5 Reasons why Mike Mizanin has what it takes...

[IrishCanadian25]

For all of you "Miz" haters out there, I'm here to show you the err of your ways. I not only feel that Mike Mizanin deserves the benefit of your doubts, but that he is also a top young start in ECW / SD and has a future with a lot of gold in it.

1. Mike Mizanin has a good look. He's 6'1 and 220 lbs. So he isn't huge, but he's got an athletic look to him. Chris Jericho is 6'0 and 231. Jeff Hardy is 6'1 and 225. Mike doesn't have a ton of weight on him to wear down his bones or ligaments, he's not much of an injury risk, and he certainly not a steroid risk from a PR standpoint.

2. Mike Mizanin is strong on the mic. While he's yet to cut that "landmark promo" he has been strong in some spots. Still work to be done, but let's face it - he's no stranger to using his mouth to start crap. He did it on Real World vs Road Rules Challenge, often cutting Rock-style promos before big challenges. Once in the right feud he'll be able to take the mic and make it happen.

3. Mike Mizanin is over with the fans. He was voted over John Morrison and Big Daddy V at Cyber Sunday to face CM Punk for the ECW Title. Morrison was a former champ and had heat with Punk. Big Daddy V was working a program with Punk at that time. But Morrison was chosen because fans wanted some fresh meat in there, and that's what they got.

4. Mike Mizanin has performed in big spots. I again reference Cyber Sunday. He rose to the occassion in his ECW Title match against Punk and worked a strong match. He sold well and hit his spots, especially being a rookie in a spot of uncertainty (not knowing IF he'd even wrestle that night) which is something I was shocked WWE would do at a live PPV.

5. Mike Mizanin is starting out like all of the greats. I've said it before - tag team gold is the proving ground for future stars. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Steve Austin, Sting, Edge, Batista- all were tag champs before making it as huge singles stars. Even John Morrison was a multi-time tag champ with Joey Mercury before breaking out and winning Intercontinental Gold and eventually the ECW Title.

Face it, wrestling fans. You're looking at a part of the future.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

You know, as much as I classify the Miz as "the dipshit", I do have to admit that he's improved drastically even in the past 2 months. His run with Morrison as tag champs has really impressed me a lot. Now, I don't think he's worthy of the midcard titles yet (and certainly not the ECW/WHC/WWE titles, by consequence) I do think he should be considered a viable contender for the United States belt once Matt takes it away from MVP and MVP moves up to the main event status.

The way I see it, The Miz is one of the many guys that the WWE has right now that is just getting better and better, and unless they screw it up, they can be utilized very well. He still looks like a douche, lol, but while I used to hate seeing the guy, I actually kind of look forward to his matches now - though I think being teamed up with Morrison is a bit of a step down for JM and I'd rather see Morrison move up to the main event, but that's not the subject in this thread. The Miz, I feel, could do a great job as the mouth of a tag team if he was teamed up with a brute like Knox or something. Either way, if he keeps improving like he has, I can't really judge the Miz negatively.

 

[Shadowmancer]

For all of you "Miz" haters out there, I'm here to show you the err of your ways. I not only feel that Mike Mizanin deserves the benefit of your doubts, but that he is also a top young start in ECW / SD and has a future with a lot of gold in it.

And Il show you the other side, he is Crap. There is no other way to put it. His heat isn't of his causing. People don't like him. He will get x-pac heat for his entire career.

1. Mike Mizanin has a good look. He's 6'1 and 220 lbs. So he isn't huge, but he's got an athletic look to him. Chris Jericho is 6'0 and 231. Jeff Hardy is 6'1 and 225. Mike doesn't have a ton of weight on him to wear down his bones or ligaments, he's not much of an injury risk, and he certainly not a steroid risk from a PR standpoint.

Good look, so a Faux hawk is a good look, Looking like a gimp is a good look? The fedorra, who does he think he is Tim Armstrong. Fine he may have the look of a Jericho/Hardy. but that doesn't mean that they will push him.

2. Mike Mizanin is strong on the mic. While he's yet to cut that "landmark promo" he has been strong in some spots. Still work to be done, but let's face it - he's no stranger to using his mouth to start crap. He did it on Real World vs Road Rules Challenge, often cutting Rock-style promos before big challenges. Once in the right feud he'll be able to take the mic and make it happen.

You do realise the only thing more scripted than Pro Wrestling is reality TV. It was all written by Writers and given numerous takes to get right, so that is no indication of mic skills. He can't cut a proper promo, by building up the opponent to make him a credible threat to him, therefore making his loses worse by making it seem that he is losing to a Jabroni.

