A blessing in disguise.

TheBadGuy92

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Last night on Raw John Cena appears to have broken his nose in his match with Seth Rollins. I think this can be a blessing in disguise. The injury gives super Cena a legit excuse to lose the U.S. Open. How I would book this is next week on Raw , Kevin Owens comes out fired up and calls out Cena saying "You're not supposed to give up" "champions never back down broken nose or not" John Cena reluctantly accepts the match and its on. Owens works the nose gets a couple near falls Cena begins his normal comeback for the win but Owens just gets one more shot to the nose to knock Cena back out for the win. Hell, an alternate route you can take.. Cena is still about to win broken nose and all and Rollins causes the distraction for Owens to win. John Cena now pursues Seth and Kevin Owens has a title to defend at SummerSlam against either Orton or Cesaro in a match I would be excited for!! How are we in the IwC feeling about that? Let's see some counter story lines?!
 
Having John Cena drop the US Title before SummerSlam would be dumb. Especially if it's from interference thanks to Rollins. The US Open Challenge has been built up so much it has to end with a clean win to somebody for the major rub. Also, the entire point of the Cena/Rollins feud is "who is the better champion?" so it needs to be champion vs. champion for the World Title at SummerSlam. Rollins breaking Cena's nose is a blessing in that it's a tool for Rollins to draw heat, and it will add to their feud.

Here's what will probably happen. Cena has beaten Rollins to defend his US Title, which means that Rollins will probably beat Cena to defend his World Title, because the WWE loves 50/50 booking. Then at Night of Champions, will will fittingly get a Double Championship Match. John Cena vs. Seth Rollins with both Titles on the line. Something's gotta give. Cena goes over to win the World Title, but Sheamus cashes in MITB to steal it. So Sheamus walks out of Night of Champions the new World Champion, and Cena is still the US Champion. From there you can go into Cena vs. Sheamus for the World Title, or a Triple Threat with Cena, Sheamus and Rollins. The US Open Challenge angle can ultimately end one of two ways. Either on a random RAW for a huge shocker, or keep Cena's run as Champion going until WrestleMania 32 and end it there. The US Title has been built up so much, I'd be more inclined to go the Mania route personally. By then, Cena will have held it for a year and it will be an even bigger deal. At the Slammy Awards, have the award for match of the year go to Cena vs. Owens. Cena comes out and accepts the award, then gets attacked by Owens out of nowhere and powerbombed off the stage. Cena goes off TV for a couple weeks, selling the injury, and people speculate if he'll be able to recover in time to compete in the Rumble. He returns in the Rumble and goes after Owens. Cena eliminates Owens, but Owens comes back into the ring and eliminates Cena, then beats the hell out of him and pwoerbombs him on the apron before being escorted away by officials. This reignites the Cena/Owens feud for the Road to WrestleMania, and at WrestleMania Owens goes over Cena for the US Title.
 
Having John Cena drop the US Title before SummerSlam would be dumb. Especially if it's from interference thanks to Rollins. The US Open Challenge has been built up so much it has to end with a clean win to somebody for the major rub. Also, the entire point of the Cena/Rollins feud is "who is the better champion?" so it needs to be champion vs. champion for the World Title at SummerSlam.

Here's what will probably happen. Cena has beaten Rollins to defend his US Title, which means that Rollins will probably beat Cena to defend his World Title, because the WWE loves 50/50 booking. Then at Night of Champions, will will fittingly get a Double Championship Match. John Cena vs. Seth Rollins with both Titles on the line. Something's gotta give. Cena goes over to win the World Title, but Sheamus cashes in MITB to steal it. So Sheamus walks out of Night of Champions the new World Champion, and Cena is still the US Champion.

There's no way John Cena becomes a 16x world champion to be spoiled by a cash-in. When Cena eventually gets there it'll be a clean win probably at WM with streamers balloons and the whole nine yards. As much as I don't want to believe it's going to be a champion vs. champion match at SummerSlam it just doesn't make sense. The show is 4 hours and you have 2 titles in one match? You need everything you can to fill 4 hours.
 
