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an idea for Taker, WM23 through WM24 and retirement!

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We think of Undertaker as 1 of the best in the business, and he is... Great mic-work and promos, and for his age, is pretty good in the ring... Plus, he was lucky 2 get a good gimmick off the gimmick line b4 they ran out of ideas n made mentals (Eugene) and Boogeyman! (lol), but as said above, the man only got 4 world titles in all this time! He has his WM streak which he may lose 2 freakin 1 of the worsts ever! He better get this World Title that he deserves... Actually, I wouldn't mind at all if he got it and held it until WM24 dominating everyone in his road, and bringing more prestige back 2 the main event... Then at WM24, he can announce retirement and at WM24, between his brother Kane and another very deserving contender in which he's had some great matches, and be the "special enforcer" and when there's a winner, a little ceremony makes history... I'd have his brother, Kane, win and Taker vacates it b4 the match and hands it 2 Kane and they raise eachother's arms and everything is insane w/ fireworks n stuff lol... n I say he should be inducted in the HOF, right there, that year.
thoughts?
 
I agree with you about the fact that Taker is one of the best for sure, but I have to disagree with your idea of him being a great worker on the mic. His gimmick just doesn't let him do that, and he is not that great anyways. But it doesn't matter, since he is still a legend.

I don't like your idea of going up to WM 24 with the title and then retiring. I possibly see him retiring at Survivor Series 2007, which would mark the end of his 17th year as a WWE superstar. Keep the title on him till then, and then make him retire by losing the title to Kane or in a classic Survivor Series match (possibly a Buried Alive Match to remember the Survivor Series moment when Kane turned on his brother helping McMahon win the Buried Alive match). I just hope they keep him 15-0 , and not go up to 16-0 or 17-0, since 15-0 looks better on paper.
 
I have to agree that Taker is one of the best, he got a great gimmic and desirves to have one last title reign before we have to see him go into retirement. I don't think we'll see Taker at 'Mania after this year ... at least not in the ring, and I don't like the idea about going from WM 23 to WM 24 as the champ ... as mentioned by tman Survior Series '07 would mark his 17th year in WWE and a good time to retire, altho a retirement cerimony(sp?) at WM would be a great thing to see for Taker, I can see a feud between Taker and Kane leading to an Hell in the Cell or Casket match at survivor series where after the match there would be a huge deal about Taker's career and then the lights dim Taker's gone and all we hear is 'Rest in Peace' or some other awsome thing that Taker could say and then a video highlighting his best matches over the years. But anyway it happens it'll be a sad day for the WWE when they lose one of the best Superstars they've ever had in the Undertaker. And I'm positive that Taker will go 15-0 at Mania. And we'll see him in the HOF soon enough.

Rest In PEACE
 
Takers '03 gimmick was better, when he was just a nutcase attacking anyone who never showed him respect. Id love to see that again, either way he needs to have some quality feuds before he goes so we all rememebr him.
 
^^^ya, Biker Undertaker was definitely the best... American Bad Ass, with the chains n everything... Everything was better in 03... Kane was recently unmasked n a tremendous monster! Lesnar, Rock, Austin, Goldberg, etc.

Maybe it would be better 2 see it end at Survivor Series 2 mark 17th year... Then I say Kane honors him in the HOF w/e he goes in.
 
that would be cool to see!
and taker is one of myfavorite guys of all time and having one of the matches that he made famous! as he's last match
 
Whatever they do you know they're going to do it right... a guy who's given everything to the company for seventeen years (and has a little bit of influence backstage, lol), is going to get respected. How they're going to do it beats me.

Although I'm on the fence about whether the streak should ever be broken (don't get me wrong, it shouldn't be broken by Batista)... it would be interesting for him to retire that way if it were someone truly deserving who broke it. But considering it's probably not very possible to find or build someone suitable by wrestlemania 24, going a more positive way is probably the best case scenario.

