Anyone else not buying these Wrestlemania reports?

So reports claim it will be Cena/Taker and Brock/Reigns at WrestleMania. Their is also reports of Sting not in the plans for Mania. I'm not buying it. For starters WWE is missing stars why would WWE put the 4 biggest Mania draws they have (outside of HHH) in 2 matches when they need more big matches and they need to make stars NOW!

My thoughts is were getting Cena/Reigns,Sting/Taker,Triple H vs. Wyatt or Ambrose, and Lesnar vs. Batista or Sheamus.

I think what happens is at TLC, Reigna has Sheamus down and climbs the ladder. He's at the top with his hands on the title and H pulls him down and pedigrees him as Sheamus climbs the ladder.

The next night,Reigns will call out Triple H for another shot and he tells Reigns to go to the back of the line. That starts a feud between the two for Rumble where if Reigns wins he gets entered in the Rumble but at #1. Meanwhile later on the next night on Raw after TLC in our main event segment Sheamus is celebrating his title win and Cena returns to set up Cena vs. Sheamus at RR for the title.

At RR, Cena wins the title to hell of boos. Reigns will win the RR. I think he all get cheered this year because he makes sense to win it this year. Setting up Cena vs. Reigns for Mania.

Triple H will then either settle for targeting Ambrose next OR The Wyatt's will turn face going after "the man."

I think when Undertaker reruns again the night after RR,Sting will interrupts (ala Triple H) with a silent staredown bat pointing at Mania sign/throat slash.

Sheamus would screw Brock out of the Rumble to set that up.

My opinions and thoughts.

What do you think are the real plans for Mania? Do you believe the "reports" being leaked?

 

Seeing the wrestle mania possibilities just makes me sad as a fan since 1991. Do any of these matchups even sound exciting?

The only way I can see this being salvaged is by thinking outside the box at the Royal Rumble. It isn't working with Reigns and having him win the RR won't help matters. He needs a character tweaking--your main good guy shouldn't be boo'd out the building. Instead, why not have an underdog win the royal rumble for once? Wyatt, KO, Ambrose, even Ziggler winning would create something fresh and interesting for WM that people might actually want to see.

 

I think it's far to early to see what happens at Mania this year. There will definitely have to be a lot of part timers brought in to sell this event.

Don't know about Reigns/Lesnar, should be Reigns/HHH but doesn't that mean that HHH would have to hold the title. Sheamus for me in the main event at Mania, isn't working. As for Sting, will he even be able to wrestle again. I've not heard anything about him in a long time. Whether he's been cleared, okay, or going to retire.

Don't know about Wyatt, seems he doesn't really have anything going on right now either. All these injuries have thrown the WWE for a loop and they really have to pull something spectacular out of the bag. I just don't know if there is anything left in the bag to pull out.

We were going to spend the money to go and have decided not too. I'm just not confident in the way the roster is being booked right now to warrant the expense.

 

I buy most the reports, but with half the roster injured, the plans are probably changing daily.

I doubt WWE has any direction for Mania at this point.

 

This WM is different in years past because while WWE claims sales are strong thus far (and they'll lie about attendance and say it sold out regardless) their goal is to sell 100,000+ tickets and make this the biggest gate of all time.

Which means that between now and then they are going to have to put together a product compelling enough to convince tens of thousands of casual fans to want to spend big money to attend this event. Now keep in mind the report that last Monday's Raw was the lowest rating since BEFORE THE ATTITUDE ERA! That is a disastrous combination.

It's already painfully obvious that Reigns basically just stepped into Rollins spot, and they're hoping to make him both a sympathetic face and repeat Austin/McMahon at the same time, so expect Reigns/HHH for WM.

Beyond that, I'd say the card is largely up in the air. Cena/Taker in a retirement match could be a good option.

A Daniel Bryan return could certainly help.

I would BEG Austin to come out of retirement, even it's not much of a "match" announcing his in ring return in Texas for WM, would definitely help add some star power to the card.

I'd also consider getting Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy back (if contracts allow).

Maybe throw Batista in the mix too, possibly against Lesnar.

