5 Reasons why Mike Mizanin has what it takes...

[Fizzy]

Recently I was noticing allot of miz sucks signs in the crowds and noticed he was getting allot of heat, allot more then most people in the wwe. When I was watching wwf ppv's from 1997 I noticed the rock garnering allot of heat with the rocky sucks chants. Both of these guys have simmular mic skills. So do you see the miz as the next rock and do you see that his match vs dx as a lanch to make him into a bonadfied main eventer like he can be.

First of all work on your spelling. No not at all the Miz for one is not even close to the Rock's mic skill and their mic skills are similar but not close enough to where you can say their very alike. This match vs DX will not be monumental or anything it will simply be Triple H and Shawn winning. I will give you that the Miz has improved quite a bit but to say he is the next rock is completely stupid. The Rock was part of 3 of my favorite matches ever and Miz doesn't even have a special moment. Another reason the Miz does not have the look of a main eventer like the Rock did. So i will say their mic skills are sorta similar but nothing else is even close.

 

[JackAttack]

The Miz is an excellent rising young star, there's no doubt about that. However, I don't think he is going to be as big as the Rock. His mic skills are arguably better than Morrisons's, but are still spotty at times. He's a great heel, but I just don't think he has what it takes to draw as well as the Rock did. Keep in mind that the Rock had just as much charisma as Austin. Some posters have even gone as far as saying that if he had stayed in the WWE, he would have become the next Hulk Hogan, and for some reason I just don't see the same happening for the Miz. I have no doubts that he's got what it takes to be a main eventer, and his skills as a heel will only improve in time. But I definately don't think he will be the next Rocky.

As far as M&M's match with DX, you can bet that its outcome, whatever it is, won't affect anything. The WWE keeps reuniting DX as a last ditch way to get quick ratings, so I don't think this match will amount to much. It may very well be a great match, I just don't see anyone benefiting from it, especially when you factor in that DX probably won't lose.

Now even if the Miz ended up pulling off something unthinkable like pinning Triple H(I know that likely won't happen, but you never know), then it still may not help the Miz much unless the WWE chooses to make a big deal about it. In other words, it could help make him a bonafied main eventer if planned well and done right.

Unfortunately, DX has had many matches during 07 and 08, and I don't recall anyone greatly benefiting from them(My memories of early 07 are shady, so feel free to correct me).

 

[My$terio_Fan]

Yeah, I can see some similarities between The Rock & The Miz(both have good mic skills, both improved greatly)but The Miz doens't have the superstar vibe that Rock did. Miz get's heat but alot of it is because people just find him annoying and unbearable to watch. You never know, Miz could end up being the next big thing(People didn't think Rocky Maivia would have turned out to be one of the WWE's top stars)but I just don't see the level of charisma in Miz that the Rock had and I personally don't see Miz being that big.

 

[Marquis]

I can definitely see this happening maybe not now but as many have said he is still young you never know. One thing is for sure he grabs alot of heat he is probably the only reason M+M are considered a heel tag team. His mic skills are alright they can use some work i feel like he try's to hard on the mic but over time it will just become natural to him hopefully. As of now Morrison is probably all a round better but i know the miz has to the potential to surpass Morrison and actually become a great single competitor. As good as the rock? maybe you never know.

 

[salomon1080s]

I don't know if I see the next rock in him he is a very good heel and gets great heat. Since miz and morrison are being compared to DX i see some hhh in him. Morrison being some what of a goofy heel with a little crazier moveset like hbk and the miz is like a cool smart ass heel somewhat like hhh. I think the sky is the limit for these two.

 

[Mexican Geek]

As may of you guys said, you never know. I for one, absolutely despised The Miz when he started as a backstage character, a-la Todd Grisham. Sure, right now he isn't the most over guy in ECW, but his skills are improving show by show. If you think that he is being an asshole, unbearable to hear and watch, then I guess he is doing his work perfectly.

It's up to him to become a mega star. As anybody of the business, he has to be a "student" of the game, watch promos (Rock promos would be a great start...), practice finishers, practice and more practice. Eventually, the Miz (and morrison) will be a big superstar, he is 28, so there's plenty of time ahead.

