That doesn't mean that Peep and I are going to fall out. People have opinions.
GCB
You shouldn't be writing a BT for approval. You should be writing it because you want to and because you enjoy it. Not because you want others to say how great you are. If others wish to say it's great, they can, if they want to give you advice and feedback, they can. Ultimately, it's your decision whether or not you take that on board. If you don't like the feedback, constructively argue back - Proph and I had issues with Peep booking Christian vs. Edge but Peep didn't take offence by it, he resolved to prove us wrong and he did too. Or you could just ignore it and focus on the feedback you've got that you like. Like I say, don't write it to please us, write it because you enjoy it. If we like it, consider that a bonus.
Either way, stop picking fights. People have been more than patient with you. I think it is clear that people are now getting sick of it.
That's why Peep posted it in here, rather than in your thread. He doesn't like it. Move on. Get on with your life. I thought it was an improvement. That doesn't mean that Peep and I are going to fall out. People have opinions.
GCB
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
Who's the one pickign fights when I post "Thursday Night Annihilation" and then Peep critcizes saying something like "it's not just length that needs fixing" Now ask me how exactly does that help anyone but a plain insult. Also you're contradicting what your saying, if you're saying a BT is jsut because you enjoy it then why did you and others complain how my first show was "too short" or even the fact that a running gag on here is "Rate My Show"
Da Prophet
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Little "Sign Guy" Jimmy;3339296 said:
You know it.
I agree the comment wasn't needed and Peep makes it clear he doesn't like you. It's that simple. Peep is allowed to not like you, get over it. At times Peep and I don't see eye to eye but we get over it. Do the same.
I couldn't care less if Peep was a prick but if he writes better then someone I'm going to give him the credit that he has earned. Peep can say whatever he likes, but at the end of the day he can write well. I can't use anything else to use against him other then the writing because I don't know him personally.
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
How does his writing justify what he does?
Da Prophet
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Because that is how things work around here. We want the best writes, not best friends. The better the writer the better the section. Someone may be terrible at writing but is a nice person, well I don't want them. I would rather have a guy who is a prick but is a great writer. If you had to pick between the two, I think the majority of the section who take the great writer.
Of course we do find people who are nice and great writers, aka GCB.
Whoa, cowboy, back up. I've not done anything wrong!
Your reaction to Peep is the way you're picking fights.
Peep: "it's not just length that needs fixing"
He's right. There are a lot of other issues. However, like I said, you have written a longer show, there is more detail, it is better, YOU HAVE IMPROVED! Are you perfect? Not a chance, not yet. Could you be? If you listen to advice, like we've been saying. End of the day, if you're happy writing it, that is all that matters.
I write my BT because I enjoy it. Fact. I enjoy writing it, I enjoy sharing it, I enjoy the fact that people like it. If I don't enjoy doing it or I lose motivation, I will stop. Fact. I don't care if Proph wants me to get to WrestleMania and have a Cena-Orton match, I don't care if Peep wants me to book Steve Blackman as champion and I don't care how much anybody wants me to make Hornswoggle the champion. I write it because I enjoy it. If you don't enjoy writing your BT, you shouldn't be writing it.
As for me 'contradicting myself' then I think you have again misunderstood what most people think BT is about. You write it because you enjoy it. If you want to, you can take the feedback on board. You're the first person I've seen on here who objects to criticism. 99.9% of BT'ers value the feedback because it helps them get better. So, the established guys like Proph, TSG, Peep, Theo and myself will give feedback to newbies like you. Most new BT'ers want that and appreciate that. That's why we do it. I won't stop giving feedback to the newbies because one person doesn't like it. Quite frankly, I won't be giving you any feedback now nor will I be reading it. I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
Da Prophet
Mid-Card Championship Winner
SAVE_US_GCB!
EDIT: And I know you were kidding about not doing Orton/Cena at Mania. Hornswoggle for champion!
EDIT: And I know you were kidding about not doing Orton/Cena at Mania. Hornswoggle for champion!
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
Whoa, cowboy, back up. I've not done anything wrong!