If I was booking this show, I'd be pulling out every guy I can find that has name value, because this show is gonna need every gimmick match and as much star power as they can muster to move that many tickets, and with the product they're putting out lately I'm surprised they can even fill a Raw, let alone the biggest WM of all time.

 

its way too early to be predicting WM. i dont see any of that happening (but what do i know??!)
i definitely dont see Cena getting the belt and breaking flairs record (which actually is more than 16 but thats another story) without a whole lot of hype. it wont be as simple as just returning and taking it from Sheamus ((i dont want to see another sheamus vs cena match they are always awful!)

 

Wyatt vs Helmsley would be awesome the promos and feud between the family and authority would be great the whole build up would be cool

 

Part of the problem is all the injuries to main guys, plus the part-timers unavailable.

Not available will be Randy Orton, Seth Rollins, possibly Sting and we don't know how Brock has come up yet.

Triple H was set to fight the Rock, but the Rock can't get insurance on his new movie if he wrestles, so he is out.

It then seemed like it was building towards Triple H v Seth Rollins, but that won't happen either.

Too bad Randy Orton will miss Mania. I would have liked to see him fight either Bray Wyatt or Brock Lesnar, neither of which he has ever had a match against.

The Stephanie McMahon-Rhonda Rousey feud won't happen either. UFC won't let her do it, and with her recent loss, I think her marketability will go downhill as well.

I would like to see Cena v Taker. They haven't fought one-on-one for over 12 years, so the match-up isn't burnt out. In fact, last time, it was the "Doctor Of Thuganomics" versus "The American Bad Ass". They have never had "Hustle. Loyalty. Respect" versus "The Deadman".

As for Roman, I would like to see him fight Dean Ambrose. Finally have a proper match against the two of them, Roman as champ and Ambrose as winner of the Rumble. Maybe have Reigns turn on Ambrose, and have them feud for the following couple of months.

 

My original WrestleMania 32 card was quite laughable.

Reigns vs. Rollins vs. Ambrose - WWE Title
Wyatt vs. Orton
Bryan vs. Cesaro - US Title
Joe vs. Cena - IC Title
Lesnar vs. Owens
Rock/Rousey vs. HHH/Steph
Taker vs. Sting

Rollins, Orton, Bryan, and Cesaro are injured. Cena is taking time off. Owens isn't ready for Lesnar. Joe is being wasted in NXT. After her loss, Rousey's drawing ability has declined, so I wouldn't consider her for WM32. The current WWE Champion Sheamus wasn't on the card. Taker vs. Sting might happen, but it's unlikely.

Although it's probably too early to predict, I'll go through the basics of my card. (Note - This is what probably will happen and not necessarily what I want to see happen)

WWE Championship - It's either going to be Reigns finally winning the big one or Cena breaking Flair's record.

IC Championship - Ambrose vs. Owens

Part-Timers - Lesnar, Sting, Taker, and HHH will probably all have a match. Rock might have one. Austin probably won't.

That's all I know. I'm not even going to predict what the rest of the card will be. Mainly because of how my original card turned out.

 

Actually that looks like a pretty good card to me. It's too bad that 5 of those top names, Sting, Orton, Rollins, Bryan and Cesaro are now injured, and don't see them back in time. Cena will be back and have a match for sure, just against who is what everyone is betting on. Daniel Bryan might be back, but put the belt on Reigns first.

Agree with what someone else said about Rousey, since her loss, she's been a ghost, and the Rock will not be able to wrestle due to his movie career. He can still show up and give one hell of a good promo though.

All and all this Mania is shaping up to be one of the more interesting ones of recent years. Who will be there? Who will they wrestle? If the WWE suffers even one more injury to someone like Wyatt or Owens beforehand though, all bets are off.

 

So much about the card not being able to live up to standards, sure there arn't many drawcards like in previous years but there still should be a fair bit of talent spread over the WM32 card. Only guys i see probably not being available will be Cesaro, Orton, Rollins & Sting.

Sheamus © VS Brock Lesnar VS Roman Reigns
- Sheamus will hold the belt till he drops it than. Lesnar to win the RR and Reigns to beat HHH at fastlane earning his spot in the WM match.

