Joey Styles really loves the word "Marxist"

[Razor Blade Dream]

Hoo boy. There was a thread about Joey Styles' Twitter and him bashing Obama for speaking at Notre Dame. Well, he is at it again, look at these gems he said today:

"By the way, he used taxpayer money to turn ownership of Chrysler and GM to the UAW which donated millions to his campaign. That's a payoff!
about 3 hours ago from txt


Obama hid from his middle name, Hussein, during the election and now brags about how many Muslims live in America. He's a fraud.
about 3 hours ago from txt

Our marxist president is in the Middle East apologizing for for the USA and snubbing Israel. The disgrace continues.
about 3 hours ago from txt"


I know people said it is his own account and not affiliated with WWE whatsoever but he still plugs WWE programming and events along with his "politics." I know the man is entitled to his own opinion but I think its kind of shitty to be plugging WWE affiliated events while bitching about Obama. If he wants his own account, that is fine, but don't mix an advertisement like this:
"wwe.com legacy is now wweclassics.com featuring hundreds of matches from wwe, wwf, wcw, wccw, awa and ecw plus classic raw and superstars tv
6:12 PM May 28th from txt"

and then call the president a "Marxist" in the next "Tweet." It doesn't exactly turn me off to WWE (Orton does) but he still represents the company. And mingling his political opinion and WWE is not cool I don't think. The Twitter background has the WWE Universe logo and it's a picture of Joey and a filled arena for fuck's sake. If I was not informed it was his "personal" account and was a casual fan or even worked for a company looking to advertise with WWE, I would feel WWE was hypocritical for touting the wrestling show for the troops and being All-Americans but then have let an employee call the president a "Marxist" and a "fraud."

Like I said, I could give a shit either way, but looking at it from a different point of view, I think he is in the wrong for mixing his political agenda and WWE events or advertisements. Yes, they have wrestlers go to either the Democratic or Republican conventions depending on their views but they don't go on air or even on their own Twitters or MySpace blogs and spout out flat out hate like that.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

If all this is being said on his Twitter account, I don't think he is necessarily mixing messages. It's not like his words are in the Advertisement, itself. After all, he has a right to Free Speech, and to have on his Twitter page whatever he wants, just like anyone else.

However, I'm sure Vince McMahon completely endorses his views.

Just out of curiosity, I thought I saw at one point online that Joey Styles was Jewish. Is that the case? If so, it may possibly have an effect on his political views as it pertains to the current President.

Besides any of that, some Right Wing conservatives will always have similar philosophies and oppose any form of Socialism in society. Other people want some elements of Socialism in society, such as Universal Healthcare. And I think other people in the country would like to see us completely ditch Capitalism in favor of Socialism, altogether.

To that I reply to Joey Styles, the people voted for Obama ... or the "Marxist" as he likes to call him. Maybe the country is changing too fast for ol' Joey "Oh My God" Styles.

Of course then again, Styles ... "Sticks and Stones ..." ... you know the rest. Keep on saying the word "Marxist" to your heart's content, and see what it changes.

 

[The Infant Finite]

I wouldn't call that hatred. I would say he's calling it as he sees it. Perhaps he is wrong to be mixing his views with WWE advertising like that, but I think its a bit strong to say he's just hating for the sake of hating.
There are a lot of things about Obama that simply don't quite add up and based on how he managed to get himself elected, a politically invested person is bound to see something wrong with the way he is doing things. And these days, the best way to vent is through he internet.


Anyhow, i have no interest in getting into any sort of political debate here, so i'll reserve any personal views on President Soter...er....I mean, Obama.
Maybe Joey is wrong for spouting his political views and wwe adverts on the same account, but then again maybe Joey doesn't really give a damn about being fired anymore. Maybe, maybe not, who knows and who really cares?
How many people go to Joey's twitter page anyhow? Just out of curiousity because I personally want nothing to do with the whole Twitter thing.

 

[The Dewbliners]

Well, I follow Joey on Twitter, and, while I don't neccessarily agree with his political views, I will defend to the death his right to them. It's not for us to say what's right for him. Given the Presidents current trend, who's to say Obama won't call WWE and tell them they have to sell to the Gov't, or something like that. He's done it to other companies. But, I digress....