3. Mike Mizanin is over with the fans. He was voted over John Morrison and Big Daddy V at Cyber Sunday to face CM Punk for the ECW Title. Morrison was a former champ and had heat with Punk. Big Daddy V was working a program with Punk at that time. But Morrison was chosen because fans wanted some fresh meat in there, and that's what they got.

He was voted in not because he was popular with the Fans but because the fans wanted to see CM Punk retain and it made sense to feed the Miz to CM Punk so CM Punk wouldn't lose the title to either Big Daddy V or John Morrison.

4. Mike Mizanin has performed in big spots. I again reference Cyber Sunday. He rose to the occassion in his ECW Title match against Punk and worked a strong match. He sold well and hit his spots, especially being a rookie in a spot of uncertainty (not knowing IF he'd even wrestle that night) which is something I was shocked WWE would do at a live PPV.

There is a thing called vote rigging and they also knew ahead of schedule who was ahead on the voting so that would mean he would be either prepared or getting prepared for the match. And I would hardly call Cyber Sunday a Big Spot. they were in the midcard of a B PPV. Hardly a big spot. You have to get your PPV debut at some stage.

5. Mike Mizanin is starting out like all of the greats. I've said it before - tag team gold is the proving ground for future stars. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Steve Austin, Sting, Edge, Batista- all were tag champs before making it as huge singles stars. Even John Morrison was a multi-time tag champ with Joey Mercury before breaking out and winning Intercontinental Gold and eventually the ECW Title.

And then you look at a list of others that weren't tag teamers to the extent of all of these guys. Triple H, Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Macho Man Randy Savage. Winning Tag Team gold to start with does not mean that you will become a good singles Wrestler it means exactly what it means that you may be a good Tag Team Wrestler.

Face it, wrestling fans. You're looking at a part of the future.

I don't think so, The Miz is crap and will always be crap because he has shown no signs of improvement, getting involved in matches doesn't mean you have improved it just means that you are booked in them.

 

[Novakane487]

Miz can be the next Cena because he is just such an easy guy to hate. I think Cena and Miz need to be heels for life though because its what they are good at. The one guy who was giving reasons on why Miz sucks just proves the point that he is doing his job well. You aren't supposed to like him. You are supposed to think he is a dip-shit or else he wouldn't be a good heel. There is a difference between hating a wrestler and not respecting a wrestler. If you hate a wrestler then you will watch the shows hoping someone will beat his ass. Thats a good thing because it draws in ratings. Miz seems like the kind of guy that can just get under your skin and make you wish terrible things upon him. If the fans didn't respect him then they wouldn't take the time to boo him and chant "you suck". The heat he gets is good because its similar to the heat Cena got at ECW One Night Stand. Most of the people bought tickets and ordered the PPV to see him get his ass handed to him. I'm not sayin he is gonna be the face of WWE but he can be a good heel for a while.

 

[greer44644]

yeah right the miz will always be a lowcarder and just because he has tag tem gold dose not mean that he's the future. What about hhh he did not have tag team gold. what about the rock (the great one) he did not have tag team gold untill the end. and yeah he looks nothing like a wrestler he's nothing more that a jobber so buddy keep dreaming about the miz. Or maybe u want the girls he hangs out with. and one more thing JOHN MORRISON is not a great superstar

 

[bowlinbing]

There is a reason JBL and the fans crap on The Miz. He's not that good. When he was on Smackdown he was green, no one knew what to expect, they used him as the friggin Host for a few months. Miz pretty much has not been able to escape his 'X-Pac heat'(it's not that he says anything nasty, we just think he sucks) Yes, he's improving in the ring, and if they had ECW when he started... oh wait, they called that Velocity. As for fans voting for him at Cyber Sunday... I repeatedly voted for him instead of Morrison because I personally couldn't see WWE taking the belt off of Punk in favor of Miz, Simple as that. He has a chance if he can find a good feud, I love Balls Mahoney, but for Miz that was not the feud he needed, to elevate, but he needs to prove he can carry people, not the other way around.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

So let me get this straight. Fans voted for Mike Mizanin because they felt it was their duty to protect Punk's Title? I just do not buy that. I think a fan will give a heel champion a tough opponent in hopes they will lose the belt, but I don't think fans would give a face champion a creampuff to preserve it.