I think a good idea would be to have him win the Championship next weekend and hold the title throughout the year, win a title match at Wrestlemania 24 and retire, vacating the title. It would truly say something about his legacy and how no one would've been able to beat him. Retiring with the championship would be huge as well... possibly one of the biggest moments ever in wrestling.

Whether it's feasible that he could win and hold the title for an entire year is something else... it depends on if he's willing to come back and do some work full time.

Probably the most likely scenario (if he's even retiring this year), is that he holds the title until Survivor Series and drops it to someone big and up and coming, or even his brother.

We'll see... in the end it depends i think on how far Taker is willing to go, but I know we won't be disapointed with the end result.
 
I agree with those of you that say Taker should win the title and hold it until WM 24, and yes, he should face Kane then for the title...however this is where the similarities end. I say, Taker and Kane have a huge build to 'mania, Kane goes off the deep end when he keeps being reminded of his previous two losses to his brother at the "Grand Daddy of em all" He goes on to say he will not only end Taker's streak, but his career as well. The mind games are fierce, best in a long time. Then, it's time, Wrestlmania 24 Undertaker vs. Kane for the WHC. Taker appears on the verge of victory, when Kane slides out of, and under the ring, and when Big Brother gives chase, WHAM!!!! Kane hits a fireball to UT's face, hits 3 chokeslams, pins Undertaker for the title, and stands over him, holding the title over his fallen brother's singed, limp carcass. Just as we are to go off the air, Kane grabs Taker, and drags him completely out of the arena, to a nearby sea-way, pummels him a bit more, and hurls him into the ocean. The camera stays trained on the spot where Taker went in, and we all expect a hand, or his head to appear, but suddenly, there are no air bubbles, no sign of life, and the camera cuts back to Kane, laughing maniacally, and yelling that he told Taker he was going to end his career.
 
^^^ya, Biker Undertaker was definitely the best... American Bad Ass, with the chains n everything... Everything was better in 03... Kane was recently unmasked n a tremendous monster! Lesnar, Rock, Austin, Goldberg, etc.

Maybe it would be better 2 see it end at Survivor Series 2 mark 17th year... Then I say Kane honors him in the HOF w/e he goes in.

Well when I say '03 the gimmick was mostly through '02, but taker defo suited the psycotic biker respect obsessed gimmick. It wasnt as childish as the stupid american bad-ass gimmick through when he was a face that was just stupid. The graveyard supernatural gimmick is old and makes it seem unrealistic. As for '03 been great well yea and no, The rock had an awsome 4-month run as a heel, jericho and HBk had a great feud too. But Goldberg sucks, hes just a selfish, overated, uncharismatic, boring bastard. He wont lose to anyone unless it isnt clean, as he thinks hes better than everyone else. He sucks in the ring too. Lesnar was ok for a while, but he was pushed way too fast, and was shoved down us (not as much as Cena is now tho)
 
I didn't like the biker gimmick at all really. His gimmick now is his best. Though I did like in 99 or so when he was almost blatantly Satanic lol. Remember when he crucified Austin or when he was going to embalm him? Lol, classic stuff. But to the matter at hand. I definately think Taker needs to win the world title at WM. That is a must. I really don't think they will have Batista end it. And I agree with everyone who says that Kane should be the one who takes the title off of Taker. For one thing, Kane is so terribly misused right now and it would help elevate Kane to the level that he could potentialy be at again and second, he just deserves a nice title run, unlike his 24 hour reign in 1998.

I agree that SS would be a good place to end Taker's title run and to have his retirement take place, but for some reason I get the feeling that Taker is one of these guys who will be like Hogan/Flair etc and never truly retire. I don't know. Maybe not, but for some reason I feel that Taker will be around for a lot longer. But overall SS 07 seems like a good farewell to a great legend that is the Undertaker.
 
Taker has said that when he feels that he cant compete as his full potential then he will retire. He said he would never hang around like hogan and flair. I think with the way he has upgraded his moves and has gotten in awesome shape he can still wrestle another 3 or 4 years. He does deserve another title reign though before its all said and done.
 
taker is my all time fav wrestler just about, and he is a legend of proffesional wrestling and a future hall of famer.
 