As for the question "Is it hypocritical?" , I'm gonna say no it's not. He's not a representative of the company on large, that would be Vince's job. Joey is simply letting his political views be known. It's no different than me using my film companies twitter account to let my affiliations get voiced (which I have). Remember people, our Constitution affords us the right of Free Press, and Free Speech. That's all Joey was practicing.

 

[trevis.hull]

I agree 100 percent with Joey Styles and find his "tweets" to be spot on. It is well known that Vince doesn't not like Obama and does not support Obama. As much as I hated WWE's version of the Political Race watching a mock version of Obama receiving a beating from Umaga warmed my Republican heart. All I have to say is I can't wait to hear Joey Styles speak the truth even more.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Well, he's Jewish. So he'd be pissed off about Obama "snubbing" Israel, probably. Doesn't seem particularly anti-Muslim though - he just seems angry that Obama was formerly, uh, "hiding" his name.

The dude seriously needs to look up what a Marxist is though. There's hyperbole and there's just being a cunt.

 

[Razor Blade Dream]

Well, looks like he either got some shit from a few people or the office gave him hell it seems:

"I just want to make clear that the passionate political commentary posted here is mine personally and not in any way those of WWE, Inc.
14 minutes ago from txt"

Yeah, it totally seems like he got some hell for it.

Now, I'm not disagreeing nor agreeing with Styles for what he said earlier, I just feel that he should word himself carefully. Like Uncle Sam said, he really needs to look up "Marxist."

 

[Ovaltine]

Well, at least he's only doing it on his twitter account. Every week on "Who's slammin' Who" I have to listen to Jim Cornette practically ask Obama to let him give him oral- it's really annoying (I'm done with that sight unless they get back to talking about wrestling!) If you want to have your own political soap box do it on YOUR OWN websight- like joey does. Don't do it every week on a websight that is supposed to be devoted to Wrestling.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

Well, at least he's only doing it on his twitter account. Every week on "Who's slammin' Who" I have to listen to Jim Cornette practically ask Obama to let him give him oral- it's really annoying (I'm done with that sight unless they get back to talking about wrestling!) If you want to have your own political soap box do it on YOUR OWN websight- like joey does. Don't do it every week on a websight that is supposed to be devoted to Wrestling.

I think it's intriguing seeing Cornette root on Obama. I would have had him pegged for a staunch Right Winger. Maybe he feels guilty for his past Dairy Queen Incident. Who knows?

But I know leading up to the Election, he was blasting any and all Republicans in his commentary, and completely blasted the Bush Administration.

 

[Shocky]

Good for Joey Styles. It's a shame that more public figures dont' speak out against Obama as it is apparantely the uncool thing to do, or the fact that someone will be painted a racist in the process. Joey Styles is a vocal human being, and he has every right from a private Twitter account to bash Obama as much as he wants.

Personally, its refreshing to see a public figure going against the Celebrity grain like Styles. I'd rep Joey Styles if I could.

 

[X]

I hope none of you guys think that Joey Styles throwing insults at Obama on a daily basis bothers Vince or the WWE in any way. Vince and Kevin Dunn are both gigantic conservatives who both despise Obama, to the point where they've had employees reprimanded for showing any support for Democrats. All this while Dunn walks into work with a big Bush/Cheney button on his lapel.

McMahon is probably sitting behind his desk reading every one of Joey's tweets with a big fat grin on his face. Just another incident in a long line that have made me officially lose all respect for the man.

 

[ShockTheMonkey223]

I've never been a fan of Joey Style's but I applaud him for speaking his mind about "The Messiah". I think the reason why people are getting so upset about it is because everything he's saying is true.

 

[PDepew2181]

Well, I was the person who started the first thread referring to Styles' Twitter postings.

I found them to be stupid, and I said so. I find these latest postings to be just as stupid. Obama was hiding from his middle name? Hmm. Don't really remember that. Also don't see why his middle name is an issue. Oh, wait, that's right. Because his middle name, which he was given at birth, happened to be the last name of a fanatical dictator who invaded a country that we came to rescue with some of the weapons he had been given years earlier by us to fight off those pesky Iranians. Yep, that's Obama's fault all right. And it's also an extremely relevant issue, like his pick of Supreme Court justice, or how he plans to defend the country or overhaul health care or close Gitmo or improve the U.S.'s reputation throughout the rest of the world. Oh, wait, that's right. NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!!