Your reaction to Peep is the way you're picking fights.
Peep: "it's not just length that needs fixing"
I never said I didn't enjoy it but comment's like Peeps' make me want to quit
I object to the criticism because that's all I hear critcism, I don't ever hear any good things, I haven't even got a constructive response, the whole time the show's been posted,
Your reaction to Peep is the way you're picking fights.
Peep: "it's not just length that needs fixing"
Well how would you feel if you took a week to write a 10,000 word show and someone gave you a comment like that, You keep saying that if I'm happy writing that's all that matters then if I'm happy writing why do I need to improve my show to fit you guys' standards
I never said I didn't enjoy it but comment's like Peeps' make me want to quit
I object to the criticism because that's all I hear critcism, I don't ever hear any good things, I haven't even got a constructive response, the whole time the show's been posted,
Da Prophet
Mid-Card Championship Winner
I liked the type of blue you used Wrestlingfan. It gave the show a nice format, keep up the good work man. My eyes really liked the different colour then what we usually get.
And no I don't think Peep is a prick. Good writer, nice person.
And no I don't think Peep is a prick. Good writer, nice person.
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
If that's sarcasm, then you can cut it out
But I'll stop overreacting given that if I want to improve in my BT I'll need every viewer I can get, especially if it's from vets like you and GCB.
Da Prophet
Mid-Card Championship Winner
I think you may get it. Thank god.
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
But if you guys want to help me improve, I'm going to need some serious help, BT looks easy now but I fear it will get harder.
I have written long shows that have received criticism. We all have. Don't take it personally, it is constructive criticism in your thread. OK, Peep's comment was a little unfair but he did it in the BT Lounge, out of the way. The comment is already two pages back. Not many will read it.
EDIT: Well, actually, they will now you've made a huge issue out of it but ...
Mate, if you want to keep writing your BT as you are doing now, go ahead and do so. If you're happy with it, do it. But, like I said before, 99.9% of people want feedback from us. Now we know that you obviously don't value our comments. Fine. I won't comment on it. Neither will others at this rate. But you won't improve without feedback and you won't enjoy it as muchif you don't know what other people think.
Well, if you get upset over a little criticism, I reckon you probably should think about quitting. It's clearly not working for you. Maybe you should try another forum? I know of one where you can post your shows and you very rarely get any feedback. PM me for the name of it.
You're new. You're going to get CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, that's how it works. It helps you get better - IF YOU WANT. I posted a good thing not five minutes ago when I said you improved. If you want people to tell you it is perfect, you're in the wrong place.
I fear you may have a problem in that you seem to have alienated the 'vets' already. No offence mate but you're not getting no more feedback from me. Sorry. I've already been through puberty myself, I'm not helping you through it.
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
GCB, I appreciate your critcism, Hell you're the reason I even chose to do 5000 word shows, And I would hate to have you not give me anymore feedback, I don't want people to tell me I'm perfect, but I wouldn't like people to just insult the BT in itself like Peep did.
People tried to give you feedback and you kicked up a fuss.
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
I kicked up a fuss because instead of actually giving me feedback it was usually in an insulting way,
No it wasn't. Peep did it once. Get over it. Every other bit of feedback you've had in the Lounge and on your thread has been done in a fair way.
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
Okay you got me there, I'll admit that I'm wrong in this case, and that I'm probably just a bit impatient.
Whoaaa. The Lounge seems busy. Finally! Good to see you all on!
We're all bullying wrestlingfan because he hasn't done a 15000 word show.
Grandsword repped me earlier about images. I suggested that he contacted you or Theo about making him some if you want to PM him or something?
Correct.
Comments like this won't help your cause either.
wrestlingfan
Championship Contender
We're all bullying wrestlingfan because he hasn't done a 15000 word show.
Grandsword repped me earlier about images. I suggested that he contacted you or Theo about making him some if you want to PM him or something?
GCB, I'm asking for you to not stop giving me feedback, I'll try to be less defensive, But I need you, You helped me get to where I am now and I will need you to get further.
