2011 NCAA Football Thread

[ITurnGirlsGay]

Whatever ITurnGirlsGay there is obviously no reasoning with you although everything you have said I completely disagree it is only your opinion so to each his own sir. But saying that Chris Peterson is a bigger coaching name than Frank Beamer is the last straw. What have you been smoking bro!? I'm completely disregarding everything you have said about Virginia Tech. Chris Peterson is nowhere near Frank Beamer's status as a head coaching name. To me you just sound like a biased west coast USC fan. And i mean that in the most respectful way. So im done debating with you on this topic because its like beating ones head against a brick wall over and over again.

First off, it's PetersEn. Please spell his name right before you tell me that I have no idea what I am talking about.

No, you just clearly don't understand anything at all about the sport, dude. There's a reason that people like myself are paid to report on these issues while you sit here and spout off nonsense that nobody agrees with.

If Frank Beamer was such a huge name, why did Penn State actively try to sign Petersen, why did UCLA offer Petersen $4m a year if he would have come to the bRuins?


http://www.mwcconnection.com/2011/12/2/2607406/chris-petersen-ucla-four-million

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/23/penn-state-continues-pursuit-of-chris-petersen/


Nobody has offered Beamer anything. Petersen is, in fact, a bigger name than Frank Beamer. People want him on their sidelines. Nobody, I mean NOBODY, is offering Frank Beamer a job.

Don't sell me on the loyalty to Virginia Tech bullshit, either. Everyone has a price. Urban had a price, Carroll had a price, Spurrier had a price, Holtz had a price. The simple fact remains, Petersen is a hotter commodity in the world of college football than Frank Beamer.

Your problem is that you refuse to see any of the facts placed in front of you. It's call being a homer. You're trying to shift that blame to me when it's just not there. If you think I'm such a fucking homer, you should probably have read my articles where I ripped the Trojans to shreds in the beginning of the season for poor defensive effort, poor offensive effort, stupid penalties, and lack of effort.

You, on the other hand, cannot recognize that your school hasn't won shit, EVER. Isn't even close to winning anything, can't even win half the BCS bowls they have appeared in, lost to Boise State in what was, essentially, a home game. Lost to an FCS school the following week, and is tied for the 4th most BCS appearances while being tied for WORST record of anyone not named Notre Dame with 3 or more appearances (Florida State, ANOTHER ACC school).

You want to talk about being a homer and biased? You're trying to sell us that your program is *holds up two fingers* "this close" to being elite. NEWS FLASH DUDE: ELITE PROGRAMS DON'T LOSE TO FCS SCHOOLS

They also aren't 9-14 in bowls. You've had a total of 8 All-Americans in your history, and your conference titles have all come recently.

Despite the fact that I have shown you your recruiting rankings, your ACC recruiting ranking, your bowl record, your BCS bowl record, all you keep pointing out are your conference titles, your BCS appearances, your "hometown" recruits, your 10 win seasons, winning record, and Frank's "godlike" status in Blacksburg, but *I* am the biased homer?

You know what, dude. You don't even have the first clue about anything outside of your box. You're the only person in the world who believes the ACC is better than any of the other major conferences than the Big East.

I actually voted Blackmon as the Belitnikoff award winner ahead of Robert Woods from USC.

I ranked RGIII ahead of Luck in my Heisman predictions.

Yeah, I'm a total fucking homer. I put two Big XII guys ahead of Pac-12 guys for some of the most prestigious awards in CFB.

My only complaint with the Heisman balloting was that Barkley wasn't given an invite to New York over Luck. He should have been. I still would have picked RGIII to win it, but Luck wasn't the second best player in the nation. He wasn't even the best QB in his own conference, statistically, this year.

Get a clue.

 

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First off, it's PetersEn. Please spell his name right before you tell me that I have no idea what I am talking about.

No, you just clearly don't understand anything at all about the sport, dude. There's a reason that people like myself are paid to report on these issues while you sit here and spout off nonsense that nobody agrees with.

If Frank Beamer was such a huge name, why did Penn State actively try to sign Petersen, why did UCLA offer Petersen $4m a year if he would have come to the bRuins?


http://www.mwcconnection.com/2011/12/2/2607406/chris-petersen-ucla-four-million

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/23/penn-state-continues-pursuit-of-chris-petersen/


Nobody has offered Beamer anything. Petersen is, in fact, a bigger name than Frank Beamer. People want him on their sidelines. Nobody, I mean NOBODY, is offering Frank Beamer a job.

Don't sell me on the loyalty to Virginia Tech bullshit, either. Everyone has a price. Urban had a price, Carroll had a price, Spurrier had a price, Holtz had a price. The simple fact remains, Petersen is a hotter commodity in the world of college football than Frank Beamer.