I'm hoping that Cena works through this, and knowing his history, I bet he will. I hope he pulls through, because I believe that WWE has big plans to end Cena's reign as US Champion, and I would hate to see it derailed by injury. I believe the angle is best resolved at SummerSlam.

My counter angle; protect Cena from working long matches between now and SummerSlam, all the while hyping Cena vs Rollins for the WWE at the PPV itself. In a match akin to the RAW main event quality, Rollins retains, cleanly! This would act as a major staple for Seth Rollins, who despite complaints by us fans, is a character who's arc currently has him desperately seeking decisive victories. He's had one against Ambrose, but this would be huge for Rollins, the character.

Rollins exits, and Kevin Owens comes out. Owens himself has had a match with Cesaro, but is a few hours removed from the contest. Owens asks what's happening with the US Open Challenge? "C'mon, John. I know your nose is broken, but what happened to 'Never give up! Never surrender'? " Ultimately, Cena, the stubborn superhero that he is, is goaded into defending the US Title by Owens' mocking, and Owens wins the title in the impromptu main event of SummerSlam.

This in turn acts as a vital moment in the Cena character's arc. The man ends up being undone by his own mantra and raison d'etre, and leaves SummerSlam with nothing.
 
I'm hoping that Cena works through this, and knowing his history, I bet he will. I hope he pulls through, because I believe that WWE has big plans to end Cena's reign as US Champion, and I would hate to see it derailed by injury. I believe the angle is best resolved at SummerSlam.

My counter angle; protect Cena from working long matches between now and SummerSlam, all the while hyping Cena vs Rollins for the WWE at the PPV itself. In a match akin to the RAW main event quality, Rollins retains, cleanly! This would act as a major staple for Seth Rollins, who despite complaints by us fans, is a character who's arc currently has him desperately seeking decisive victories. He's had one against Ambrose, but this would be huge for Rollins, the character.

Rollins exits, and Kevin Owens comes out. Owens himself has had a match with Cesaro, but is a few hours removed from the contest. Owens asks what's happening with the US Open Challenge? "C'mon, John. I know your nose is broken, but what happened to 'Never give up! Never surrender'? " Ultimately, Cena, the stubborn superhero that he is, is goaded into defending the US Title by Owens' mocking, and Owens wins the title in the impromptu main event of SummerSlam.

This in turn acts as a vital moment in the Cena character's arc. The man ends up being undone by his own mantra and raison d'etre, and leaves SummerSlam with nothing.

I would not be the least bit upset with this outcome, I love it. Seth gets a great moment, Kevin Owens only looks more ruthless. And who knows *fingers crossed* maybe John comes out the next night on Raw cuts a promo about how the future is starting to get through him he had it all a shot at the world title and the U.S. Title and lost it in one night and starts a heel faction nWo style to kill the youth movement. John Cena, Randy Orton and whoever else big show? Christian? Mark Henry? Idk someone with a reputation.
 
There's no way John Cena becomes a 16x world champion to be spoiled by a cash-in. When Cena eventually gets there it'll be a clean win probably at WM with streamers balloons and the whole nine yards. As much as I don't want to believe it's going to be a champion vs. champion match at SummerSlam it just doesn't make sense. The show is 4 hours and you have 2 titles in one match? You need everything you can to fill 4 hours.

Owens vs. Cesaro is happening at SummerSlam regardless of if it's for the US Title or not. So having Cena drop the US Title to one of them doesn't add anything to the length of the show.

And again, the entire point of the Rollins/Cena angle is for it to be the two champions fighting it out, therefore they both need to be holding belts. The premise of the storyline is based around them both being champions.