Honestly, I feel the fans chose Mizanin because he's a fresh face. I mean, Big Daddy V is pretty boring and formulaic and nobody, myself included, wanted to see him face Punk. A rematch with Morrison would have been fine, but fans figured they'd get that match eventually anyway. Plus, they'd seen it. I truly feel fans wanted to see what Mizanin could do, and when that happened, I was impressed.

Yes, they started Miz as a "host" while getting him ready to wrestle. And John "Johnny Nitro" Morrison was Jonathan Coachman's lackey on Raw for months! He turned out fine. Sometimes the TV exposure prior to the "big matches" is good for fans (they get slow, controlled exposure to a new wrestler) and the wrestler (they get to work their way in and dictate their character based on fan reaction).

As for Greer44644, I am not entirely certain what that non-sensical post was set to acheive, but I'll play along. Sure, lots of guys made it big without being tag champions, but you cannot argue with the laundry list of guys who started in the tag ranks and went on to singles success. When I was at the Smackdown / ECW house show last week I watched Miz work 70% of a tag match against Jesse and Festus, and do DAMN well for himself. He's learning faster than many others I've seen.

Finally, I come to JBL. Layfield is a hypocrite. He buries Mizanin when he commentates, but then he has the gall to play the "veteran card" backstage and go off on Morrison and Miz for cutting a promo not putting CM Punk over. He's a bully. But Miz apologized to him, said he'd work to get better, while Morrison spewed back and almost got into a fist fight.

A HUGE reason I feel Mizanin is a future star is his attitude. He has wanted to be a pro wrestler his whole life, and he is handling himself well. If he gets in with a veteran like Tommy Dreamer or Matt Hardy for guidance, he'll show up on PPV cards in title matches for a few years. I'm not predicting him as a future World Champion, but keep an eye on him for lots of tag team, US, Intercontinental, or even ECW Title reigns. He could also carry the Cruiserweight Division if they bring it back.

 

[noone911]

Let's get one thing straight here. I hate the miz, the wrestler not the man, i don't know him. Now for those who say "oh he's a heel you're supposed to hate him" fine, but I hate him in the way that he doesn't entertain me and I will change the channel if he is on. I don't buy PPVs, but if he were the headliner I certainly wouldn't even consider it.

Good job to him for scoring jobs from reality shows and doing what he wants to do. But he's just not that good or entertaining.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

So let me get this straight. Fans voted for Mike Mizanin because they felt it was their duty to protect Punk's Title? I just do not buy that. I think a fan will give a heel champion a tough opponent in hopes they will lose the belt, but I don't think fans would give a face champion a creampuff to preserve it.

I spent the Saturday before Cyber Sunday voting for The Miz. And I've heard people elsewear say the same. They knew that Punk might possibly lose the title were he to face Morrison or Viscera. So they voted for The Miz. I don't think that is so far fetched.

The Miz sucks by the way. He's terrible. He hasn't made any improvement in the past few years. Sure he has charisma. But it's that annoying charisma. He also isn't composed when he talks on the mic. He's likley to slip up at any second. The Miz on the mic is like Khali in the ring. You can see them both thinking ''What do I say/do next?''

 

[Rusty]

While the Miz mic skills arent 2 gd, his ring skills have improved in the past year.

I think working with Morrison is a good thing for the Miz as I think they are so alike(personalities).

But the Miz has proved he can put on good single matches and remember there isnt many options on ECW so he is doing great IMO on WWE's third rate show.

 

[chasingamy]

OK, so I've read all the posts and there were good points for both sides. I don't really have any 'reasons' to add but just wanted to share these thoughts.

1. If the Miz remains on the ECW brand he will never have the chance to achieve the greatness of a Rock, Austin, or HBK. I'm sorry but there just isn't anything 'great' about the ECW brand as it is today.

2. He's currently being overshadowed by John Morrison. Sure the Miz has improved, but his in-ring skills just aren't that memorable.

 

[KyleCobra]

For one..i dont understand how some of you have said..

that the fans fed Miz to Punk..and in the same sentence go on to say the voting is rigged...which is it?...no need to rig the voting if they already know what the are going for..right?

And i cant recall any botched spots from him. Not a single one. Now im sure there are some, but obviously not noticable for me to remember. Granted he isnt phenomanal in the ring. But he is well rounded.

You have Morrison who botches at least twice every match, no exaggeration. Yes Morrison goes for the riskier spots, but even if he didnt how good would he be..we dont know becuase thats all we see from him.

wher as Miz may be a little less risky, but so much more solid. Doesnt go above and beyond, but i have a feeling that if need be that he could deliver some more extravagent spots.