That's my only problem with Styles' postings, really. Not that he's saying them on a page that looks like a WWE Universe page. But just that the things he says make absolutely no sense. I don't see how Obama visiting a concentration camp is apologizing for the U.S. Maybe I missed something, I don't follow every move he makes, but I just don't understand where he comes up with these opinions, unless he's constantly listening to Fox News. Sure he has every right to say these things. I also have every right to call him a pathetic little right-wing nutjob who can't get over the fact that for the first time in 14 years his side doesn't hold power in either the legislative or executive branches of government.

Just one other thing I'd like to add here, re: Vince's political views. I remember reading here several months back that there was some talk of calling him for Congressional hearings related to steriod use, and something about Vince showing up in a clown suit since he said that the whole thing would be a joke. I actually agree with Vince that any such hearings would be a joke, just as they were for the legitimate sports versions we've seen over the last few years. At the same time, though, I'd love to see Vince follow through with that alleged threat because he would ruin his credibility even further. That's assuming he has any left, of course. He might expect the Republicans on the hearing committee to give him a break, but I guarantee that they would not. Right now I'd just love to see Vince make a bigger fool out of himself.

That's assuming that's possible, of course.

 

[ShockTheMonkey223]

Obama was hiding from his middle name? Hmm. Don't really remember that.

Do you remember him ever using it during his campaign? No, because of the Muslim connotation. But now that's in office, he wants to "make peace" with Muslims.

 

[Loveless]

Do you remember him ever using it during his campaign? No, because of the Muslim connotation. But now that's in office, he wants to "make peace" with Muslims.

And which president has used their middle name during a campaign? Bloody none of them is the answer. It's common sense that he uses it at this moment in time, especially when he's trying to establish the view that America isn't biased. Joey is full of crap and needs to read up or shut up.

 

[ShockTheMonkey223]

And which president has used their middle name during a campaign? Bloody none of them is the answer.

Actually, no, that's not the answer.

William Howard Taft
John Quincy Adams
William Henry Harrison
William Jefferson Clinton

 

[X]

Do you remember him ever using it during his campaign? No, because of the Muslim connotation. But now that's in office, he wants to "make peace" with Muslims.

Are you fucking serious? Are you really going to bring up the middle name thing?

How is the president's middle name relevent in any way to his policies or ideals? It's not, at all. It's a typical non-issue that the right loves to use to attack the character of a person instead of that person's politics.

He's trying to "make peace" with the Muslims? Funny, I don't remember him ever having problems with Muslims. You are aware that most Muslims around the globe supported Obama, right, based mostly on his name?

Yeah, the guy sure was hiding it. The press just kept asking him what his middle name was, but he'd always just tell 'em to piss off right?

Unbelievable. If you've got issues with the man like so many of us do, atleast bring up issue that's actually even slightly important.

 

[ShockTheMonkey223]

He's trying to "make peace" with the Muslims? Funny, I don't remember him ever having problems with Muslims. You are aware that most Muslims around the globe supported Obama, right, based mostly on his name?

Yeah, the guy sure was hiding it. The press just kept asking him what his middle name was, but he'd always just tell 'em to piss off right?

Exactly, the point.

And of course, there's much bigger issues than his middle name, Style's even brought up one but somehow the Obama supporters only seem to bring up the name issue. I wonder why...

 

[PDepew2181]

Exactly, the point.

And of course, there's much bigger issues than his middle name, Style's even brought up one but somehow the Obama supporters only seem to bring up the name issue. I wonder why...

Well, Styles is the one who keeps bringing it up, we're just discussing it as a result. The other points Joey makes are things that should be discussed, but not in the way he does it. First of all, the whole Marxist thing is weak, at best. There's no way Obama could ever turn the country socialist in a significant manner. If you think that's what he's doing now, I think you need to understand socialism a little bit better.