In my opinion the Undertaker is one of the greatest, and most loyal superstars in the history of professional wrestling. He is what every kid looking to be a wrestler should be studying. In my eyes, he is already a hall of famer but I do see him retiring earlier than WM24.

(PS: This is my 100th post yay!!!)
 
WM24, kane vs taker for the Title

at the very end of the match, Taker has his hand around kanes throat, and then, kane wraps his hand around takers throat, and then a double chokeslam occurs, and then the lights go out... come back after a few moments, with them pinning each other, the same way orton and michaels match ended (i sware i thought of it first)
 
Taker will drop the belt before WM 24, but to who, who knows.

An Edge/Undertaker feud has to be on the cards somewhere. Here are two guys taht have been in the company together for ten years and haven't even begun to sniff a feud with each other. Edge steals shows at WM and I think that match at WM 24 would be a legit threat to the Deadmans Undefeated streak, and quite honestly, I don't think people would have a problem with him dropping the streak to an Edge. Could you imagine Edge taking down the Undertaker's Streak, and plus it be a retirement match, the man would have instant heel heat the rest of his career.

I think Taker hangs around until WM25, and he calls it quits. Undertaker in the hall of Fame at WM30.
 
OMG that was the same thing that I was gonna post Shockmaster, we must think the same way lol. Yeah if Taker was to lose to anyone at WrestleMania I would like to see Edge do the job. I was talking about a Taker/Edge match to alot of my friends and they both agreed that would be one hell of a showdown. Edge would for sure have heel heat for the rest of his career no doubt about that, they both are two awsome superstars.

Also I heard that Edge still has his WrestleMania streak because he did not get pinned so he is still undeafted at WrestleMania. Just think about it people.. WRESTLEMANIA 24 EDGE VS. THE UNDERTAKER *RECORD VS. RECORD* That would be one hell of a damn match and also very interesting. IMO that would steal the show.
 
I can honestly believe that the Undertaker will keep the title until WM24. The only thing that can be a problem with it is that the Undertaker will need to keep a full time schedule, and thus there is the risk for injury or fatigue or something. But I truly believe that no one will beat Undertaker until WM24. But WM24 will be his last match, and I think he will lose it. The only two guys I see beating him should be Kane or Edge, as stated above. With Edge vs Undertaker, its a streak vs streak. Edge not only did not get pinned at WM(which still would be a defeat because Edge guys in TLC or MITB and they all got losses) but Edge was actually taken out of the match. Since he did not finish the match, he officially did not lose the match, hence still undefeated at mania. I can see a good long feud here, with Edge winning the rumble and challenging Taker for the title. At WM, Edge is able to pull out the victory, and in essence end the Takers legacy and his career. The other feud mentioned is Kane vs Taker. As we have seen over the last few months, Kane and Taker have worked together. So I see that going into Summerslam, this union continues. Taker can be in a feud with someone, and Kane has come down to help his brother out(ala Taker Heidenrich match at Rumble a few years back). In the process of helping his brother, Kane is horribly burned in the face by a fireball thrown by his brother which accidentaly hits him. Kane then disappears, and is not heard from again until after survivor series. After Survivor Series, mysterious stuff starts happening around Taker, and all this mystery culminates with the return of Kane at Rumble(which gives Kane the ample times he needs to heal up). Kane comes in at the end of Takers title defense at the Rumble, and Kane now has his mask on again. Taker is in shock, and Kane completely destroys Taker. Later that evening, Kane makes a sudden appearance in the rumble match himself, eliminating approx. 15 wrestlers, and wins the rumble. This then leads to a casket match between Kane and Taker at WM, where Kane wins, takes the title, ends the streak, and ends Takers career. We are then able to pay homage at the end of the nite to the career of the taker.
 