The Undertaker VS John Cena
- Cena has been the face of WWE for years and no one is more deserving of taking out the big man IMO, what about a buried alive match?

Triple H VS Bray Wyatt
- With talk of this happening and with no opponent for Wyatt atm surely he deserves a bit of a push?

Kane VS Finn Balor
- Demon VS Demon? WWE say Balor is ready to debut but can't find the right match for him. A debut win at WM over the big red machine?

Kevin Owens © VS Daniel Bryan
- Has potential to be a HBK/Razor type match, If WWE are serious about pushing KO as a top heel than surely Bryan can come out for this match.

Alberto Del Rio © VS Rusev
- Besides the tag/diva belts being on the line, if creative can pull it off than a MexAmerica/Russian angle could work. I think Rusev belongs in the mid card feuds too.

Still possibly a good couple feuds to work with than have the andre the giant battle royal on the pre show card maybe?

 

Theres so many false predictions over the years so I'll believe it when I see it, I'm still hoping for the Taker vs Sting match that was supposedly the planned match for the previous Wrestlemania and Sheamus vs Brock also sounds good.

 

IMO that should headline RR, still enough time to build it too. That along with HHH/Reigns, the rumble and a couple other matches could make the PPV more anticipating.

I too would be happy if Taker has only 2 more matches left in him, both at the next Wrestlemanias, this one against Sting and next years against John Cena. Just with so much on this being Taker's last run, i think creative may pull the Cena fight maybe in a buried alive match?

 

Poll: What will be the REAL WrestleMania main events
What will be the REAL WrestleMania main events?
Brock/Reigns,Cena/Taker
Cena/Reigns,Sting/Taker,Brock/Sheamus,Triple H/Ambrose or Wyatt
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If that's what they are putting out I'm glad I'm only paying $9.99 for it. I will probably be still watching the NWA from 1985 on the network. Or may be the will ass more ECw shows by then

 

Wrestlemania typically has 7 matches on the card, with potentially 2 on the pre-show.

Certain matches are safe to assume:

- WWE World Heavyweight Championship, and it will involve Roman Reigns in some capacity.
- Undertaker match
- Brock Lesnar match
- John Cena match, not against Bray Wyatt
- Bray Wyatt match, not against John Cena or Undertaker
- Diva's match, likely for the title this year
- Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, possibly a pre-show match
- Intercontinental Championship, Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn (barring some other ridiculous plan)

Triple H and Sting are questionable. A US title match is questionable. A Tag Team title match is questionable, but probably will happen. So, from here, it's a matter of putting the puzzle pieces together. Undertaker vs Cena or Cena vs Reigns consolidates a match and frees up a slot, so I'd bank on that happening, unless Cena enters and probably wins the Andre Battle Royal.

Personally, I'd have the following:

WWE Title: Brock Lesnar (Royal Rumble winner) vs Roman Reigns (c)
Sheamus vs Undertaker
Diva's Title: Charolette vs Sasha Banks vs Paige (c)
Intercontinental Title: Sami Zayn vs Kevin Owens (c)
US Title: Dean Ambrose vs Alberto Del Rio (c)
Tag Team Titles: Literally anybody vs The New Day (c)
Andre Battle Royal: featuring John Cena and Bray Wyatt. Wyatt can have his whole family in there and Cena has to overcome the odds.

Then, just add a grudge match in there for 2 guys not in the battle royal, and you're done. Of course, it would be really easy to switch a few of these around, and we'll probably know for sure come the Rumble what we're getting.

 

True but WWE extended Summerslam this year, could see them adding 30mins which may get 2 more matches taking it to 9 on the match card.

I say a triple threat with Sheamus/Reigns/Lesnar will headline followed by Taker/Cena than and the pre show should maybe have the Andre the giant battle royal only with all the other titles on the line at the PPV.

Sami Zayn shouldn't be pushed to that shot just yet imo, there's no reason there feud can't end at Summerslam next year, it'll give creative time to build it right. I for one like the Balor/Kane feud at WM32, not holding my breathe for it tho.