 

[Crush1]

No, i dont think that The Miz is the next rock. But i do believe he's going to be a solid mid-card champion in the near future. You cant compare The Miz with The Rock because The Rock is the best there was and ever will be on the mic. But the skill that The Miz does has is to generate heat. He talks in such an anoying manner and tone you just want to head down to the ring and punch him in the face. And it proves that his mic skills work.

It seems like every IWC is talking about major improvements in The Miz lately, but they should have noticed it around the last year december in 2007. From that point The Miz improved already. Everybody hated him, not for his real world background but because of his gimmick, and thats good. Because he is a heel, he wants people to hate him. Thats why he's being pushed because we care.

You cant deny this fact, that without The Miz ECW wouldnt be as good as it is now.

 

[The Undercover Man]

Miz will never be the next Rock in my opinion, i get sick and tired of hearing the same references back to these young wrestlers like "this guy can be the next Rock" It just annoys me so much, these guys should be themselves and no one else. They should acheive what they want in the company and not feel pushed to be "the next Rock".

Even with The Miz sucks signs it does'nt mean to say he is going to be the next Rock does it? For all we know it could have been kids that had nothing better to do other then write "Miz sucks" signs. Miz is a huge talent, he has great mic skills and great in ring ability. Its possible he may even be better then The Rock in the in ring department. Even so i still don't think The Miz will ever reach the heights of the rock. The way he got the crowd sucked into everything and the way he would put on great matches.

Well with The Miz and Morrison, facing DX on Monday i can't really see them winning or gaining much from that. After all Triple H does'nt want to lose to the younger guys so i think DX are "safe". Even with The Miz and Morrison winning i can see a "huge push" coming from this. This match has only been booked because of RAW milestone

 

[shingi]

This is ridiculous The Miz can't even hold a candle to the rock anyone can be good on the mic but the rock was special no one can compare to that. I'm not just saying that because i'm am a huge rock mark but because it is true.

The rock was very good in the ring I cant really say the same for The Miz BUT I do think the Miz is one to look out for in the future.

 

[Mr. TM]

The Miz is a great talent, that is quite obvious to anyone who has been watching Wrestling in the last 13 years. He has more heat then his once upper mid card tag team partner. I can see The Miz overcoming John Morrison, and getting an ECW run. I would like to see him go over Matt Hardy. The Miz is good on the mic, but just needs to simplify himself. The Rock was not a complicated wrestler. He was a man who could make people boo while laughing. That is all he needs to do to be like the Rock.

 

[Pala!]

I used to hate The Miz, I didn't like him at all. Now, he has really grown on me and I agree Sgt. TM Canada Bowles he is getting a lot of heat. He is great on the microphone and good in the ring. He has really improved vastly over the past few months since he came to ECW. I would like to see him get a singles run in the future and a Miz Vs. Morrison feud for the ECW Championship would certainly be very good.

 

[woodson]

The Miz actually patterned himself after The Rock. When Mizanin appeared on Real World back in Season 10, he was constantly calling himself The Miz (an homage to Rock), imitating The Rock's voice and mannerisms and using The Rock's catchphrases. He even carried around a replica belt. This was all before he trained to wrestle. So, any similarities between Miz/Rock are with reason--Miz was a HUGE Rock fan. When I first saw Miz wrestle, I couldn't believe it--the kid from Real World using the gimmick from the show.

As far as being as big a talent/draw as The Rock--who knows? I do know that Miz has improved immensely since he debuted in WWE. Also, don't forget that Rocky Maivia was an initial flop. It took some rebranding for him to really catch fire as The Rock. All that being said, the WWE and wrestling fans alike would be lucky to find anyone of The Rock's caliber--Mizanin or otherwise.

 

[Big Sexy]

Comparing the Miz to The Rock is like comparing Darren Sproles to Barry Sanders. One is a legend and the other is just a solid performer. The Miz is not The Rock nor will he ever be The Rock. The Rock is a once in lifetime personality and performer. The Miz has improved but he will never be The Rock.

