America's Southern Border and Refugee Crisis

[klunderbunker]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-request-billions-to-deal-with-border-crisis/

In the biggest news story in the country at the moment, the United States' southern border is overrun with a flood of migrants coming to the country from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. Many of these are children, who have been coming due to a perceived belief that they are allowed to stay should they make it across the border.

The immigration stations are completely overwhelmed by the people who are fleeing from violence, poverty and corruption in their countries. This has led to a showdown between pro and anti immigrant groups in areas such as Murrieta, California.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/im...ieta-braces-more-immigration-protests-n147956

There hasn't been a flood of people coming to the country like this in recent history and opinions are divided on whether they're refugees or illegal aliens crossing our borders without just reason.

Thoughts on this situation, immigration, potential immigration reform and any related topics in general?

All non-spam discussion is welcome and encouraged.

 

[Slash-LN]

If they're coming here and following laws and working and not bothering anybody I don't care.

My aunt is from Germany so I'd be a total hypocrite if I was anti immigration. A couple of my friends were born in Mexico and moved here as young kids. Same thing with some people that I worked with at different places.

We have doctors that come over here from other countries that do their schooling over here and either go back and help the country they came from or decide to stay here and continue to be doctors here.

People focus way too much on the negatives when it comes to immigrants. I get that there are some that come here and don't want to work or whatever but there's a shit ton of people that were born here that don't want to work and are violent and whatever else the negatives are.

Maybe if I lived in an area where there was a large influx of immigrants I might have a different stance but I don't so I'm sticking with my current stance.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

But therein lies the problem. If you're going to emmigrate, do it legally. Friend of mine has a wife who came here legally and it's harder for THEM to get citizenship than it is if she was an illegal immigrant. They focus more on that then those who come here legally which is a sham in my opinion. It's also because countries like Mexico tell it's citizenry that it's OK to cross the boarder illegally because the United States will fast track citizenship for them which again, is a sham. I'm not against immigration. I'm just against illegal actions.

 

[ABMorales787]

But therein lies the problem. If you're going to emmigrate, do it legally. Friend of mine has a wife who came here legally and it's harder for THEM to get citizenship than it is if she was an illegal immigrant. They focus more on that then those who come here legally which is a sham in my opinion. It's also because countries like Mexico tell it's citizenry that it's OK to cross the boarder illegally because the United States will fast track citizenship for them which again, is a sham. I'm not against immigration. I'm just against illegal actions.

How exactly do kids emmigrate legally? The very reason they're trying to cross the border is because their state of living is no good. You really think they can grab a passport and go through the borders like a married Mexican-America couple could? Its not even one country they're crossing.

 

[Thriller Ant]

I'd be more in support of the "make 'em do it the right way" idea if it wasn't nearly impossible for these people to do it "the right way." Most of these people are poor and uneducated, which makes both the costs and the forms (which I believe are mostly in English) an insurmountable obstacle. The process needs to be made accessible to these lower class people in order to change what seems to be the current culture of illegal immigration.

 

[Reflection]

Coming from a poverty-stricken, underdeveloped, ill-minded, corrupted-to-the-roots country myself, I can see the appeal that the name "America" has... One thinks that this is some sort of dreamland, where if you set foot once, you won't have to look back again... which is not entirely false too. Honestly, I don't blame the American government for making immigration a lot tougher than it once was; filtering out the intellectual folks from the unwashed masses, because at one point, they would run out of job opportunities for a good proportion of their own people. Those poor immigrants too must have considered the first part, and will learn about the second part quite soon.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

How exactly do kids emmigrate legally? The very reason they're trying to cross the border is because their state of living is no good. You really think they can grab a passport and go through the borders like a married Mexican-America couple could? Its not even one country they're crossing.

If their parents emigrated here legally, and they're under 18 it's easier for those kids to get citizenship. Once you emigrate here and you're over 18 it gets really tough which shouldn't be like that BUT, the fact remains. Can you tell me why that is? Why my friend's wife, who came here legally, earned her green card, and yet can't get her citizenship but an illegal who doesn't have a green card, gets fast tracked?

 

[Trill Co$by]

The other week, my neighbor took in two of her friends after having went down on their luck. But before she did, she told both of them that the most she'd allow them to stay was for two weeks. That time ends tomorrow, and she's firm on the fact that if they're not out by tomorrow then she'll put them out. Keep in mind these are supposedly some of her best friends, but as she has talked to me about it, "I'd love to be able to be their rock during hard times. But the fact is I've got four kids, six animals, and a husband... not to mention my own job. I'd love to help, and I believe that I have done the most I can do with what I can do."

And this is the same thing here. As much as I'm sure American Politicians would love to help other country citizens with their problems, we still have problems of our own. Children in America are already starving, are already homeless, and are getting their lives threatened daily. As a country, those children should be America's priorities not some other country's children. It's a sad and heart breaking situation, I admit. But if everybody starts coming here and flooding America, then it's only going to become as bad if not worse than the countries they're fleeing from.