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Balor Club ideas?

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So during Raw this past Monday, the Balor Club formed with Gallows and Anderson joining Finn for a 3 on 3 match. Rumors report this might have not just been a one off match. So let's speculate that WWE has green lit for this to be a stable because we all know Gallows and Anderson as well as Finn need something going. I believe they'll plant seeds for Balor to feud with returning Miz and Club with Axel/Bo where the Balor Club are faces. I think for now that's okay but for this to really work, they have to turn heel eventually as them as babyfaces just don't interest me much. They need to have that old NWO/Bullet Club feel where they are heels but liked. When they attack they need to be ruthless. When's the last time a group kicked the commentators out for a match or so like NWO used to? That would be pretty sweet and change of pace like taking over segments and just wreaking havoc so much that some stars have to band together. They could also add another member(s) down the line and would be interesting with that "You're either with us or against us" attitude. Of course I wouldn't wanna see it balloon to what the NWO was later on and even the Bullet Club where there are too many members. I would have Gallows, Anderson, one other male like Elias or NXT callup, a female member (Bliss, Paige, heel Sasha, ?) all with Balor leading the way challenging Reigns after Reigns wins Universal Title at Mania. Then you eventually setup Ambrose return and Shield to take them on (which would've been a much better reason for Shield to reform if I might add). If they include a heel Sasha in group then set it up with her heel turn on Bayley. Then you'd have at least 2 interesting storylines and matches to create a couple PPVs around. Some ideas there, what do you guys think?
 
Not bad ideas.

I admit when I thought about it my concern was that Balor has such a fan-friendly and interactive entrance that it would be hard for him and The Club to be heels, which they need to be in order for this to really work, and still leave Balor's entrance pretty much as is.

So, being a 'cool' but ruthless heel faction is probably the way to go. I mean, good luck pointing out more than a few REAL top heels in WWE today who are ruthless and constantly booed. Even Samoa Joe gets pretty good pops some places and the inevitable Reigns vs Lesnar match will be mixed reaction but probably see Reigns be more booed even though, I'm sure, in Vince's mind he thinks it should be Reigns who is adored and Lesnar is who is booed. But, I digress.

Yes, a pretty major dominating heel faction would be a breath of fresh air in WWE if given a real chance.

I agree, they can start with the main 3 and have the "With us or against us" attitude and can offer to certain talent to join the club ... some will join and then they'll take them on, maybe keep them but if they disappoint them they will oust them from the group. And obviously some will refuse and make for interesting feuds.

They have to be careful, like you said, to grow the group's evolution and be a noticeable part of the show: taking over commentary; backstage attacks; manipulating or being rebellious to authority figures; being ruthless to achieve their goals - but also not get carried away with too many members.

Come up with a simple, but really great logo that can go on a t-shirt and let them "takeover" the show.

I like your idea of Sasha joining The Club as a heel and pretending to want Bayley to join the group and then turning on Bayley - a great way to potential get Bayley established as a more genuine babyface that fans want to root for - provided that Bayley's response is toughness and determination not to give in or give up.


It's been a LONNNNNNNNNNNNG time since WWE had a major faction be a major (and interesting) part of the show (with a great logo and t-shirts, I might add) ... Nexus was 2010 and so we are entering the 8th year without a major heel faction.

The Shield, one could argue, was a major heel faction because they were dominant and a pretty major part of the show, but it was only the 3 of them, and you know what, I'll accept that because at least they were made to be important ...

Unlike The Wyatt Family or more recently the Miztourage who had little sparks and momentum but ultimately were made to look weak and hardly led to memorable Championship runs. Funny enough, Wyatts won the big match against The Shield but it was The Shield that took off after that and we all know what happened to Wyatts after that. And Miz did hold the IC title but Miztourage never looked like anything more than the lowest of low lackeys and that definitely does not make them a major faction in any way.


So, yes, it's more than enough time for a new major heel faction and since The Shield members are still in WWE it can lead to some great major faction battles and matches.
 
I'd throw them together and then you have at least got a team for the New Day to face at Mania. That is if the Balor Club justify making the card.
 
As of right now, I'm not convinced that Balor, Anderson & Gallows are going to be of any greater relevance going forward than they already are. It's obvious that Vince has nothing whatsoever for Balor to do while Anderson & Gallows have been spinning their wheels for what feels like forever.

At this point, I'd be okay if Balor was part of the Cruiserweight Division as he's someone fans not only care about but can deliver. He doesn't deliver jaw dropping promos, but he does what he needs to do and we all know he's great in the ring so I think it's a big step up from Enzo. It's better than having him waste his time feuding with underlings like Bo Dallas and Curtis Axel week after week.

As for Anderson & Gallows, I'm just not all that impressed to be perfectly honest. I wasn't all that impressed when they first showed up and I haven't really seen anything out of them to change my opinion. They're okay, but I think they're a perfect example of how overly hyped some wrestlers are just because they made a name for themselves in New Japan. When stacked against New Day, the Usos, the Bar, Benjamin & Gable or Ambrose & Rollins, before Ambrose's injury, they just fall extremely short; it's probably only going to get worse if the Bludgeon Brothers really catch on, Harper & Rowan had some genuinely fantastic outings with the Usos several years back, or when the Authors of Pain hit the main roster.
 