Your problem is that you refuse to see any of the facts placed in front of you. It's call being a homer. You're trying to shift that blame to me when it's just not there. If you think I'm such a fucking homer, you should probably have read my articles where I ripped the Trojans to shreds in the beginning of the season for poor defensive effort, poor offensive effort, stupid penalties, and lack of effort.

You, on the other hand, cannot recognize that your school hasn't won shit, EVER. Isn't even close to winning anything, can't even win half the BCS bowls they have appeared in, lost to Boise State in what was, essentially, a home game. Lost to an FCS school the following week, and is tied for the 4th most BCS appearances while being tied for WORST record of anyone not named Notre Dame with 3 or more appearances (Florida State, ANOTHER ACC school).

You want to talk about being a homer and biased? You're trying to sell us that your program is *holds up two fingers* "this close" to being elite. NEWS FLASH DUDE: ELITE PROGRAMS DON'T LOSE TO FCS SCHOOLS

They also aren't 9-14 in bowls. You've had a total of 8 All-Americans in your history, and your conference titles have all come recently.

Despite the fact that I have shown you your recruiting rankings, your ACC recruiting ranking, your bowl record, your BCS bowl record, all you keep pointing out are your conference titles, your BCS appearances, your "hometown" recruits, your 10 win seasons, winning record, and Frank's "godlike" status in Blacksburg, but *I* am the biased homer?

You know what, dude. You don't even have the first clue about anything outside of your box. You're the only person in the world who believes the ACC is better than any of the other major conferences than the Big East.

I actually voted Blackmon as the Belitnikoff award winner ahead of Robert Woods from USC.

I ranked RGIII ahead of Luck in my Heisman predictions.

Yeah, I'm a total fucking homer. I put two Big XII guys ahead of Pac-12 guys for some of the most prestigious awards in CFB.

My only complaint with the Heisman balloting was that Barkley wasn't given an invite to New York over Luck. He should have been. I still would have picked RGIII to win it, but Luck wasn't the second best player in the nation. He wasn't even the best QB in his own conference, statistically, this year.

Get a clue.

Wow now you are bashing me for no reason iv obviously stuck a nerve with you somewhere along the lines and i think its rather comical your taking this shit WAY! to seroiusly you need to grow the fuck up dude its just a fucking game and you can just go to hell for consistently bashing me and my school over and over. Iv been following this sport for 15 fucking years I'm fucking far from clueless about the sport like iv said many times before TO EACH THEIR OWN! you westcoast-USC HOMER! You are a notorious VT hater and you have taken this opportunity with me talking about a catch in the sugar bowl and have almost completely change the subject in order to just to bash VT to the fullest its time for you to just shut the hell up!

 

[ITurnGirlsGay]

Wow now you are bashing me for no reason iv obviously stuck a nerve with you somewhere along the lines and i think its rather comical your taking this shit WAY! to seroiusly you need to grow the fuck up dude its just a fucking game and you can just go to hell for consistently bashing me and my school over and over. Iv been folowing this sport for 15 fucking years I'm fucking far from clueless about the sport like iv said many times before TO EACH THEIR OWN! you westcoast-USC HOMER! You are a notorious VT hater and you have taken this opportunity with me talking about a catch in the sugar bowl to bash VT to the fullest its time for you to just shut the hell up!

Yep dude, for no reason at all. Here's your red rep.

2011 NCAA Football Thread 01-06-2012 05:05 PM TNA cross the line You cali boys just dont know when to SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Nice try, man. Don't try to act like you're all kind and accepting on the boards when you're telling people to shut the fuck up. It's an insult to me when you're calling me a homer and disregarding everything I've said because I have provided you factual evidence and all you can spout off is your own opinion.

That's the nerve you struck. I took the time to respond to your PM even though I really didn't want to do so. I even took the time to do your research for you.

I have gone out of my way to illustrate to you that your program is nowhere near elite status and all you can do is call me a homer repeatedly and tell me that I hate Va. Tech. It doesn't matter what program's fanbase was saying this stuff, I would tell them the same thing if they had your schools' credentials.

You are clueless to the sport. Several people on this thread have pointed out to you asinine things that you have said out of sheer homerism, but you still call everyone else a homer because they disagree with your point of view. If you want to prove people wrong, back it up with facts about your school. 10 win seasons don't mean shit if you cap it off by getting your ass kicked in a bowl.

You're telling me to grow up. That's a little funny coming from somebody who refuses to believe the truth regardless of the facts placed in front of them. Your only consistent comeback to me is that I am a Pac-12 biased, West Coast homer.

USC is the ONLY West Coast team I like. I hate the Lakers, I hate the Dodgers, I hate the Kings, I hate Raiders, I hate the Niners, I hate every single team inside California with the exception of the USC Trojans. But I am a West Coast homer, right? How is that possible?