 

Dogshit.

Yeah, let's put the biggest star in the company in a filler battle royal, so he can fight guys he's already fought at WrestleMania in a match that means absolutely nothing. Then let's put Sheamus against Undertaker, in a match no one will give a fuck about.

OR you could do John Cena vs. The Undertaker. The biggest star in the business against the greatest legend in the business. In front of 100 000 people. In Undertaker's home state. Probably in Undertaker's last match ever. That's an actual main event.

 

That's why I said "personally", as I really don't care who the Undertaker faces. I voted for Brock/Reigns and Cena/Taker on the poll, as I think that's what we'll actually get.

I am curious to see where Sheamus goes after this title reign ends. The company seems to have decent stock in the guy, but he's not going to reach the heights of so many others who are around right now.

 

Even if they go with Brock/Reigns, Taker/Cena WWE still has enough starpower. You are forgetting KO hope he stays champ by then. Then there is your diva's title which is getting interesting and the new day for tag titles. Throw US title in the mix and Bray wyatt and you have a decent card.

Brock/Reigns To establish Reigns as a legit badass.
Taker/cena
KO/ Samoa Joe
Nikki/Charlotte/paige
HHH/Cesaro
New day/dudleys/Usos/Barret& Sheamus fatal 4 way (less likely)
Andre the giant battle royal
Del rio vs samy zayn
Wyat/Ambrose.

 

Undertaker vs John Cena - WWE World Heavyweight Championship (If Taker wins he retires as Champion, If Cena wins he beats Flairs record and Taker retires, Taker should win title at Royal Rumble)

Brock Lesnar vs Daniel Bryan (Bryan eliminates Brock from the rumble, get a David vs Goliath story leading upto Mania).

HHH vs Roman Reigns (Should be Rollins).

Kurt Angle vs Rusev

Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn

Charlotte vs Paige vs Sasha Banks (WWE Womens Championship).

New Day vs Dudleys vs Usos (TLC Tag Team Titles).

Possibly have the Wyatts do something with Rock and Austin if Austins host.

 

The current ratings show what an awful product the WWE is pushing right now. The direction they decided to go at SS was brutal. Given the injuries, unavailability of part time stars, and most importantly lack of creativity I do not see how they will draw 100,000 for Mania. They will be comping more tickets than WM8 and "working" the attendance figure more than WM3.

It seems inevitable they are heading towards Roman Reigns vs HHH, so the best way to book it is for Roman to win at TLC or Rumble then have HHH enter the Rumble at 30 and win. Hell in a Cell could be an option too.

Who does HHH eliminate last to win? Brock Lesnar......with the help of Batista. He is one part time star that they should do everything to bring back for this event to work Brock. Perfect spot for him. Hopefully they could put on a really different feeling pro wrestling match utilizing a mix of Japanese strong style and submissions. Mixed Sports Entertainment?

Since the streak is dead we need something else added to the Undertaker's match. His Career. This could also be for the title which would be cool.

WrestleMania Star (32)

WWE Championship - Hell in a Cell
(c) Roman Reigns vs HHH w./Shawn Michaels as guest referee

Taker's Career Match
Undertaker vs John Cena

Brock Lesnar vs Batista

Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan (I know, I know but he has been credited with injuring Bryan which they could play up)

Finn Balor vs Bray Wyatt

IC Ladder Match
Kevin Owens vs Dean Ambrose
(If Sami Zayn can be built by then he could be added. They would really need to let these guys go creatively. Show stealer for sure)

US Title Match
Alberto Del Rio vs Samoa Joe (doubt they would do this but style wise would be a great match)

Tag Title Match ...I don't care anymore

 

Love the post above about Triple H joining the Rumble after Roman winning the title at TLC. He could enter at #30 as a total surprise...just say that he's gunna do everything in his power to take that title off Reigns, and then Boom...he enters and wins the Rumble.

Only do this if Cena vs Taker is 100%. Personally I'd rather see Sting vs Taker and Reigns vs Cena. Then let Samoa Joe take on HHH, but if reports are true, and Cena is taking on Taker, then yea, making it a retirement match makes things more interesting...even though we know Cena isn't retiring.

