Batista- some questions about his past, his present, & his future

[BOSS Productions]

I barely post anything that isn't about Brock Lesnar or 2003 but I thought of this thread idea and decided to make it.

Batista , The Animal, The Beast, whatever you call him was on top of his game during 2005 but ever since then has been becoming stale , so the WWE decided to to turn him heel and yet all I seen him doing lately is losing to Rey Mysterio , then attack any random FACE.

I am probably one of the only Batista fans on this forum and well I decided to ask this question what exactly was Batista meant to be in the WWE ? My friend was a huge Brock Lesnar mark but when Lesnar left , Batista became his favorite wrestler and at the time I actually thought Batista was going to become the new face of the company but instead went to SmackDown , which was still great he was the top face that year without any doubt but aside from all that . 5 years later, what exactly has Batista become or accomplished ? At one point people thought he was the "Next Big Thing" but then becomes a stale face and then turns into an awkward heel.

Now to simplify this thread , I will just narrow down the questions I want to be answered.

Is Batista Overrated or Underrated ?

Why wasn't Batista put in Cena's place in 2005, where he was clearly the bigger face?

Ever since 2005, why has Batista been known as a "stale loser" (gimmick in the ring ) ?

Did Batista leave his mark in history or was 2005 just a lucky year for him?

Was Kurt Angle right about Batista being nothing more than muscle?

Whats next for Batista?

and is there nothing more for Batista in the present WWE?

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Is Batista Overrated or Underrated ?

I don't think Batista can be considered overrated. WWE has never really presented him to us a great wrestler or legendary champion. I think Batista's is just about average. I also don't think he's as horrible as some people make him out to be.

Why wasn't Batista put in Cena's place in 2005, where he was clearly the bigger face?

True Batista was on the B show after his feud with The Game ended, but he still was dominant, and clearly the #2 face in the company. Cena is the future of the WWE, while Batista on the other hand will probably retire in the next 2 or 3 years. Vince most likely wanted to get all he could of Batista before his age caught up with him, that would explain why he got pushed so quickly.

Ever since 2005, why has Batista been known as a "stale loser"?

Stale loser? Are you talking kayfabe or real life here....I'm not sure?

Did Batista leave his mark in history or was 2005 just a lucky year for him?

I don't think 2005 was a lucky year for him. When he decided to challenge Triple H for the World Heavyweight Championship at Wrestlemania, it was a huge moment for him. The crowd went nuts when he took out Ric Flair, and powerbomed HHH through the table. He also went on to have a pretty damn good feud with HHH. I wouldn't say he left his mark in history also,but not everyone does.

Was Kurt Angle right about Batista being nothing more than muscle?

Again, I think Batista is pretty average when it comes to wrestling. As far as being muscle goes, there have been other world champions in wrestling history that have gotten world titles or "the push" just because of their look.

Whats next for Batista?

Probably a couple of more world title reigns, and more main event pushes. Vince will try to get all he can out of him before Batista breaks down.

and is there nothing more for Batista in the present WWE?

I wouldn't be surprised if he was going for the world title at Mania 26 or goes in as the World Heavyweight Champion. He will probably have more feuds with Taker and Rey. I also think WWE will go back to Cena/Batista some where down the line, since they had one match that was built up in huge way at Summerslam 2008.

As far as Batista being the next big thing, that was never going to happen, that role has been placed upon John Cena, and rightfully so. Cena is the future of WWE, while Batista is a guy who will never get that type of status because of his age. Batista caught on so quick with the fans because back in 2005, everyone wanted to see someone take down the mighty heel HHH. He showed a great level of rage and WWE fans fell in love with the Animal.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Is Batista Overrated or Underrated ?

I'd say neither. He was very over back in 05-06 and that reaction has died down quite a bit since then. Now he's still over enough to main event, but I don't think he's either awesome OR awful.

Why wasn't Batista put in Cena's place in 2005, where he was clearly the bigger face?

Batista wasn't put in Cena's place in 2005 because they probably knew Batista's reaction would be dying down at some point. Cena on the other hand, was going to be given a new mega-face character who would go on to become the face of the federation because they knew they could trust him as being one of the top guys. Plus Cena remained VERY over while Batista hasn't.

