ziggler, cody rhodes, del rio, and ryder

[iwinulose]

ok, so, heres the deal, everyone seems to like these 3 guys, say they are under utilized, or they are the future of the wwe, i say bs to that.

-dolph ziggler, good appearance, poor inring skills, annoying on the mic, and, persay tonight went to a wwe show, ziggler wouldnt wrestle primo for like the first 10 minutes just kept running out of the ring. yet they say ziggler is the future of the wwe? seriously?

-del rio, he like ziggler, (just using this as an example), he kept running around the ring, running away from rey mysterio. poor inring, so annoying on the mic (like most heels but still annoying). yet people say he is the future of the wwe? really?

-zach ryder, people say he is never used, say he is good? he is terrible, can you even remember the last time he was on a show (other then superstars). so many people say he is good, yet he is terrible.

-cody rhodes, does anyone like him? egotistic maniac. yet for whatever reason some people say he is the future of the wwe. he is annoying on the ring and he isnt talented in the ring either.

Questions:
1)why do you like/dislike cody rhodes, del rio, zach ryder and dolph ziggler?
2)ok, so if these 4 guys are good and should be used, then why arent guys like primo, or chris masters, etc used?
3)of these 4 heels, why do you think they deserve to be the future of the wwe? why do they deserve to be champion over guys who are in good with the crowd, or are actually talented?

 

[MWRedskins]

ok, i like Ziggler's in-ring skills, but not a huge fan of his promos and Vickie is half the reason his heat is so high. I like Del Rio's mic work and wreslting skills, i have grew on him. dont like Ryder, just doesnt catch my eye in the ring. i like Cody Rhodes and enjoy his in ring work and his promos have improved over time. my hope is that Rhodes wins money in the bank on Smackdown and i think Del Rio will face Cena soon.

 

[litarock82]

ziggler can put on a good match but at the end o the day should be released
ryder should be released i have no idea why people like him
del rio is the future he has excellent in ring and promo skills and has the presence o a main event player
rhodes is also very good

 

[Vincent Michaels]

Ziggler - Great in ring skills. He can wrestle almost any style and has had awesome matches against others like Edge, Daniel Bryan, Kaval, Rey Mysterio, and John Morrison. He's barely ok on the mic, which is why he needs Vickie as a mouthpiece. As for running scared, it's just what some heels do. Hogan did it as a heel, Shawn Michaels did it as a heel, and even HHH did it as a heel. And just like whenever Ziggler does it, he eggs the crowd on for the face to beat the tar out of him, which is just what good heels do.

Del Rio - A good ol' fashioned technician wrestler which are needed in todays product. He uses psychology to his advantage with various ways of working the arm and ware his opponent down, much like the greats like Bret Hart and Ric Flair who would really take it their opponents when it comes to working the opponent's legs. He's good on the mic because he does when heels are supposed to do: put themselves over and tell anyone and everyone that they'll be the greatest ever. He's definately the future becuase he's in his prime right now and putting on great matches and definately belongs in the spot that he's in.

Zack Ryder - He's good in the ring, great on the mic, and he can produce comedy that Eric Young and Santino could only dream of. He's literally creating his own cult following with the fact of how popular things like his YouTube show and character have become amongst the fans, mostly because of his natural, hilarious personnality. It doesn't matter if he's on a main show or not, because the point's that he still puts on good matches wherever he goes and gets the crowd into it. He isn't necessarilly the future of the company in my eyes, but he deserves a better spot than what he has now.

Cody Rhodes - Are you kidding me? Almost everyone likes him and his gimmick. He's one of the most over guys on the roster because he took a bad gimmick in "Dashing" Cody Rhodes, became that character with the way he shows it in the ring and now has turned it into the badass "Disfigured" Cody Rhodes which he uses to show true emotion in everything he does, both inside the ring and out. He's pretty much a modern day Mankind. And his in ring skills are amazing. He has a mixture of different styles, some ground and pound, some high-flying, and he throws in psychology to make everything he does seem important(like his 3 great matches with Rey and on SD! last night against Daniel Bryan).

