Anyone Else..

[Monkey_Mania]

Question their faith? Im severely close to forgetting about god altogether. Why does he let bad stuff happen? I believe that everything happens because of actions. Not for a reason. I guess Im just confused. I dont know. Does anyone else feel this way?

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Yeah...it's called the problem of evil (AKA theodicy). There's no way that an all-loving, all-powerful, and all-knowing God can exist with the existence of natural disasters and the pain and suffering people inflict on each other. It's just logically not possible.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

God damnit. You sound like my girlfriend.

 

[klunderbunker]

Sure it is. Monkey, I would say that it's to test your faith. The Bible has a ton of verses that talk about how despite what happens, God is still with you. Nothing in the Bible says life will be easy.

 

[SavageTaker]

I've felt this way before. Sometimes I have wondered if there's even a god. I have questioned different things in life and why he just lets them happen. But I never find an answer and probably never will.

You're not the only one who has questioned their faith. I have done it many times.

 

[Murfish]

I never really had faith, but I always figured that God doesn't want to coddle you. He put us here and let us do as we please. He gave a few heads up signs along the way, but has tried to stay out of it for the most part.

He wants you to prove yourself is how I see it. Just keep on living a pious life.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

God damnit. You sound like my girlfriend.

What I say in no way makes it necessary that a higher-power does not exist. You just have to drop one of the "all-s," and things are good to go.

 

[Murfish]

What I say in no way makes it necessary that a higher-power does not exist. You just have to drop one of the "all-s," and things are good to go.

Devil's Advocate Coming from an Athiest:

I don't think that's necessarily true. Part of the faith, Catholic at least, is accepting that God's scale and ways are beyond human comprehension. So maybe his love is that he wants to help us achieve our potential and not give us a perfect life. Or maybe our idea of love is inaccurate and doesn't well describe divine love.

 

[jmt225]

It's so hard to believe in the Bible when there are such ridiculous stories in there like Adam & Eve and motherfucking Noah's Ark.

When I was a kid and well into high school, I believed in it all and always had that fear of going to Hell. Part of me still has that fear, to be honest. But growing up… my mind just doesn’t allow me to believe such nonsense.

I still do believe in God though, and I do believe that Jesus was a great, great man. God's son? Maybe not, but I still admire him nonetheless. The Bible, however, is full of shit and I blame it solely for me ever questioning God's existence, because there are reasons why I would believe in a higher power if that book never existed. At least, I believe so...

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Devil's Advocate Coming from an Athiest:

I don't think that's necessarily true. Part of the faith, Catholic at least, is accepting that God's scale and ways are beyond human comprehension. So maybe his love is that he wants to help us achieve our potential and not give us a perfect life. Or maybe our idea of love is inaccurate and doesn't well describe divine love.

The pain and suffering we inflict on each other can be covered by this, but I don't see how tsunamis, hurricanes, and earthquakes can be.

 

[Murfish]

The bible is better taken as a guide book that contains a lot of metaphors and hypothetical examples. You shouldn't take it as fact, but as something that you can apply to your life.

The more modern approach to religion has backed away from scare tactics.

 

[Murfish]

The pain and suffering we inflict on each other can be covered by this, but I don't see how tsunamis, hurricanes, and earthquakes can be.

That's tough. I'll have to think about that.

 

[X]

While I'm very much against the majority of all organized religion on this planet (seeing as it's achieved nothing and is probably the number one cause of death in human history) I definately believe in some kind of higher power.

I think Trey Parker sums up my feelings on atheism perfectly

Regarding Atheism, Parker stated the following:[18]

"Basically ... out of all the ridiculous religion stories which are greatly, wonderfully ridiculous—the silliest one I've ever heard is, 'Yeah ... there's this big giant universe and it's expanding, it's all gonna collapse on itself and we're all just here just 'cause ... just 'cause'. That, to me, is the most ridiculous explanation ever."

While I firmly believe in secularism and am not by any means what you would consider a religious person, I still find it absolutely beyond absurd that the entire universe could just exist for absolutely no reason at all. Spock would agree with me, it's completely illogical.

 

[SavageTaker]

I too agree with you X.

 

[Murfish]

I don't see a need for a purpose in our existence, but don't trust my opinion...I'm a borderline nihilist.

 

[X]

I don't see a need for a purpose in our existence, but don't trust my opinion...I'm a borderline nihilist.

But I'm not talking about a purpose. I'm talking about the very fact that we exist. Existence itself. Where did it come from? Where did science come from? It's absurd to me that someone can think all matter and anti-matter and conciousness just up and started one day for no reason. Maybe there is no God, but there's something that is a higher power then us, that is atleast partly responsible for creation.

I mean, to just think something exists just because is in fact quite anti-scientific.

 

[48.7 is Approximately 49 Times Better Than You]

Have you ever read the book of Job, Monkey?

 

[48.7 is Approximately 49 Times Better Than You]

Wtf? That posted four times.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I will never lose my faith in atheism.

 

[X]

I will never lose my faith in atheism.

Elaborate on that shit.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Lol.