Am I the only one souring on The Miz?

[Twiztid Rodimus]

Before people go all off on me and stating their complete and utter lust for the man, and say that I'm just ''hating'' on him. Hear me out.

We all know the jist of his history, we know his dues paid etc, and the high hopes that the people have for Miz, and I agree completely, the guy is as good as people think.

The reason I am posting this may not be revolutionary at all, but I find WAY to many similarities between him and Jericho. As I stated before, not a new thought, but its become more and more apparent to me as of late.

His promos sound, in tone and pacing, Just like jerichos. And that to me makes it very hard to differentiate him from Chris. And for that I have taken him down a few pegs in my thoughts of his uprising.

Other wrestlers have taken from the past and sometimes present peers around them, but in Miz's point of view, he is practically taken every cue from Jericho. Miz's time with Morrison set him apart as a character, but as soon as he started in on Cena, he became Jericho lite, not that its all bad, but its so obvious and noticeable.

Do you guys agree, or disagree on this. And if possible, leave the flaming crap to other threads, I try to come often to this site, but the close mindedness for others opinions is a turn off.

 

[darbare]

I do agree I have noticed some similarities between the two....Miz changes his hair style from colored mohawks to a clean fauxhawk look...Jericho changes from long hair to clean cut short hair....Jericho changes to short trunks....Miz changes to short trunks.....Jericho begins to start wearing suits...Miz starts wearing vests and suits.....I do see a lot of similarities....one major things that separates them is in ring ability....Miz can only dream of being as talented in the ring as Jericho...while he still has years ahead of him, in my mind he wont surpass Jericho....his mic skills are unique and I wouldnt say they are jericho like whatsoever.....I think in time Miz will be his own man and people will compare future guys to him..

 

[Twiztid Rodimus]

I do agree I have noticed some similarities between the two....Miz changes his hair style from colored mohawks to a clean fauxhawk look...Jericho changes from long hair to clean cut short hair....Jericho changes to short trunks....Miz changes to short trunks.....Jericho begins to start wearing suits...Miz starts wearing vests and suits.....I do see a lot of similarities....one major things that separates them is in ring ability....Miz can only dream of being as talented in the ring as Jericho...while he still has years ahead of him, in my mind he wont surpass Jericho....his mic skills are unique and I wouldnt say they are jericho like whatsoever.....I think in time Miz will be his own man and people will compare future guys to him..

The similarities are subtle, and aren't spot on at all times, but his pacing and tone resembles Jericho, But if you disagree with that one aspect, I respect it.

About Miz's in ring, I agree, he will never get to jericho's status, and thats not fault of Miz, Jericho has world wide experience in Japan, Mexico,against the competitors of Ecw/Wcw/Wwf and E, so his vast opponents and time make his one of a kind in his own way.

I think my wording may be a bit harsh against Miz, but I feel that the credit he is recieving is alot of pressure to go with what works, and what works, is emulating Jericho.

 

[Барбоса]

I can understand someone losing some interest in the Miz. In recent weeks, he has been in a similar boat to Wade Barrett. Since finishing up his feud with Daniel Byran, he has had a rather limited amount of ring time spending his time running his mouth towards any number of other wrestlers or guest hosts. I do not think that this has been helpful to his claim of being a soon-to-be WWE Champion.

However, while Barrett on the mic has pushed his character so far into the stratosphere that there is a very real chance that he walks away from Survivor Series as the WWE Champion despite his ring skills not being ready for it, I find that the Miz has not done anything to further his character and at times it is Alex Riley that is coming off as the more polished promo guy out of the two.

 

[Ultra Awesome]

I disagree. I have no idea why you would see any resemblence between Jericho and the Miz. They're not complete opposites but they are not that similar. Sure, the both of them are solid on the mic, but that's about all they have in common. Their wrestling style is different. Their personality isn't that much similar either. Now their greater difference is that Jericho has walked a much different path to the top than the Miz is walking at the momment.

