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Benjamin and the world title....

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Ok, I'm tired of people saying that he deserves a world title because of his athleticism. I think if they were to put the world title on him, it should be after 10 or so years. Not saying anything bad about him, but look at the huge title wins. The most memorable ones are the ones with people who waited forever (Eddie, Benoit, Rey, etc.). Just imagine Benjamin finally winning the big one at WM 30 or something. Or Kendrick. So what are your thoughts?
 
Will Benjamin still be bland in ten years?

I mean he worked past the spot-monkey thing, that's for sure. But he still lacks the quality that makes me see dollar signs.
 
Benjamin is always an enigmar when it comes to what he lacks, some say its mic skills, others say its main event quality matches, I say he has both, the guy is just as credible as morrison and even more so then Mysterio, he needs to be put in that spotlight and i guarantee you that benjamin will shine, Its not the fact that he doesnt have the IT factor, its the fact that creative need to start booking him in some main event level feuds and i hope with his time on Smackdown with edge and Jericho will help him excel
 
benjamin is amazin at wut he duz and while people call him and jeff spot monkeys i think thats wut draws and it gives them the spotlight wen they do those things... anyway benjamin needs to midcard 4 a few more years b4 he becomes champ...slap the ECW on him and have him feud with the other champs similar to booker cena and show a wile bak... that should boost sum credibiliy he has...
 
How can you say Morrison is more athletic than Shelton Benjamin? Have you seen some of the shit he's done in the MITB matches? Tell me one person other than Taz or Kurt Angle who can do a better belly-to-belly of the top rope. His style is similar to their's, more so to Angle's (due to the amateur background), and he out-wrestle anyone on the roster. If WWE is trying to go for a more "realistic" approach with knockout punches and what not, why not give the title to a REAL wrestler.
 
WWE is driven on entertaining people and there are so many more entertaining wrestlers than Shelton Benjamin, that's why he doesn't have it.

The only time Benjamin is entertaining is in the Money In The Bank matches and on the very rare occasion he will have a few good matches during the year but it's not enough to warrant him a World Championship. All he will be for the rest of his career is mid card.

He has had chance after chance to shine from pinning Triple H on RAW, being in that Gold Rush match with Shawn Michaels, he's been in like 4/5 Money In The Bank Ladder matches I think? If he's been in that many and hasn't won it, he never will.

I'm far from a fan of Benjamin and I really don't want to see him as World Champion.
 
morrison is much more athletic so no i disagree with maximumdj.
BU T to answer the question.. Benjamin is good. Maybe next year

Oh wow man. a belly to belly off the top? I can play that game. Can benjamin hit a shooting star press? how bout get acrowd reaction? Oh how about cut a promo? Benjamin is good but he just isnt joe moe.
 
To me it seems like WWE is trying so damn hard to find the next Kurt Angle by looking for guys with amateur wrestling backgrounds. In the beginning we had Lesnar, Lashley, and Shelton. Now we've got Jack Swagger and I'm sure he won't be the last. Anyone sense a bit of regret from Vince after letting Kurt go to TNA? Shelton is not WHC or WWE champ quality. And for those of you who are saying that being on Smackdown with Jericho and Edge will help him. How long has he been on Smackdown? How much improvement has he shown since breaking off from Haas? He's lazy and unappreciative of his god given athletic talent. He's settling for mediocre when he's capable of greatness. No, Shelton Benjamin will not and should not ever win a major title because he doesn't deserve it. When he gets the chip off his shoulder and realizes that he's got plenty of room for improvement both in the ring and on the mic, then maybe. And that's a huge maybe, because the way I hear it he's content with riding the mid card and making lesser pay to do lesser work. Laziness does not breed memorable champions, sorry Gold Standard and all your smark ass sheep followers. Not in this lifetime, at least I hope not.
 
I dont see Shelton becoming a world champ anytime in the near future with CHARLIE HASS back on smackdown i think they might reform THE WORLDS GREATEST TAG TEAM bringing them back together. why else would they have moved Charlie back to samckdown instead of ECW were he belongs
 
shelton's best chance to be thrust into the main event scene and to have a title came with his matches with triple h...my top 3 memorable moments of shelton are him running up the MITB ladder, the super kick he took from hbk, and him telling triple h how close he was to beating him. They should have worked off of that and finally gave him the win and the title if they wanted to go with the momentum. They probably should have, much less deserving ppl have been given title runs in wwe and definitely in wrestling in general, i don't see him ever getting that kind of momentum again though. Shame too bc i think he had a ton of potential, his matches are great to watch.
 
I'm a big fan of Shelton Benjamin. But as far as him winning the World Championship goes. It may not be 'til he's almost in his '40's like Benoit and Eddie Guerrero.

He may be one of those guys who busts his ass for years and years before finally winning the big one.

Personally, I think all the knocks on him are overrated. If he was that boring, and the crowd didn't react to him, he wouldn't be as successful as he is.

Yeah, I think Shelton deserves at least a shot at the world title.
 
well i do belive benjamin one day will be a word champion but now is not the time, there are much better mid-carders ready for main event like morrison/bourn/truth/swagger/kennedy/christian, but like people have siad before i see him winning the title only once like eddie.

and to TheLoneWolf anyone can do a belly to belly of the top rope lol, it doesent take that much skill, but not every can do corkscrew backflips and running shooting star presses :)
 
There's nothing marketable about Shelton Benjamin. That's why he'll never be champion. He's solid in the ring, and has improved tremendously over the year. But he doesn't have it, he's too bland and has horrible mic skills. Gets little to no reaction most of the time as well. Not the type of guy that is going to be able to sell feuds to draw buys for PPV's.