Guys like Primo and Chris Masters get decent reactions, but nowhere near the likes of these 4, both in terms of as a heel or a face, which is why they aren't used other than on Superstars. And these 4 are some of the most talented guys that WWE has right now, which is why they all deserve to be champions and are some of the perfect people to represent the WWE.

 

[byrnside]

tonight went to a wwe show, ziggler wouldnt wrestle primo for like the first 10 minutes just kept running out of the ring. yet they say ziggler is the future of the wwe? seriously?

That my friend is called in-ring psychology, good heels use it and have used it for years.

-del rio, he like ziggler, (just using this as an example), he kept running around the ring, running away from rey mysterio. poor inring, so annoying on the mic (like most heels but still annoying). yet people say he is the future of the wwe? really?

Again, psychology. Del rio is far from poor in the ring, did you see his match at Wrestlemania against Edge? Looked like a natural to me and within a year or so he'll be running the main event scene. Also, heels are supposed to generate heat and/or be annoying, that's the point... to boo them. The WWE needs talent for the future and Del Rio is probably the closest to being able to successfully fill the gap.

-zach ryder, people say he is never used, say he is good? he is terrible, can you even remember the last time he was on a show (other then superstars). so many people say he is good, yet he is terrible.

I am not actually a huge supporter of Ryder but mostly because I don't usually catch Superstars. I think the major reason he's used almost exclusively on Superstars is because that's a show geared towards building talent, which is where Ryder needs to be. One day I'm pretty confident he'll have his time to shine.

-cody rhodes, does anyone like him? egotistic maniac. yet for whatever reason some people say he is the future of the wwe. he is annoying on the ring and he isnt talented in the ring either.

I'm definitely coming around to Cody. He's from my hometown and I wanted to like him so badly from the get go. His matches with Rey Mysterio have definitely opened my eyes for the future with him.

2)ok, so if these 4 guys are good and should be used, then why arent guys like primo, or chris masters, etc used?

Because they don't generate much attention from the fans when they do perform. I'm not saying that I don't like them. Or at least that I don't like Primo. I've never really cared for Masters. The fans who attend the shows are what control who moves up and who doesn't. I think it's as simple as that.

3)of these 4 heels, why do you think they deserve to be the future of the wwe? why do they deserve to be champion over guys who are in good with the crowd, or are actually talented?

Personally of the four I like Dolph Ziggler the mos. Cody has really been growing on me the last few months too.

A big thing in my opinion is that young talent severely suffers because they don't have the old school territories to get a chance to perfect their craft before coming to the WWE. So when they do come on to the big shows they get even less of a chance to succeed.

 

[wushady]

Ryder- I don't for the life of me get what people see in this guy. He's in ring work is mediocre at best. His character is just plain out lame in my opinion. His mic skills are the only descent thing he has going for him. However I don't find them to be as great as others make them out to be.

Ziggler- I think he has potential to be a great superstar. He has great in ring skills. He's mic ability needs a lot of work though. I agree that the majority of his heat comes from Vickie. However I think he could be a big star if given a descent push and maybe a new gimmick.

Rhodes and Del Rio- They both are very talented in the ring and on the mic. Del Rio more so in both areas than Rhodes. Del Rio is definitely a future World champion sooner than later. Rhodes may never be a World champion but I think he'll have a long successful career.

 

[amazing_blue]

I really like Dolph Ziggler. I've been a fan of him since day one and have always thought he had what it took to be World Champion. The only thing holding him back would be his size. It's a big mistake to have him on RAW, because on SmackDown he could automatically enter the world title scene.

I feel like I'm the only one in the IWC, but I think Del Rio sucks.

I'm pretty indifferent to both Rhodes and Ryder at the moment, but Cody certainly knows how to work a match.

 

[Young Money]

Dolph Ziggler - Good charisma, okay mic skills but poor inring skills. He is annoying on the mic, I can't stand the guy but thats the purpose of a heel character. To annoy the crowd and be hated. Most superstars couldn't care about a WWE house show, not televised.

Alberto Del Rio - He is great! He has good charisma, good on the mic and great in the ring (good moveset). Did you see his PPV matches against Edge and Christian and also when he was on Smackdown? This guy is one of WWE's top stars within coming years. Future Hall of Famer.