And the point about Cena winning his 16th World Title is also irrelevant. Having Sheamus spoil the huge moment with a cash-in would just serve to put heat on him, especially if Cena tying Flair's Championship record is part of the build-up to Night of Champions. Have Flair at ring side during the match. He also holds the record for the most US Title reigns so having him ringside for the World Champion vs. US Champion match at Night of Champions is absolutely perfect. He raises Cena's hand after the win and gets fucking Brogue Kicked by Sheamus. Even more heat.
 
OWENS SHOULD BE U.S CHAMP, BUT not yet. Soon, very soon.

Owens is still wanting to defeat Cena. He had his promo talking about why he tapped, and how he pushed Cena to his limit and Owens only tapped for his family. Its a good story. Sooooo I would book it that Cesaro beats Owens and Owens gets Cena to lose at Summerslam against Seth.

This works beautifully.

1. Cesaro gets the win, he needs it more than Owens
2. Owens doesn't look bad for losing if he costs Cena the match. Cena vs Owens at night of champions for the belt (Owens wins, which can lead to another Cesaro vs Owens match down the road but we would also get Cena vs Owens the rematch. This is so far a 5 star feud. Company needs a top Feud again. Last match could be a last standing match. Owens Retains)
3. On the following Raw we will get your typical tag team main event. Cena and Cesaro vs Seth and Owens. Putting Owens and Cesaro in the main event of raw.
4. What about Seth? He hasnt had clean wins, which works well for him. His cocky and I enjoy it. But maybe the Authority doesn't. He never proved himself with Lesnar and once again with Cena. So whose up next? Thats hard to say. Its up in the air in my opinion. Im still waiting to see Triple H go against Seth, but I doubt it.
 
This idea really could've worked if the WWE decided not to push Kevin Owens out of the radar. WWE creative feels Kevin Owens isn't a MainEvent material (which is an asinine fact!!) that's the reason why they put him in the feud with another person they think the same about, Cesaro.

The storyline could've continued if Kevin never tapped out to Cena. And Kevin can never call out Cena by saying that "A Champion should never step down" because he had walked out of his match several times in the recent times.

The booking of Kevin Owens has drastically (rather more dramatically) dropped down from being Zeus to Hades. If the WWE could've capitalized, we would've been seeing the new US Champion right now.

Cheers!!
 
We gotta see how surgery on his nose goes before we can even think of him wrestling. He'll probably tough through it, because he's the toughest dude ever other than maybe Undertaker, but he's at a major risk of SERIOUS injury if he's not careful. Also, he's really starting to break into movies, now. Smaller parts, sure, but he's doing it far more credibly than Hogan or even Rock did (Rock doing mostly action movies when he broke in, Cena is doing comedic turns to critical acclaim working with high quality talents instead of having to carry the propery). Cena's gotta think long term on this one.

As to the topic at hand, Cena has to go into Summerslam as the US Champion, and not leave with the world title. That moment should happen at Mania.
 
This idea really could've worked if the WWE decided not to push Kevin Owens out of the radar. WWE creative feels Kevin Owens isn't a MainEvent material (which is an asinine fact!!) that's the reason why they put him in the feud with another person they think the same about, Cesaro.

The storyline could've continued if Kevin never tapped out to Cena. And Kevin can never call out Cena by saying that "A Champion should never step down" because he had walked out of his match several times in the recent times.

The booking of Kevin Owens has drastically (rather more dramatically) dropped down from being Zeus to Hades. If the WWE could've capitalized, we would've been seeing the new US Champion right now.

Cheers!!

I've said this on another thread but seems to need repeating. KO has been on the main roster for a matter of months, into a fued with the biggest name WWE has. Within these months the main event picture has been pretty much set leading up to the next big PPV.

Unless you put KO into the main event with no real explanation as to why he is there, there is no point. It's pretty obvious the guy has main event talent and can be a very good heel at main event level, but let a story develop for the guy rather than just forcing him into it.

The countless times on these forums that the US title is perceived as a mid-card title, at what point in his main roster career has KO ever been in the main event???
 
The injury gives super Cena a legit excuse to lose the U.S. Open.