Career midcarder. But he could be an even better career midcarder if they turned him face and let him draw reaction from his athleticism like he did back in 04-05.
 
hes been with the wwe since 2000 nd made his debute in 2002. its been almost 10yrs. wm 30 is to long i hope he is world champion by wm 27
 
Shelton Benjamin has been hyped as much as anyone on this entire forum. Benjamin has showed moments of him being a top draw and being someone who could carry a title for about a year or so. That time as passed. His feud with HHH was short lived because he simply wasn't passionate about the business. Most of the news I've read about Benjamin was about him not wanting to work as hard to get to where everyone else is at, and he drew some heat from Taker, JBL and HHH backstage for it. Same with Carlito. Had the Intercontinental title, showed flashes of being a star, but was content with being mid-card and now, a Tag Title holder with his brother.

Benjamin will eventually win the IC title again or possibly be involved with someone like Kane or Morrison. As far as the World Title? If he wants to elevate his game, he can get there, it's just a matter of him wanting to work extra hard to get there.
 
benjamin is amazin at wut he duz and while people call him and jeff spot monkeys i think thats wut draws and it gives them the spotlight wen they do those things... anyway benjamin needs to midcard 4 a few more years b4 he becomes champ...slap the ECW on him and have him feud with the other champs similar to booker cena and show a wile bak... that should boost sum credibiliy he has...

Shelton is most definitely NOT a spot monkey. He's one of the most technically sound wrestlers in the history of the business. We've all seen his matches against Angle, Benoit, & the MOTY candidate against HBK on Raw. The fact that he can also hit those big jaw dropping spots make him that much better! I say, put Ric Flair in his corner & let him Role!
 
I say, put Ric Flair in his corner & let him Role!

What?! Putting a cornbread white guy in the corner of a black man? You serious? I, for one, would LOVE to see this, but you have to think about how this would go over for the average wrestling fan.

It would go over about as well as Mae Young v/s Baston Booger in a Pie Eating Contest.

Now, I may get heat for assuming most wrestling fans are racist, but face facts. This would not go over too well. Out of all the wrestlers Ric Flair could endorse, managing Shelton Benjamin would feel like a huge dump being taken on their faces.
 
What?! Putting a cornbread white guy in the corner of a black man? You serious? I, for one, would LOVE to see this, but you have to think about how this would go over for the average wrestling fan.

It would go over about as well as Mae Young v/s Baston Booger in a Pie Eating Contest.

Now, I may get heat for assuming most wrestling fans are racist, but face facts. This would not go over too well. Out of all the wrestlers Ric Flair could endorse, managing Shelton Benjamin would feel like a huge dump being taken on their faces.

Mat Stryker managed Big Daddy V.
 
morrison is much more athletic so no i disagree with maximumdj.
BU T to answer the question.. Benjamin is good. Maybe next year

Oh wow man. a belly to belly off the top? I can play that game. Can benjamin hit a shooting star press? how bout get acrowd reaction? Oh how about cut a promo? Benjamin is good but he just isnt joe moe.

Ok do you guys know what athletic means? lol. It has little to do with belly to bellies and nothing to do with crowd reaction or cutting promos. i don't know if shelton can hit a SSP but i don't have proof that morrison can either. that shit that he did in the lumberjack match looked cool but it wasn't a SSP. SSP involves a slow rotation. Morrison tucked his legs which makes flipping easier and he did it to the outside of the ring which gave him more time before he hit his target. Even though i think both of them CAN do it. But Shelton is way more athletic than morrison. i've never seen morrison jump from the mat to the top turnbuckle. or jump from the mat to the ropes(in the middle not turnbuckle)and be able to stay there long enough to jump off.
 
i dont see shelton as a wwe champion but i do see him as a tna champion see shelton should go to tna hey if christain can become tna champ so can he but for right now i see angle vs lashley for the tna title at bound for glory
 
morrison is much more athletic so no i disagree with maximumdj.
BU T to answer the question.. Benjamin is good. Maybe next year

Oh wow man. a belly to belly off the top? I can play that game. Can benjamin hit a shooting star press? how bout get acrowd reaction? Oh how about cut a promo? Benjamin is good but he just isnt joe moe.


A belly-to-belly is actually a tougher move than you might think. And I can gaurantee benjamin can do a shooting star press, but since he's considerably bigger than morrison, the wwe won't allow him to do it. Morrison's had some great spots, but SBen has had even greater spots. Can morrison pull off better matches than Benjamin? Yea, most of the time people would say he does. But that makes him a better pro wrestler, NOT a better athlete.

Athleticism? Morrison was never an all american wrestler, and he was never an all american track star either. So now who's more ATHLETIC?
 
shelton totally deserves a title. as long as they write him into feuds with talented wrestlers, he will shine. besides, batista has no mic or promo skills and he made a good champion
 
Batista is short and sweet on the mic, has crowd support and interest, and is probably a better pro-wrestler than Shelton.

Have Benjamin stand on his own merit. This comparison crap doesn't make anyone worthy of a world title.
 
Ok, I'm tired of people saying that he deserves a world title because of his athleticism. I think if they were to put the world title on him, it should be after 10 or so years. Not saying anything bad about him, but look at the huge title wins. The most memorable ones are the ones with people who waited forever (Eddie, Benoit, Rey, etc.). Just imagine Benjamin finally winning the big one at WM 30 or something. Or Kendrick. So what are your thoughts?


i agree with you completely plus he has no charisma his ability is great in the ring but his mic skills are lackluster, the crownd can care lessabout him unless hes doing massive flips and stuff at wrestlemania, he doesnt deserve the title he should be a steady midcarder thats were hes belongs
 

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