I agree with you guys that Edge/Undertaker would be one the best fueds the WWE has seen in a while, and Edge definately deserves to finally headline a WM. But I dunno if WWE would make that match at WM. It would be better to have Edge take the title @ SS. The thing about Edge is that he works well as both a heel and a face. As a heel, Edge has good wrestling skills and great mike skills. As a face, he has good personality and mikeskills, and an incredible moveset. I don't think the WWE wud want Edge to have eternal heel heat on him shud the occasion arise for a face turn(against a heel Kennedy, HUH...HUH... wud'ya think?!). Give Edge the title @ SS, end the taker's career, but @ the same time earn his respect and the fans', in the process turning him face ala Benoit-orton. this leads to Edge-Kennedy @ WM24 where Taker returns 4 1 nite only 2 help Edge retain the title and keep a fellow streak alive. Taker-Kane is stale, sorry 2 all u guys still livin in the late 90's.
Excelsior!!
 
i don't think 'Taker is ever going to lose at Mania...that will be his legacy...other guys like Hogan,Flair,HHH,Rock have 8,9,10, 16 world title reigns, 'taker's had 5 in 17 years....what will set him apart from everyone will be the streak..Edge does not have a streak at Mania anymore, he did not win his match this year, Kennedy did....it wasn't a singles match, but Edge did not secure a victory...yes he was not defeated but it's still tainted nonetheless...Taker has 15 undisputed victories in a row period...Edge can never claim that now...he can say 8 wins, one no contest, and whatever after that depending on how long his career is....Undertaker has apparently, according to the sources on this site agreed to work a full time schedule this year...he did not get into the shape he is in currently to work for a couple of months and then screw off for 6 months....if Diesel can hold the belt for a full year, JBL for 10 months, and Cena 21 of the past 24 months, there is no reason to think a legend like 'Taker,who is arguably at his peak of popularity can't hold the title for a full year and restore some of the credibilty that was lost on it while Batista held it....
 
I think that Kane is a worthy contender for Undertaker's championship. I like your idea about vacating the title, but for some reason, i wanna see benoit take the title from him. I'm a pretty big Benoit fan, and i think he should feud with taker around summerslam, and perhaps make him tap out for the first time in his career. Benoit deserves better. This feud with MVP crap is low for him. MVP should just be fired.
 
How now Germanator! Don't get mad, but I diagree with u. I like the MVP-Benoit fued. IT's really brought out MVP's potential. B4 this he fueded with jobbers and Kane, neither of whom looked good in that fued. This is the first time that MVP's shown the skill that I heard he had on the Indy circuit. On a side note, on the Indy circuit, MVP used a modified crossface hold which he called the TTB. TTB is a double entendre; it means both Take it To the Bank and... Tribute To Benoit. Whoops I forgot this is supposed to be bout Taker. Taker-Edge Edge wins the title at SS. Nuff said. Excelsior!
 
Here is an idea i think when the Undertaker returns after completing his therapy to heal his injury, I think i want to see him feud with the Rater R Superstar Edge whom i feel would be the nexts WHC this coming Thursday. This will lead to a match at Wrestlemania 24 and Edge will defeat the Undertaker and end his winning streak. Undertaker will shake hands with Edge and passed his torch to the Rated R Superstar.
 
Here is an idea i think when the Undertaker returns after completing his therapy to heal his injury, I think i want to see him feud with the Rater R Superstar Edge whom i feel would be the nexts WHC this coming Thursday. This will lead to a match at Wrestlemania 24 and Edge will defeat the Undertaker and end his winning streak. Undertaker will shake hands with Edge and passed his torch to the Rated R Superstar.

i highly doubt that a legend like 'Taker is going to sit on the sidelines for 6-8 months, return, and lose his first high profile main event inside of a year...i got news for ya, the streak is never going to be broken....
 
The Undertaker cannot possibly lose his title to a horrible wrestler like Edge. Where is the justice if that happens. I only watch SD for Undertaker and if he loses, I will not be tunning in every week.
 

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