Awesome idea about Batista costing Brock the Rumble too...I've thought of a similar scenario in the past with those two. Batista has wanted Brock for years and years...it's time they make this match. Beg the hell outta Dave...this card needs him.


Triple H vs Roman Reigns (c)- World Heavyweight Title

John Cena vs The Undertaker- Retirement Match

Batista vs Brock


Still have Samoa Joe, Ambrose, Owens, Wyatt, Del Rio, and maybe Sting and DBryan. Sucks that Rollins, Orton, and Cesaro are definitely out and Sting plus DBryan are 50/50. Not to mention The Rock and Austin are pretty much 100% out too. Same goes for Kurt Angle.

We can keep our fingers crossed for Jericho who is pretty dependable and maybe Jeff Hardy?

I'd luv to see Daniel Bryan vs Chris Jericho added to that card...could be great.

Still a lot of time left, but it's gunna take a couple of miracles to get this card to a respectable level.

 

Why is everyone saying Kevin Owens versus Sami Zayn? Sami Zayn has appeared once on WWE TV, and got injured. Also, name me the last time a match between two NXT guys, who are not both on the same roster, was at a WWE PPV? Well, why will it start at WM32 then?

They are sure to have Kevin Owens in a match, but there is no guarantee of Sami Zayn, unless he gets promoted to the Raw roster before Wrestlemania. It is more likely that they would have Owens v Zayn at "NXT Takeover" before Wrestlemania, and then Owens fights someone else at the big show.

 

A few things:-

1) RAW ratings are down because there are stars missing, so it doesn't matter if they had the greatest storylines in the world, it would still not rate great.

Secondly, people watch it on their iPhone, iPad, or streaming. These don't count in the ratings, so ratings don't count as much to determine the success of a show.

Besides, if you know the TV industry, ratings are partly determined by advertisers, and how much they are willing to invest. if a station can convince an advertiser to spend so much money, how does he know that the people the ratings say are watching, are actually watching? What actually measures ratings? Some TV stations will push shows that have more commercial value, and not shows that are better, but more expensive.

If you go by ratings, does that mean most reality shows are really good, then?

2) I agree with most of your matches, except two.

I doubt that Bryan will be back at WM. In fact, I doubt he will ever be back, as he has injuries similar to those that ended SCSA's career, and Bryan doesn't believe in having surgery, which will make his lay-off time longer, while he waits for his body to heal itself. I think if Bryan wants to be able to walk long-term, he should retire on a high (have the fans give him a send-off) and be happy that he main-evented WM, won the title, and all the other things he has achieved.

Also, unless Finn Balor or Samoa Joe debut on "Raw" before WM, they won't be on the card.

 

I don't think wwe is gonna hide any surprises or wait till the last month before mania to announce anything. I think they are running like a chicken with their head cut off right now. With Rollins, Orton, Bryan, Cesaro, and Sting out for sure and Rock 90% out and Rousy I'll say 50% out then wwe is without direction right now. Not their fault, injuries are part of the game. So I'm guessing the faster they can secure a big name and the sooner they concrete a match then we will know. I know its a long wayvoff but with sales down we will know asap. Obviously Takers last match. Plus they needcto sell 100,000 tickets.

Now this is just my theory BUT I had think there will be a major roster shakeup before mania. I think
Finn Baylor will be called up
Joe will be called up
Bayley will be called up
Kurt Angle will be signed (he's currently retired from TNA + HOF)
Rey Mysterio will be signed (he's said he'd like too)
Steve Austin will guest referee
Both Hardy Boys will sign a temp contract (both have said they'd like that ÷ HOF)
Wait and see, out of nowhere Hogan will be forgiven and be there.

I'm really good friends with Eddie Guerrero's nephew and have it on 99% likely to happen that Angle, Mysterio, and Hogan WILL be there. And he said there's a very good possibility the announce team will be JBL, Lawler, and Jim Ross. These aren't fanboy rumors or not 100% confirmed either but very close.