As for their mic skills, sure Miz has his moments where he looks like he acts super serious but it's not that often to the point where he is talking like Chris Jericho. When Chirs Jericho speaks on the mic, he talks like a narcisistical bastard using all kinds of big words. Henceforth, his gimmick. Miz, on the other hand, is more casual when he talks. A bit more laid back.Besides, Chris Jericho is easily way better on the mic than the Miz is.

My opinion of the MIz has somewhat changed in the past few months. While at first, I was a big mark for him, now he’s whatevaa to me now. Miz hasn’t really accomplished much since his feud with Daniel Bryan. If anything, he is starting to become a lingering mid-carder like the so many others. Sure he was in the Bragging Rights team but that really didn’t give him any benefit whatsoever. Now, had he won the match, we’d be talking a different story. Then you even have that god-awful segment where he was with Pee-wee Herman---what a joke that was. I had horrible flashbacks of the time where Raw only focused on their RAW guest hosts.

I really hope the WWE gets back to pushing the Miz more. He hasn’t done much and I think it’s really affecting many people’s opinion of him [including my own]. We all know he’s going to be our next poster boy, but the WWE could at least do something more to prove to us how great he is. He’s got money in the bank for a reason…it’s stupid to just have him doing nothing…

 

[Coco]

I'd never dream of accusing Miz of emulating Jericho because you're so far off the mark that it's laughable. Miz isn't anything like Jericho except for the fact that they're both cocky heels. Well big deal. I can list a whole slew of cokcy heels. Miz is completely distinct in that he represents a heel who espouses legit points of view of both the audience (and their occasional irrational anti-Cena sentiment) and management (indy stars are a joke). That's nothing like Chris Jericho. Sorry.

To answer the question posed in the title, you aren't the only one. I've long since soured on Miz. The man has about two really enjoyable singles matches under his belt, both against two of the best workers in the company. Aside from that, he's gotten by at so-so mic skills that are just enough to get by in a down period. Sorry to say, but someone whose only qualification to be a headliner in the WWE is his ability to speak fluent English isn't exactly a favorite of mine. Typical professional wrestler below average acting is nice to give us emotional investment in the product and all, but I don't watch wrestling just to hear someone talk. I know some people seem to think that counts for everything, but not I. So there's no question that I've long since grown tired of him and his unjustified hype.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

I can understand someone losing some interest in the Miz. In recent weeks, he has been in a similar boat to Wade Barrett. Since finishing up his feud with Daniel Byran, he has had a rather limited amount of ring time spending his time running his mouth towards any number of other wrestlers or guest hosts. I do not think that this has been helpful to his claim of being a soon-to-be WWE Champion.

However, while Barrett on the mic has pushed his character so far into the stratosphere that there is a very real chance that he walks away from Survivor Series as the WWE Champion despite his ring skills not being ready for it, I find that the Miz has not done anything to further his character and at times it is Alex Riley that is coming off as the more polished promo guy out of the two.

I can't say that I agree on behalf of the un-ring ability of barrett. I think part of the reason he beat gabriel or bryan in NXT was because he can go in both the ring and on the mic. I do agree about alex riley though. I heard riley speak once for about a minute a couple of weeks ago and thought to myself, "Dear god! I actually think this guy is better on the mic than miz". I think sometimes the reason why miz's mic skills are held in such high regard are because of the monotonous tone he uses to deliver his speeches.

 

[kingjaekob]

The MIZ actually has better mic skills than Jericho! Jericho is a hippocrite, he is very boring and monotenous on the mic! (sorry for my spelling!) As far as in ring skills Jericho is better, but MIZ is not bad! I believe The Miz will be champ early 2011, and then have another championship run during the Summer months. This is classic WWE operations. THe MIZ is here peeps, get READY!

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Aside from the fact that both Jericho & The Miz are cocky heels, I see no emulation whatsoever. Wrestling has been filled with cocky heels so that's nothing new. If you want an example of emulation, look at Ric Flair & Nature Boy Buddy Rogers. I don't want to give the impression that I'm slamming Flair, but three quarters of the character that he's had for well over 30 years now has been taken from the Nature Boy persona of Buddy Rogers. He managed to exceed Buddy Rogers and take the character to the next level, but it was still a copied gimmick.