They really need to reinvent themselves. Balor Club looks like the Bullet Club and in WWE, they look like a copy of the NWO. It won't work. You need to mix it up with the Demon King gimmick. Balor is a Demon King right? A King. A king needs his minions. Name them the Demon Club and have Balor be the King.

Why not add a demon queen? Asuka could work. It doesn't need to be over the top. Make it serious.

And yeah, a long feud with Reigns for the title which leads up to Demon Club vs Shield is a wonderful idea and will give us some good TV from April till Summerslam.

As for the female part? I really don't mind it. Finn will probably rally for Bayley, but it doesn't fit Bayley at all. Sasha, Paige or Alexa fit the Bullet Club vibe, while Nia, Asuka or Ember fit the more demonic side. So it really depends on the direction.

But making them the modern day NWO won't work. Give them the demomic vibe.
 
Before doing anything with them, they really do need to see if the fans takes to them or not because after last monday, it didn't feel like they did. So, test the water for a bit, see what works and what doesn't work with theses guy and then find something interesting to do with them.

The fact is that they we're thrown together last week because they weren't doing anything and they had 6 minutes to fill at the end of Raw, so they did a meaningless six man tag, which will probably lead to another six man tag again the miz and the miztourage. The windows of opportunity for hyping or doing something great with these three is already gone and the lackluster reaction to the reunion make me think that they don'T have any plans for these three outside of having them together without truly explaining the relationship they have.

I could throw a lot of ideas of what you could do with them but in the end, it would be meaningless since it's just another thrown together faction with 3 guys that are threading water.
 
Even if they keep them together on Raw as The Club/Balor Club I still don't see them taking a top spot on the roster and for sure don't see them being the top faction. Honestly this just seems like more filler for them to do because creative has nothing for them and they can lead into a Balor/Miz feud.

I hope I am wrong entirely but with Raw dominated by Strowman, Reigns, Joe, Lesnar, and even Rollins and The Bar they are still down at the lower end of the midcard. Plus with the way all 3 have been booked previously I can't see them being viewed as viable threats on RAW... however a jump to Smackdown could work as a perfect restarting point.

Smackdown they can feud with Orton (young guys taking over against grizzled veteran), Nakamura (building on history), AJ (Club turns heel on him), New Day, etc They can make an impact on the smaller SD roster and be placed as top heels/tweeners immediately. In my eyes thats the only way that it works to get them to become the top faction. Plus it keeps them away from the guys in The Shield to eventually lead to a 3 on 3 clash towards the end of next year....
 
They will fail to make anything remotely as cool as Bullet Club just to be straightforward. Whether it be the current 4th wall breaking silly incarnation lead by Kenny Omega, the original lead by Fergal, or the perfect blend of the two A.J. Styles. What made them so unique, to begin with, was that the general idea of the stable was taboo. On inception, they had already done something relatively unheard of and provided kind of a blurry window to both Japan and the United States pro-wrestling landscapes. It does benefit WWE that they've positioned Balor to be the leader of a group with ties, but a bit of a different group altogether rather than Styles or Omega. Finn Balor being a few years younger than Styles gives his some more time in the tank. Also, his in-ring style while inferior in physicality to both Omega's and Style's leaves him the ability to perform at a higher level than most for a bit longer in his career. Relying more on psychology than flash and moves never hurt any of the biggest names in the business for sure.

So let's go to dreamland and I will try to fantasy book this out a bit in my head to provide some kind of unique input or something satisfactory.

A big mistake NJPW has done with Bullet Club and why they are somewhat failing on their original platform (Partially cause Naito and his stable are super cool and over) is making Kenny Omega such a big deal. While it's hard to keep down such an enigmatic wild character and great wrestler it's ended up hurting the Bullet Club as a whole. They do shine on other platforms, but they've failed a bit at being unique and innovative which is what made them such a big deal, to begin with. Instead of producing new stars from the stable the current roster of Bullet Club members consists mainly of people who had already made it prior and are foreigners. (Marty, Cole, Cody, Hangman Page, etc.) Why this isn't exactly applicable to WWE the point really is that too much outside interference to distort the objective of the group completely dilutes the point.

So looking at Balor and all of his potential as a heel (great track record) it'd definitely be good to make them more serious with a hint of silliness or fun. How he smiled casually at Kurt Angle and then pointed back at Karl & Gallows to say "Nerds" was actually a somewhat shallow but good example. So we could literally continue this next RAW or have them pop up again a little bit down the road to Wrestlemania and work towards a formation or debut angle or whatever. Balor has a lot of personality despite a lot of people finding him rather boring as of late, but there is literally no way he can carry two guys with a really dry niche sense of humour and appeal to being entertaining.