Zack Ryder - He is good! Look at him closely! Has a good look, suits his character very well, great mic skills, decent in ring skills (not the best). You can't judge the guy because we don't see him much because he is being jobbed on Superstars and not getting much airtime. Get him on RAW, put him in the midcard area and give him a US Title or Intercontinental Title.
Let us see him!

- WWWYKI

 

[bigtrav01]

Okay, first, if you are you gonna say Ryder is bad, say why, you just said he is terrible twice, without stating why.
Now... for question one, I like them all, Ziggler has a good look, and is fine in ring, his promo skills are okay, they are covered up by Vickie, did you forget about her whem you were complaining about his mic skills?
Del Rio is great, his character is great, he can wrestle, but I believe he has been limited by WWE, he has great mic skills, if he was to change his finisher to one that looks more painful I think it would help him a lot.
Cody Rhodes, this guys character is great, so sadistic now, you can tell when he walks to the ring how much he is into the character, and that is just walking to the ring, on the mic he adds a lot to this character, it shows just how evil he is, plus he is a great wrestler, that match with Rey at WrestleMania was great, and is only over shadowed by Taker and HHH.
Zack Ryder- I love Ryder, he is funny, I don't expect him to get that far in the company, but I think he could get over as a comedy character, he is a good wrestler and deserves better, but this seems to be the best he can get, I mean look at Santino, he isn't a bad wrestler, but he has been given a comedy gimmick and I bet with that gimmick he is more famous than he would have ever been otherwise.
Question 2. The reason Primo isn't used is because of lack of charisma, no character, and yes, he is a good wrestler, no doubt about that, but to make it in WWE you can't be bland, unless your name is Randy Orton of course. Also Masters screwed himself over a few years back with the roids, he was gonna be something big.
Question Three. The guy with the brightest future is Alberto Del Rio, this is because he was scheduled to win the World Title twice by now, but due to bad luck I guess he hasn't, WWE has changed their mind because they wanted Edge to retire champion and they wanted Christian to have a moment with Edge. He is already main eventing SummerSlam with Cena according to reports, and I guarantee that by this time next year Del Rio will have already won a World Title, WWE or World Heavyweight, because it is his destiny, but you, you already know that.

 

[Amped08]

Are you trolling? Every last one of those guys is awesome in the ring, though a few of em need to work a bit on their promos (looking at you, Ziggler). Running away and being hated on the mic are GOOD things for heels, doofus.

 

[911 JP]

Zack Ryder- Hee is a star, maybe not seen by many people yet but when he is given his chance to shine he will. In a company that revolves themselves around being entertainment, and all of their main faces being boring, stale or just plain non interesting its guys like Ryder that we want to see, he is constantly entertaining and truly is his gimmick. I would rather see Ryder on WWE TV than a person like Cena who in the PG era is pushed down our throats but is continually bland and boring. Ryder also has the look of a star and can easily carry himself in the ring, granted not the best in ring worker but he can put on an entertaining match.

Cody Rhodes- This guy has improved beyond anything anyone ever thought he would, three years ago he was teaming with Hardcore Holly and now he is one of the reasons to watch Smackdown. Everything from his gimmick, to his look, to his in ring work is great, he is truely a future World Champion.

The other 2 I dont see anything in..

 

[cm ben]

Can anyone recommend me to a WWE site that isn't full of ten year old kids that know nothing about, well.......anything?

Truth. Hard to post when you can't tell a troll from a legit eleven year-old (to be fair, I was posting on Hardy Boyz angelfire forums when I was eleven years old, too...)

Pretty much have to disagree with everything the OP said here...

Ziggler's great in the ring, and heck, DECENT on the mic... he would get better if he had more opportunity to speak, too...

Alberto del rio is passable in the ring--can definitely wrestle a great match, although some of his televised matches are a bit vanilla. The guy can really work a crowd on the mic, too...

You're right that we haven't seen Ryder on TV regularly for a while, but IMHO, it's got more to do with politics than his talent... the guy is fucking hilarious and can also wrestle a decent match. Why he isn't on TV more is reallly the mystery of the year for the IWC, it seems like. It's got nothing to do with his amount of talent, because he's practically bleeding it

Cody Rhodes? Man, if you're complaining about Cody Rhodes, I don't really know why I'm even responding to this. Works GREAT matches, and is really one of the most convincing actors on the roster right now, I think.