He'll never be The Rock on the mic. He'll never be Bret Hart in the ring.

But someone who at this early stage of their career is decent and better than i'd say 1/3 of the roster..not bad.

How far will he go i cant say. But the right angle at the right time and i think something could happen.

 

[Mike1517r]

I have always been a supporter of the Miz dating back to tough enough. Everybody rags on him but he is still around unlike most tough enough guys, he has proven enough to WWE to get one half of the tag team titles. Now i dont think he will ever be a main eventer, but i think he will be around for a while and eventually get upper mid-card status, basically Intercontinental Championship/US Title good. Most stars dont start out on the top, and everyone has to work there way up, The Miz may not be the best, but he is not horrible either. I think he will be around for a while and eventually taste singles gold.

 

[kieran_devlin]

Oh GOD Miz should not be a wrestler okay a really good heel manager and the fact he can do a little wretling i mean little is a bonus for being a manager.

He has no SKILL, VERY BAD CHARACTER, VERY BAD MIC SKILLS and NO CHARISMA.

Sure hes annoying which is what a good heel manager should be like but its the annoying were you want to hate him you want to see him get beat every week that a heel needs. OR the heel youi can respect but dislike so you enjoy his matches but hate his character.

He is just annoying change the channel over annoying, too many wwe heels are like that!

 

[Y 2 Jake]

You can't honestly say he has no charisma? Really? He has plently of charisma. Sure it's that annoying, wanna kick his fucking face in charisma,. But he still has plenty of it. It's better than him being bland, like oh say John Morrison. The Miz sucks, but at least he can emote on occasion.

 

[Capt. Charisma]

The Miz is good because his character is like Coach's, he is such a loser, but he thinks he's cool = a complete heat magnet.

In ring he aint too bad, not the best obviously, but there is a place for him in the lower/mid-card I feel. If I was looking to cut back guys, I would probably keep him just for the fact he is such a heel.

I have an decent idea for him, once Edge is done with the edgeheads Miz can allign with them and have a goofy stable. Like Edge/Christian/Angle it would be quite funny I reckon.

But no he aint as bad as people make out, I think he's improved a little over the last 12 months, what you have to remember when he first started he was getting carried by the likes of Undertaker, Booker T, and Benoit. Now he is wrestling on ECW and putting on slightly better matches.

One reason I think people don't like him, is because WWE always involve him in lame finishes to matches. Which after week, after week of it people start to assosiate with him.

So he does have potential, but not bags of it like Shelton, Punk, or even Morrison.

 

[JohnnyWrestledude]

Ok first off, I think Irishcanadian25 said it all in the first post.

My post is to ask all the people in this thread that hate the Miz why? I know..he's annoying. Does that make him bad on the mic? IMO that makes him effective. His terrible ring skills? I think it was KyleCobra that said "I can't recall any botched spots from him.." I have to agree. I don't either.

So again, I'd like to ask all the haters for some clarity and explain what part of his character, athletic skills etc. do you hate?

P.S. I'm not a big fan, I just think he does have potential.

 

[Sicko]

I hate the fact that people don't want to give him a chance and take him serious because he was on the Real World, I have been very impressed with him, he is outstanding on the mic already, has some nice moves in the ring and continue to improve I think he has a great future

 

[White_Machismo]

JOHN MORRISON is not a great superstar

I Agree with everything about miz bro but you would have to be blind to see that morrison isnt a damn good superstar and will be great oneday. That dude has more talent then the whole ECW locker room combined. (with the exception of Shelton, Cuz NO ONE has more raw talent then him)

 

[Markie C]

Miz and Morrisons dirt sheet is hilarious, specially the Miz. Morrison does his deep voice thing, but he does do a bit of comedy, but the Miz just makes me laugh, he's so jokes. Their both great wrestlers too, apart from Shelton Benjamin their the two most promising stars on ECW.

 

[Cage917r]

I wouldn't go as far as to say he is a future superstar, but i think he can be a solid midcarder for many more years. He has great charisma, and is decent in the ring, that fact is that the gimmick he currently has will never result in him being a World Champion, but i would have to say his tag title run with Morrison has been one of the more entertaining and better runs over the past couple years. He may not be a superstar, but is not as bad as some people say.

 

[mister_e]

im sorry but this man jus duz not look like a wrestler i cant take it seriously wen he beats anyone. if he was to make he needs more credability but i jus dnt think he has it its fair to say as soon as wwe gets rids of him and rather sooner than later ill definately be saying

HOORAH!!!

