WHAT!? You're going to claim that our current society is Anti-male? Are you taking the piss or are you high?
Excuse I must clarify that, Anti-White male. I was neither pissing or high when I said this, although I might have enjoyed either at some point afterward.
Right, this has nothing to do with people being led by emotions. People trust other people more than any other evidence. It's why witness testmonies, while incredably unreliable are taken into consideration more than science. Hence why a crying woman with more holes in her story than swiss cheese can successfully get a 'rapist' convicted despite overwhelming evidence. Emotions also got OJ off.
So I take it your still with me at this point, ok.
What goes on in the bedroom is of no concern of the state. and since when did SNM become a symptom of mental instability. Especially considering that this was something they'd done in the past, discussed, and she only cried rape because she thought he was ditching her.
What goes on in the bedroom is a reflection of a person inside. Sex is a form of expression, not an involuntary reaction or something. That's what separates us from animals, the ability to think rather than act purely on instinct. Just for your information, sadomasochism IS linked to mental illness, since you don't seem to really know what it is anyways here's a link, go look for yourself, it says it in plain black and white.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadomasochism
As I was saying, sex is a form of expression, an expression of emotions. What emotions and desires someone carries out in the bedroom is a good look inside of the person, giving you a good indication of what kind of mental and emotional state they are in. Someone who in unhinged for example might be into inflicting pain onto another person, and having the same done to them. What about that doesn't tell you there is something deeply and emotionally wrong with someone absolutely floors me.
for the love of god Gamerage, what people are into sexually has nothing to do with mental stability. The father of cryptoanalysis was gay, Heisenberg came up with his uncertainty principle whilst having sex with his mistress. Not to mention other great people whose sexual preferences were no impediment to their ability to think.
For the love of God Remix, what people are into sexually most certainly does have plenty to do with mental stability. That has been established. The father of cryptoanalysis being gay, and Heisenberg cheating on his wife have nothing to do with anything I was saying.
I will however point out more deviate activity revolving around sex as you noted with Heisenberg. His infidelity is a reflection of him inside, showing that he is a dishonest and disloyal man, how is that not a reflection of a persons mentality? I never said any of this had to do with intelligence either, you assumed that's what I meant as you took the liberty of doing over and over throughout your whole post. Intelligence and morality are obviously two different things as shown by your own example, both of those people and you claim many more, were obviously very smart, however they were also immoral in their sexual relations, one for sure.
that they're sexual deviants? yes. But what the fuck has enjoying suffocation got to do with what they're like outside of the bedroom?
Well take a good long look at the lists of serial killer, rapist, and so on who coincidently all had tendencies of the same sexual urges and desires. Bundy, Dahmer, Gacey, Ed Gein, Albert Fish, David Berkowitz, Gary Ridgway, does that paint a clear enough picture for you.
To repeat what I said at the start of this post, WHAT!? Sexuality has got absolutely nothing do so with mental health.
Again, do the research. Mental illness has been established in the professional community as being not only a cause but a by product of homosexuality, as has alcoholism, drug abuse, and suicide which all come down to choice, as does homosexuality itself. Enough Said.
Seriously, you're classing homosexuals, who are of otherwise excellent mental health are 'sick in the head' for what isn't a choice for them? For fucks sake man get your brain out of the nineteen fifties. There's a reason that gay people are (slowly) getting the same rights as straight people. Because there's nothing wrong with them there's nothing that needs to be fixed.
Actually you were doing that, I was referring to the two people in the situation we were discussing. I didn't even mention homosexuals until later when making a completely different point. On the contrary though, as noted earlier mental illness and homosexuality go hand in hand. That doesn't mean they aren't smart, or that they can't function in society. It means that somewhere along the way in their life, something emotionally or mentally happened to them, causing them to choose that lifestyle. Often times it is as a result of an emotional or chemical imbalance, that is not my word, that is science. Do the work yourself and find out.
They're just attracted to a different gender than you. discrimination against homosexuals is akin to discrimination against left handers. It's about as much of a choice, and about as important outside of very specific circumstances.
Once more, it is a choice, and by the way I'm not in a debate over that fact either. It's a lot more important than you make it out to be as well. If it wasn't you and others wouldn't stand against and for it. It's about a choice of lifestyle, and some lifestyles that are unhealthy such as that encouraged by homosexuality which is unhealthy on a number of levels, shouldn't be promoted or looked on as passe.
well, considering that he (consentually) had sex with the woman whilst she was unconcious, and was probably enjoying it I'd say that he does get off on it. use your own fucking common sence and reading comprehension skills. That does NOT make him a rapist though. Because he isn't doing this stuff without her consent, and if she had said the safety words, would presumably have stopped. ANd the fact that they'd done it before with no problems indicates that she probably doesn't mind it either. Or that she's scared of the rapist, but then she's have stuck to her story in the witness box.