If these four guys ended up being the future of the WWE..? I'd be fine with that. All of them have their own strengths; all of them seem to be relatively healthy (i.e. none of them seem roided up, don't seem to hear much about any of them on the dirt sheet stuff, etc.); all of them have a ton of potential to grow both in the ring and on the mic... all in all, I can't agree with any of the complaints you have for these four rising stars.

 

[Ayatollah]

1)why do you like/dislike cody rhodes, del rio, zach ryder and dolph ziggler?
well Ziggler is good in ring and idk where you see Ziggler isn't good but he is really good and he is 1 time WHC
Cody Rhodes for me is more good than Ted Dibiase well i loved him since his Dashing Gimmick and in ring he is not bad at all
Zack Ryder : i think i like this guy since ECW was done and he really improved in his ring skills than the ECW days and his show is just Awesome
Alberto Del Rio i don't really like him i think it's tooooo soon to be in the Main-Event scene for him

ok, so if these 4 guys are good and should be used, then why arent guys like primo, or chris masters, etc used?
for me i don't like Masters or Primo well Masters was good but now he is going to still JUST in Superstars and Primo is just soo bad just look at his match with Sin Cara at RAW

of these 4 heels, why do you think they deserve to be the future of the wwe? why do they deserve to be champion over guys who are in good with the crowd, or are actually talented?

these 4 guys ARE really talented i assure you Ziggler is very good in ring Alberto we didn't seen what he got Cody is one of the future and Zack is Zack so i think they deserve to be the future of the WWE

 

[The Future Rises]

Who cares about a house show or a live event or whatever, Dolph Ziggler has put on amazing TV matches, all his PPV matches were great except for Wrestlemania but Snooki is to blame really, you must be blind if you think he can't wrestle, Rhodes and Del Rio are both good wrestlers too, so you just made a useless thread, nice going man.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

Wow.. You just dissed all 4 of them..

Dolph Ziggler - I think he has improved a lot in the ring, his feud with Edge will show you just that.. He isn't the best on the, actually he might be crap, but that's why Vickie was there and got him over as a good heel..

Cody Rhodes - I like this guy in the ring, and he is good on the mic, he manages to gain heat all by himself, what does that tell you?? The OP called him an egotistic maniac? What? Really?? Well it's his character, don't blame him! He is actually good at what he does and we haven't seen a character like him in years!

Alberto Del Rio - Can't really believe you dissed him! He ran around the ring for 1 match and you called him crap in the ring? He has great mic skills IMO, and because he can speak Spanish, he can gain extra heat because te fans don't like it when someone speaks a language other than English! He is great in the ring, mixed technician/high-flyer and for a 34 year old, he can move very well in the ring..

Zack Ryder - Now this guy, I don't know what to say, I don't think I have seen him werstle in like a year! What do people see in him? I don't know, but what some people see in him, VKM doesn't!! Which is a goood thing!

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

I realise you've already been ripped apart and fed to the wolves but it's just too much, I can't stand to see what you've written and not respond.

-dolph ziggler, good appearance, poor inring skills, annoying on the mic, and, persay tonight went to a wwe show, ziggler wouldnt wrestle primo for like the first 10 minutes just kept running out of the ring. yet they say ziggler is the future of the wwe? seriously?

What you are doing here is using kayfabe reasons for disliking somebody. Your saying Ziggler basically isn't a good wrestler because he uses classic heel tactics to get the upper hand. What the funny part is, is that it still doesn't make any sense. Just because someone chooses not to fight or when to fight does not mean they are not good at it, that's not a conclusion you can draw from someone running away. You judge him on what he does do, which is exceptional, and not on what he avoids doing. Ziggler is in fact one of the absolute best in the WWE as an in-ring talent and has constructed very good matches with Daniel Bryan, Edge and other over the last 12 months. Guys with the pure wrestling ability he has always have a future so yes he is the future of WWE coupled with his relatively young age of around 30.

-del rio, he like ziggler, (just using this as an example), he kept running around the ring, running away from rey mysterio. poor inring, so annoying on the mic (like most heels but still annoying). yet people say he is the future of the wwe? really?