 

[OIL]

Don't worry about him being the next Rock, worry about him being The Miz. You can't recreate old superstars with new ones, everyone is different. The Miz is fine as he is, in a great tag team with John Morrison & I've heard both of them are in line for a major push onto the main event level, which they both deserve. They have both had a tremendous year, fantastic, great matches and The Dirt Sheet is quality. But back to the comparisons, they'll be different because in the ring they're different. Different style, and their gimmick is different, so, for that reason, no.. The Miz does not equal The Rock.

 

[truk24]

I'm not going to go to deep in to these waters, but I will say that The Miz is going to be a household name in the years to come. He isn't the Rock, but he is in a sense that the fans really do hate him, much like they hated Rocky Maivia. I don't know that the name "The Miz" will go over as well as the name "The Rock". That is something that I don't have time to explain as why that will be the case, but the nonetheless Michael Mizanin is going to be a bright star. I wish he would change his entrance music. Would be nice if he came out to "Fame" by David Bowie.

It would say a lot about his character breaking away, and idolizing himself, becomming "famous". The song would really tell his story possibly. No, it isn't heavy, but that is exactly why I would use it. This would clash with his current character, meaning he would undergo some sort of drastic character metamorphisis. Coming out of his cacoon, and spreading his wings into "fame". Remember now he was and still is the "chick magnet", which is something that the song would express in his character. Coming out with a parade of only the finest women in town lol.

This song was a huge hit when it came out. The type of lifestyle mocked was or is exactly the type of character Miz could work with. He has credit already, by being on two very different reality shows, and then there is wrestling. He has the exposure, adding to his "fame". Completely infatuated with himself, but on a much stronger, unique level than even Morrison. Completely undertaken in all of his fame a character like this would or should be something that would point in to the direction of change, which is what The Rock did overnight it seems.

 

[GameOver]

The fans hate him cause he sucks. plain and simple.
The fans hated Rock Maivia at the time cause he looked like a pussy and wasn't a bad ass like the rest of the guys in that era.

Soon as that changed and he got attitude, his reaction changed.

Miz has been round for 5 yrs now and nothing has changed, noone gave a shit about him when he first appeared on TV, and i doubt anyone really gives a shit about him now, if he wasn't teamed with Morrison and there was a Tag Division he'd be off TV.

 

[FromTheSouth]

I think the Miz is one of the most improved guys on the roster. He has a bigger moveset that most of the guys in that 230-260 range. He's not a cruiser, so expecting flips and shit out of him is unreasonable. He's built as a guy who uses leverage and ring smarts to get by, and since he's a heel, a little cheating as well. This is what he does. He uses every part of the ring as an asset, he is effective in his power moves, and he sells like a motherfucker.

What more does anyone want from him? No one actually thinks he is the Rock, but he is still more talented than he is made out to be.

On the mic, there are few better. The combination of he and Morrison is gold on the mic, and very good in the ring as a team. They exist as one of less that 8 tag teams on the entire roster. True, the Miz needed Morrison to get over, but to think that he wouldn't be a very solid mid card heel alone is preposterous. People boo him because he is a heel. People boo him because he is arrogant, he cheats, and is just an all around asshole.

He also seems loyal to the company. When a monster needs to reestablish himself after losing a feud, Miz is the first one in line to get squashed.

I do not see where people get off railing against him. I'm sorry that he was on the Real World. I'm sorry, Game Over, that he is more famous than your favorite wrestler. Amongst the 16-35 demographic, of the public at large, I promise he is one of the five most recognizable guys on the roster. I am willing to bet in a mall test, more people would recognize him than fan favorites like Rey Mysterio.

This anti-Miz bias is pissing me off. I am so very sorry that he parlayed a shit-TV career into a wrestling career. I'm so sorry that he is a champion and your little work rate heroes like Nigel McGuiness and, you know, that other ROH guy, can't even get on TV. Don't blame the Miz for that, he's a man doing a job, and doing it damn well.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Muthafuckin BUMPAGE! That's right, I said BUMP this shizzie.

