Big Show's contract??!!!
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Hard Hit Prince
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If you paid close attention, you should have known that Booker T got rid of the "iron-clad" part when Show was feuding with Del Rio earlier this year. You can all close this thread now.
lil bitch Kid
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Yeah, hate to break it to you, but I don't remember either of these two things:
1) Booker getting rid of it
2) the Last time the E followed through on anything like this.
HOWEVER, I would love to see them come back to the iron clad contract angle and have Big Show turn heel and explain that he could have saved Bryan all those times because of it, but he chose not to. But alas, see number 2 above....
1) Booker getting rid of it
2) the Last time the E followed through on anything like this.
HOWEVER, I would love to see them come back to the iron clad contract angle and have Big Show turn heel and explain that he could have saved Bryan all those times because of it, but he chose not to. But alas, see number 2 above....
Spidey Revivey
Porn is okay here long as it ain't dudes.
Are we really worried about continuity this far into the game? How many angles have been dropped on the spot in favor of something else?
Seriously, even if Booker T didn't put a halt to the "iron-clad" contract of The Big Show, the likelihood of Show or anyone else bringing it up are pretty slim.
Seriously, even if Booker T didn't put a halt to the "iron-clad" contract of The Big Show, the likelihood of Show or anyone else bringing it up are pretty slim.
Big Show talked about his iron clad contract during the interview after Summerslam which he "got into trouble" for.
To the OP, Big Show did not help Daniel Bryan out because even though he wouldn't get fired, he would be put through hell by Triple H as shown when he faced all members of The Shield in a handicap match.
Well, I can't remember how he got that contract, and I can't remember the fact that Booker T got rid of it 
man my memory is messed up 
But really it would bring a nice twist to the story, even if used for just one night. Say Big Show attacks the Shield or Orton, then justify his actions by his iron-clad contract. Then HHH would put him through hell that night and just add to his dictator character by adjusting Show's contract so he's the least paid among the entire roster and, well, remove the "iron-clad" part.
man my memory is messed up But really it would bring a nice twist to the story, even if used for just one night. Say Big Show attacks the Shield or Orton, then justify his actions by his iron-clad contract. Then HHH would put him through hell that night and just add to his dictator character by adjusting Show's contract so he's the least paid among the entire roster and, well, remove the "iron-clad" part.
Yup, the ironclad contract is still in effect. However, we do not know the specific terms of the ironclad contract.
martymcfly
Getting Noticed By Management
Yes, I wondered about this one too. I assumed that either we were supposed to forget about it, or as another poster said, while his contract is "iron clad" his life could still be made miserable by HHH.
Still, the whole "iron clad" thing is still relatively recent so it would have been nice for it at least to be mentioned and explained in this situation.
And like others, I never heard of booker T getting rid of it. Not that logic needs to be the reigning force in WWE storylines, but even if that is what happened, that is pretty weak. It would not make any sense that a manager of one show would have that sort of legal power, and if he did, seems like the exact opposite of "iron clad."
And as long as we're on the topic, I guess I don't see why big show is in tears over all of this. Yes, it sucks and is unfair, but group beatdowns are hardly unusual in WWE. Considering how many times it has happened in the past and how many times he has been a participant in similar situations, his performance on smackdown seemed a little hammy...
Still, the whole "iron clad" thing is still relatively recent so it would have been nice for it at least to be mentioned and explained in this situation.
And like others, I never heard of booker T getting rid of it. Not that logic needs to be the reigning force in WWE storylines, but even if that is what happened, that is pretty weak. It would not make any sense that a manager of one show would have that sort of legal power, and if he did, seems like the exact opposite of "iron clad."
And as long as we're on the topic, I guess I don't see why big show is in tears over all of this. Yes, it sucks and is unfair, but group beatdowns are hardly unusual in WWE. Considering how many times it has happened in the past and how many times he has been a participant in similar situations, his performance on smackdown seemed a little hammy...
samhunt391
Dark Match Winner
If he were to do anything out of line Cole and JBL said he would just get sent home for the remainder of his contract.
Kevin Nash sent a text message to himself to set up the post match attack on CM Punk (and somehow everything got worse after that) at Summerslam 2011. Hornswoggle was revealed as the Anonymous Raw GM. Mark Henry beat Ryback at Wrestlemania, but Henry had to beat Cena in order to earn his shot at the WWE Championship. Meanwhile, Ryback was awarded the WWE Championship match out of the blue. And if I remember correctly, Jerry Lawler said he "never" saw anyone kick out of the Tombstone before after CM Punk did it at Wrestlemania this year. 
Bottom line, I wouldn't waste too much time trying to decipher the logic or continuity in any pro wrestling storylines. For all we know, Triple H could "fire" Big Show if he feels like it, and I'm sure WWE wouldn't mention the ironclad contract, if it happened.
Bottom line, I wouldn't waste too much time trying to decipher the logic or continuity in any pro wrestling storylines. For all we know, Triple H could "fire" Big Show if he feels like it, and I'm sure WWE wouldn't mention the ironclad contract, if it happened.
lil bitch Kid
Getting Noticed By Management
WahWahWAAAAHHHH.... I guess not champ!!