I've already addressed the in-ring issue you have, which is ridiculous. "Annoying on the mic". What you fail to realise is that this is a good thing. See thing is, Del Rio is a heel. And the job of a hell is to get heat by any means necessary, even if they have to use their natural assets such as what you have branded and annoying voice, it's all used to the benefit of him. Once again Del Rio is good in the ring, he's been great since debuting, he is a part of the WWE's future.

-zach ryder, people say he is never used, say he is good? he is terrible, can you even remember the last time he was on a show (other then superstars). so many people say he is good, yet he is terrible.

You manage to trip yourself up in spectacular fashion here. You informed me that people say he is under-utilised and then ask when is the last time I saw him on a show outside of superstars. DUDE! You're giving those that follow him perfect ammo for their claims. Aside from that you don't even mention why he is bad. Poor show.

-cody rhodes, does anyone like him? egotistic maniac. yet for whatever reason some people say he is the future of the wwe. he is annoying on the ring and he isnt talented in the ring either.

This is really taking all the biscuits. Yeah that's right, I have no custard creams left now. Produced the 2/3rd best match at Wrestlemania, gets immense heat BECAUSE of his schtick as an egotistical maniac, and all this whilst being at the meagre age of 25. Once again you provide kayfabe reason's for claiming him not to be good. And above all you say he's 'annoying on the ring', which is just downright huh?

Questions:
1)why do you like/dislike cody rhodes, del rio, zach ryder and dolph ziggler?
2)ok, so if these 4 guys are good and should be used, then why arent guys like primo, or chris masters, etc used?
3)of these 4 heels, why do you think they deserve to be the future of the wwe? why do they deserve to be champion over guys who are in good with the crowd, or are actually talented?

Look I'm not going to answer these questions, they are littered with bias and suggest a genuine mental deficiency. Until you grasp how to view wrestler's at least a little more objectively, nobody is going to value a thing you say in the slightest. Just wow.

 

[WrestlingIsReal]

ziggler is very talented in the ring just not good on the mic, thats why he has vicky.
del rio is talented in the ring and on the mic.
rhodes has some in ring ability, and while i think his gimmick is somewhat stupid, he has played it well.
ryder has charisma and mic skills, just give a few matches where he doesnt job and we'll see where his inring skills are at.

 

[BritishLion]

Do you know anything about wrestling? Seriously? Dolph Ziggler is one of the best in-ring wrestlers in the WWE. He has had many great matches, for example his three match series against Daniel Bryan. Running out of the ring is called psychology. You obviously don't know what a heel is.
Alberto Del Rio is great in the ring and oozes charisma and "it". He has wrestled for years and honed his craft in Mexico. He is one of the best heels in the company.
Cody Rhodes is decent in the ring and his mic skills are good. I liked his dashing gimmick, and his current monster gimmick is very good. I loved his match against Rey Mysterio at Mania and I feel that Rhodes should win the MITB this year. And egotistic maniac? Are you like the world's biggest mark?
Zack Ryder is pretty good in the ring and plays his gimmick to perfection. He is only not on TV because WWE don't book him for some reason. His internet show is very entertaining and clever. His tag team with Curt Hawkins is underated. I do not see Ryder as a main eventer but I see him as a great mid carder.

 

[Nero89]

1)why do you like/dislike cody rhodes, del rio, zach ryder and dolph ziggler?
CODY-i honestly fell that dibiase shouldve gotten the push more than rhodes did. also i dont really like his character and fell that, as a smaller talent, that he would be better utilized by ROH or Impact.
DEL RIO-Cant stand this man. hes really not that talented in ring yet has been handed everything on a silver plate by vince. though i do give him credit for the surprise RR finish.
RHYDER-i fell that he only has the fan base that he does becuase of his webshow that so many seem to have grown attatched to. there are far better people that deserve a contract with wwe than him.
DOLPH-this is the only man on the list that i like. go watch some of his youtube matches and tell me that he doesnt have skill. he's simply misused.


2)ok, so if these 4 guys are good and should be used, then why arent guys like primo, or chris masters, etc used?
Simple...Vince has gone crazy lately and most of their talent arent being used correctly.