 

[Gelgarin]

I always believe that it is rather telling that the people who accuse Mizanin of ‘having no charisma’, are the same people who will go to the walls to defend the mic skills of personality black holes such as… say… Shelton Benjamin. I’d most likely attribute this to the unfortunately prevalent assumption that ‘how much you like someone’ directly correlates to there ability (both inside the ring and out of it), but if I really wanted to go Freudian regarding the situation I’d suggest that everyone here wants to nail their own mother; then add that I suspect the reason we of the IWC so vehemently denounce his ability is simply that his reality TV gimmick draws heat from us, but we of the IWC don’t like to admit that we’re being worked (a lot of us seem to think being worked is somehow negative, rep to anyone who can explain why) so people strive for another reason to dislike him.

Now, I’m British, and as such never saw any of this reality TV stuff and had never heard of The Miz until I first saw him working a match, so I suppose you could call me Mr. Objectivity (or at least you could if I had a different surname) regarding the issue; and my conclusion regarding Mizanin is a solid “meh”. Outside of the ring he’s good; strong charisma, solid delivery and a fantastic inherent ability to draw heat from the crowd just by standing still in a dark room. Inside of the ring… he’s ok. I don’t think I can actually conjure up a single memory of him doing anything particularly badly or particularly well; he’s solid. If I’m honest I don’t see him ever advancing above the midcard, floundering around the cruiserweight division when they inevitably bring it back or possibly packaged into another rushed tag team when they next decide to push Morrison. I’m quite open to the idea of him proving my wrong, but right now I don’t see it happening.

 

[elijah ecw express]

I once said to a friend this past summer "The Miz can drink my Jiz." But since then, I have slowly realized that he has some skill and that my hate should be focused on Cena, Batista, Snitsky, Hass, Chavo, Kozlov, Finlay's *****fication, and Mike Adamle's commentating ability or lack thereof. The Miz and John Morrison have been great tag team champions, and are in probably in line for a long run. I was even mad when shannon moore beat him this past friday. He is decent on the mic, and he won more respect from me when on commentary on tuesday with this piece of dialogue.

Miz: Jimmy Wang Wang
Tazz: Actually, I believe its Jimmy Wang Yang
Miz: What? Adamle can make mistakes!

The only reason why I never used to like the guy, was because if there's one thing on this Earth that I hate, it's the Real World/ other pussy Orange County reality shows. But, i'm glad to see that The Miz has beat the 1000/1 odds and has moved past that to earn any credibility.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

I once said to a friend this past summer "The Miz can drink my Jiz."

I bet it wasn't funny then, either.

But since then, I have slowly realized that he has some skill and that my hate should be focused on Cena, Batista, Snitsky, Hass, Chavo, Kozlov, Finlay's *****fication, and Mike Adamle's commentating ability or lack thereof.

Why hate at all? Is it necessary? Cena helps carry the company and makes them a FORTUNE because he is so marketable to kids. Batista is in his 40's, came into the game late, and has been a natural learner. Snitsky - when was the last time anyone saw him, anyway? Hass- ok...not sure why, he doesn't do anything. Chavo - he's been one of ECW's only consistent performers. Kozlov - are you angered by dark matches? Finlay - agreed. Adamle - give him some time.

The Miz and John Morrison have been great tag team champions, and are in probably in line for a long run. I was even mad when shannon moore beat him this past friday. He is decent on the mic, and he won more respect from me when on commentary on tuesday with this piece of dialogue.

Miz: Jimmy Wang Wang
Tazz: Actually, I believe its Jimmy Wang Yang
Miz: What? Adamle can make mistakes!

The only reason why I never used to like the guy, was because if there's one thing on this Earth that I hate, it's the Real World/ other pussy Orange County reality shows. But, i'm glad to see that The Miz has beat the 1000/1 odds and has moved past that to earn any credibility.

Well, I am glad you got past your hatred of what wrestlers do prior to becoming wrestlers and focused your attention on the skills of an up-and-comer. And I actually should thank you for keeping this thread alive. But if nothing else, the Real World is the only reason he is here. I watched the Real World vs Road Rules challenges with my sisters (our bonding time) and watched Miz's athleticism and leadership at work, as well as his promo cutting ability. Real World was for Miz what Tough Enough was for Maven, Capotelli, and Morrison.

I'd await a response, but given the line in your name I will not hold my breath. But keep watching the Miz, my fallen brother!