As to the question, I haven't soured on The Miz at all. I think he's one of the best young heels in wrestling in my view and I see very big things ahead for him in 2011. I agree that The Miz isn't some revolutionary dynamo inside the ring, but he's in no way bad in the ring. He's had very good matches against Daniel Bryan, John Morrison, MVP, Kofi Kingston, John Cena and others. I think a big problem of the IWC, one among many, is that many want/expect a wrestler to be all things to all people and it's simply not going to pan out that way. Even internet darlings like AJ Styles or Christopher Daniels aren't a "total package". Neither is The Miz and that's just fine in my view.

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

I would probably be souring on the MIZ if I didn't think he SUCKED to BEGIN WITH!!! HE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO GARBAGE! I really am amazed that people like this guy at all. I really don't understand why. His ring skills are average at best... His so called GREAT PROMOS consist of the creative phrases REALLY? and I am AWWWWWEEEEESSSOOOME! LOL! He is not intimidating at all and I THINK ALEX RILEY OUT MIZS MIZ LATELY! I see the Jericho similarities but honestly I think its a coincidence,,, Miz is the Miz... AND THAT IS THE SAD PART!!!!

 

[DamienM855]

I agree that there are similarities in Jericho's and Miz's tone of voice, but this could be just a coincidence.

And to be honest, as much as i love the Miz's promos, Riley is a cut above him both on the stick and in the ring - And I see a bit of a dilemma here.

What ways are there to separate Riley and the Miz, whilst keeping both heel, whilst keeping Riley relevant, whilst having the Miz as a main-event worthy wrestler, whilst keeping the Miz with the same jericho-esque promos that we've all seen before, when Riley is on the wings outshining him at every opportunity?

 

[LSN80]

Im not quite sure I understand completely. Are you souring on Miz because you feel that he's too much like Jericho on the mic, or because he hasn't done anything of relevance as of late?

I really don't see the comparisons between Miz and Jericho at all. Even though they're both cocky, they're cocky in completely different ways. Jericho is the corporate businessman type, if you will, that has made alot of money, and because of it, thinks he's better then you. The portrayal of his character is that he wouldn't give you a second glance on the street.

Miz style is more of that up and coming type that's accomplished too much, too fast. Because of all he's accomplished in that short time, he's full of himself in every way. But unlike Jericho, he wants you to acknowledge his "awesomeness." Im sure we've all had a co-worker like the Miz we've wanted to punch in the face. If we had a co-worker like Jericho, well, we'ld likely want to do much worse after awhile.

But no, I havent gotten sick of the Miz in the slightest bit. They've taken a little bit of the luster off of him due to recent losses and lessened TV time, but even thats not a terrible thing, because it will set up a nice surprise when he does cash in his Money in the Bank Briefcase, and hopefully win the title. He's had his share of pretty decent matches as well, and they havent just been with Daniel Bryan.

But no, I really dont see the similarities between Miz and Jericho. Jericho is a condescending narcissist, while Miz is a pandering MoFo. And there's nothing wrong with either, they both play their roles quite well. Personally, the more I see of Miz, whether it be in the ring or on the mic, the more I enjoy him.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Miz is like Jericho? I don't see it. I guess for me to sour on Miz, I would have had to like him in the first place, and I didn't. I don't see these huge improvements everyone talks about.

He has shown absolutely nothing in the ring. Nothing. When has he ever put on a performance worthy of all this talk? Never, I don't think. I think he's totally mediocre in the ring.

On the mic, I am not really feeling him either. I thought he was improving, but I just don't get the appeal. He's a cocky heel..wow. So is every other heel out there. He bores me when he talks. He's completely monotone, and unappealing. Maybe if he were given a decent, long-term feud, I would change my mind.