I've told you that Luck didn't belong in New York. I have said that Blackmon was the best receiver in the nation over Woods. I have repeatedly trashed Oregon's fan base for claiming the exact same crap you are, but they have actually won something recently. How on earth can I be a West Coast, Pac-12 homer when I treat my own conference the exact same way that I am treating you?

That's why I said you don't get, that's why I am constantly responding to you, and that's why I am telling you that you don't know anything at all. If you want to find me some FACTUAL evidence that your school is *THIS* close to being elite, I welcome you do to so.

10 win seasons, while great, don't mean anything. Many schools do that on a consistent basis in crappy conferences and they aren't elite either. Conference titles don't mean anything unless you actually do something with the reward that comes from having earned a conference title. If anything, they have done the exact opposite. They play worse in bowl games than they do in the regular season.

Congrats on Beamer being the "winning-est" active coach in FBS. You know what he's accomplished with all of those wins?

8-11 in bowls, 1-5 in BCS bowls, and a single BCS bowl victory over Cincinnati in 2008.

Sorry dude, that's not the mark of an elite program, an elite coach, or an elite team. I don't know how else to explain it to you, but you don't want to hear the truth anyhow.

 

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Wow if you wanna copy and paste red reps lets take a look at the rep you gave me before i gave you that rep...

You don't know anything about football and there's a reason nobody pays for your dumbass opinion. They sure pay for mine, fucking idiot

Yea your just a hater who supposedly "works" as a sport journalist... just give it up bro its rather pathetic at this point. Why don't you just go back to what u do best turning girls gay.

I have no issue with Michigan winning the game. As a matter of fact, I am glad they did. I cannot stand Va. Tech and I love laughing at them this time of year. Virginia Tech blowing it in a BCS game is as close to a sure thing in life as you're going to get.

You said it yourself you hate VT. Your Biased

 

[ITurnGirlsGay]

Wow if you wanna copy and paste red reps lets take a look at the rep you gave me before i gave you that rep...



Yea your just a hater who supposedly "works" as a sport journalist... just give it up bro its rather pathetic at this point. Why don't you just go back to what u do best turning girls gay.

Here's one of the supposed sites I write for.

http://sports-at-work.com/Our-Team/

Yup, here's me supposedly writing an article about the SEC hypocrisy.

http://sports-at-work.com/20111003422/PAC-12/hypocrisec-one-could-make-the-argument.html

Here's me supposedly writing an article for another website about the Overeem-Lesnar fight.

http://aeryssports.com/kitchen-sink/ufc-141-a-main-card-preview/

Here's me pretending to interview CBS' Gregg Doyel about Danny Sheridan and the Auburn/Cam Newton situation and USC WR Brice Butler

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sportsatworkradio/2011/09/09/west-coast-wednesday-wjosh-and-jeff-9811

Yes, I supposedly write and host several shows.

I don't care for Virginia Tech, but that has ZILCH to do with my disputing your claim that they're an elite team or close to it. They're not. I HATE Alabama, but I still would call them an elite team. Believe it or not, I can actually separate bias when I write. I don't make absurd claims that aren't grounded in some sort of reality.

You've been spouting off complete garbage about why your team is close to elite, but you haven't once, though I have asked you to do so repeatedly, been able to provide a single shred of evidence indicating that Virginia Tech can even compete for a title in the next 5-6 years. Hell, you haven't even been able to provide me proof that they can win a BCS game within the next couple of years.

You just keep spouting on and on about Beamer's legend and, while it may be true, certainly isn't proof of their ability to break into the elite. You keep discussing their 10 wins seasons that, while they're cool, don't mean shit because they keep losing in bowls and BCS games. You keep talking about these 3-4 star recruits that you get from home and, while that's nice, barely any of them translate into anything at the NFL or collegiate level.

Seriously dude, how many more times do you want to attack the person instead of addressing the questions he has asked you? If you having something relevant to add to this conversation about WHY Virginia Tech is approaching elite, I'd love to hear it. Unfortunately, you keep giving us your fanboy opinion instead of actually addressing the points I've raised.

1. They suck in bowls

2. They suck in BCS bowls

3. They lost to Boise (on the East Coast) and to James Madison (FCS school)

4. They got stomped by Clemson twice and then lost to a Michigan team that really isn't all that great.

5. They haven't come close to a national title since they lost to Florida State

6. They have marginal recruits that don't really produce

7. They play in a conference that has the WORST BCS record of any AQ conference and Va. Tech's losses account for a significant majority of them

8. Beamer has a horrible bowl record and an even worse BCS record

9. If Beamer ball actually worked, you'd see the success in bowls against good teams

10. Conference championships don't mean anything unless you come home with a piece of hardware from a bowl. Va. Tech hasn't except once.