You contradict yourself more and more in every post. What I have done is expressed an opinion. If you don't like that opinion, then you can choose not to agree with it. You have done that, so congratualtions. Because I don't like a name doesn't mean that it's a bad name. But it does weigh into why I didn't vote for them. This is my vote, after all. Not your's.
And where again did I state that you couldn't express your opinion on the band's sound? I never said that. What I said was that you should actually LISTEN to both bands before voting on the matter, as per the
rules of the entire tournament. Is it really so hard to listen to a band for a few minutes? Really? Can people not take the time out of posting bullshit in the Bar Room to listen to a band that was considered among the best of it's decade and just decide whether or not you liked it? If that's something you can't do, then just don't participate in the tournament. It's not an obligatory thing that you need to participate in.
Here is a prime example of you contradicting yourself. Just because you say that a name isn't important to a band, does that make it not important? No. It's all relative.
How is music relative? Sound waves are not a relative thing. A
name is not music. None of the criteria for this tournament asks you to judge bands based on their name.
And how am I contradicting myself? When did I ever say that the name of a band was important to it's quality? Really, where are you coming up with this stuff? Are we reading different posts?
Again, relative crap. What makes Toad the Wet Sprocket "the single stupidest name for a band ever"? Because you don't like the name? What makes Defiance, OH an "interesting" name? Again, this is all just your opinion, followed up by profanely bashing my opinions in order to get them to sound weaker.
You're right, it is my opinion. This thread is about Defiance, Ohio and Marilyn Manson, where you can give opinions on the bands. I think their name sounds interesting, and I brought up Toad the Wet Sprocket's name because it would be common knowledge among music listeners that their name is rather stupid. If you'd like I could honestly supply you with a couple of different magazines/websites that have printed articles on some of the stupidest band names in history, among which Toad the Wet Sprocket is always a high scorer. Do I really need to go out and take a poll to prove to you that a majority of human beings think that "Toad the Wet Sprocket" is an idiotic name?
Yeah, I like how you "disproved" my theory with some of the greatest research the world has ever seen. I'm sure that "99%" of all people thought that Toad the Wet Sprocket was a stupid name. You must have supernatural abilities that can help you poll the entire world in 20 seconds. You should be very proud of yourself.
Apparently you couldn't understand what I was saying. You stated that a name to a band is very important to it's success. I showed you the success of a band that a majority of people think have an absolutely ridiculious name. We were both stating our opinions on the matter, I don't understand how I contradicted myself.
It's relevant in that it gets the word out about the quality of the music. If a tree falls in a forest with no one around, does it make a sound? Even if it did, then no one would know because they were not there to experience it. Therefore, if the music isn't being heard, how can it be deemed "good"? How can it be deemed "music"?
...Are you high? Seriously, what's with the tree analogy? How is that even slightly relevant or helpful to this discussion, or what you're trying to compare it to? You're going into impossible questions to answer now. Shouldn't you start asking what's the meaning of life? Is there a God?
Again, it's relative, bra. To Susie down the street, Britney was probably the cat's pajamas in 1999. If you had her listen to both Britney and Jimmy, she would likely much rather listen to Britney. Why? Preference, dude. PREFERENCE. So to her, the quality of Britney's music is better. Jimmy would lose that one. My preference would be to listen to Jimmy and to burn every Britney Spears album within my parameter. But that's just MY opinion. Susie down the street from 1999 has the right to her opinion, too.
I understand that, and once again, I never said you couldn't state your preference in the matter. I was asking you to follow the rules of the tournament, or to not participate. Is that really such a terrible thing to ask?
Proved what wrong? All I read was this:
Yes, because obviously if someone elects to use curse words that immediately rebutes anything they have to say. I choose to curse in my posts because that is how I speak. Blame the area where I grew up.
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying the Sex Pistols was a bad band. I absolutely love the Sex Pistols, and have championed them many times before on this board. But they didn't know how to play their instruments. This isn't a matter of preference, this is simply a fact. Have you ever seen a live performance by the band? They honestly
did not know how to play their instruments, and the band members have freely admitted this at times. They were simply strewn together because of the look and aesthetic feel to the "punk rock" look that the bands hand.
You can't honestly be telling me it's a matter of preference as to whether or not someone was skilled at an instrument?
Good, I'm glad that you can find personal joy in "ripping on me."
I really don't even need to. You're obviously an intelligent poster, and yet you're arguing with me about whether a name is music and asking me hypothetical questions that no one can answer. What are you talking about? All I was saying in my previous posts was for you to follow the rules of the tournament. You admitted that you didn't. Case closed.
Apparently I don't know what "your definition of 'body of work' means." I like how this is relative also, and that because of your elitist perspective, you cannot understand that people define things differently.
How am I an elitist? I never once claimed that your opinion was lesser then mine in any way. And now you're debating with me the definition of words? Is this a joke? Are you seriously arguing with me that an artists "body of work" is anything other then their music? How does a musician express his art, or his "work"? Through his MUSIC obviously. Are you honestly debating me on that?
Was that with the tree analogy or the Suzy down the street rant?
I hope you do. You should also get the 99% of people that think Toad the Wet Sprocket is a bad name to make a fool out of me and subsequently laugh.
Sorry bud, but thats simply how the cookie crumbles. We here at Wrestlezone enjoy and bask in the verbal humiliation of others. It's simply the WZ way of life.