3)of these 4 heels, why do you think they deserve to be the future of the wwe? why do they deserve to be champion over guys who are in good with the crowd, or are actually talented?
As mentioned, i only feel dolph deserves said push. but to be honest the next ten years will be a very strange time in wwe. the "FUTURE OF WWE" seems to be such a strange thing to think about seeing as we have no earthly idea what might even be going on with wwe in the next few years.
If IMPACT and ROH start to deliver big they can seriously hurt the show. Impact already has most of the bigger names...
take a look at the two promotion's rosters. The only big name that wwe even has right now being used in-ring is Cena. granted they also have cm punk, orton, and etc but they arent sell out arena talent. rememebr when wwe had taker, hhh, austin, the rock and tons of other talent to fall back on...
now look at Impact...Hogan(love it or hate it but he brings attention to the company),RVD,angle,STING and more...

so instead of thinking about the future top talents of wwe, think about the future of wwe itself.

 

[rjoconnell]

OK, first, I just want to point out that the poster of this is probably like 8 years old..
Also, no one cares about HOUSE SHOWS. Why do people pay money to see these things? Ugh.

Ziggler - I'm indifferent on Ziggler. I feel like his in-ring skills are a lot better than the original poster is giving him credit for. I dunno, he just doesn't do it for me.

Del Rio - Again, better in-ring skills than being given credit for. I love his personal ring announcer, it's so obnoxious, gives him credibility as a heel. He's 100% a future world champion.

Zack Ryder - You don't like Zack Ryder? Are you serious, BRO?! He has more personality, more charisma, more presence than 75% of the current WWE roster. He's built a cult following just from a YOUTUBE show. People bring signs to RAW every week to support him, even though he's never on it (other than a cameo). How people don't like this guy is the real question.

Cody Rhodes - Love his new gimmick. He's great in the ring. He's a future world champion.

Is the 10 year old posting this just picking on heels or something? I don't get it.

 

[hollowpoint]

Im not gonna bash the OP by calling him an 8-10 year old or whatever, but I don't agree with most of what was said about the Superstars that were mentioned.

Dolph Ziggler - Good in ring skill, great athletism, decent charisma, below average mic skills. If he's gonna be a heel, he need to make sure to have Vicki there to talk.

Cody Rhodes - Great in ring worker, Great athletism, Great charisma, Great on the mic. This gimmick with the mask is probably the best thing that could've happened to his career because he is now being looked at as a possible main event guy. People try to compare it to Mankind back in the day, but I disagree. He went from being "disfigured" to having the fans wear paper bags and that it was everyone else that was disfigured. Brilliant. IMO he has the most upside out of the 4 mentioned.

ADR - Good in ring abiliity, Great athleticism, Great on the mic, Great charisma. The only knock I have on ADR is that he's kind of an old-school wrestler. He's good with the one on one, no gimmick match ups, but when it comes to matches like Triple Threat, Four Way, Ladder Matches, etc, he seems a little bit out of place. Make no mistake though he can go in the ring. I just wish they could have use him more as an upper mid carder than a possible main eventer.

Zack Ryder - WWWYKI..BRO! I like this guy simply because of his charisma. He doesn't seem to take himself too seriously and he is over the top entertaining. I've watched all of his episodes of Long island Iced Z! and they are $$$. That being said, he's got Great athletism, and good in ring work. He has a lot to improve on if he is to be considered one of the best, but he has a tremendous upside.

Out of the list I named, if you couldn't tell, I like Cody Rhodes and Zack Ryder the best out the 4 mentioned. Although all of them are good/great at somethings, I think these two are great.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

ok, so, heres the deal, everyone seems to like these 3 guys, say they are under utilized, or they are the future of the wwe, i say bs to that.

-dolph ziggler, good appearance, poor inring skills, annoying on the mic, and, persay tonight went to a wwe show, ziggler wouldnt wrestle primo for like the first 10 minutes just kept running out of the ring. yet they say ziggler is the future of the wwe? seriously?

Ziggler has a monster build for his size. Hes great in the ring, I don't know who you have been watching but you've missed a lot. He's had some great matches with Edge, Kofi, and several other Superstars during his time on Smackdown. He's got a great amateur wrestling background. Why should he be used of Primo and Masters, because he's good in the ring and on the mic, Zigglers a former WHC Champion. Ziggler could become a monster baby face at any time at the drop of a Vickie Guerrero.