The U.S. Open? I never knew Cena played golf. :)

As to the rest of it, who can really say? If WWE Creative wants to incorporate Cena's broken nose into the proceedings at Summerslam, they'd have to change the entire existing storyline to do so, no?

Yes, if Brock isn't involved in a world title shot at the event, it's possible Cena will be, but management presumably had already mapped out how it's all going to go, and wouldn't have figured on a broken nose.

As to Cena fighting Kevin Owens and using the plotline detailed by a previous poster.....well, it's possible to use the broken nose as a factor; it wouldn't take much to switch things around to accommodate that; Vince McMahon has made more sweeping changes in the course of a single Raw show.

The more interesting question is whether KO and Cena are continuing their feud. I was surprised as hell to watch Cena win their rubber match and wondered if three matches would complete their program. Maybe not....and perhaps KO still wins the US title from Cena.

Finally, we should ask Cena if he thinks getting his nose mashed was a blessing in disguise.:disappointed:;)
 
I don't see him dropping the title before SummerSlam. As of right now, the two guys who have the most to gain from taking it are Cesaro and Owens, who look like they're heading towards a clash at SummerSlam. I don't see Cena winning the WWE WHC at SummerSlam and I think it likely that he'll hold onto the title until somewhere around HIAC, Survivor Series or TLC where I can see him dropping it to either Owens or Cesaro.
 
I strongly believe that SS should be Rollins (c) vs Cena for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. There's not much of a reason to add the US Title into the mix, because simply put, Rollins does not need the US Title what so ever. Hopefully creative makes the smart decision to have Rollins go over at SS because as much as this pains me to say, Cena needs to get his 16th Title Reign at WM32.

Cena needs to keep his title though going into SS to make himself look strong still, yes he could drop the title to Owens (hell Cesaro isn't a bad choice either) due to his broken nose, but if Owens is truly going to look strong after his feud with Cena then he needs to win clean at Night of Champions. Either against Cena on his own or have the Triple Threat with Owens vs Cesaro vs Cena.

To set this up it's quite simple, have Owens come out and fuck up Cena's match at SS and have him hand the win over to Rollins. Done, effective and quick. If the Triple Threat is how they would want to go, have Cesaro proclaim how much he has proved himself this past month, and have him face Cena and Owens a few times as well. Have Cesaro show his worthiness of the title shot, and make him the strong face going into NOC. He's been worthy for title shots for a long time now IMO.

Personally I can't see WWE capitalizing on Cena's nose.
 
Even without injury all I could see is Authority losing fate to Rollins since he tapped out to Cena yesterday and Sheamus cash in on Summerslam in the end. Seems like that is the story they will go.
 
I don't think the broken nose will have any impact on the storyline or plans the WWE originally had. It's not that big of a deal. If anything, Rollins could say something like "John, I thought you never gave up?" It would garner a lot of heat for Rollins, and Cena could quit being booked so strong for a while.
 
I'm fairly certain we'll just see the whole nose thing get thrown into a promo, "You can break my nose, but you can't break my spirit."

Something along those lines is sure to be said.

Cena likely will wear one of those protective masks we see athletes wear and WWE isn't going to have anyone target a legitimately broken nose like that. Especially not in this era of wrestling. If there's any chance at re-injury they aren't going to do it.
 
Summerslam being less than a month away , I doubt Cena will see much action in the next three shows...that looked like a bad break. Promos probably...but not much wrestling.
 
There's no way John Cena becomes a 16x world champion to be spoiled by a cash-in. When Cena eventually gets there it'll be a clean win probably at WM with streamers balloons and the whole nine yards. As much as I don't want to believe it's going to be a champion vs. champion match at SummerSlam it just doesn't make sense. The show is 4 hours and you have 2 titles in one match? You need everything you can to fill 4 hours.

They've been hyping Taker vs. Brock as the main event. You would think if something big like Cena tying Flair's record they'd want his match to close out the show.

I'm sure they'll play all the hype videos for every match, have a musical performer and longer matches to pass time.
 

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