Once again, I did not say that the guy absolutely was a rapist. I said that he was probably a rapist at heart a rapist based on the things he enjoys doing to women which are consistent with raping a women. He has an alternative to raping unwilling women, he finds women who are completely willing. That doesn't change the gears turning in his head, or lack thereof in the female partaker.
Doesn't that say something too? Why would a woman want someone to suffocate them, mutilate their bodies, and play out fantasies like that on them? Doesn't someone wanting people to do that to them tell you something is wrong with them? Or a man wanting another man to sodomize him? Doesn't that trip the red flag in your head that tells you "Hey there's something wrong with that" or "That person has some fucking issues." ? How the fuck am I the crazy one for thinking there is something wrong with all that?
Obviously she either doesn't think he's a rapist, or she doesn't think that consensual erotic asphyxiation is tantamount to rape.
First of all, use spell check. I have been correcting all your errors to be nice, and display your quotes respectfully. Secondly, see the above paragraph for this one.
for the third time. WHAT!? Gamerage, what fucking buisness of oyurs is it what to people do in their bedrooms?
I never said it was my business, I stated my opinion on it. Big Difference!!!
And what the fuck makes you think that deviating from the sexual norm should be a capital offence? WHat the fuck? I'm not even going to begin telling you what's ficked up about that.
I'll tell you, when it leads to rape how about that? Or sexual assault of some kind, is pedophilia ok too that's a sexual preference too? What's the big deal it's only kids and their fragile psyche? Are you fucking kidding me man!!!!???? Sex Crimes come in all colors, shapes, and sizes as well as situations. Isn't the fact that a lot of it is unnecessarily dangerous enough? We don't let people kill themselves, so why let them kill themselves in another way, through choosing a dysfunctional destructive lifestyle? I wasn't actually suggesting anything be a capital crime or anything either, just that sex offenders of whatever type need to be dealt with much more seriously and strictly. I just made the point in a very bold statement which I understand if you were thrown off by.
I am sorry, but when people show they can't make the right choices, that means they have to be made for them. A reflection of this ideology is the legal system, when you make bad choices you are punished until you figure out to make the right choices. If you don't figure it out, you will continually be punished. I'm not saying punish homosexuals for being homosexual, but rather educate people on the truths of it to prevent them from engaging in that lifestyle. The non violent are not the big concern, its people like this J.A. guy, and people into that shit that are violent that I think need some therapy or a hug or something.
you're seriously saying that perjury should be a capital offense?
No that's not what I was saying, I was just making it a point that the lady should have at least faced some kind of repercussions due to her perjury. Stop misrepresenting what I am saying.
Game, first off if you think that deviants are the scum of the earth and should be forcibly removed from life you're more fucked up than you think they are.
Once again I wasn't saying that literally, you need to figure out how to determine when someone is serious or not. I feel like Eminem here, people wrongly taking some of the shit I say serious, and missing the serious parts. I was merely expressing once again that I think punishment and handling of people who like committing sex crimes against the willing or unwilling be handled more seriously.
I bet you if the government started hanging rapists, pedophiles, and murderers in public all of the sudden you'd see that people weren't doing that shit anymore. That's because they'd get the point "We don't fuck around here", and once they knew "Oh Fuck, I'm going to get hung for that shit." I bet you the numbers on those types of crimes plummets. But as is these people get slaps on the wrists, put on a list, and sent back out on the streets to do the same things again.
Secondly, what sorts of sexual practice would be worthy of drowning?
For the umpteenth time, that wasn't what I was saying literally.
Obviously hardcore SNM is, Homosexuality too I imagine. Would mild bondage, or a bit of apanking be ok? And what about non-vaginal heterosexual sex? Would anal with your wife warrent drowning, or two just a beating?
I don't approve of any of that for starters, especially sodomy. I like how you tried to rephrase the term to "Non-Vaginal heterosexual sex", that's what all the sympathizers do, try to redefine the words to make all of that shit "OK" and morally acceptable. Did it ever occur to you that if it was ok you wouldn't need to defend those actions? Ever? FUCK MAN!!!!
This is so frustrating, how this shit doesn't register with you and so many others is a mystery. I don't get it. Most of this is common sense stuff, how are you and so many lacking of it? I don't think that anyone should be treated like shit because of sexual preference, I have never treated a gay person wrong in my entire life, and have had plenty of gay friends that were both male and female. I have nothing against the person, just some of the choices they make.
When talking about the real violent weird shit like Sadism and Masochism, I think those people have some real issues that need worked out, and that their practices in the bedroom should be discouraged in any way possible for obvious reasons. Unfortunately as I noted, people who are into that kind of thing generally tend to have a lot darker deeper issues. The very nature of S&M is to commit acts of violence against the body of another, that doesn't need to be embraced or morally and socially accepted. It walks a very thin line of legality as is, and when it gets out of control and people die or are hurt weather they were unwilling or willing, there should be consequences and probably treatment. What is so crazy about that?