So let's add one or two people and not go any further because when you hit a stable with over 5 or 6 people you really start to stray away from an objective. The objective is important, because without a cause or something to believe in pro-wrestling just does not work. It's what made The Shield flourish, and The Wyatts drown. I don't see them being a type of stable to wipe out literally everyone on the roster in some shocking debut or anything. I picture them helping out their friends in the stable, wanting to have fun and make money, and being heels even to other heels. Even the most shallow of objectives are objectives and work if they are dealt with. A good example is Braun Strowman and even Daniel Bryan.

So who is slick and disregards people. Elias. He has a unique gimmick and is an absolute heat magnet. His style isn't exactly dark, but it definitely strays far from the light and really enters those shades of grey that Balor and "The Club" dwells in. So that's a tag team, a leader, and your token underboss Bad Luck Fale type that glues the team together and can kind of do everything. Then we don't really need a female. It'd be cool to see something like that. Especially looking at Nikki Cross as kind of a really far out example of how you can incorporate a girl into a hyper-masculine / edgy stable. I'd honestly of thrown Paige in there as a legit female competitor, but not so much anymore. Asuka is a good choice I guess. Pretty shallow reasoning, but she'd probably fit what the general aesthetic that WWE would go with well. Being undefeated doesn't hurt either.

for the last guy, I'd just throw in a dude that you can use to basically destroy the faction from within or use as a multi-purpose tool to advance storylines to the greater good. Kind of like how Kenny was groomed over time to take over for Aj Styles. Not to break them up (although you know WWE LOVES to do that in recent years) only per say, but to have that *Seth Rollins turning on The Shield* trigger ready. It just comes in handy. Every Goku needs a Vegeta.


Note: Post is total mess. This does not accurately represent my functional brain.
 
The Balor Club will be Reigns's feud before and post Mania. I hope that they will have Balor vs Reigns for the IC title at the rumble. Then, they should have Samoa Joe interfere costing Reigns the match and alligning himself with The Balor Club (he is the last guy in the faction which are - Balor, Joe, Andesron and Gallows), Then after Mania they can have Balor vs Reigns in a Champion vs Champion Match down the road or have a Joe vs Reigns feud. At Summer Slam they can have built for a main event of The Shield vs The Balor Club - which will not include Joe since I would love him to have a different match on the show, keeping the factions in their originals formats. Then when the match is almost over do one of two things:
A. Dean Ambrose turns heel on The Shield allowing Balor to pin Rollins.
B. Samoa Joe turns face on The Balor Club by costing them the match.
 
Have Reigns drop the I-C Title to Samoa Joe at the Rumble. Have Lesnar do the run-in after a heated exchange prior the PPV where Reigns tells Lesnar he's coming for his gold soon to. Then you can start a Balor Club vs. Joe, Cesaro, & Sheamus feud. Have Sheamus/Cesaro re-capture the belts from Rollins & Jordan.

Wrestlemania
Lesnar (C) vs. Reigns
Samoa Joe (C) vs. Finn Balor (I-C Title)
Sheamus/Cesaro (C) vs. Anderson/Gallows (Tag Titles)
 
My ideal Balor Club stable would look like this:

Finn Balor (leader)
Gallows & Anderson (tag team)
Baron Corbin
Sasha Banks
 
If they are going to keep the Club together then I think it would be best if they turned heel and targeted the tag and IC titles. Roman should drop the IC title in the next few months if he's going to be in the Universal title picture at Mania and Balor is someone who could benefit from winning the championship. Jordan and Rollins are likely to be transitional tag champions so why not use them to put Gallows and Anderson over? I could see a Rollins vs Demon Fin Balor at Wrestlemania for the IC title as a way to get both on the card and give them somthing meaningful to do.
 
I love that the factions are coming back. I would love to see even more of them and I think there is a great way to do it. So we already have the shield, Balor club, miztourage, and upcoming insanity, undisputed era, how about taking AJ styles and Cesaro put them with repackaged fandango and tyler breeze, make them the jet flyin, Rolex wearing horseman with ric flair backing them. Or maybe matt hardy's broken army with a broken dolph ziggler, brother Nero, and broken big Cass. Have undertaker form group with aliester black, war machine. Put velveteen dream, apollo crews, Titus , mark Henry and remake nation of domination. I would also repackage the undisputed era and have Shawn Michaels and HHH name them Regeneration X. Or Rx. I think that wwe is loaded with talent, the goofy family entertainment era is hopefully coming to a head and writers can let the wrestlers tell the story in the ring without excessive promos and half hr interviews. I'm hoping new Japan keeps pushin WWE to get better product in ring.
 
It's been almost a month since these three got put together and I feel like this was all for nothing at this point. Gallows and Anderson should be dominated the tag division at this point and Finn should have less been In talk for a ic title reign right now. It feel like nothing as change and all three are just afterthought.

Gallows and Anderson are still stepping stone for other tag team and Finn is still a afterthought in the main event and has no direction.

What I would do to remedy this is have them turn complete heel after the elimination chamber ppv. Have them got a promo where they completely turn on the fans and just have them beat everybody up. Then give them the tag and if title and let them dominate raw until you switch them to smackdown.
 
I think the best thing for them would be a heel turn as well. Then put them in a feud against Woken Matt, Brother Nero and Wyatt. Seems like the best for all involved.
 

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