Someone brought up Alex Riley earlier, and I have some thoughts on that as well. I think, from what I've seen of Riley so far, he's better than Miz already. He's far more entertaining and charismatic on the mic, and he's much more athletic in the ring. WWE is really high on Miz, and I'm not sure they are focusing on the right half of that connection.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Its pretty obvious that the OP is a Miz fan but he right in saying that the Miz has soured a bit. He's wrong in saying though that it is because of his similarities with Jericho.

The thing is most people, whether his fans or his haters, would have thought that Miz would slowly become a main event staple after winning his MITB briefcase. But that has not been the case because simply there are no main event level faces for Miz to feud with. Orton and Cena are both embroiled in this Nexus storyline with Barrett. That leaves Miz with guys like Bryan and R-Truth who are far far away from main event status. In a way you could say that Barrett's rise has contributed to Miz's stagnation in the upper midcard. That is why I guess a few guys have soured on him. He has not risen to main event status as soon as people would have liked.

As for his similarities with Jericho there are absolutely none of them. Jericho's present gimmick was that of a serious guy who believed he was the best at what he did. Miz, on the other hand, seems to cut promos as if to mock his opponents. Jericho was not like that. He played a guy who was besotted with himself. In his promos he either tooted his own horn or insulted the crowd. He didn't exactly mock his opponent like Miz does.

I'm sure though that the OP is not comparing the in ring abilities or else this thread would be borderline ******ed. Miz has not even given a four star match so far while Jericho has about 20 ****+ matches.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

I haven't soured on the Miz, but more like he has been "eh." to me.

I think The Miz's biggest problem is his booking. When he won that MITB briefcase in the summer, it looked like he was going to have a good rest of the year. He was shown weekly going toe to toe with the champ at the time and almost cashing in his title shot a few times. However, a tall Englishman blossomed in his push and has completely overshadowed The Miz as the 'new' guy in the main event scene.

Now it seems like the WWE are trying to keep The Miz relevant, but Wade Barrett and Cena have been slamming home runs each segment or promo.

 

[Tech N9ne]

Instead of arguing with you, because I do not feel the same as you, as far as "souring" on him goes.

I think he is about to embark on a huge run. So, I think in a sense, they are pacing him. Because soon he will probably be on top. Though, anything is possible.

But I do agree about the similarities to Chris Jericho. I will just simply say this. If Miz was to be compared to anyone in wrestling today, or in the history of it in general. I don't think there would be a better comparison, or a better person to be compared to, then Jericho.

I think The Miz would be lucky to have a similar style and career path as Chris Jericho's. So I guess it could be worse. If he was being compared to someone of a lesser stature. Then maybe he would be in trouble.

But I think if being compared to someone like Jericho, is people souring on him. Then 95% of guys that are trying to make a name for themselves in the business, would want you to sour on them too. lol

 

[cliffdweller]

Jerico and the Miz? REEEEAAALLLLYYYYY????? the Miz isn't fit to be in the same ring as Jerico much less be compared to him. While he is copying Jericho in a lot of things he is not in the same class. His mic work is questionable at best and his in ring ability, well let's just say Jericho is Bret Hart to the Miz's John Cena, some raw talent but nothing compared to Jericho. When comparing the Miz to Jericho there really is no comparision. Let the Miz be Miz and Jericho be Jericho.

 

[Dagger Dias]

So Jericho is the only one to ever use sarcasm in promos before the Miz? Last time I checked that wasn't true. I don't see any similarities other than the fact that they both use sarcasm. If Miz was taking every cue from Jericho then he would be calling the fans gelatinous tape worms by now. He would also be calling himself the best in the world at what he does. They both happen to speak slowly in promos and use sarcasm. Jericho wasn't the first to do it and Miz won't be the last. It's an interesting theory, but they really aren't that similar because they say different types of things and the only part that's the same is perhaps their tone.

 

[therealblob]

I think the Miz could grow to be one of the best heels the WWE has ever seen. I was fortunate to see him against John Cena at a house show at the O2 in London last week and his mic skills came over a lot better than on TV. But the thing I was most surprised with was how well the fans greeted him and how well he played up to the fans. If he can stay "in the limelight" so to speak then he could have an extremely long and fruitful career.