I'll take a shot at this. And by this, I mean EVERYTHING that has been mentioned in this typical WWE vs. TNA thread. We've never had one of those, have we?
1) I find it amusing the difference in how the companies deal with the other. TNA has tried at every turn to poke fun at WWE and never show it respect. From shots at their environment, to Tazz's idle comments, to Bischoff taking to twitter, everything TNA does in reference to WWE is negative. It seems the strategy here is that elevating your own product is hard, so it's better to attack the other and hope people buy it and it lowers the other product to your level.
On the other hand, WWE mostly ignores TNA, but when they do refer to it, it's off camera and it is usually positive. People from Chris Jericho to Randy Orton (so heels and faces on screen) have said they watch TNA and even speak positively of it. Now either they are trying to encourage the young company to become competition, or they are saying it because they have friends there and want to be nice. It's entirely possible that these men are saying what they feel and not what the company is telling them to feel. Either way, they are taking a very positive approach, while TNA has gotten more negative towards their opponent than any politician.
2) I think Evolution has spoiled people. A lot. Apparently, stables are now supposed to create main eventers out of every performer in the stable. I don't remember that being the case, ever. Let's just look a few examples.
a) Nation of Domination - Originally created as a stable built around Farooq, it eventually became about The Rock. The rest of the group was merely fodder to get Rock over, though a successful tag team emerged in D'Lo Brown and Mark Henry. Neither man rose above the midcard while Kama Mustafa was repackaged after the group as The Godfather. Owen Hart came in late, but joined more to continue his feud with DX than anything else. Which brings me to......
b)The Hart Foundation - Perhaps one of the most successful group, it was created to make Bret Hart a top heel. It did, while brother Owen, British Bulldog, Jim Neidhart, and Brian Pillman basically did his bidding. The group's goals were centered around Bret while his family helped him out. Again, the other guys were fine midcarders, but one man was the main event star.
c) DX (Face version) - While face stables probably shouldn't be included, this sort of fits. The group reeked havoc, but the star was Triple H. While he could not achieve stardom as a babyface, his turn from the group led him down a 6 month path to the WWF title. The rest? Tag champs, Light heavyweight guys, and a couple of IC champs (including a woman). No one became a main eventer. Yes, they tried with Billy Gunn, but to say that didn't go well was an understatement.
I'd go on, but I don't need to. The point is made. Stables are usually built around an individual and the rest of the guys get elevated to relevance as a result. Where would D'Lo Brown and Mark Henry be without the Nation? Well, in terms of Nexus, the stable was built for Wade Barrett. Barrett would have had a title shot without the group, but the inclusion of the group has solidified him as a top heel. His work as leader has parlayed any questions of needing a "higher power" to make the group work. HE makes the group work. The rest might go on to be midcarders and they might not, but regardless of whether Justin Gabriel or David Otunga become champions, the group did its job to elevate Barrett.
3) Comparisons were made between Immortal and Nexus. These groups are nothing alike and should not be compared. With that said, that doesn't mean TNA marks can disregard Nexus simply because they are rookies. If you watch closely, the thing that has really made Nexus work is the continuity of the group. The shirts and armbands obviously started it, but the V walk they do usually in step with one another like a marching band shows that they work hard to make the group concept work. These guys are working their way past being rookies quite quickly, and by association with the group, have worked with the top stars in the WWE. That's quite the experience and will serve them well in the long run.
As for Immortal, obviously the names are bigger. Well, at least some. With that said, the roles within the group take away from it for me. Take for instance A.J. Styles. This man was the champion 6 months ago. Now, he's midcard fodder, feuding with EV2.0 and having matches with Dreamer and Stevie Richards. This is the guy who was PWI wrestler of the year. Good to see he's getting the respect he deserves. Now, I know I'll probably get heat for that comment, but if AJ is as good as people say he is, shouldn't he be mad that Flair made him a champion and now the same Ric Flair supports Jeff Hardy as champ? That part never made sense to me.
Here's the thing. I liked Fortune a lot and I still do. The four horseman feel to it is great and I had hoped that the guy to leave, turn face and rise to the main event was Robert Roode. It won't happen now, as the group merged with Immortal so that Fortune don't run anything. They are errand boys. Fortune are the Otungas and Harris' if you will. Or, if you want to go old school, the Acolytes, Big Bossman, and the Mean Street Posse of the Corporate Ministry. Whether or not these pieces to the puzzle are better as individuals is kind of irrelevant because the big picture isn't about them. Actually, in this case, the big picture isn't even about the champion. It's about Bischoff and Hogan and running the company as bad guys instead of good guys and without Dixie Carter.
4) Bischoff is definitely just trying to press buttons. He has said positive things about Vince and the WWE in the past, but he's now a "bad guy" on TV and TNA's policy is to live your gimmick so there you go. I am on record as not supporting this and I stand by that. This guy is trying to ruffle feathers and he did. Mission accomplished. He hasn't ruffled mine, and I am probably the king of the Bischoff haters. Why? I stopped taking Bischoff seriously years ago. He takes himself too seriously and puts himself up on a pedestal where he doesn't belong. Now, he's worked in wrestling for a long time so he should know something, especially having worked for himself and then for the man that beat him, but I do think there are things he still doesn't get. That's ok, just don't give him the attention he so craves.
Again I say this, and I stand by it and hope that some of you start to listen. STOP COMPARING THE COMPANIES. Not everything is about WWE vs. TNA. Not only that. there's no rule that says that if you prefer one over the other that you have to hate the other. If you like TNA, you can still respect WWE and vice versa. Stop these silly arguments. This one started because Eric Bischoff said something stupid to ruffle feathers. It's like the annoying kid in high school. Ignore him and he'll go away. Right now, everyone is feeding it. Not a good idea.
I didnt say Immortal has better wrestlers- I said they had bigger NAMES! But who doesnt over a group of rookies?? Also: I guess I should have explained the NWO compairison a bit better. Immortal is a piss poor excuse for the NWO. It wasnt a take-over because HH & EB were already in control of TNA! Dixie had already given them control in January, no??? But I guess they needed that in paper, right? HAHA!!
well that and the prospects of Cena's likely turning heel