The Chrysler/GM issue is well taken. The problem I have here is that what's the alternative? Those on the right will just bash anything that Obama does right now, but I'm not seeing a lot of viable alternatives being presented. In this respect, it's a little like what the Democrats did for the first six years of Bush's tenure: complain for the sake of complaining and not actually do anything. When they stood up in opposition to Bush in the first place, which didn't happen until about the 2004 election season.

I think that this thread has once again proved the point I put forth in the first Styles/Twitter thread: that wrestling and politics don't mix. This is a wrestling board, but this thread has turned political, and already we have just a lot of back and forth name calling and such, all the hallmarks of what makes the internet a dangerous place.

Can't we just all choose to argue and disagree about wrestling?

 

[Monroe]

Joey Styles = American

Therefore he is well within his rights. Hell, between this and him punching J.B.L. in the face, I'd vote him into office for Governor.

 

[Decarow]

This is a wrestling forum. Why the hell are we bashing a behind-the-scenes guy on his personal view? Can't a guy get on his personal Twitter and put what HE wants to put down? Who cares if you agree or disagree with what he's saying? He's actually sort of right about some of it, although some words could be changed. Since Obama became president, our economy has gotten worse. And it doesn't help that he's ALREADY spent more money than any other president. I have caught myself writing in my blog a thing or two about the matter. But my work-place (i'm student body president at a college) doesn't interfere with me.

So what if he dislikes Obama? Is it a sin to hate a president? No it's not, look at W. We shouldn't let his personal views get in the way of how we perceive him. Look at how much better WWE.com has gotten since he took the reigns.

So grow up, and just respect his point of view. This is America. Doesn't Obama preach for tolerance? Time to start practicing it. Damn.

 

[X]

This is a wrestling forum. Why the hell are we bashing a behind-the-scenes guy on his personal view?

Because we can?

Can't a guy get on his personal Twitter and put what HE wants to put down?

Sure he can, we also have the right to mock his opinions.

Who cares if you agree or disagree with what he's saying? He's actually sort of right about some of it, although some words could be changed. Since Obama became president, our economy has gotten worse.

Yes, clearly our current economic situation is the result of the last six monthes and not the years and years before it. Obviously.

And it doesn't help that he's ALREADY spent more money than any other president.

It's called a stimulus plan. Key word: stimulus.

So what if he dislikes Obama? Is it a sin to hate a president? No it's not, look at W. We shouldn't let his personal views get in the way of how we perceive him. Look at how much better WWE.com has gotten since he took the reigns.

No it's not a sin. He can say whatever he wants. He should just really take five minutes to study what Marxism actually is though before throwing the word around and making himself look foolish in the process. In a way, we're almost trying to help the guy.

So grow up, and just respect his point of view. This is America. Doesn't Obama preach for tolerance? Time to start practicing it. Damn.

Clearly you don't understand the word tolerance. You can tolerate something and still completely disagree with it.

Thanks for that insightful post. Here's a novel idea: don't like the thread topic? Don't go into it.

 

[Decarow]

and obviously you haven't read the all the posts here. Nobody is tolerating anybody's opinions. and having that huge ass inauguration really doesn't help much with the economy situation either. And didn't you say that yall are doing the topic cus yall want to? then i deserve the right to state my opinion too, you hypocrite. But my personal opinion on the matter is that we should have better things to worry about than whether or not an ex commentator agrees with our president.

 

[sicmcnasti]

I posted something about this on WWE Universe but Joey Styles annoyed the shit out of me with the allegations. First off Marxism isn't a bad thing, what it potentially leads to is but that's only in the hands of the ignorant like butthurt Conservatives such as Joey Styles who didn't say a fucking thing before the election but decide 6 months later to act as if it were a surprise. If Joey was SOOO scared of Obama becoming president, he should have influence the WWE fans into not voting for him - but wait...they're all 12 now and can't vote.

Either way, I just hate how guys like him and Rush Limbaugh resort to spouting bullshit instead of credible arguments. Styles needs to sit on a dick and shut the fuck up. Matt Striker too - I hear him sneaking that shit into commentary.

 

[ShockTheMonkey223]

and having that huge ass inauguration really doesn't help much with the economy situation either.

Yeah, anybody who thinks Obama is trying to help anything but his own ego is kidding themselves.