Ever since 2005, why has Batista been known as a "stale loser" (gimmick in the ring ) ?

I'm not entirely sure what this question is even asking, I'll skip it.

Did Batista leave his mark in history or was 2005 just a lucky year for him?

2005 was a lucky year for him, absolutely. He was in the right place at the right time. Batista would never have gotten THAT over without Evolution. He would be probably about similar to what Morgan is in TNA now.... a huge guy who's somewhat over but not winning world titles.

Was Kurt Angle right about Batista being nothing more than muscle?

Yes. Like I said to one of your other questions, without the Evolution storyline Batista would be just another huge guy. He's average in the ring and terrible on the mic. All he's got going for him is his impressive build.

Whats next for Batista?

He'll have a good showing in the Royal Rumble and then start his Wrestlemania feuds, most likely.

and is there nothing more for Batista in the present WWE?

No. His heel turn has done next to nothing for him. One more world title run and he'll probably be gone. That's my prediction because he's done all he can do in WWE by this point really.

 

[Tastycles]

Is Batista Overrated or Underrated ?

It's hard to say to be honest with you. He's shit, but I don't think that anyone says he's good, so I would say he is rated correctly to be honest with you.

Why wasn't Batista put in Cena's place in 2005, where he was clearly the bigger face?

Because John Cena is more marketable and better at wrestling, in short. Basically, Batista had a huge and obvious storyline going into 2005 thanks to the break up of Evolution. Cena had a goofy gimmick and was almost as popular with no proper all guns blazing push. They gave Batista 3 months on Raw, but then it became obvious that he wasn't the wave of the future and they went with Cena, not to mention the fact Cena is about 10 years younger.

Ever since 2005, why has Batista been known as a "stale loser" (gimmick in the ring ) ?

Don't really know what you are talking about.

Did Batista leave his mark in history or was 2005 just a lucky year for him?

Neither. He'll be one of the biggest names of his era forever, but he'll never be one of the biggest names of all time. Things might have been different if he debuted at 25, or even 30, but he is too old.

Was Kurt Angle right about Batista being nothing more than muscle?

Pretty much. There's no psychology in his matches, and there certainly isn't good execution. Added to the fact that he is terrible on the mic and you pretty much have the total package of what he doesn't have.

Whats next for Batista?

He'll probably have another title reign as a heel, turn face and retire at WrestleMania 27.

and is there nothing more for Batista in the present WWE?

Not really. He's not going to reach a higher plain, so it is basically a case of waiting until his body can't do it anymore. It's just adding figures to his repetoire now, and they'll probably let him have an Intercontinental reign so he can retire a Triple Crown champion, but that's it.

 

[Notorious718]

Is Batista Overrated or Underrated ?

I don't think he's overrated. It's not like he was presented as a huge icon or anything. After he turned on Evolution, he was very over with the crowd but like Dagger said earlier, that reaction has died down and he's right where he's supposed to be.

Why wasn't Batista put in Cena's place in 2005, where he was clearly the bigger face?

Because Cena had more in the tank left than Batista. Cena was someone that Vince McMahon could trust to carry the company for many years to come. In a few years, Batista can be retiring but I see Cena still going strong for around another ten years or so. It's all about longevity.

Ever since 2005, why has Batista been known as a "stale loser" (gimmick in the ring ) ?

Did Batista leave his mark in history or was 2005 just a lucky year for him?

It was said earlier, Batista was at the right place at the right time. He would've been nothing without Evolution in my view and wouldn't be where he is today. 2005 was most definately a lucky year for him.

Was Kurt Angle right about Batista being nothing more than muscle?

Batista isn't particularly horrible in the ring. He's not good but he can most definately be a helluva lot worse. But for the most part, he is just a big guy with a ton of muscle. Many have said that Vince McMahon LOVES big, muscular wrestlers working in WWE and that's honestly all Batista has going for him as far as I'm concerned.

Whats next for Batista?

Only time will tell. I foresee one more World title reign before he retires. As for when that will happen, who knows?

and is there nothing more for Batista in the present WWE?

The only thing left for him to do now is to put over the younger talent. Help shape the future superstars of tomorrow. Maybe one more World title reign but nothing beyond that.