-del rio, he like ziggler, (just using this as an example), he kept running around the ring, running away from rey mysterio. poor inring, so annoying on the mic (like most heels but still annoying). yet people say he is the future of the wwe? really?

Running from Rey Mysterio? Do you watch Smackdown? He dominated Rey, Christian, and several other superstars before being moved to Raw. He was moved to Raw because hes going to be a major player in the WWE for a long time to come. Poor in ring? Again do you watch WWE programing? He was part of the main event at WM vs Edge. Granted that match wasn't the greatest but thats due to Edge being injured. His ring announcer, his cars, the arrogance, hes cocky, hes smart, hes the Mexican JBL for 2011.

AAAaALLLLLLLBEEERRRTTTOOOOO DEEEEELLLLLLL RIIIIIIIIOOOOOO! Classic.

-zach ryder, people say he is never used, say he is good? he is terrible, can you even remember the last time he was on a show (other then superstars). so many people say he is good, yet he is terrible.

Ryder has built up a great internet following, and he has the mic skills and in ring talent to back it up. He may not be the greatest, but he's better than others that have been given pushes. IE the members of the Corre (the Wendy's girl and that guy who can cut a promo to save his life). All he needs is a chance, and a decent push and Ryder can prove that hes worth the time he's been getting.

-cody rhodes, does anyone like him? egotistic maniac. yet for whatever reason some people say he is the future of the wwe. he is annoying on the ring and he isnt talented in the ring either.[/QUOTE]

Great gimmick, great in the ring, great on the mic, great look. His feud with Rey was great and if he continues on his current course he can be a main event star in no time. Hes better than "Ted" DiBiase, Jr., Michael McGillicutty (aka Joseph Curtis "Joe" Hennig) Rhodes vs Dibiase , and Rhodes vs Orton will be future PPV matches. Rhodes vs Orton could be on the card at WM28.

Questions:
1)why do you like/dislike cody rhodes, del rio, zach ryder and dolph ziggler?
2)ok, so if these 4 guys are good and should be used, then why arent guys like primo, or chris masters, etc used?
3)of these 4 heels, why do you think they deserve to be the future of the wwe? why do they deserve to be champion over guys who are in good with the crowd, or are actually talented?

1. Del Rio, Rhodes and Ziggler will all be future main event stars, Ryder may never break out of the middle card, but at least hes entertaining.
2. These four guys are used more than Masters and Primo because they are entertaining in the ring and on the mic. They posses what it takes to be big stars in the WWE. Masters is on his 3rd chance in the WWE, and I'm surprised Primo has a job still.

3. All four of these heels you mention are clearly getting the job done when it comes to you because they have gotten under your skin and annoy you.

 

[Find'er Woo'er Ryder]

Ok. I'm going to answer you're crappy original post.

Dolph Ziggler is great in the ring. Now I don't see him as the future of the business but I see him a future star. He will be in the WWE for a while but won't get as far as he can unless he develops better mic skills.

Alberto Del Rio is one of the best in the WWE right now. How can you say he sucks? His mic skills are incredible and they can be matched by his in-ring skills. Have you seen any of his matches with Rey Mysterio? or Edge? Orton? He is definetly one of the future stars of the WWE.

Cody Rhodes gimmick is very similar to Mankinds but better. His promos are amazing and I honestly don't get where he comes up with this shit. Every promo he makes in the ring always has my full attention. His matches have gotten better since he left legacy as well. I mean, when he first came to the WWE and team with Hardcore Holly he sucked. Then got way better when he started to fued with DX during their last stint. Rhodes is the furture as well.

Zack Ryder is fucking great. Apparently you watch WWE from a Kayfabe. Ryder is four times as funny as Santino Marella. How many Zack Ryder signs do you see on Raw everyweek? Now I don't see him a WWE or World Heavyweight Champion but I do see him holding a Intercontinental or United States Championship reign or two.

Out of these four who do I like best? Probably Alberto Del Rio. His promos are fantastic and his ring skills are even better.