Y'all are starting to come around!!! Go back to the start of the thread, and see who called this MONTHS ago. And then, read the comments from the naysayers.

Oh how the tides have turned. Mike Mizanin improves each and every week, hands down. He's a terrific in ring talent who still needs seasoning, but you'd be kidding me if you think he doesn't have a great deal ahead of him. His work with Morrison has been as strong a start as you'll get in a tag team, and his natural ability to be in front of a camera has propelled him to actually receiving some decent heat.

Couple that with the fact that he scored a clean, pinfall victory over CM Punk just weeks before Punk won the WHC, and you know that WWE is willing to put some steam behind him.

Bask in the greatness that is this thread, and own up to the fact that Mike Mizanin is still going to get better and better, and that the sky is the limit for him.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

I am pretty confident in saying that Mizanin is going nowhere, or, if he does go somewhere, then it will be a sad day for WWE, as it will show how desperate they have become. The only thing this guy has going for him is that he can be funny, at times. In wrestling, he pales in comparison to Morrison and, well, pretty much everyone else that is the same size as he is. If he can pull off another gimmick besides the one he currently has (which is getting staler by the minute), then I will find it as incredible as when he stopped sucking the teat of his Real World f(aux)ame to try out a career in wrestling.

 

[Marquis]

I am pretty confident in saying that Mizanin is going nowhere

I disagree

The only thing this guy has going for him is that he can be funny, at times.

Don't forget the heat he gets, you know the only the reason him and Morrison can pass for a heel tag team.

In wrestling, he pales in comparison to Morrison and, well, pretty much everyone else that is the same size as he is.

He doesn't pale in comparison to Morrison. Just different styles. Morrison wrestles like a ballerina while Miz wrestles like hes suppose to.

If he can pull off another gimmick besides the one he currently has (which is getting staler by the minute), then I will find it as incredible as when he stopped sucking the teat of his Real World f(aux)ame to try out a career in wrestling.

Nothing wrong with his gimmick. Hes getting booed, that's all that matters.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

I disagree

Nothing wrong with that.

Don't forget the heat he gets, you know the only the reason him and Morrison can pass for a heel tag team.

Whenever they get heat, it seems more like the fabled X-Pac heat than anything else. When they get heat comparable to Jericho or Vickie Guerrero, then I will believe that they will have done their job well.

He doesn't pale in comparison to Morrison. Just different styles. Morrison wrestles like a ballerina while Miz wrestles like hes suppose to.

So, what would Miz wrestle like? Please clarify when you get the chance, because I couldn't tell you how he wrestlers as he doesn't do anything particularly significant (in my opinion).

Nothing wrong with his gimmick. Hes getting booed, that's all that matters.

These two play like rich WASP fraternity villains in a Van Wilder movie. While it can be funny in a particular context, it fails in others and can be tiresome if overdone. And, when it is overdone, while they may get heat, it will be akin to the X-Pac variety (i.e., I am booing you because I want you out of the effin' ring and back where you came from).

 

[Crush1]

The Miz rules and the avarage fan knows it but they just cant get over the fact that just because Miz was in a reality tv show. But hey if you dislike Miz it means he's doing his job right. Face it this guy is a heat magnet, Everything about him is just so anoying it's hard not to hate his stupid moves, haircut and gimmick.

I'm actualy happy that there are a lot of Miz haters out there because it means he's proving the negative IWC wrong by being succesfull in being a heel. And by the way when did you EVER see the Miz sell something that wasnt pure gold, or ever work a bad match hmm? well i can tell you in 1 and a half year i haven't.

This guy is loyal a good worker and is dedicated and happy to be a wrestler. Whereas the other guys complain all the time, the Miz happily jobs to Triple H or takes a lot of bumps to put someone like Mysterio over. The Miz is a succes story and he will be the future of the company someday.

 

[Marquis]

Whenever they get heat, it seems more like the fabled X-Pac heat than anything else. When they get heat comparable to Jericho or Vickie Guerrero, then I will believe that they will have done their job well.