Now, as impressive as it was that they mentioned it tonight, the only way I'll be happy is if Show turns heel and uses that as his explanation. With Henry getting hurt, it's unknown whether he'll be ready for NoC, sothis might be the way to go.
Kevin Nash sent a text message to himself to set up the post match attack on CM Punk (and somehow everything got worse after that) at Summerslam 2011. Hornswoggle was revealed as the Anonymous Raw GM. Mark Henry beat Ryback at Wrestlemania, but Henry had to beat Cena in order to earn his shot at the WWE Championship. Meanwhile, Ryback was awarded the WWE Championship match out of the blue. And if I remember correctly, Jerry Lawler said he "never" saw anyone kick out of the Tombstone before after CM Punk did it at Wrestlemania this year.
Bottom line, I wouldn't waste too much time trying to decipher the logic or continuity in any pro wrestling storylines. For all we know, Triple H could "fire" Big Show if he feels like it, and I'm sure WWE wouldn't mention the ironclad contract, if it happened.
What do ANY of those have to do with continuity or logic? They explained the Kevin Nash stuff perfectly fine, and it was consistent from beginning to end. Hornswaggle fit as the Anonymous GM. Mark Henry hadn't accomplished anything of note other than his win over Ryback, so why wouldn't he have to earn his title match? And Ryback being screwed over in all of his title matches is pretty well known. And even if Jerry Lawler did say that, how exactly is that WWE's fault?
Bottom line, I hope you watched Triple H and Stephanie debunk all this "ironclad contract" nonsense tonight. Aside from the fact that they could still make his life a living hell if he disobeyed them, without firing him, and aside from the fact thst Booker T said months ago thst Big Show still had to perform to earn his contract(no, he didn't "throw it out") and aside from the fact that JBL and Cole already explained it last week, now Triple H and Stephanie have explained that BigShow still needs to perform his contractual duties. Besides, even if not for all that, do you really think WWE's lawyers couldn't find a loophole in a contract negotiated by Johnny Freakin Laurinaitis and the Big Sow? Come on.
Umm, you guess not what, exactly? Go read the recap of the April 14th episode of Smackdown!, son. Booker T said he would take Big Show and his "iron clad" contract to court if he didn't perform.
And having Big Show turn heel would throw a pretty big wrench into their obvious plans of him being one of the key figures in the war against Triple H, so why would they turn him back heel? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, now does it?
lil bitch Kid
Getting Noticed By Management
Ok, so I'll take 10 seconds from my life, 10 second I won't get back, I might add, and respond to someone who hasn't quite figured out how the big boy pants work yet. Sure, maybe Booker said that, but what the poster claimed was that Booker threw the contract out. Did Show perform? Did they do a court angle? As for Show turning, I assume that you claiming to know 'their obvious plans' means that you see yourself as an insider. Why don't we go ahead and just call you Vince, since you think you have the inside track on what will and will not happen, right, Vince? It actually makes more sense for them to turn Show heel and stick someone else in to fight against HHH given where the angle went tonight. Now, Vince, go back to shopping in the kids' section and let the adults talk.
chicagokmc
Getting Noticed By Management
As we saw tonite and in the last few weeks the contract is as "iron clad" as a storyline needs it to be. When it was face management and Show was heel the contract allowed him to do almost whatever he wants. Now that Show is face and mcmahons/HHH are heel the contract has holes, I.e. it can be bought out and that he has to perform.
An ironclad contract doesn't mean that an employee can do whatever he wants. It might be favourable to the employee, well-structured, rigid and inflexible so as to offer protection but it doesn't give you free reign and it doesn't mean that the employee can willfully ignore his part of the obligations set out in the contract.
Anyway, they've explained it now as Big Show being kayfabe broke. Even if they fired him he wouldn't have the money to go up against WWEs legal team.
Anyway, they've explained it now as Big Show being kayfabe broke. Even if they fired him he wouldn't have the money to go up against WWEs legal team.
Actually that is exactly how it was presented when Big Show got the contract. John Laurenitis signed him to the contract and Big Show started talking about how he could do whatever he wanted because he could not be fired. That was a major part of the contract which is why it was a big deal.
HHH mentioned it last night, as saying big show couldnt get fired.
however you gotta realize hhh ain't gonna obey a contract that was not written by him, lauranatis made it, and the same guy gave lesnar the top star spot. but 1 week later raw was no longer starring lesnar. so wwe isnt to ever be tooken seriously with their storylines.
however you gotta realize hhh ain't gonna obey a contract that was not written by him, lauranatis made it, and the same guy gave lesnar the top star spot. but 1 week later raw was no longer starring lesnar. so wwe isnt to ever be tooken seriously with their storylines.
Yes you're absolutely right, I went back and read the results of those shows again to check and realized that he'd explicitly said that he couldn't be fired. Sorry, my mistake on that one.
Anyway, the term iron-clad is a more colloquial term in the real world and you can still be in breach of them. I'd guess that even in a real sport if somebody has an ironclad contract but refused to compete that they'd be in breach of it. There's a load of ways they can explain and rationalize it, from something as simple as them finding or a loophole or a clause that says they can get rid of him.