They don't get booed that loud. Nor do i hear to many chants. In fact i can't even recall a recent chant against them. If anything Vickie heat can be compared to X-Pac heat. I doubt their as hated as you seem to think they are, since you know their show the dirt sheet is supposedly the most viewed show on wwe.com.

So, what would Miz wrestle like? Please clarify when you get the chance, because I couldn't tell you how he wrestlers as he doesn't do anything particularly significant (in my opinion).

Well since you said Miz pales in comparison to Morrison in wrestling i assume your standard of significant would be something along the lines of how Morrison wrestles? Ether way Miz wrestles brawler/heel style. beatdowns,prolonged locks,underhanded tactics. Nothing fancy since its not in his character.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

They don't get booed that loud. Nor do i hear to many chants. In fact i can't even recall a recent chant against them. If anything Vickie heat can be compared to X-Pac heat. I doubt their as hated as you seem to think they are, since you know their show the dirt sheet is supposedly the most viewed show on wwe.com.

You could make a case that Vickie gets X-Pac heat. But, I think that people would relish the chance to see her get beat or upstaged in some manner (people were pretty happy at the Royal Rumble when her interference in the Jeff Hardy/Edge match was thwarted). As for The Miz and Morrison, I just think people would cheer if they left the ring in any manner, whether it be because they get chased backstage or have their asses handed to them and leave quickly. But, yes, I will concede the fact that they are not nearly as booed as much as someone with true X-Pac heat is booed. However, given how much some people hype them as heels, they are not getting as much heat as they should be, whether it be real or X-Pac heat.

Well since you said Miz pales in comparison to Morrison in wrestling i assume your standard of significant would be something along the lines of how Morrison wrestles? Ether way Miz wrestles brawler/heel style. beatdowns,prolonged locks,underhanded tactics. Nothing fancy since its not in his character.

As I said in my previous posts, The Miz can be quite funny at times. And, he is undoubtedly better on the mic than John Morrison. However, even if he has become a better wrestler, there is still a lot of room left for improvement. This is not to say that he isn't capable of becoming a great wrestler, but he is far from one at the moment, even when considering the style that fits his character the best (brawler style, as you say) is less exciting and fancy than other styles. Furthermore, given that he is a reality star who notoriously milked his stardom from The Real World for all it was worth, The Miz must become extremely impressive in the ring if he is to be taken seriously as a true main-eventer/upper-midcarder.

 

[Marquis]

Boy, way to change your tune huh?

You could make a case that Vickie gets X-Pac heat. But, I think that people would relish the chance to see her get beat or upstaged in some manner (people were pretty happy at the Royal Rumble when her interference in the Jeff Hardy/Edge match was thwarted). As for The Miz and Morrison, I just think people would cheer if they left the ring in any manner, whether it be because they get chased backstage or have their asses handed to them and leave quickly. But, yes, I will concede the fact that they are not nearly as booed as much as someone with true X-Pac heat is booed. However, given how much some people hype them as heels, they are not getting as much heat as they should be, whether it be real or X-Pac heat.

If they are not getting enough heat as they should be, its no one but Morrisons fault. The Miz gets the shit booed out of him, FACT. While Morrison does not. Also don't you think if they weren't getting enough heat as they should be thus making them failures of heels, the WWE would not throw another title reign their way and keep them as heels?

As I said in my previous posts, The Miz can be quite funny at times. And, he is undoubtedly better on the mic than John Morrison. However, even if he has become a better wrestler, there is still a lot of room left for improvement. This is not to say that he isn't capable of becoming a great wrestler, but he is far from one at the moment, even when considering the style that fits his character the best (brawler style, as you say) is less exciting and fancy than other styles. Furthermore, given that he is a reality star who notoriously milked his stardom from The Real World for all it was worth, The Miz must become extremely impressive in the ring if he is to be taken seriously as a true main-eventer/upper-midcarder.

Complete contradiction of your first post in this thread, and no he does not need to be become extremely impressive in the ring to be successful. Tons of superstars have gone on to have great careers without becoming "extremely impressive" in the ring.